Standardized Testing: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

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  • American students face a ridiculous amount of testing. John Oliver explains how standardized tests impact school funding, the achievement gap, how often kids are expected to throw up.
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  • @ChainReactionsProductions
    @ChainReactionsProductions Před 4 lety +4495

    The whole “don’t discuss the contents of your test” thing is probably the least followed school rule, second only to the dress code

    • @mosskin2016
      @mosskin2016 Před 4 lety +74

      Except for girls

    • @andrewmelnikov292
      @andrewmelnikov292 Před 4 lety +144

      What's worse, truly secure system is based on transparency and reliability, not on hiding things.
      Security through obscurity, as far as I know, works only for state secrets, not for automated tests.

    • @KamenRiderHellhound
      @KamenRiderHellhound Před 4 lety +35

      Also not legally binding.

    • @ezekielmartin4323
      @ezekielmartin4323 Před 4 lety +167

      Every single year, the second the ACT is over, the internet is flooded with memes about the shit on the ACT. Like clockwork. It's fantastic.

    • @86_percent28
      @86_percent28 Před 4 lety +17

      Ezekiel Martin I just took the ACT and my brain is fried

  • @noebadabing
    @noebadabing Před 7 lety +1349

    Why the fuck is everything ruled by private companies in the usa...

    • @emiliaholappa7864
      @emiliaholappa7864 Před 7 lety +124

      C'est d'la bonne Capitalism :)

    • @alexandervandesande3840
      @alexandervandesande3840 Před 7 lety +46

      Wooly Draws C'est du bon Capitalisme*. Should've taken the tests.

    • @BlackDevilsCat
      @BlackDevilsCat Před 7 lety +4

      Alexander Van de Sande it's capatalism. there's no 'e'

    • @noebadabing
      @noebadabing Před 7 lety +30

      Jack LaPiano It was a joke cause I speak french, and we spell capitalism with an e.

    • @BlackDevilsCat
      @BlackDevilsCat Před 7 lety +2

      C'est d'la bonne oh ok I get it then. I guess that explains your name.

  • @susieboo22
    @susieboo22 Před 4 lety +1452

    I will never forget sitting in AP Literature, preparing for the AP exam - something my teacher resented the hell out of, since it meant she had to press pause on teaching us the books she'd selected and had a full lesson plan for that she enjoyed doing, and instead get us ready to pass a stupid standardized test that she openly admitted didn't really indicate how well we understood the readings. One of the practice tests we did had a few multiple choice questions centered around a poem, and one of the questions was about the main "theme" of the poem. The entire - and I mean, the ENTIRE - class picked "B" or "C" but, no, according to the answer key, it was "D."
    Cue a 30-minute long classwide argument about the theme in this poem, during which nearly everyone spoke up with their interpretations - most of which my teacher agreed were well thought-out and easily backed up by the text, and, if it were up to her, she'd mark them correct. But the good people at the AP Exam factory (or wherever these things are crafted) had declared that their interpretation of the poem was the only correct one - so our teacher was left to try and help us figure out what THEY wanted us to pick, not actually analyze or contemplate the work and reach our own conclusions.
    I'm pretty sure everyone in that class did pass the exam - standardized text taking is a garbage skill, but a skill nonetheless, and twelve years is a long time to get good at it. But we were all very burnt out, and very resentful of the whole thing... and completely convinced the brass didn't actually care if we learned anything at all.

    • @Mica_T
      @Mica_T Před 4 lety +123

      The fact that themes in stories is summarised into multiple choice answers says a lot about the state of the test. I'm not from the US, and when it comes to literature, the text, characters and themes are discussed in essays with evidence and justification to prove your point, allowing for freedom of thought and subjectivity which is essentially what humanities is all about. These kind of tests are teaching the wrong skills 🤦‍♀️

    • @goreoproductions6955
      @goreoproductions6955 Před 4 lety +41

      At least your teacher taught you stuff that wasn’t just for the test. Our AP Lang teacher taught the WHOLE year just for the test.

    • @morganmartin5860
      @morganmartin5860 Před 4 lety +23

      This is so true. You can't test something as subjective as literature

    • @aldergodric4324
      @aldergodric4324 Před 4 lety +12

      Right, because as we all know, literature is totally not a lot about interpretation

    • @sebastianlavallee706
      @sebastianlavallee706 Před 3 lety +8

      @Jim Cornette So were the animals mostly annoyed, amused or hungry?

