Another Look at the Neo Geo X - Hybrid Gaming before the Switch | MVG
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- The Neo Geo X (NGX) is a hybrid video game console manufactured by Tommo, licensed by SNK Playmore. It released in 2012 and discontinued in 2013. The Neo Geo X features games that were on the popular original Neo Geo (the MVS/AES) hardware, and comes built-in with 20 original Neo Geo games. Additional titles were available on game cards. In this episode we take a look at the Neo Geo X console, what made it unique and why it ultimately was a disappointment.
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Fun fact - I created the promo video for Tommo that you can see parts of in the intro here. I had filmed devotional videos for the Neo Geo, Atari Nuon and TurboGrafx-16 back in the day and they wanted me to film one for the X so I did 👍
dude thats sick
Amazing!
What on earth does "devotional" mean
@@kernow5000 Like tribute videos - celebrating/remembering the console and games that were released for it.
@@AaronNanto celebrating the nuon? Ok
I believe that even before the NGX, the PSP Go offered hybrid docked gaming, no hdmi out, but composite and component were available
and you can even use a dualshock 3 controller when docked
Yeah, i came down here to comment that about the PSP-2000 having a video out feature.
Came to post this.
Clickbait title.
PSP 2000 with a component cable and yes the Go with a Sixaxis/Dualshock 3 yes expands on it. That or Pocket PCs (Ultra Mobile PCs) before the Steam Deck. The Joycon separation and splitscreen are unique for a handheld or in general (controller separation is completely but splitscreen yes isn't new for PC or console just handhelds).
I count the Gamecom, Ngage, Zodiac and Gizmondo but more in a phone/PDA on the go way then to the TV.
Someone forgot about the Turbo Express that came out 5 years before the Nomad 😉
Such a beautiful setup - modeling the dock on a full size AES replica was a real master stroke. If only Nintendo made a dock based on the NES! 😁
Yes its beautiful, but I see a wasted potential. If the handheld was designed like a cartridge, one could display the current game‘s label.
Oof! No thanks! None of the NES variants were exactly stunning pieces of industrial design. They appeal more to nostalgia. The SNES (the Japanese/European variant), OTOH, still looks good to this day.
@@talideon lol! I agree! But even the nes variants look better than the US SNES by a country mile! The lines on that console make for one ugly b*tch! 😂🤮
@@talideon Luckily that's just your opinion. The old grey NES is more industrial compared to these consoles to begin with. Including stuff from Sega.
@@Xfade81 luckily opinion can correspond with fact.
I remember being hyped for the Neo-Geo X because it was around the time I got into retro game collecting. I was so disappointed by the results that not only did I not buy one, I forgot it even existed up until right now
If the Nomad counts as a hybrid than surely the PSP counts as well with its AV output? The big pain with both is having to keep a charger plugged in for long sessions. And it's pretty awkward to have both the AV and power cablea hanging off it.
As cool as it was, because of the meh upscaling I rarely used the PSP av out for gaming
the psp go had a dock and you can use a ps3 controller
PSP2000 & 3000's video out was extremely limited.
You had to quit the game, go to settings and switch to video out for it to work. The Go might have been different but as far as the 2000 & 3000 were concerned? Yeah, no it was really irritating.
Nomad you just plugged in and it worked.
I know this because I was super hyped for the cable and then it was like oooohhh- this is kinda baaaad.
Not to mention on my TV at the timeit wouldn't get anywhere near fullscreen.
@@Snotnarok you can just hold the screen button til it switches output
the nomad had controller ports... the PSP didnt... so yes, the Nomad counts as a hybrid
I got the Gold Limited Edition with the extra controller when it came out and the first thing I did was hack it, lol. Luckly mine was one with the first batches with the internal micro SD card holder/slot for the internal memory (comes with a 2GB micro SD) which was later replaced by a nand chip in newer revision(s). Ended up adding all the NeoGeo games with icons and swapped out the regular NeoGeo bios to the Unibios one. Yes, its emulation could have been better, but it's not bad for what it is, I'm glad to have this console in my collection.
Thanks for bringing up the Nomad! I still have mine, and even at the time it didn't feel like a system that got much publicity. I was so excited to purchase mine used off of ebay, along with a whole box of genesis games to go along with it. I was even able to connect it to my TV via RCA ports and attach another controller for 2-player support on the TV. It was absolutely terrible on batteries, and you basically also needed to have the wall outlet connection if you didn't want to go broke and change batteries every couple hours. But I loved it!
