2000's Avengers VS Thanos | WHAT IF?
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Today we discuss the scenario where Thanos and his forces attack a universe featuring all of the pre-MCU Marvel Heroes. How will they fare against the Black Order or even the Mad Titan himself?
Avengers: Infinity War is a 2018 American superhero film based on the Marvel Comics superhero team the Avengers. Produced by Marvel Studios and distributed by Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures, it is the sequel to The Avengers (2012) and Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015), and the 19th film in the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU). Directed by Anthony and Joe Russo and written by Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely, the film features an ensemble cast including Robert Downey Jr., Chris Hemsworth, Mark Ruffalo, Chris Evans, Scarlett Johansson, Benedict Cumberbatch, Don Cheadle, Tom Holland, Chadwick Boseman, Paul Bettany, Elizabeth Olsen, Anthony Mackie, Sebastian Stan, Danai Gurira, Letitia Wright, Dave Bautista, Zoe Saldaña, Josh Brolin, and Chris Pratt. In the film, the Avengers and the Guardians of the Galaxy attempt to prevent Thanos from collecting the six all-powerful Infinity Stones as part of his quest to kill half of all life in the universe.
The film was announced in October 2014 as Avengers: Infinity War - Part 1. The Russo brothers came on board to direct in April 2015, and a month later Markus and McFeely signed on to write the script for the film, which draws inspiration from Jim Starlin's 1991 comic book The Infinity Gauntlet and Jonathan Hickman's 2013 comic book Infinity. In 2016, Marvel shortened the title to Avengers: Infinity War. Filming began in January 2017 at Pinewood Atlanta Studios in Fayette County, Georgia, with a large cast consisting mostly of actors reprising their roles from previous MCU films, including Brolin as Thanos. The production lasted until July 2017, shooting back-to-back with a direct sequel, Avengers: Endgame (2019). Additional filming took place in Scotland, the Downtown Atlanta area, and New York City. With an estimated budget of $325-400 million, the film is one of the most expensive films ever made.
Avengers: Infinity War premiered in Los Angeles on April 23, 2018, and was released in the United States on April 27, as part of Phase Three of the MCU. The film received praise for Brolin's performance, visual effects, action sequences, and emotional weight. The film was the fourth film and the first superhero film to gross over $2 billion worldwide, breaking numerous box office records, and becoming the highest-grossing film of 2018 and the fourth-highest-grossing film of all time both worldwide and in the United States and Canada. The film's visual effects were nominated at the 91st Academy Awards, 24th Critics' Choice Awards, and 72nd British Academy Film Awards. The sequel, Avengers: Endgame, was released in April 2019.
X-Men is an American superhero film series based on the Marvel Comics superhero team of the same name. 20th Century Fox obtained the film rights to the team and other related characters in 1994 for $2,600,000. After numerous drafts, Bryan Singer was hired to direct the first film, released in 2000, and its sequel, X2 (2003), while the third installment of the original trilogy, X-Men: The Last Stand (2006), was directed by Brett Ratner.
After each film outgrossed its predecessor, several spin-off films were released, including three Wolverine films (2009-2017), four X-Men prequel films (2011-2019), two Deadpool films (2016-2018), and two television series - Legion and The Gifted (2017-2019) - with the stand-alone The New Mutants concluding the series in 2020 after a 20-year-long run.
With thirteen films released, the X-Men film series is the ninth-highest-grossing film series, having grossed over $6 billion worldwide.
In March 2019, Marvel Studios regained the film rights to the X-Men, along with the Fantastic Four and Deadpool, after Disney acquired Fox for $71.3 billion. In October 2020, the films in the X-Men series, along with the Fantastic Four films, were rebranded as Marvel Legacy films on Disney+.
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00:00 Intro
01:50 The Story
04:44 Squarespace
05:31 VS Outriders
07:58 VS The Black Order
11:58 VS Thanos - Zábava
Do you think they could beat Loki or Ultron?
