2 8jtd addendum
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- čas přidán 27. 07. 2024
- A brief addendum vid to further explain the fixing for the tensioner pulley/lower cover. This was on a 2.8 JTD engine but is essentially the same as the older 2.5 and the not so much older 2.8 IDTD engines. Sorry the camera work is a bit shaky but it was filmed using my phone because I forgot to take the camcorder to work.
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This was very helpful thanks Dave. I did my 2.5 '94 a few months ago, and we just did my Son's 2.8jtd today.
Great, it took me a lot to get this information... I'm assembling a 2.8 master and this part of the tensioner was disassembled, all the videos show the synchronization but not these details, thanks from Cordoba, Argentina
thanks dave just cleared up a prob i had with a timing belt i had to do when refitted bcould not get tensioner to move then found tensioner sleeve siezed and wrong bolt fitted cheers
I'm about to do this job on a 2001 2.8HDi and that was fantastically useful info, esp the notch on the cam cover and the importance of checking/unseizing the tensioner arm (I had not thought of that). So THANK YOU for taking the time to do this video.
That was some good information thanks😊
Excelente explicacion sobre como colocar la tapa. THANKSSS🙌🙌🙌😁
That's it Dave,that's exactly what I did wrong with the tensioner washer.thank you.also the tensioner and idle pulleys look like your 2.8.slightly smaller than the 2.5.it ran fine with that though.
The 2.5 usually has same sized idler and tensioner pulleys, I've only ever seen the 2.8 JTD lump to have the dissimilar sized pulleys. Glad you found it helpful bud and I hope you can get yours fixed and running properly after all this hassle .
@@davesshed1488 the ones I was supplied.were the same size as each other.but smaller than the originals.i didn't realise till we got to the town where it was parked.so I just ran with what I had.as sourcing parts for the old Ducatos is a bit of a nightmare.
Thanks For your explanations
Bravo
Good video 😊
Thank you.
Great info in the 2.5 I have a Renault 2.5 Sofim and my cam belt is 152 and pullys slightly bigger than other ,just to be sure does the larger one go on top and smaller at the tensioner,also how do you replace the barrel tensioner that's lodged in water pump housing I think maybe mine ain't working right cheers
The bigger pulley is the idler at the top, smaller one is the tensioner. To replace the spring plunger, once you've removed the tensioner pulley you need to compress the spring with a lever to remove the keeper then you can pull it out, it may well be stuck in place with age so a good dose of WD 40 and twist it while tapping it should shift it.
Hi Dave ,I've got the second cambelt on new tensioner and tensioner carrier(upgraded model a s original carrier has superceded)and new idler.got it running.the cam belt walked abit causing about 1mm hanging over fuel pump.i reset the cambelt making sure cambelt was as far back as possible.ran it again but walked back to same position. Keeped it running with abit of revs.cambelt stayed in that position.It looks like that's where it wants to run.the fuel pump sits slightly back from all the other pulleys.But seems to run even with the rest.What do you reckon Dave?
Sounds ok to me, the crank pulley should stop it walking off completely. I'd say it's just found its own position. Just make sure you've got the washers the right way round this time. Happy motoring😀
@@davesshed1488 thank you Dave.yes made sure washers are the right way🤣Thank you again,I dont know what I would do without you help.
after replacing timing belt on ducato 2.8 jtd oil light goes out slowly
Hi, I've just done 1 of these in work and there was no inner stepped washer,the order of everything else was fine, would this be a problem?
Potentially yes, the inner stepped washer helps to locate the timing belt cover and without it the cover may be too close to the belt and could rub on the belt.
Hi , great video 👍 can you tell me which way round the large and small pulleys go ie which is idler pulley and which is tensioner pulley
The smaller pulley is the idler from memory, did I not mention it in the video?
@@davesshed1488 thanks , you did mention the difference in sizes but don’t think which went were
I have just one more question related to the 2.8jtd I saw the plastic lower cover yesterday as it was taken off and it shows the same deformation as shown on your video. Mine has got air con as well does the bottom pulley that is bolted to the crank have a washer or spacer on the back of the pulley because when this was taken off there wasn't one that I could see.
Cheers Paul
The bottom pulley does often have a thin washer behind it but not always, I haven't as yet managed to work out why some do and some don't.
