Why Mobile Suit GUNDAM '79 (Still) Matters
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
- MOBILE SUIT GUNDAM is a tremendous franchise that has spawned a lot of animes, mangas, merchandise and even real life robots. And even though there are countless stories that have expanded the franchise to new frontiers, everything originated in the 1979 series helmed by Yoshiyuki Tomino.
And in this video, Absa tells us why he thinks that even though Gundam 79 hasn't aged very well, it's important for Gundam fans to return to this anime, or movie trilogy, in order to understand the core concepts of the series... that and to enjoy the anime that gave birth to Universal Century and the conflict between Earth Federation and Zeon, between Char Aznable and Amuro Ray.
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#QuestionsOfTheDay: Would you watch a remake/retell of Gundam '79 with modern storytelling techniques?
Or, would you rather prefer a Thunderbolt anime with its alternate retelling of early Universal Century?
I would really like an up-dated version of the original series Gundam Mobile Suit- 79, although I think that's what they kind of tried to do with Gundam Seed and Gundam Seed Destiny, I would much rather have an actual Universal Century, cannon correct version.
I wouldn’t mind it being like The Origins/Thunderbolts anime style. I really like The Origins story line. We know everyone loves the show so if they remake it in someway it would be a hour long.
I would like to see an adaptation of the Gundam novels, with each of the three volumes (from the book) being adapted into a Mamoru Oshii styled film.
I have only watched the movies compilations, but I would really like an update art style similar to origin or a more classic one like the ova of stardust memory retelling the events of the series with bits of extra details.
I know this maybe a bit off-topic but what the Universal Century really needs is the Gundam ZZ (Double Zeta- UC 0087) made into a trilogy (with some up-dating), cutting out all the ridiculousness of the first half and focusing more on the second part and the first Neo Zeon war. It would also be great if could be made with an Eng dub audio track, for personal reasons I can't really watch /read Eng Subbed anime.
Gundam 0079 portrays the story of a group of youths without military training forced to fight a war on the front lines. Both sides have people who don't wish to have to kill others and who question the morality of war. Due to this, you'll often find yourself not only cheering for the central heroes, but also their antagonists since they too are fighting for a cause they are passionate about. The anime's themes of war, corruption, the value of human life and grayness of morality will also cause the viewer to reflect on morality as well. Another great aspect of the original Gundam is the fights. great video
Like with Pokémon:
Youth are youth, there is never a reason to turn the word into false plural form that is "youths."
@@linyenchin6773 Ramba Ral is one of the standout characters.
Origin isn't perfect, but happy to see him fleshed out more.
I'm glad I started with the 79 gundam. I wanted to have more of an emotional attachment to my gunpla figures so I began watching.
This. I started with IBO and was scared at the scale of UC so it was an isolated incident for a while until I decided that I would once and for all watch UC Gundam. I watched 00 as a sort of 'preparation' and then began with the first three movies of the One-Year-War then just went down chronologically: Zeta, ZZ, Counterattack, and finally Unicorn. And, my God, the payoff when I got to Unicorn was unfathomable. I feel bad for anyone who started with it because it's just a disservice, Unicorn is like starting a book at its last chapter. Even if its so excellent, it becomes brilliance with context.
@@thealliedpowers I started with Unicorn. Specifically, the tv version that had 22 minute long episodes. I made a comment earlier today explaining how that happened.
@@thealliedpowersand you have to witness 8th MST, 0083 and 0080.
These three OAV are incredibly well written and Will make you question even harder on the theme of futility of War.
Then you can approach Thunderbolt December Sky, the most straight in your face war drama of all UC
@@riblo72 yeah i've seen all of those in between watching the other entries, except 0083 but im reading the manga adaptation for it right now. thunderbol's my favorite of those, it's very viscerally real and "un-sanitized"
@@thealliedpowers Yes, Thunderbolt and 0080 are the stories that really hit you in the guts.
If you want more grim Gundam Try Victory too.
"Confused Gundam, as a Transformer"
*Loads Beam Magnum with Violent Intent*
activates NT-D
Summons Phenex through sacrificial Newtype ritual.