Loki possibly , but Ultron especially what if Ultron idk
Great video, lotta fun reminiscing on the old marvel movies before The MCU, also didn’t know some of these characters were this strong.
Yes
You could build a fan-universe of of these, and even introduce more characters like Antman, so he can make Ultron.
Maybe
I think a fight of Wolverine and Daredevil vs Corvus would be very likely to happen, as Corvus would likely try to sneak around and flank the team, and Wolverine and Daredevil would be the two most likely to sense him coming.
I also think it would make more sense for Blade and Electra to fight Proxima Midnight
I think you needed to include Magneto as well, Thanos attacking affects him so he would definitely team up with the Avengers.
This is actually an incredibly interesting idea and this video did a really good job creating a believable and interesting story based on this hypothetical.
THANK YOU!
@@CRISIS_COMICSJust the truth but you're welcome
@@CRISIS_COMICS where do you scale fox wolverines ap ?
When Tobey beats the whole black order alone.
What do you expect he still has the moves!
He’s gonna out some Dirt in their Eye
Black Order: No, no that's not fair...
Peter Parker: Gonna Cry.
No he doesn’t 💀
Tobey beating tom straight up then imagine if tobey got a suit from Reed god like
Thanos is fucked. Jean by herself would tear him apart... Bana hulk , F4 family , ghost rider, rest of X-Men, Tobey Spidey ect.
Bruh lol
Where do you mcu Thanos
They even took it easy on Thanos in the matchup by not including Silver Surfer who'd just be like bippity boppity your molecules are my property
@@ghartman56hell yeah lol man it would be like that scene in logan where the kids combined their powers to kill that robo hand guy!! Forgot his name
@@bobbywilliams4438 Oh yeah pierce haha man got rocked
Quicksilver solos
2000s avengers vs Thanos? Damn I thought this was a Missed the Part video!
Hope you appreciate the more power scaling focused approach!
@@CRISIS_COMICS I did. And while I have your attention, I have two rather unique power scaling ideas that may interest you
Senator Armstrong vs King Bradley (full metal alchemist brotherhood). Both are leaders who embrace the others philosophies and while you did a video on Raidens powerscaling (and Sam?) you never did one for Armstrong
Frank Horrigan (fallout 2) vs Fulgore (2014s killer instinct/new lore)
I mostly want the second idea as tbh, ive never seen anyone try to powerscale the fallout universe, theres no continental characters or anything but theres definitely beyond human characters like the aforementioned Frank who can tank lasers/plasma hot enough to instantly evaporate a normal human and just laugh, one shot deathclaws with his bare hands, etc
So did I. I was taken by surprise when I heard Crisis's voice lol
"I missed the part where that's my problem." -Bully Maguire
I’d totally watch a movie with this plot. Good work!
Can't wait to see the 2000s Avengers in Secret Wars, if it's possible.
I LOVE PRE MCU SCALING
Great job on scaling the Early 2000s Avengers, they are underated in power.
Idea: The Alternate 2010s Avengers vs MCU Thanos. The Alternate 2010s Avengers are basically 2010s Marvel heroes who weren't apart of the MCU. Heroes like the Netflix Defenders, Netflix Punisher, Netflix Ghost Rider, Andrew Garfield's Spidey, the 2015 Fantastic Four, the Inhumans from the Inhumans show, the X-Men (from First Class - Dark Phoenix), Ryan Reynolds' Deadpool, etc.
Most of those are in the main MCU tho...I argue that the Netflix, Hulu, etc shows are Sacred Timeline.
@@CRISIS_COMICS Good point 👍. Although back then, I used to think (much like how I believed the Early 2000s Marvel heroes were in the same universe) were in the same universe due to how they felt so disconnected from the MCU. I thought that when Jessica Jones was about to finish her "great power" sentence, that she was talking about Andrew Garfield's Spidey. It still would be cool if those heroes fought Thanos to see how they'd do against him like the Early 2000s Marvel heroes.