@Dave's Shed Hi, thanks for replying. I am clutching at straws really, but it would keep the bottom pulley another 0.5mm away from the cam case and maybe better pulley alignment.
Hi Dave I have a leaky injector on my 2.5.
I was looking to pull out seal at base of injector hole.but I'm not sure if I can see it.im wondering if the 2.5 has this set up?it doesn't show much in the manual.
Unfortunately I've never had the injectors out of one of these engines although I would have expected to see a flame washer in the bottom of the injector hole.. I'll see if I can find anything out for you over the next couple of days.
@@davesshed1488 thank you Dave🙂
Hi Dave
The Motorhome was in the garage for 4.5 months before I got it back. They had to rebuild the head as valves were bent and also the camshaft. Have done about 200 miles in it and the same thing has happened today without any warning looks like cam-belt has come loose and done the same again so recovered back to the garage. I know it’s a long shot but have you any idea what would cause this? Thanks Paul
If they got the washers the wrong way round on the tensioner stud it might cause it but without seeing it first hand it's impossible to say.
@@davesshed1488 ok thank you for taking time to reply I appreciate it Paul
Hi
Did you do a video on replacing the cam belt on a 2.8 jtd engine.
Hi Lindsay, not specifically but the procedure is almost exactly the same as the 2.5, the differences are covered in this video "2.8 jtd addendum".
Hi
I had a cambelt replaced on my 2006 2.8jtd 400miles ago and on Friday I broke down on the Motorway as the alternator belt has been rubbing on the lower plastic housing which has worn a big part of it away and has shredded the belt which has found it’s way into the cambelt and wrapped around the bottom camshaft pulley. Looks like the belt has jumped. Could you give me any idea why this would have happened? Currently in a garage waiting repairs.
Without seeing the vehicle it's difficult to say accurately but from your description it sounds like the alternator belt was fitted wrongly.
@@davesshed1488 hi
Thank you for taking time to reply I appreciate it. The air con belt was still intact. Do you think the belt was put on the pulley to far over or is there any other reason this belt could have crept across. This is on a Fiat ducato Rapido motorhome which I bought from a dealer but had no idea when the cambelt had been replaced so I thought I better get it done to stop any future problems then this happens. Of course the garage are not taking responsibility.
@@TheQuadman200 it's impossible for me to say without seeing it.
@@davesshed1488 ok cheers it’s being looked at on Thursday so hopefully I will understand what the repair will be. The AA man took the bottom cover off to view an then saw shredded belt so he took the bottom pulley off this is when you can see bits of belt in the bottom cam pulley.
Once again tank you for taking time to reply
Your Timing cover washer position is wrong. I did that and come very close to auxiliary belt.
You are mistaken my friend, the way I describe it is the correct way to fit the washers on the tensioner pulley. If your cover is too close to the aux belt then either the cover is distorted from being fitted wrongly or there is an issue with your aux belt.
Hi Dave,me again.i have another question regarding the Ducato.
What would likely be the problem,when I change down to 2and gear It scraunches. Is this most likely be the synchro or the clutch?.the clutch pedal is quite high compared to the brake pedal.you thoughts would be most appreciated. Also the 4th synchro was apparently done by a garage 2 years ago and the clutch according to the receipt.anx about 6000 miles.
hi Des, if all other gears select ok with no crunching then its most likely the 2nd gear synchro failing. Try double declutching on downshifts into 2nd, that should help.
@@davesshed1488 how long will it last like that?,I just put up with it .And what do you think about the clutch pedal being too high.is that a sign of worn clutch?thanks Dave
@@tucka1234 it will last as long as it lasts, I'm sorry to say fiat gearboxes of this generation were made almost entirely by cadburys, synchro failure was quite common. As for the clutch pedal you can adjust that on the cable at gearbox end, just need to make sure the clutch clears fully.
@@davesshed1488 Haha,Fair enough Dave,I tried adjusting cable as per the workshop manual (which is in German funny enough)It was recommended 150mm pedal travel from the bottom to the top.i tried this but could not select any gears so I put it back how it was.
Hi again Dave.because the 5th gear relies on oil splashing,do you know what the ideal speed to change into 5th is?
you filming with Nokia 3310
Was that meant to be funny? If so you failed.