I have this thing! Bought it when it released and mostly played it in handheld.
For some reason, I'm a sucker for all NEO GEO remake boxes; I have the mini arcade (the international version) and the Arcade stick that has a bunch of games built-in.
I am aware of the issues this device faces, but one thing you didn't touch on is how it looks MUCH better on a standard def TV. If you use the composite breakout cable included in the box, it looks far better.
Yeah, it isn't perfect, but the modding scene is great and that hardware is a really cool thing to have on your shelf. People are always blown away when they shriek that I have a NEO GEO, and I slide the lock to make it pop open :)
I discovered this morning that if I output to my CRT using the HDMI into a cheap Aliexpress HDMI to composite converter instead of the included composite cord, you get a way better picture. It looks sharper than the HD out on an HDTV. The colors are far more accurate, less saturated, and the screen isn't so cut off on the edges. It won't do anything about the screen tearing, but it is a night and day improvement.
6:46 And the PSP has TV output better explored in the 2000 and 3000 models which is crazy for the time it was released combined with its power. Allegedly the DS Lite could have something like that if Nintendo wanted.
I knew there was tv out mods for the Lite but wasn't there a 3rd party tv accessory too?
Yeah DS Lite supports a composite output. Nothing fancier though.
Yes but it was mainly made for multimedia content. It can't upscale games so it force you to play on a small bordered window...
Too bad Nintendo is bummy hardware and zero innovation.
@@youtubeaccount7544 in hardware maybe. But Nintendo was the most innovative entertainment software company for decades.
I was around 10 years old when the Neo Geo came out and was blown away by the graphics when I first saw it (Fatal Fury was the first game I saw) but then I realised just how expensive it was and clearly my dad said no to buying one. As years went by my love for the brand grew and when I noticed the NGX my expectations were sky high...but alas it was far from the product the brand deserved. However, I'm still hoping a proper mini console release that will be respectful and faithful to its legacy. Thank you MVG for the great video; truly appreciate the quality and consistency of your content.
At least there's no shortage of options for playing Neo-Geo games, and the "Arcade Archives: Neo-Geo" re-releases on Switch have all been excellent (at least from the handful I own).
Nintendo seldom did a thing first, but rather did a thing when it made the most economical sense and happened to be what everyone was wanting.
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@@adrianjohnson1 lol u stole my comment. Agreed
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a start coined by Gunpei Yoko, father of gameboy and you see why its helped Nintendo
Nintendo didn't make motion controls first either. Mandala for AMIGA were the first. First VR for home were on PC.
First Analogue existed before NES existed. First CD for home were on Commodore 64. First ever LaserDisc games were on Arcade. Dragon's Lair etc.
The PSP Go was also a hybrid console of sorts--it even packed a Switch-like dock long before the Switch did.
I read a lot about the neo geo x back when it was being produced. Sounds like Tommo should have targeted a slightly higher price point, bumped the specs up and definitely shouldn't have just stolen the emulator. With a few small tweaks it could have been a wild success.
Now almost every good Neo Geo game can just be played on Switch
It’s strange how the Neo Geo Mini had a lot of the same emulation issues. Those wouldn’t be corrected until the Neo Geo arcade stick was released.
the stick is a great value imo
stock buttons are serviceable
i didnt replace them until this week & i preordered the device lol
full retail library + cps1(2) support via hylo? 10/10
@@jonniefast The stick is great even if you don't use the included ROMs.
@@KingSigy def. i mostly use mine on mister or pc
i will say the white sanwa buttons and white balltop make it look like a homerun 😇
PSP Go was the first hybrid console. you can doc it to your tv and connect a Dualshock 3 controller. and THIS handhald had realy high quality and tons of emulation and Games working perfectly
It was also the first all digital console.
No UMDs, no game carts only digital downloads from PSN like modern PCs.
I feel like I was the only one who knew that this thing existed, that is until Sakurai showed in in Terry's reveal
You forgot to mention that the PSP had a video out option too. I used to play a ton of PSP games connected to TV back in the days.
