WOW! He Just (Finally) Fixed My Picking! |ft Ben Eller
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Throw Andy Wood in and by golly.. that'd rock
The cream of the crop. Ooo yeah!!!
Awesome stuff! I don’t know how I didn’t know about Benn’s channel but I’m definitely subscribing! 🤘🤘
Cesario Filho and Chris Brookes will unlock "the Yng-Way" for you, my fellow newly minted Yngwie Strat owner friend 😉
As a video that was meant to help guitar players, it came across as just frustrating to watch. I would ask if possible do a "follow up" video of this with tabs on screen of whats going on and more close up of the finger where you Robert Baker are talking to us the viewer so it feels more 1 on 1.
This was a video of watching Robert Baker getting a guitar lesson with a minor close up here or there whilst the actual audience is trying to look through the spy whole gather as much information as possible from vague blocks. Or in your analogy instead of a perfectly executed Flying Elbow Drop from the top, a botch drop kick whilst breaking your own wrist on break fall from said drop kick.
What I learned most from this video is that nothing can really replace a one on one lesson with a teacher.
I’m annoyed as this doesn’t teach us anything. Especially as someone in a rut with that playing this just shows us nothing.
@@BetterCallJamie This is a great lesson from Ben. If you didn't get anything from it, that's on you.
That’s a great point! I watch these thinking, man, I’m glad I grew up in the era of shredders, late 80s. We learned great technique, from great teachers.
Then along the way, it became cool to get a band going, even playing gigs, before ever learning the craft, ha ha. Nirvana is a great example of that. And a huge exception, as their legendary status denotes.
Yeah, all that cracking the code, or this vid, os something I’ve always done-and learned from my great teacher back in the day.
People can get by, and very few can even be great, with seemingly terrible or unorthodox technique. So that is cool. But nothing wrong with getting lessons, learning your craft. All this will help your creativity, and decrease frustration. And I t sure looks a lot cooler, ha ha. So yeah, like we’ve always said, learn the rules before you break them. Or like I always say, learn from others mistakes. You don’t have to make them all yourself.😝🤘🏻🎸🇺🇸
@@dtread9543 as someone pointed, it's no fault of the information given, it wasn't presented well, no tab no close up. No after thought, and just promotes the fact online lessons are just beyond awful whilst face to face is needed.
Most people are not as good at observing themselves as they think. Filming your playing helps, too as it’s more objective.
Thanks for having me on, handsome! Let’s do it again sometime. Oh, BTW, how’s the speed burst approach working for you?
Look at us just a couple of young pups pickin their life away. The burst picking has been going great already seeing improvements thanks again for the vid buddy.
Is Robert super tall, or is Uncle Ben stepdad height?
@@BasedHyperborean🤣
As a 33 year old who's just now started addressing his picking technique after 20 years of stubbornly being like "I brute force some sort of speed out of whatever technique I've got," this was refreshing. It's not every day you see someone who's objectively a good guitar player already admit to a limitation and start working to overcome it. Kudos to you Robert!
33 year old here learning the same shit after 20 years of playing
Tom Hess's content helped me too. He tends to get into all the intricacies of playing techniques.
@@itsalwayssomething7490You should do a litte research about Tom Hess, or you already know and are one of his slaves 😂
@@danteravenveren1278 hahaha. Ok, research what? I watched a few of his videos on picking and it helped. What do I need to find out about him to negate that? And one of his "slaves?" Haha. I don't even know what this means. So, finding videos that helped, and sharing that requires me to research him or I'm his slave? Get help, my guy. Seriously.
My sustained alternate picking has always been my weakest link. I need to find a good teacher, lol.
To acknowledge a weakness, even a tiny one, and then to take in some pointers in real time is a very brave and modest thing to do. That in itself is maybe the greatest lesson of this video. It helps explain why you, sir, are such a great player and teacher.
Phenomenal! My two favorite YT guitar teachers in one room together sharing secrets. A+.
Same - only 2 guys I am subscribed too when it comes to guitar. 👍
@johnathondupuis1301 what about rhett shull? You no like?
The cutest and best hair, too.