@@epiccraftmine4976 I think new Jean Grey is their best chance,
@@CRISIS_COMICS Yeah since she's technically the same Jean Grey we see in the Early 2000s X-Men films. I think the Alternate 2010s Avengers vs MCU Thanos would be a cool idea like the Early 2000s Marvel heroes vs MCU Thanos.
@@CRISIS_COMICS Or the Alternative 2010s Avengers could be the *Ultimate Avengers*
Wait so Hulk(2003) (Ang Lee) would be around multi continental? I didn't make out what he said in the video. If so than hes basically stronger than what people make him out to be.
Using statements from his movie and applying them to the shared universe
@@CRISIS_COMICS ah ok thank you
@@CRISIS_COMICSwhat statements were those?
I think Charles Xavier is more powerful than you give credit. Mantis was basically able to hold Thanos still until his concentration broke. I believe Charles should be stronger(especially with Cerebro). Even if he did the same thing I don’t think he needs physical contact to enter someone’s mind so he could just stay in the background hold Thanos still.
Please include Thomas Jane Punisher. I know he wont do anything besides maybe some battle strategy but itd be cool just to have him.
All of your videos are 🔥🔥 glad I came across your channel
I think they could beat him
10:54 Or, as he’s correctly named in What If Episode 2’s subtitles, Black Dwarf
Edit: I’d suggest an alternate version where Thanos has to take the Infinity Gems from various heroes, and we replace Tobey with Andrew because the latter has an actual Peter Parker power set instead of making me question whether he’s secretly Miguel O’hara.
Space-Fantastic Four, because they’re the most likely to get their hands on a Cosmic Cube
Soul-Ghost Rider
Mind-X-Men, because they also temporarily had it in the comics
Power-Bruce Banner (who had the smarts to hide it from the Hulk)
Reality-Daredevil (he probably doesn’t know what is until he hears from the others, but someone has to have it)
And we pick up with Thanos having trashed what remains of The Hand to get the Time Gem.
I never got why they changed his name...
@@CRISIS_COMICS I assume because it sounds kinda like a slur
Kinda like how they don’t use Man-Ape for M’Baku
@@ItsButterBean1020 In Man-Ape’s case it would help if they included his classic backstory.
Great video as usual
NGL the Fox X-Men are underrated as hell. Especially Logan who has some pretty easy Small Building - Building level feats under his belt putting him right up there with Cap
To say nothing of how strong Colossus and Juggernaut are just from their objective feats (which iirc puts them in the Multi-City Block range thanks to Deadpool 1)
What are these feats you're referring to?
Those versions of Colossus and Juggernaut don't count, it would be the smaller Colossus and rubber muscle suited Vinnie Jones Juggernaut.
@@marcespinoza6068 I agree; I more used them as an example of the Fox films being slept on
@@celestialsoldier622 late reply; do you mean the Logan feats or the stuff for Juggernaut and Colossus
@@celestialsoldier622 late reply; do you mean the Logan feats or the stuff for Juggernaut and Colossus
Chad I can't begin to explain how soothing ur voice is
Lmaooo thanks dude
I’m pretty late to this video, but I really like this video concept, not only powerscaling but also a what if scenario. Not something you see often with either powerscaling or what if scenarios!
You forgot that The Punisher is released in 2004. So, he is included in the Avengers 2000 vs Thanos movie.
Loki would get beaten easily and Ultron is tricky considering he is an ai
I love this would love to see Sony/ fox come together for a version of this but properly using apocalypse such waste of big bad
Apocalypse uses his four horseman and idk let’s give him a real doctor doom and his countries army vs fantastic four x men Spider-Man and venom
Fire idea
really good job job here
Can we get a power level tier list for this Pre MCU Avengers
How this video don't have a million views already is a crime.