Yeah, I still find the PSP Go hooked up to our 720p 32 inch TV looks great. Sync up a DualShock 3 and you're good to go!
It's a shame you need a ps3 to do the syncing... I've actually done it with a pc a few times but it's a mayor hassle.
@@danieljimenez1989 It was definitely a clunky execution, though once the controller was paired and when used in conjunction with the dock and AV cables, it was effectively the closest "Nintendo Switch" experience you could have before the Switch. And the PSP Go pre-dated the Neo Geo X by several years.
I was super bummed when Sony did not carry that functionality over to the Vita, but I could at least understand not wanting to potentially cannibalize their very profitable home console business.
Yes, but only for certain models. And it requires a component cable instead of HDMI.
@@danieljimenez1989 oh yeah, forgot about that.
Not to be "that guy who shows up in the comments of every video like this", but a couple years ago I set the PSP back up, forgetting that MOST of the functionally has been shut down AND you have to deal with the weird security backdoor since the PSP doesn't support 2FA.
At that point, I was basically like "well, if they don't want me to buy stuff through the store, guess it's time to mod the PSP."
... Hence my comment being 'that guy' lol
Great video! Was expecting you to mention the Neo-Geo Arcade Stick Pro!
This is awesome Please do a video on all the cool stuff you can install on it
We need MORE SNK NEO GEO COMPLAMATIONS COLLECTIONS these days seriously. 🎮 🎮 🕹
I was one of the original buyers of the Neo Geo X. I even got the extra mega pack of games. All of it is sitting in my closet right now and it’s original boxes. Great video!
Likewise, I bought mine with the extra game packs on launch. Just a word of caution however and you might want to check that the battery hasn't decided to leak all it's goodness onto the mainboard. After several years of being stored in it's box I decided to use mine mid last year. To my horror the battery had expanded, pushing the back out on the unit and leaking onto the board inside. The back cover was ruined (I ordered a replacement) and I removed the battery (wires connecting it are soldered on). I've yet to source another battery of the same or similar dimensions but I'll get around to that at some point. Anyway, it's worth making sure yours isn't also starting to leak.
Same. Still have mine as well. Even hooked it up recently again and was reminded of why I stashed it away in my closet...
@@DariusPowers thanks! I actually checked it out last year. The only issue it had was the rubber material on the back had gotten sticky. Nothing a little isopropyl alcohol didn’t fix.
@@METR0lD I believe the jailbreak firmware fixed the issues with the emulation, or at least it felt like it did at the time. It also meant you could use it to emulate other consoles and arcades. CPS2 games seemed to run quite nicely on it. Just unfortunate that games like Street Fighter needed the extra buttons. At the time it was worth doing as there wasn’t much like it that could also output to a tv. Things like that are a dime a dozen now but it was a cool hack to do at the time.
I too still have a neogeo x from launch. I still enjoy the system, however using the dock on a crt screen gives a decent output. The arcade sticks are decent.
Actually the PSP Go done the docking first around 2009, you forgot to mention this device in your video, but this one was the first one with the docking concept
I remember the Neo Geo X during the failed handheld gaming and microconsole era with the Ouya and those infamous Atgames handhelds that used the Coleco brand! That was before they did the scam Coleco Chameleon!
The Neo Geo X being the first true hybrid system is not a fine statement, because, while the Neo Geo X was release in 2012, in 2009, Sony released the PSPgo, who have a dock as an accessory sold separadly, and can be paired with a DualShock 3.
We can argue the PSPgo is a updated version of an already released system who was originally not designed to be hybrid, or the dock is sold apart of the system, while the Neo Geo X was build as a hybrid system in mind, and came with the dock in the bundle, but it's a fact the PSPgo works and looks closer to what a Switch is than the Neo Geo X, and it came 2 years before...
Anyway, the video is really informative. Thank you for the nice material...
I've always felt Nintendo's own Gameboy Players for SNES and GameCube are also interesting antecedents for the Switch. It's separate hardware, but with battery or password saves you could effectively play GB games seamlessly between a home console experience or on the go.