Really wish they didn't sideline Sayla in the following series, she's always best girl for me in the entire franchise (spinoffs included)
It is a shame. Her lack of presence in Char's Counterattack was also unfortunate.
I've heard they wanted her in both but her actress was frequently on sabbatical and not available.
I recently finished the original gundam series for the first time. It was so good. Now I'm on Zeta Gundam.
My first experience with Gundam in general was back in October of 2016. My mom had grounded me for stupid reasons so I couldn't play any video games for that weekend. I was allowed to watch TV, though. On Toonami, there was a marathon for Iron Blooded Orphans. It started somewhere after ep10 of season 1 so missed a lot but I didn't care. I was interested in the plot and fights. I continued to watch each week until the season was over.
Once the season finished airing on Toonami, it was announced that Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorm would fill in the time slot, starting in January of 2017. I had trouble following the plot because I didn't know I had to watch other series. It kept referencing things like Char's Rebellion, the One Year War, and the Zabi family. Things that I didn't understand until just recently. I still kept watching each week until Unicorn finished airing. Even at the end, I didn't understand what had happened.
This series is still good to watch. It showed our main characters aren't soldiers that are forced to fight in the war. They have to fight to survive and suffer a lot. They learn to overcome each other first before they can work together as a group.
I feel like Gundam doesn't get respect it deserves from the overall anime fandom. A lot of anime fans pretend like mecha genre didn't "grow up" until Evangelion. But Gundam was hitting mature topics all the way back in 1979. The two major themes of 0079 are the loss of innocence and the horrors of war. The scene where Amuro goes to the refugee camp to reunite with his mother and she is horrified to see him shoot the Zeon soldiers is amazingly written and hits home the fundamental themes of the series.
Not only is Gundam incredibly influential, creating the real robot genre that dominated the 80s and 90s, but I think it still has a great story. While the pacing isn't great, like many anime of the 70s and 80s, the story is timeless. Amuro being forced to grow up, Char's machinations behind the scenes, the greed and backstabbing by leaders on both sides of the conflict. I think that's why we can get something like the Origin manga, which is a streamlined retelling of 0079 with very few changes, that is still amazing.
The themes and particular aspects have been iterated on by future Gundam series and other series, meaning that 0079 inspired so many creators. In the last year, I watched Armored Trooper Votoms and Galactic Wanderer Vifam. Both of these mecha series (also made by Sunrise) are the opposites at face value. Votoms is a grim story about the horrors of war. Vifam is a hopeful story about children surviving a conflict. But both were clearly inspired by different aspects of Gundam.
At the end of the day, I think 0079 should be watched by everyone who claims to be passionate about anime. While some things about the original TV series might be dated, I think the three compilation movies are still great. I would still suggest them as a great intro to this massive franchise, that often is hard for people to get into.
The movie trilogy is how I got into Gundam. It is frankly superb. Well animated, well narrated, well written, serious in tone and tense
This anime is without of doubt an unrivalled masterpiece that still retains its legendary importance and influence to this day. Its strange how this is the only famous anime that hasn't got a modern anime treatment yet.
**a unrivalled,* why abuse English grammar via asserting "an unrivalled," do you not know the "n" of "an" only exists where the first letter of the following word is a vowel(a, e, i, o, u or y)???
Who is popularizing this downgrade of the English language?
You aren't the only personnwith nonsense of where to use "an" verses "a."
@@linyenchin6773 bro chill out
@@gustavomasters3456 well you butchered English with your last line.
@@linyenchin6773 Heaven forbid somebody makes a mistake! Or perhaps english isn't his first language, ever cross your mind mr perfect?
Just one reason. Yoshiuki Tomino. The creator of Gundam is jealous of his creature and he would not accept a anime remake of the original series done by other people
And he is not interested on working on a modern version himself. He already did the movie trilogy that in his mind is the definitive version of the story.
I'm currently doing a rewatch of all of UC's animes in chronological order. I have to say that it would've been nice to have the background information on the Zabi family prior to watching the original '79 anime. The bonds between the siblings are way more fleshed out in the prequel. With this kind of knowledge, watching the original anime made much more sense to me.