  • @trollskullkid69
    @trollskullkid69 Před 4 lety +829

    I took the test with the talking pineapple. I'll never forget the famous line "Moral: Pineapples Don't Have Sleeves."

    • @unarmedfrog2805
      @unarmedfrog2805 Před 4 lety +34

      I feel so bad for you.

    • @RenaissanceGrappling
      @RenaissanceGrappling Před 3 lety +29

      @@unarmedfrog2805 don’t feel bad for us. It’s like a bond us class of ‘16 kids have for the rest of our lives.

    • @Thatguyjack758
      @Thatguyjack758 Před 2 lety +6

      There was a reading portion on the ACT I took concerning rocks at the bottom of the ocean. Yes and cars go vroom vroom when there’s gas in the tank. Who gives a shit about rocks in the ocean.

    • @Kpimpmaster
      @Kpimpmaster Před 2 lety +5

      To quote a scene from Billy Madison “everyone who heard that answer is now dumber”

    • @apriljones1013
      @apriljones1013 Před rokem

      I remember that too hahaha!

  • @willh8682
    @willh8682 Před 7 lety +6472

    The problem with American education is that it's too grade oriented; all students care about is a passing grade because that's all the teachers stress to us. It's no longer about learning, it's about passing. I'm a senior in high school and I can honestly say that for me personally, after 8th grade, you don't even care about learning , you just wanna pass the damn class
    *update four years later*
    I’m graduating college in two weeks and I can honestly say that college is no different 💀. You’re more focused on passing than learning😩

    • @sciencepower608
      @sciencepower608 Před 7 lety +293

      Right,you can see the terror on my peers faces,some look like they are about to have a heart attack.

    • @markie4195
      @markie4195 Před 7 lety +336

      This is true.I'm a junior and honestly I've given up on learning.I just need to graduate.

    • @willh8682
      @willh8682 Před 7 lety +298

      And if you take advanced classes like AP or IB (like me), it's even worse. The amount of apathy is unreal

    • @pierrespoutnik
      @pierrespoutnik Před 7 lety +46

      I agree, I'm a junior (just started IB) and I've got to get at least a 40. No learning required though

    • @POSIboys5
      @POSIboys5 Před 7 lety +40

      IB exams in november *cries*

  • @RedHairedRiot
    @RedHairedRiot Před 8 lety +1668

    The minute they start handing out books on trying to win a standardized test by working with the way the test is created and graded: How to Fake Your Way Through the SATs, Recognize the Scoring Pattern, (and/or) If You Don't Know, the Answer is C...
    The moment when we realized we didn't know real information anymore, we had to conform ourselves to thinking like the creator of the test,
    Thats when we should have realized something was wrong.

    • @unoiamacutie
      @unoiamacutie Před 8 lety +64

      +RedHairedRiot Anytime I took these tests, I always told myself "when in doubt, pick C." C seems to be the correct answer most of the time.

    • @fir3fly360
      @fir3fly360 Před 8 lety +48

      +RedHairedRiot we are basically learning a factory style method. (im bout probably botch this but bear with me) we are not learning the material we are learning how to follow directions, which is only good if you want to stay as teammate status at McDonald. like seriously, i learned a shit load my highschool years, and i still don't remember anything.

    • @UltraGalaxyify
      @UltraGalaxyify Před 8 lety +24

      +Le Kazibam Unfortunately, you are not far off the mark. All schools and some colleges want to do is regurgitate the text for you, and expect you to do the same. You think I remember anything from my freshman, soppomore, junior, or senior years of high school, other than the fact that I was always one of the nerds and had to fight my way to survival? No, because what they taught us half the time was utter shit!

    • @fir3fly360
      @fir3fly360 Před 8 lety +19

      +UltraGalaxyify and they always cling onto the excuse of "you'll need this for the job you want" in want time day or place do i need to learn the quadratic formula or the pythagorean theorum if im studying to be an art major. and what truly sucks is how they talk about those that dropped were uneducated and will never amount to anything, yet we can clearly see who's living their dream while the other is doing a job.