That was awesome, I totally get the pick trajectory and all the points. I’m not a fast picker at all so I’m gonna have a go at this adjustment and see how I get on. 🤘🏻
Uncle Ben is a gifted teacher…and not a bad picker either 👍
Not bad? Lol he’s great
Uncle Ben is awsome, been a fan of his forever! Two great masters of guitar prowess. Both these guys are my absolute favorites, plus Dave at late night lessons.
This video actually teaches an important philosophical lesson, in addition to the excellent picking instruction. Humility is the only way to improve. Admit you need to grow, and pursue that growth with humility, and the world is yours! Bravo, and thank you.
Troy Grady is an absolute treasure to the shred guitar community.
Are there must watch videos of he's to get started? Or do I just need to consume all his content and let it absorb over time as I implement his teachings?
@@stiman1 just go through cracking the code episodes on YT and join his CtC community if you want full access to his breakdowns and content. Ive been a subscriber on and off when I want to revisit some stuff with more guidance. I also can recommend Chris brooks guitar books. He has two books on learning yngwie style picking and sweeping that I love, neoclassical speed strategies. Also shout out to Ben eller!
@@stiman1 also I think the overall concept of Troy's material is that you probably already slant the pick in some way and it's more about seeing how the greats navigate fast picking with string changes... simply being aware of certain terminology and mechanics that Troy "uncovered" and catalogued will allow you to hone your own unique picking style...
I've learned countless exercises, licks, songs Etc... From both of you. I have so much respect for everything you both have done for us musicians!!! Very grateful for the time & knowledge both of you have given me!!! Your channels are the top ones on CZcams! 🤘🤘🤘
I know I've been watching Ben for years and learning along with y'all. But, watching him 1-on-1 teaching impresses me even more! Great teacher!
Two guitars. Eight heads. Four combo amps. And one cord.
But seriously, great lesson.
Wowww Uncle Ben And Baker collaboration... 🎉💯
Brilliant! Thanks guys!
That was fun and very informative. Thanks!!
I gave you a "like" as soon as this started. Loved the idea of you and Ben pairing!!! Hopefully you guys can do it more, even virtually.
I could watch these kinds of lessons 24/7... so much collective experience yet hearing about how certain things were a challenge (or even continue to be) is actually super encouraging to all of us struggling with our own roadblocks...
Haha Keys the Lamborghini. Is a Michael Angelo Batio reference!
Lol "Don't Move Thumb!" Thanks Robert for an excellent t-shirt ideal. Great video!
he "instantly wants to go joint" 9:36 haha
Thanks for sharing these concepts! I had no idea about downward pick slanting technique.
I began working those speed bursts a few years ago and it did wonders for my playing. You start looking at those phrases as one single motion(s) and it works into other areas of your playing. Really wakes up part of the brain that comprehends what is possible, ya know? I mean, everything about the execution of playing is really just a big trust factor. You have to believe in what you are doing.
Man!! My two favorites. This is like when Daredevil and Punisher appeared in each others comic books pursuing the same criminal. Except that there was fighting, misunderstanding and little to no guitar talk.
Uncle Ben always has great exercises. Thanks guys!!!
Awesome! I need to practice this. Thanks guys!
Two of my favorite CZcams guitarists in the same video. Awesome!
Uncle Ben's Walk This Way tutorial showed me how to play this song after 40 Years of trying
Great lesson, first time checking out your page. Looking forward to going through your content. Thanks for what you do.
This was very insightful, thanks guys.
He's my favorite biological step dad, uncle Ben. Very informative video and I've got more guitar homework to do.
Since I am old and sentimental, I think this video will be very difficult to top. I've learned tons from both this amazing teachers.
Those sixteen minutes went by quickly. Very helpful!
Awesome lesson. I like how Ben cuts straight to the picking issues and fixes them. He is honest, clear and demystifies. Some guys are great shredders, but Ben is that and a great teacher too. He gets what we don't get. Super!
This gives me hope. Great collab. Thanks for doing it
Now THAT! was helpfull! THANK YOU, SIRS!
Awesome. That was definitely a long time coming. Hopefully now that you guys are near the same area you'll be able to do more collaborations.
Freaking awesome video Robert!!!!! You two are so similar in how you deliver. Hope you can do more like this!
OMG! That instantly helped my speed and accuracy. Thank you Robert and Ben!!! Great video!!!