When I finish the Zeta rewatch I will return to this channel and watch you video on it. Until then, please produve more if this content. I rather enjoyed watching it. I'll definitely leave a sub. Keep it up bro!
What I like about the original series and the movie trilogy to an extent, is that it's truly a series using the Gundam as a medium. Now a days only newtypes can pilot Gundams, but for the original series it wasn't like that.
Best Gundam stories don't have Newtypes
0080
0083
8th MS team
December sky
the original characters and arc story is quite good.... infact if the polish it more personally i think its still resonate with the general audience in our current time.
It would require leadership able and willing to show the restraint to _not_ mess with it. I'm not sure such leadership exists anywhere, or may in fact have ever existed. The greatest test of humility for creators is faithfully remaking the work of another. It would indeed be a mighty thing if it were done. Modern animation techniques and audio quality could truly make a clearer vision of a grand story and great characters.
Hell yea 0079 still matters! I absolutely love the original series, well the whole universal century timeline. I hope one day we can get a hd remake or something like the origin stories. Great video bro 🤘🏻
Great theory about the new-types and social media! Thanks for sharing!
Where did the HD footage from the OG anime come from? it looks so good compared to the movie trilogy I just watched on Netflix.
youtube recommended this to me like 10 seconds after it was uploaded
Wow, thank you for all those awesome and detail info. Now I need to watch those 3 movies. By the way, I like your background and nice collection! 😀
For the next topic: Can you tell explain more and detail about
*_Gundam Reconguista in G_* please.
Can you tell me which version is the snippet at 4:30? I know this is supposedly from the 79 Gundam but the original anime looked horrible. This looks like a remake but I can’t find where it is coming from.
Early 2000s Gundam game
I started with Gundam X, then the SEED series, then 00, Iron-blooded Orphans and those Build series, have watched a fair amount of UC series, and now took on the 1979 original.
I actually watched the trilogy last weekend and i feel it is more concise. Definitely an easier way to digest the original story. It missed a few MINOR points but I thoroughly enjoyed it.
i don't know what Gundam this guy was watching but Char was trying to kill the Gundam and Amuro before Lalah died. He wanted to beat the Gundam due to his pride as a pilot. After Amuro killed Lalah was when he took it personally vs just his pride. Also Char and Lalah didn't know each other that well before She met Amuro. That why the whole relationship thing was really weird all of them didn't know each other that well
I like to believe that the Newtypes are more akin to neurodivergent people than your social media analogy.
and i only finished watching this recently, glad i had this recommended to me
Hey mate, cool video. Very cool tying the concept of Newtypes to modern technologies. Hadn't thought of it that way, but it's a very sound comparison.
If you don't mind my asking, did you use to do the video series 'Mecha Talk?' You sound an awful lot like that guy. If so, way cool to see your video glow-up, my dude. Keep on doing the good work!
I started with Gundam Wing on toonami and then watched 0079 after and you're right we're moving towards UC's reality unfortunately.
The only reason Gundam isn't more well known around the world, it's because they're not doing a good enough job at spreading it around the world. I love Gundam, but as a fan I can say that they could probably do better.
I prefer the original 43 episodes because it has better character development, though I agree the animation hasn’t aged well.
The trilogy movies look better, but I feel it rushes through things.
If I had a friend who wanted watch Gundam, I’d ask if they prefer story or higher quality animation. How they answer that, would determine which one they should watch.
That's the logical approach to take.
I'm not a major Gundam fan by any means, but I will admit, the franchise played a huge role in pop culture especially people's views on robots and how it can affect our society.
what version did you get your video from its the most crisp old gundam ive ever seen
I've started watching Gundam in release Order. I've currently finished Victory. My favorite is Zeta till now. Then watched the series because i couldn't find the movies anywhere and it was painful. By the time lalah appeared i was so done. Seeing her die made me laugh loudly and the ending gave me tears of joy
Super cool idea about newtypes and social media. Nice video!