Same. Sure different controllers and an adaptor for the Gameboy with Super Gameboy, but I think they still count enough but GBA/GameCube I guess even though I see it as a succession of Dreamcast and VMU or the Wii U (dual screens then projection of 1 screen (just like projecting your smartphone wirelessly to a TV or a Tablet/Laptop with a Mini HDMI or full HDMI cable or with whatever with a projector to a wall I guess) like the Wii U and others do just on a less DS/3DS level as their wireless of cables to the TV the GBA/Dreamcast VMU and Wii U than the whole handheld like the DS/3DS which dual screen smartphones are closer to as a continuation of I think) and more the Nomad, PSP 2000 with a cable/PSP Go, or Pocket PCs for cables/docks before the Steam Deck (UMPCs) besides of course never hearing about the Neo Geo X so it counts too.
Your VoiceOver has become practicaly Professionel. Good pacing and sound !!!
The PSP Go had a Dock Accessory where you could Dock the thing and output the video to your TV, and when docked you were able to sync a PlayStation 3's DualShock 3 controller to it so you could play your PSP on the TV while on the couch. The PSP Go and that Dock released 3 years before the Neo Geo X, so while you Could say the Neo Geo X was the first Hybrid, it's not actually true, it was just the first to bundle the dock with the device.
Great part of gaming history and videos as per usual. Keep up the great work friend
always glad to see you upload a new video.
That's a really nice setup, you gotta admit. If that thing had power, I'd use it as a dedicated emulation rig.
I bet if you cracked it and built more modern emulators to it, it would run it better
A third contender in this category of “hybrid before Switch” exists - the PSP Go. Yes, it has a dock!
When we speak about hybrid gaming as "connect a handheld to a TV to play the same games on it", it is not fair to leave out PSP 2000, PSP 3000 and PSP Go. Go even had a dock available and allowed connecting Dual Shock 3 via Bluetooth.
For a while, it was the best option to play PSP games on large screen and allowed for playing almost all the same PS1 titles as real hardware, with great accuracy - of course, you needed to mod it, because not all were available on PS Store. It would remain the best option still, but nowadays PS TV with sharpscale plugin, crisp HDMI output and Dual Shock 4 (even Dual Sense if you install homebrew plugins) support takes the cake - but it is no longer a handheld device. But yeah, PSP Go is mostly a forgotten relic of era when people were going "ewww" when thinking about digital-only console without physical media. It was also released late into PSP lifecycle.
Neo Geo X and even Nomad were interesting devices, but they weren't mainstream either. Only two handhelds were: PSP 2000 and 3000 - they sold at significant number, had great library of titles and TV output, which was really easy to set up - cable was all you needed, console itself acted as a controller.
In reality, PSP is the only console which done similar thing to Switch and met moderate success.
About 6 or so years ago if I got the math right, I walked into a Walmart and there was a brand new Sega Nomad behind the glass. $600. The box was kind of beat up. I was so confused. I'm guessing either a manager had one and used Walmart to sell it, or a manager found one stacked away in the back and since it was legit theirs, they tried to sell it......for 600 friggin bucks. Wonder what happened to it.......
I bought the Neo Geo X Gold and really liked it. I never noticed any issues with it, though mainly played it with the handheld. The only issue I had was I didn't use it for a while and came back and it wouldn't charge. The battery needed replacing, but since then its been perfect.
Exactly the same here! From what I understand, is that a ps3 controller battery fits in there, but I never tried it.
I had considered purchase of the Neo Geo X, but it didn't become very apparent that there was a modding community for it at the beginning of its life or even at the 6 mo mark, and I objectively looked at the titles and 'everything' I would have expected to be able play just wasn't available and didn't seem like it would be coming out. I had dug out my original PSP and made it my compact on-the-go Neo Geo emulator. I too always wanted a Neo Geo system, but the $650 price with $250 games was just a non starter.
Fast forward to today and Neo Geo on the Switch seems to be one of the best, and most authentic experiences for those games...once you get over the weird start-up lag.
I remembered seeing this console at one point for $99 on sell , too bad I passed on it . Great video btw
Had a Nomad as a kid and loved that thing!! Wish I had never gotten rid of it.
nice video dude, i did a repair on 1 of these not too long ago but it was so fiddly.
PSP Go had a TV out, official TV dock and was compatible with DualShock 3 controllers so you could play on your couch just like the Switch.