Hi, my name is Antonio, and I am - I was (until I saw this video) a thumb wiggler. I couldn't figure out why I always had trouble with the B and high E on occasion when playing the intro to Sweet Child - and it was because my thumb was wiggling the pick out of position, away from the string. I knew I was doing it, but I figured I must be able to adjust everything else to compensate for it, because thumb wiggling gives me more flexibility - right? Wrong! It gave me less ability to aim - and the wrist is a much bigger & better muscle group than the thumb joint to control the pick - so, thanks again for another very useful lesson! Edit : After playing around for an hour and half, paying attention to the thumb, I'm catching myself doing it all the time - and as I mentioned earlier, on the Sweet Child intro, I had been missing the B and high E on occasion - and now I know exactly what the problem was - that thumb knuckle is usually a little bent, but to hit the B and high E, the knuckle was straightening, as if to try to push the thumb in more, which ended up also turning the index finger, which ultimately just pushed the pick down and away from the strings, in an arc. It is so clear now - no more twitchy thumb here = much better playing! This is pretty exciting, as this was holding me back - and this is one of those things that solves a problem across the board, and takes me to the next level, so thanks again 🙂
Many thanks to you both! Extremely helpful advice!
This is great. By the way, Paul Gilbert said in one of his teaching videos that he liked starting licks on upstrokes and had no idea why. It's amazing such great players kept at whatever worked for them but without much digging into the mechanics. FWIW, had pick and thumb 'waggle' issues until I changed my pick grip to make sure the index finger is in line with the thumb, not pointing down to the point of the pick. It helps lock the pick and thumb angle better.
This is a great video. I’m absorbing so much. The angled escape picking is a tremendously satisfying awesome technique. Great practice suggestions in order to avoid common pitfalls. Robert fantastic as always, and Benn thank you for not only helping Robert, but the rest of us as well. 🤘🎸🤘
Interesting tips in this Robert and Ben. I've made it a mission to strengthen my up stroked descending patterns for years, but lapse into lazy. I sweep pick with pull-offs. I also modify my picks to compensate for that ramped attack by giving them a forward bend. I've done this consciously for a very long time and now realize why. I have a vid up on arpeggios with a variety of picking attack to inspire my viewers. For myself, I tend to focus on weaknesses in my technique, and try to fix them. After almost 50 years of playing guitar, I'm ok to admit I'm still learning.
Uncle Ben and Robert Baker!!! two of the guitarist I love so much I support their work and take lessons/courses from! Outstanding! You guys are awesome! 🤘👍
Thank you, Guys! I never considered the “escape angle, as Ben puts it. I would constantly get tripped up on fast runs and now I see my pick is getting caught between strings. Feel like my eyes have been opened!
@BenEller rocks!!! One of the best on CZcams. Spell his name right Robert!
The burst is powerful.
Thanks for this very helpful video!
I just watched a video from Ben yesterday that had a significant improvement on my picking already. Thanks for doing these videos!
Great!! I'm not a shredder but as I've gotten older I've noticed how my pick accuracy has not kept up with my fingering on faster required runs. I do exactly the wrong motions (angle) as discussed. I'll soon find out if this old dog can learn new techniques. This video was spot on !! Robert and Ben Thanks and Cheers!!!
It's amazing how well Ben can explain things. He's my teacher on Patreon I think he's the best
He's the one who finally helped me understand pick slanting/string escapes.
Freaking awesome my two favorite guitar teachers together doing the guitar thang. Totally loved this!!!
In my experience, almost all alternate picking problems are caused by weak/inefficient upstrokes. Having more trouble descending combined with a less stable grip confirms this. When you consider how natural downstrokes are vs upstrokes it makes perfect sense. No one ever really asks how to do downstrokes. The reason we ask about alternate picking is because the upstroke is unnatural and literally goes against gravity. The same way metal guys practice downstroke only for some riffs. I highly advocate for practicing licks/scales with upstrokes only at slower tempos, of course. Doing so will force you to learn how to do the most rigid, efficient upstroke possible. Your max upstroke picking speed should be equivalent to your max downstroke speed. If it's not, then that's what results in fatigue/tension and that tripping feeling when playing. Ben's recommendation of speed bursts finishing on an upstroke getting "air" is essentially training this. I have an exercise I use to train this except I recommend practicing starting on both upstrokes and downstrokes. The less limitations you have in your technique the more freedom you have musically, especially when improvising.