I think it aged perfectly
G79 is a great series but I think it would really benefit from an update. The dialogue while acceptable then, is incredibly clunky. Zeta is the same way and Bandai knows that the fans love UC
There is only 1 con to this series. This anime needed additional 6 more episodes of storytelling put on newtype aspect to expand it.
Female portrayals are poorly done? The most powerful Newtype in the series and quite possibly the entire franchise was a girl.
Kycillia Zabi, Artesia Som Deikun, Mirai Yashima... even Icelina. They were all excellent characters.
i watched nearly every other series , befor the og
and man ...the og is amazing
a hd remake would be cool
I really hope someone sees this cause I've been trying to find the clip that starts around 00:17 seconds after seeing it in several videos, please help me find it!
Where did you get the newer video clips of the events of the original show from? The animation is clearly not from the OG 79 show.
I’m wondering that too. The original just looks horrible.
Perhaps you're referring to gundam: the origin. It's a prequel ova that came out much later. Here's a trailer.
czcams.com/video/D32reoeJtos/video.html
Edit: And here's a youtube playlist with the episodes
czcams.com/play/PLGwndFajrq2b-EjbFs1unETr6avUimZ7f.html
@@lonelywolf9294 yeah I know about that, but the OVA only covers events leading up to the start of the series. I'm talking about the clips he used in the video that are clearly from the events that actually happened in the original show, but also clearly don't use animation from 1979. The OVA never covered that.
i disagree. There was nothing wrong with female portrayals on these movies.
For a woke there is always something wrong.
I would really like to see a couple other versions of 0079 Gundam in the other styles like in G40 or Origin. Even a fully remastered/newly animated Mobile Suit Gundam 0079
You don't give the show's pacing nearly enough credit.
the 8 MS Team is my favorite
What's outdated about this and women. I thought the women were treated fairly in this show. You have many leaders and supportive characters who go through their own arc. What does this guy keep inferring about this show? Yeah, it isn't woke, and thank god for that, those types of people are self-destructive as well as destructive.
Women were treated fine in 0079 and then even Zeta had countless female pilots in it. Nothing about it is outdated or sexist in the slightest honestly.
@@RaidenPSX That's my opinion as well. I'm reading through Origin for First Gundam right now, although I like a lot of aspects of it, it just seems like they made Sayla colder as a character in order to make her more masculine than the original series, albeit, I'm only on the second book, so that could change.
Yeah I just watched through the series and it was honestly kinda progressive if you’re concerned about that sort of thing. I’m not really interested in the morality or framing of art, it’s more about how it’s executed. I also think to suggest art can age is already intellectually inept, it’s a failure of a critic to not evaluate works within their own context.
@@RaidenPSX And male and female characters alike act weird sometimes, but that's just the way Tomino writes.
Agree, thanks god this isn't a woke show.
Background music ,please?
Just subscribed❤
Calling the rx-78 a transformer is so stupid imo, itdoesn't have any kibble, if they called athe zeta a transformer then i could see where they were coming from sunce it has quite the back kibble
Hey you did a great job, I really enjoyed the video, I think one of the reasons the original series and all the ones that followed, are so thought provoking (and addictive to me), allot of the story is patterned after real political events and the major conflicts of the 20th century,( like WW2), just all kind of mixed up, so it's not just patterned after the history of a single country. That's just my own interpretation though. I'm really looking forward to next vid about Zeta Gundam.
I feel like rewatching UC now thanks man
It still matters for what it is. Because it is the FIRST ONE!
That is is the only Reason. It is Seminal!
your social media analogy is basically the worst of twitter/facebook lol
You slick for aot
I like the weird phonetic flow of your accent, it's confuzing me in how it sounds hispanic itallian and kinds arabic at the same time...but I find it endearing.
Newtype are not "psychics" in the traditional sense but closer to super soldiers whose powered up mind has borderline "psychic powers."
Char has a Batman level nervous system and mental power, Amuro starts out as average but quickly rises to the same level of enhanced nervous system and sports a Captain America level of cognitive potency~power. Only with Amuro's "paranormal perception" slightly above that of ether Black Panther or Captain America.