By this definition PSP was also a hybrid console :P Although it didn't have a dock, it did have a cable that would hook up to a TV :D
You reminded me I have one of these with a bad sd card slot. I put a Raspberry PI 3 in the dock so it looks like a AES. I guess I should get around to fixing the handheld 😂
I like how Sakurai featured this in his Terry episode. :p
wow big NeoGeo fan & this completely flew under the radar! black exterior of handheld kinda reminds me of an iPhone 4 which came out a year or two prior!
Growing up I never even heard of the home versions of a Neo Geo, the most I ever saw was the odd arcade cabinet and then those disappeared too. And here we are again. An updated retro-mini console-esque Neo Geo that I never even heard of until now 😄
I'd add the PSP GO with the dock to the list of hybrid consoles. Great video!
LOVE my NEOGEO X! How do you keep the rubber back from getting sticky? Mine is tacky on all the rubber surfaces. Thanks!!!
I have a neo geo gold x and a 2nd controller I leave it in the boxes since I can play all the neo geo games I want on the switch. I sold my og neo geo aes & I regretted it. good video keep up the good work.
I'm sure there were handhelds other than the Nomad that allowed TV output. One of the later PSP revisions had its own cables to output to a TV and supported pairing with a Dualshock 3. There were a bunch of cheap Chinese handhelds with composite output too, but they typically accessed a different set of games (LCD-style handheld games, and Famicom emulation on the TV).
I vividly remember my dad buying me one of those PSP output cables… only to realize that it didn’t support the PSP 1000 😔
@@5persondude even though it has the port... So dumb.
@@RemoWilliams1227
PSP 1000 did not support video output, the port to the right of the 3.5mm headset jack on PSP 1000 only supported the wired media remote if you used PSP as an MP3 player or something like that. Every other version of the PSP except the E1000 had video out. PSP 1000 didn't even have options for video out in the XMB because the HW did not support it where all other PSPs did.
@@RemoWilliams1227 it did not have the port
He even embarrassingly mentioned the PSP too. The PSP Go was as much of a Switch precursor as you can get--bluetooth controller and everything. Even more so than the weird console he goes on about the entire time in this video
probably need to find mine as I have a fully loaded one of these with jailbreak software to boot. the SD card slot was a standard one except a couple of the pins were swapped.
Geez seeing this reminds me of the old video of Ashens reviewing this.
If your dedicated retro handheld can be beaten by a hacked PSP, you're already in trouble. To be fair, that arcade stick looks godly, it's a shame they stopped making it because of a crappy system.
I had the PSP go with the TV out cradle. You could also sync a PS3 controller via bluetooth predating the Neo Geo X for 5 years I thinks
I'd also love to see a video on the homebrew Vita dock that one can make with a Raspberry Pi.
This is totally the OG hybrid console/handheld, looks amazing, I wish I knew about it back in the day.
Many years later, I'm still kicking myself for not getting this system.
7 minutes in, I'm no longer kicking myself.
7 minutes in, I'm no longer kicking myself.
the clicky d-pad, analog to the Neo Geo Pocket and the CD controller was one of it's best features.
SNK kinda borked this with the Nei Geo mini release.
I forgot that it existed! I remember that I wanted one if I could get a custom ROM that would make it feel more like a Dingoo type device with music and video playback features, but I don't think one was ever developed. I also forgot that the back kinda looked like the back of a BlackBerry phone of the time.
The best outcome perhaps is Neo Geo X Dock with a Pi as the emulator: not quite hybrid but for someone with a dock this does atleast unleash a new lease of life.
1:27 truer words have never been spoken.
Another forgotten hybrid system was the PSPgo. It had video output, could connect to a DualShock 3 controller and even had an official dock.
It had it's share of issue (like the lack of UMD support) but the original PSP couldn't connect to a controller and the PSVita lacked the video output.
I think the accepted definition of hybrid means there is a hardware interface between the console and your external display. The PSP just had a cable, not the same thing, imo... any handheld can shunt a cable out the side for video out.
@@jong2359 The PSP Go had an actual Dock which it connected to for video out.
I honestly have never seen or heard of the PSP-N340 dock (cradle.) I stand corrected. Also, I can not reply to your comment because google wont allow your name verbatim in the comments.... censorship on youtube has gotten BAD in the last 24 hours.
@@jong2359 Haha sorry for the trouble. Google would not stop pinging me about using my real name, so I just set it to what it is to get them to stop pinging me.