Everyone in the avengers 2000 lineup
Blade
Nick fury(he brings the team together)
X-Men
Tobey Maguire Spider-Man
Daredevil
Hulk
The Punsiher
Elektra
the Fantastic Four
Man thing
Ghost rider
Nick fury will still be white in that universe just like in the classic comic who was white. before black nick fury was introduce ultimate comics
@@ninjasolarteam well yea,but the nick fury I’m talking about is the hoff version and that movie came out after blade 1 so he should be in it
@@SilentSkipper. fair enough. but i do like the idea of bruce campbell to be this version of the pre-mcu fury. i do respect that you like Hasselhoff as the original fury from the 90s era and the leader of the avengers for tobey, wesley, ben, nicholas, jennifer, hugh, F4 and thomas' leader. i would like the new actor to play fury in the 2000s to 2010-ish
@@SilentSkipper. oh and did you remember that sam raimi was referencing dr strange and then an iron man cameo in spiderman 2
there was a concept art of iron man and he is going to have a cameo in SM2 but it was dropped. dr. strange was brought up where Hoffman(ted raimi) told JJJ(JK Simmons) about who they like to call Dr Octavius code name and then hoffman says Dr Octopus but then he says "Dr. Strange" but JJJ likes it but it was taken. dr strange probably did exist in the raimiverse.
@@ninjasolarteam also why is man thing never included in stuff,elektra sucked ass just exactly like man thing,unless there is no reason for him to be in an avengers fan fiction because he’s in the swamp and nick fury won’t go to the forest swamp to recruit a swamp monster
ghost rider:....I'm gonna have to clutch
spider-man: don't worry you have us
ghost rider: yep definitely going to have to clutch
Can you please do more of the what ifs.
Jean Grey with the Phoenix Force demolishes all of them hands down!
Blade would have been awesome in the 2000's Avengers team!😁
No mention of "The Punisher" Frank Castle. 😁😁😩😩 The 2000's was closer to the Comics than the MCU Powerwise I see.
When is what if dc and mcu crossover part 8?
8:51 Baraka pool
Can you do a ranking video of whos the strongest animated spider man.
You should do full five part video on this like marvel dc cross over
since your dceu/mcu what if is you now going through some retcons a lot heres some i made
1. eternals help stop darkseids first invasion of earth
2. red skull avatar of ares(like in moon knight)
3. dceu greek gods=greek gods and mcu greek gods=roman gods
4. i just want odin and hela trying to invade earth than zeus and the old gods stop it so when odin and hela invade earth again after the old gods are dead
5. if were goning with tv cannon most of the unexplained superhuman in the deceu are inhumans or mutants(ms.marvel)
6. agomotto the first sorceror supreme weilded dr.fates helmet
5. namor coming up soon so he is the leader of one of the seven kingdoms of atlantis
6. mcu thunderbolts and suicide squad are the same team
7.you do a mcu/dceu/star wars what if i ust wanna see it okey
even tho palpatine is star level and celestials are star level heh.....
What about Thomas Jane's The punisher?
Cool, but you forgot to add the punisher.
You should colab with Blazing Void as I think he has the best MCU power scaling
I've collab'd with KeyIssues already
@@CRISIS_COMICS honestly tho. I think Blazing Void might be a better MCU powerscaler tho 🙈
@@DT25659 Honestly not 🤭
Wolverine, hulk , jean grey gone be the last 3 standing!
What If Thanos is immune to the Penance Stare? I mean, maybe he's not at all guilty for wiping out half the universe (even before using the Infinity Gauntlet), because he really believed in his mission to "save" it.
Hey Crisis, what about Thomas Jane's Punisher?, and Doctor Strange is in the Raimiverse.
He might take out a few Outriders MAYBE. And yeah we know nothing about what that Strange can do or if he’s even a super hero.
@@CRISIS_COMICS True, also huge fan of your content and keep up the amazing work. I believe that Raimi Strange would be comparable to MCU Strange, but that's my take on it.