    • @UltraGalaxyify
      @UltraGalaxyify Před 8 lety +22

      +Le Kazibam Oh yeah, that old chestnut: "If you want to succeed in your future career(never mind the fact you'll probably have no idea what you want your career to be), you have to learn basic useless crap that you had no idea existed. And if you don't, you'll end up as a drop out and won't get into a good college, just like Bill Gates, Patrick Stewart and Dan Aykroyd." Hell, I have a history teacher right now in college who is probably one of the smartest people I know, because he gives us sage advice like "If you're able to, get out of college and make money." I'm serious, that's what he said

  • @kolinmartz
    @kolinmartz Před 4 lety +1476

    I remember me and my friends would do the teachers we liked a solid and fail the benchmark test at the beginning of the semester then get high 500s to a 600 (it’s a 600 scale. Don’t ask me why) on the test at the end of the semester. Actually it was one of the things my student body all agreed upon and it was one of the things I advocated for when I was in student government. Win win for everyone. No stress for the students at the beginning of the year, teachers looked better on paper and our school received more grants and funding because the state only looked at growth.

    • @guntergrauberger9195
      @guntergrauberger9195 Před 4 lety +205

      You is smart. You is good. Have like

    • @richardsanchez9190
      @richardsanchez9190 Před 4 lety +121

      You son of a bitch. That's smart.

    • @imaanahmed4965
      @imaanahmed4965 Před 4 lety +98

      You clever duck oh my god. That is literally genius oh my god

    • @raptorcharly8055
      @raptorcharly8055 Před 4 lety +119

      Outstanding move.
      In all seriousness, that is brilliant. I remember being criticized as I'd not grown much between the two tests, even though my scores were - not to brag - very high on both beginning and end tests. I wish I'd thought of what you had.

    • @kolinmartz
      @kolinmartz Před 4 lety +50

      Yeah. Like I get the merits of a standardised test but I do not agree with all the detriments that it currently has. It’s lazy to simply look at growth without factoring in the starting point. And if you get above a certain amount, negative growth shouldn’t matter as long as you’re still way above passing. Like going from a 97 to a 95 (on a 100 scale) isn’t that bad. But on paper it’s still a 2% negative growth. But it’s way too complicated to use logarithmic or proportional scales to measure progress. Even having a bracketed proportional scales can be problematic because that bracket will still be arbitrarily set. I think standardised tests are great but give the power back to teachers. Don’t take them out of the loop under the pretext of anti cheating secrecy.

  • @gluestickgenius2644
    @gluestickgenius2644 Před 4 lety +260

    I remember taking the PISA test in Germany. Our teacher said something like: "Here is some test as part of a study. But it does not affect your grades. So ... do what you want." Most people left without finishing the test.

    • @imaanahmed4965
      @imaanahmed4965 Před 4 lety +17

      Bro what??? Dang man I can't walk out of an SOL (a standardized test) or final exam without my grade being at stake. if you pass the SOL your exempt from the final exam for that class, but if the class has no SOL, then you need a 90 or something to be exempt from the exam. 90!! The expectations are absurd. It's ride or die, literally. But if you ride and fail you're screwed over with more tests to try to raise your grade. And if you straight up don't take the tests it just looks bad on your record and bad for colleges if you plan to go. Dang, it'd be amazing to do that here man..

    • @giovannieich7487
      @giovannieich7487 Před 3 lety +14

      I‘ve had similar experiences, but I think it‘s noteworthy to mention that the PISA test and US Standardized Testing are two very different concepts, seeing as the PISA test doesn’t have any direct influences on students or teachers, mainly because PISA is designed to compare different countries‘ quality of education and not how educated an individual student is. Additionally, PISA is not very good at achieving what it set out to do, because whereas some countries (like Germany) collect all test results from across the country, others (like China) refuse to publish any results outside of the Shanghai metropolitan area, arguably the richest and best developed in the entire country. This leads to China, a country where only 17% percent of the population has attained tertiary education (compared to 54% in Russia or 44% in the US) repeatedly being cited as the country with the best education worldwide. This is why most students and teachers in Germany don’t really care about it anymore.

    • @overgrownkudzu
      @overgrownkudzu Před 3 lety +2

      wir mussten bis zum ende da bleiben, aber ob man sich dabei wirklich muehe gab, wage ich mal zu bezweifeln

    • @giovannieich7487
      @giovannieich7487 Před 3 lety +4

      @@overgrownkudzu Ja gut, das kommt ja letztendlich aufs Selbe raus...

    • @johannaisolde
      @johannaisolde Před 3 lety +1

      wann macht man normaler weise PISA???? Ich hatte irgendwie nie die möglichkeit

  • @jaridkeen123
    @jaridkeen123 Před 8 lety +499

    I FUCKING FAILED THAT TEST BC OF THAT FUCKING PINEAPPLE!