LOL that is hilarious... not even your fault, it is a perfectly fine name and google should not be censoring it as plain text.
Sony PSP could output component.
500 for a NEO GEO X? Yikes. Better to put that money towards a real AES or a NeoSD Pro AES is you already own the console.
Great video as always. I do wish SNK would've let TOMMO keep selling the controllers. They felt pretty decent when I tried them out.
I kept thinking for a while I wanted a Neo Geo X even when the Switch was out. But now you can play a good chunk of the Neo Geo library on the Switch.
Well that was weird as I was thinking about the Neo Geo X yesterday, it looked really cool but I was really hoping for a improved version later on
I remember my friend picking this up back then and all I can think of now is how this was a pre Switch lol
I wanted a Neo-Geo so bad, I used the dock from the Neo-Geo X and put a raspberry pi p3 model b board in it. Loaded all of the AES, MVS, and CD games onto it. Was hoping this thing would have been sucessful.
I wanted one of these back then because of how slick it looked and hoped for a homebrew scene. But never got around to it.
Wow. 2012...
Got one at launch & had to go to a dozen places to find the damn thing. It was cool for about 3 months.
The microswitch thumbstick is awesome til it gives out and gets all mushy. Gave up on homebrew cause it required hardware modifications. PSP & 3DS homebrew scene were both vastly superior.
What could have been if they only got the emulation right. Fantastic video!
Anyone know if the composite output to a crt had the same issues with artifacting and screen tearing or was is on par with the original aes composite?
Would be cool to list all the neo geo X games that are now available on switch. Essentially we could just recreate this.
You didn't mention the PSP Go that also had a dock with TV output that released in 2009
RIP go, it could've been a neat PSP refresh
Slightly off-topic, but I think that besides the obvious price problems, another problem with the original NeoGeo was that it's games were all just high-quality ports of arcade games (or at least that was it's selling point). At the time it released, arcades were still around, and it was much more affordable to spend a few dollars in quarters for a public arcade cabinet, and get your money's worth of playtime, then it is to pay a grand on a super-expensive console, play it for a few hours, and eventually shelf the console because you've played all it has to offer.
After all, arcade games are not very long by design. They are focused on being exciting enough to catch people's interest, and difficult enough to drain quarters for repeat attempts. But once you are good at the game, most arcade games can be comfortably beaten in a few hours.
Another great video, thanks!
Great vid! Makes you wonder what if Sony made the Vita to be a hybrid system OR even better… they make a new Vita that is hybrid!
I'm not gonna lie, I still play my Neo Geo X Gold. The joysticks were the big thing for me as they do a fairly good job of giving a Neo Geo experience without spending $600. Such a neat little oddity in emulated systems. And yeah the option of taking a handheld on the go was cool back in the day.
I bought a Sega Nomad and a handful of games probably 15 years ago at a flea market for about 50-60 bucks and had a blast because we couldn't afford one of those (With 2 siblings) when I was a kid!
Great outro music ❤
would the PSP 2000 series count as hybrid as well because you can also TV output that unit
good video, but it seem to you have forgotten to mention PC engine LT when introducing hybrid game console
What about the PSPGo with its dock? That was for me a hybrid way to play on the fly and on the TV with dualshock 3
I brought one right from the GameStop near me...we SNK fans definitely need another version of this... With higher Quality and WiFi to download games and to play online...👏🧐💯🥂
Cool concept. Imagine a Nomad 2 with bulit in games and hdmi output. I'd get 1. Also if it had a optional dock that looked like a Genesis, just for decoration
I have one of these, and I remember really hoping it'd work well. Unfortunately, mine had a busted switch for the clicky stick, so movement to the right didn't click. Might not sound like much, but it was pretty bad when every other direction clicked.
I remember trying to email support, or _anyone_ about this to try at least to get a replacement part I could de-solder/re-solder myself (if possible), but I never got any response. I still like the usb Neo Geo sticks, although I never really use them for anything even if they'd probably be good for emulation.
I still wish this thing would work well, but now it just kinda sleeps in the Neo-Geo sized game case that came with the game pack with all the games they were offering. Doubt I'll ever pull it out again.