"LOOK INTO MY EYES AND FEEL THE PAIN"
Before I watch this full video my idea is hulk, Spiderman and so many x-men would wash. I’m assuming they have storm, Jean grey and cyclops are here. They’re power houses
0:30 What is this poster from?
man thing: hey..you forgot me..
🔥
Okay I think the mcu avengers is a little stronger than you gave them credit for. Especially since they were up against Thanos WITH infinity stone's and not just Thanos on his own
Stone Thanos was holding back pm the entire time based on director statements, we also see base Thanos trashing peak Iron Man, Thor, and amped Cap even compared to him holding back with the stones
To CRISIS_COMICS
I feel like you and TheChadChamp and those that are part of the cult following group like Jade Imingan, Alex Good, VOLD GAMER, Gage Taylor, Andre Strozier and others that have respect and appreciation and admiration for their info and are the only guys to provide more information on The Hulk (2003) by using statements, context, feats, tie-in comics, video games, bonus features, behind the scenes, interviews, directors commentary and others instead of using the basic details like how many people are doing because I notice that people make insults. I've already commented on your video about which Spider-Men is the strongest about 2003 Hulk but I'm concern about how everyone's gonna react to your video on how powerful is The Hulk (2003). I just hope that it doesn't get a lot of criticisms.
Have a nice day to you and TheChadChamp?!
Plz do flash’s true power
Oh can we get 200s Marvel Heroes vs MCU Heroes
That would be awesome hope he sees this comment!
can u do arrowverse heroes vs thanos video
Using AI voices to create this scenario would be another level of
They would all get plot armor
So like in every FOX X-Men movie, Professor X immediately gets Professor X'ed because he'd just solve the situation in a matter of minutes. That's hilarious!
What about the punisher
people like rouge, iceman (bobby drake), the silver surfer, magneto, and some other heavy hitters were ignored 💀
Don’t forget about Mystique who has the same ability as Loki with disguises and she’s a really good fighter. Also night crawler. I think and argument can be made that if you matched up the the 2000s MCU Vs 2010 MCU anything could happen.
Ice man in those xmen films wasn't to impressive
You forgot punisher he could help out blade and daredevil and sue storm could help out Electra and rogue
Ghost rider Carrie’s 😊
For the 2000’s marvel universe I would count iron man 1 and 2 but mostly 1 just replace hulk 2008 with 2003 but iron man 2 ends with thors hammer so could you count Thor probably not.
They could probably win but I could easily imagine thanos taking the W as well
MCU Avengers: Man that thanos guy was tough
2000’s Avengers: …Say Sike right now
Yall forgot silver surfer
Personally, I throw the 90s Captain America movie, the Man-Thing movie, and at least one of the two Punisher movies from the 2000s into the “2000s MCU”.
I include the 90s Cap movie in with them because I like to throw the 70s Cap TV movies in with what I call the “pre-2000s MCU”, which also has the Lou Ferrigno Hulk movies and show, the Nicholas Hammond Spider-Man show, Nick Fury: Agent of SHIELD, Howard The Duck, Generation X, the cancelled 90s Fantastic Four movie, and the 89 Punisher movie.
The way the penance stare works, it applies IF said victim has done evil, but only WORKS if said person has remorse for their actions. Ghost Rider tried this on Deadpool in the comics and it didn't work because Deadpool doesn't feel bad for the people he killed. And we see Thanos has some weird self-justification for his actions. So there's no telling if he'd fall victim to the Penance State or not.
I think you should have added Dr. Strange to the team since he was mentioned in the Raimi universe.
Joaquin phoenix dr. strange
and then cruise as iron man. there was a concept art of iron man cameo in spiderman 2 but it was dropped
I can't remember. Was silver surfer added to the mix?