Your asessment is sufficient resolution for me to claim you as my Gundam brother, that is my final assessment.
I really like your videos but got three disagreements in this case: first, I don't think Tomino's early portrayals of women come from "the times" (hence "aging") as much as his weird MGTOW-ish attitude from the late 70s to early 90s, which I suspect came from a poor relationship with his mother + a bad experience dating women. The 70s had Rose of Versailles as a super-mainstream series, so manga/anime hardly ever pandered to conservative Japanese attitudes overall & Tomino was kind of an odd one out. Even then I'd say his work from that era is about as humanistic as stuff made by a guy with weird incely hangups could possibly get & it makes sense he calmed down after getting a wife & having a daughter.
Second I think 0079's character designs are fantastic compared to most anime of any era (IMO especially now). I still love the animation & feel they did an amazing job with what they had & tried really revolutionary stuff with the visuals, some scenes being amazing by any standard, BUT there's definitely goofy stuff too and it was clearly held back by shitty schedules, work conditions (IIRC it was FREEZING in there) and low budget. The character designs though are just timeless, they don't really represent any generic 70s trends & still just feel like Yasuhiko-style. The mechs still exist in their own fascinating world, a transition period between 70s & 80s style robots, which is why I think people still collect toys of them to this day.
Third, I think actually watching the movies shows just how important the seemingly pointless stuff in the TV show really was. The mundane shit the White Base crew went through every day did a lot to put you into their shoes & a lot of seemingly "filler" episodes are full of important characterization & themes (like the bomb removal ep, the one single episode Tomino was directly credited as writing... though I'm sure ghost-wrote a bunch)
What's wrong the way he writes women? I think is much better than many action manga in the Shonen demographic.
@@Mike-xh2vm I changed my mind lol. it's good
@@RaymondoPerson good to know, gotta say, sometimes Tomino writes the characters weird, but that's for everyone, both male and female, sometimes they act insane XD.
What exactly is wrong about the way women are depicted in 79? Maybe you shouldn't self inset so much.
Nothing, they are fine, this guy have woke vibes...
Mysterious mexican sounding guy, thank you for sharing your admiration for the Light within the Human Heart 🤖
it matters less than garbage
Can you pronounce the word "Machine" Properly? You are saying "Matsiin" which is wrong. We all know the story OK? We know it better than you.
@@enriqueornelasperez4673 I am Spanish. But I can pronounce "Machine."
@@enriqueornelasperez4673 I agree. He does need to improve his English pronunciation.
That is not the only annoying thing about our dear youtuber.
He keeps pronouncing the word "Titans" as "Tee-tans".
I messaged him that the correct pronunciation is "Tay-tans."
He reasoned out that "Tee-tans" is how the Japanese pronounce Titans so he is correct.
Well....the Japanese also pronounce "Gundam" as "Gun-dah-mu."
I don't hear Absa say "Gun-dah-mu", I hear him say "Gundam."
If he cannot learn to pronounce a word correctly according to the International Vernacular, he will continue to sound stupid.
@@enriqueornelasperez4673
Estoy de acuerdo. Necesita mejorar su pronunciación en inglés.
Eso no es lo único molesto de nuestro querido youtuber.
Sigue pronunciando la palabra "Titans" como "Tee-tans".
Le envié un mensaje diciendo que la pronunciación correcta es "Tay-tans".
Razonó que "Tee-tans" es como los japoneses pronuncian Titans, por lo que está en lo correcto.
Bueno... los japoneses también pronuncian "Gundam" como "Gun-dah-mu".
No escucho a Absa decir "Gun-dah-mu", lo escucho decir "Gundam".
Si no puede aprender a pronunciar una palabra correctamente de acuerdo con la lengua vernácula internacional, seguirá sonando estúpido.
@@enriqueornelasperez4673 Estoy completamente de acuerdo contigo.
@@enriqueornelasperez4673 Ha ha ha! I still have my old Ranma CDs.
It was one of my first animes before I was totally blown by Mecha anime.