If SNK made a similar sized AES classic console like NES, SNES, etc. like this with two controllers and loaded with games ~$150, I'd get it. I remember seeing the original console sitting on the shelf back in the day, $600 for console $150 for controller. I think I remember seeing at least one game for $80. This was when NES games could be had for $40-$50 and were long-play games vs. arcade. Funny how people don't mind paying $550 for a console and $150 for 'elite' controllers now. And companies hide $100 games behind DLC.
I wanted to get one but it wasn’t in the cards, years later I picked up the Neo Geo mini in the collectables area of a Gamestop of all places.
Sakurai had briefly touched on this device, in his terry bogard smash reveal video.
wonderful machine, if just some developers or indie games could make SRPGs and platforms on it, so much potential.
Awesome video!!
Wow. Kinda bonkers how this device flew under the radar! I always looked at the SNK adverts in the back of Games Master witha jealous eye - I've never even seen any SNK hardware IRL :|
What about the Master System compact? Release in 1992 was 100% wireless and played all master system games. Check it out.
Funny, we can all still get these games on PS4/Pro, PS5, on all Xboxes, and some can be had on the Nintendo Switch.
I remember watching Ashens review this as a teenager and thinking it was the coolest thing ever
I have known about this device for some time and always hoped that if Nintendo made a Switch successor; they make the dock look like a console and have the tablet slide in (perhaps make it look like an SNES replica and the tablet would be like a cart with a 7inch Bezel less OLED screen).
PC-Engine and Game Boy games could be played on home and portable system variations (the latter an adaptor for the Super NES, with even the GBA platform being playable via a different adapter for the GameCube), making the platform hybrid if not the systems themselves, similar to Vita platform with the addition of the PSTV;. Also, PSP-2000, 3000, and Go were true hybrid consoles, with the Go capable of using PS3 controllers while plugged in to the TV (though, because charging and video output both use the same port, it requires a specific dock that does both to truly consolize the system, and it costs more than a PSGO at this point). Too bad the Neo Geo X project was shutdown before it could be perfected.
PSP was alsp a hybrid console, with its component cables.
I remember when this thing came out and just didn't have the cash for this considering the emulation and buying games separately. I had a psp and gp2x for on the go emulation. Shame we still have yet to get a neo Geo mini in this shape.
I’m hoping for an upcoming video that’s sets the record straight about the Wii U NAND
So many hybrids though. Panasonic Q as GameCube/DVD among others. JVC X Eye Genesis, Karaoke and more, others consoles with computer options. Ngage/Gamecom/Gizmondo/Zodiac for PDA/Phone and gaming hybrids then just to the tv hybrids. Besides well tablets/phones cable or wireless to the tv (besides mobile computing being a hybrid). Didn't know the NEO GEO had an X system (during or before the mini console period?) come out also cool it can be hooked up in such a way too wow. But the Nomad yes. PSP 2000 too. Turbo Express yeah didn't have a video out did it? Pocket PCs/PDAs having a dock. Tapwave Zodiac and Gizmondo only PC syncing like a PSP to a PC no video out I think but those and the Ngage are hybrid because their Mobile or PDAs on the go. Even the Tiger Gamecom had apps a computer would have so they count right? The Switch is great but Nintendo fans over talk it's dock the only impressive is the Joycons splitting and the splitscreen for a console otherwise it's nothing special for video to the TV when so many companies computer or console space existed before the Switch.
Tapwave Zodiac, Gizmondo Tiger, Gamecom and Nokia Ngage are hybrid for being phone or PDAs and gaming handheld consoles on the go.
I like projected devices to the TV handhelds (Nomad, PSP2000/PSP Go) Pocket PCs with a dock/video cable, a smartphone wirelessly, laptop/tablet with mini/regular HDMI, Super Gameboy to the TV but there is just something.about the Dreamcast, GameCube/GBA/Wii U being dual screen cable or wireless than projecting only 1 screen that makes it more impressive to me. Or dual screen smartphones doing more like use 2 apps at once then the DS/3DS being limited for connection to the same handheld but not two apps just the two visual elements with the 1 software each time.
SNK needs to make this in house, increase the quality along with the emulation and sell it again
They really should have done that like 5-6 years ago when the handheld marketplace wasn't *so* saturated. They could have established some build quality standards that kept the chink (youtube made me use that word, I literally could not post the proper country name) companies at bay.