Wolverine's metal is science-based not only science-based alien base 2 cuz it came from outer space 🚀🌌 the metal so if it's out of space metal can Thanos snap his finger and don't exist made all the metal in the future don't exist anymore made it extinct metal
Thanos should already have all the stones except the time stone
At times I couldn’t understand the other guy
He's just British
Here are the members of the Avengers 2000:
1. Hulk
2. Spiderman
3. Daredevil
4. Ghost Rider
5. Blade
6. Punisher
7. Wolverine
Evedy maul would fight the fantastic 4 and ironman
los x men de los 2000 son del ucm
Human torch solos
Bruh where MARVEL MCU and DCEU crossover video
ghost rider carries
Tobey is supiorior to Tom holland
Bully Maguire could have easily solo Thanos, but he missed the part where that's his problem.
czcams.com/video/M9u8BAQAHLE/video.htmlsi=pSmY1U_fSUOfxToB
Before I continue this vid, how does Thanos have mental resistance and nullifies Professor X's telepathy when Mantis was able to put him under for a short time just by touching him? Thanos is clearly weak to mental attacks.
Hmm, 7 months and still no answer.
I would much rather have a movie like this instead of what we got!
Thanos wouldnt come to Earth just to kill people, he was always searching for the infinity stones
The Phoenix in the original FOX X-Men was just part of Jean Grey's broken mind, not a cosmic being
This story doesnt hold water, sorry
It’s a fun what if scenario lmao.
Anyway you’re wrong about the thanos stuff considering there have been multiple instances where he’s come to earth looking for other cosmic powers or just other things in general.
Infinity - Came looking for Thane, his inhuman son.
X-Man Annual - Projected himself to Hulk as an attempt to get him to team up with him.
Eternals 2021 - Stayed on Earth to usurp Zuras as the prime Eternal.
A very obvious comp of live action movie Jean was used here to make the story work better.
Revised timeline Jean is both anyway so who cares lmao.
Well shit
but could they beat goku though ?
🤦♂
LMAO
Stop
Even if you want to lie to yourself and say Jean is Universal+ Goku would still beat her XD
The thing about the penance stare is that it fundamentally works through ones own remorse not the parameters ghost rider has set so if thanos has no remorse for his actions which he doesnt the stare just wouldnt work
That's not how it works in the movies. It works on everyone regardless of remorse. And we haven't seen anything that contradicts that, soooo your comment doesn't work
Mcu is stronger than the pre mcu
Some are, some are not
Eric Bana Hulk will not be tossed around and bodyslammed by thanos. He will be the one bodyslamming thanks.
Wait I just realized,where the fuck is nick fury,and man thing,thankfully you included elektra because when people do photos or edits,they leave out elektra,but where’s man thing,his movie sucked ass just like elektra yet she’s gets included,and nick fury with Hoff came out in 1998 after blade 1 so why you forget him too
Bruh country level Thanos Is a joke Thor who can tank "full force of a star" was easily damaged and bleed from a few of Thanos punches.
Also power stone easily can destroy planets and jumpstart stars and and Thanos is Abel to damage iron man suit which was Abel to tank the power stone
Debunk right here: czcams.com/video/pqFvKE9pEX0/video.html
Adding to this;
Power Stone is planetary but it only reaches that power against targets of celestial or greater sizes, it’s nowhere near that when targeting a character the size of a Normal human
@@CRISIS_COMICS that video is garbage they downplayd the fuck out of Thor
@@ItsButterBean1020 I'm pretty sure Thor is not the size of a planet
Also the infinity gauntlet let's Thanos the control the stones and downs was trying to kill Iron Man so there's no reason the friend to hold back
@@CRISIS_COMICS czcams.com/video/I6lG2fLbimE/video.html
Debunk right here
If I recall in the comics a Penance stare doesn't work on Thanos and even in MCU Thanos is convinced he's the good guy
cast for the real avengers
Iron Man=Tom Cruise
Captain America=Matt Damon
Thor=Christian Bale
Loki=Robert Pattinson
Black Widow=Angelina Jolie
Hawkeye=Joseph Gordon Levitt
Nick Fury=Bruce Campbell
Man I hated the 2000's marvel era so much. Turned me off from the genre for years.
Man thing!! Don’t forget him