Start with both Up and down strokes with 16th notes. To do a triplet version just double all of the 7s which will have you alternating inside and outside picking on the way up. Hope this helps anyone who finds it.
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Already subbed to the both of you for several years. You guys are truly the very best on CZcams.
Without question, the most helpful picking advice I ever received. Many thanks!
Fantastic video guys! I really enjoyed it, thanks. Ben is a great teacher indeed.
UNCLE BEN!!!!! Thanks for the tips fellas!
I got to tour with Unearth and Buzz is an amazingly consistent bad ass. Night after night, dude just doesn’t get sloppy or miss notes. Great video.
Ole Uncle Ben is a great guy and great teacher. Appreciate both you guys. Yall should write a song together .
Thank you very much for this video, it’s very educational.🙏
Really great stuff. Thank you both. And Ben you may not be the absolute best but you sure are up there with whoever is.
And Robert is a very good man as well.
Its great seeing 2 awesome players discussing their weakness on guitar, it really helps us all to learn and have confidence to get better, great lesson.
Dope! appreciate both u guys! 🤘🤘
Uncle Ben - what a great teacher :)
I commented on a different video that I was going through a picking change with more of a closed hand and Ben Ellers videos is where I was getting the instruction! He is a great teacher and guitarist!
Fascinating. Like when you see a golf pro taking lessons and realise that everyone still needs help sometimes...
2 phenomenal players. Great video. Thanks.👍
You have a great channel also. I love uncle ben’s channel cause he can do it all and has that smart ass attitude that is a riot.
Making some Tennessee connections I see. Awesome!
This is fantastic. I've been struggling with this for decades.
Love Bens charvel - I’ve been keen on that myself!
EXCELLENT, loved it!!
Love it. Two of my favorite guitarists/teachers on the same vid. Guess you guys live closer now.
We are still about 3 hrs apart sadly.
Hell yeah, 2 legends
Excellent video and captivating to watch. You're both great players in your own right, but you always learn more by playing with someone with more advanced skills. Just like going to school, it also proves the importance of having a great teacher. Both of you guys check that box for sure!
Damn he articulates his examples perfectly
i learn something every time i watch Ben. I'm playing along as i watch this and already feel myself breaking through the step dad speed barrier
I was today years old when I found out I'm a thumb wiggler. Ben is excellent, knows how to use analogies for his explanations so well.
I think picking is one of the most overlooked aspects of guitar playing… once most people get “good enough” they move on because there’s so much for the left hand to do… but eventually everyone must submit to the alter of alternate picking…
Ben is my favorite person to learn guitar solos from. If it weren't for him I doubt I would ever have learned tornado of souls. I play it almost every day.
3 years later and I almost have it down at regular speed 😂
These two together, this is going to be classic. LOL
That's some awesome sauce right there brothers!🎸🎸
Two of my favorite guitar teachers!!!
Just following along my picking improved lol. Amazing video. ❤
My two favorite guitar content creators! Wow! Love it! 10 stars of 10 starts in quality teachers, players and humans. Greatness 360 degrees. Thank you!
An incredible lesson!! Will take me years to be able to master that picking style.
Great video, thanks !
woah this just completely opened up my mind in looking at how i pick! thank you!
Ben's video explaining chord tones and Roberts 80s rock content. Two GOATs right there. 🐐🐐
Holy crap! Robert and Ben with a crazy helpful free lesson! This is what makes YT great.
It would be interesting to see the crossover between the two of y'all's (that's Southern Speak, Robert, you'll get used to it .. ask Ben) channels. I bet it's a fairly large. \m/
Holy shit this was amazing. Ben is like yoda
This is the collaboration the world needs.🎸🤘
very happy to see them together!! Greetings from argentina!
Great seing you guys together \m/
This is a better crossover than the Avengers movies.
Great mashup of two of my favorites
Uncle Ben is in the house!!!!!! Hell Yeahhhh!!!!!!!!
Good stuff guys! Opened my eyes to some bad habits I've been attempting to hone to perfection.