    • @namingisdifficult408
      @namingisdifficult408 Před 8 lety +15

      I bet Daniel Pinkwater, the author of that atrocity, is an alias or pseudonym because no one should want to be associated with such a horrendous piece of fiction.

    • @Pile_of_carbon
      @Pile_of_carbon Před 8 lety +19

      I feel for you man. It wouldn't surprise me if Pearson got a basket of pineapples laced with strychnine after that one.

    • @tejkavan
      @tejkavan Před 8 lety

      I wish that one went to the ceo. i fucking hate pearson

    • @taradrake1085
      @taradrake1085 Před 7 lety

      same, fuck standardized tests

    • @lazerd3662
      @lazerd3662 Před 7 lety +7

      Standardized tests can suck metaphorical dicks and die. Schools should use the time they spend preping for standardized tests on practical skills like balancing a check book or doing taxes.

  • @MarkArandjus
    @MarkArandjus Před 9 lety +1732

    Okay is there any aspect of life in america that has not been completely fucked over by corporations trying to maximize profit?

    • @Gonzaga78
      @Gonzaga78 Před 9 lety +76

      Mark Arandjus that's capitalism...

    • @kylexile87
      @kylexile87 Před 9 lety +39

      Mark Arandjus This was the government getting involved and helping these corporations profit. The issue is the government.

    • @EccentricSM
      @EccentricSM Před 9 lety +27

      Headphoner Tell that to the Chinese

    • @alexgaudette988
      @alexgaudette988 Před 9 lety +48

      Mark Arandjus Any market with legitimate and fierce competition is usually pretty good. Unfortunately, the bigger companies typically just buy up all the smaller companies and everyone seems to have forgotten about our anti-trust laws.

    • @MarkArandjus
      @MarkArandjus Před 9 lety +15

      ***** I find your lack of faith disturbing. I'm not just quoting Star Wars, I genuinely am disturbed some people truly believe this.

  • @rasaagresti1268
    @rasaagresti1268 Před 3 lety +175

    Legend says if you say “ no child left behind” three times in a mirror a student will vomit.

    • @user-cr6qv1bn2u
      @user-cr6qv1bn2u Před 2 měsíci

      No that's No Tolerance policy. America's best policy since Trickle down economics.

  • @justajumpingypsygirl
    @justajumpingypsygirl Před 4 lety +180

    I took a Pearson test in High school. There was a typo where it said my first name was printed "Lucky" on the booklet instead of Lucy. Got a 97 percentile in it....

  • @ybra
    @ybra Před 9 lety +347

    Wait... A privately owned company is used to make and score the test? Seriously, what?
    If there is to be a standardized test, isn't that the job of the department of education or something like that? Or did they just put it out to the lowest bidder?

    • @OmegaGamer04
      @OmegaGamer04 Před 9 lety +104

      Welcome to government spending. Where the contractors are priced low and the bribes are high

    • @jktrololo35
      @jktrololo35 Před 9 lety +1

      OmegaGamer04 That really does suck.

    • @WordsofIvory
      @WordsofIvory Před 9 lety +44

      Practically everything in America is run by a privately owned company now, because the government has absolutely no clue what they're doing. There a thousands of different people in office with absolutely no clue what to do with the country, so they just get someone else to do the job.... so now most of the country is run by businesses.
      Nobody is elected anymore based on their actual abilities. It's based entirely on who can convince to vote for them.

    • @connorx447
      @connorx447 Před 9 lety

      ybra This is why people move out of America, to countries that don't have oil.

    • @DennisVlaanderen
      @DennisVlaanderen Před 9 lety +10

      ybra It's the same in The Netherlands, there's one company called CITO which handles all the tests from primary to middle school. But it has to create the tests following a standardized set of knowledge quota for each level of education thoughout primary and middle schools.
      Then there's also a very strict peer review from the examinators, the teacher as well as the students which can file complaints about tests, and if they are indeed valid complaints the test scoring will be adjusted by a modifier giving all the students an x1.2 score modifier.
      This system has been in place for decades now and there have been very little complaints against this system so far as it does what it's supposed to do and gives everybody a fair and equal chance.

  • @21jayface
    @21jayface Před 8 lety +551

    The Mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell. Thanks school, now how do i get this thing called a job without having to lie through my teeth about how i'm great at teamwork, a great communicator and that I'm confident?

    • @jojochen3360
      @jojochen3360 Před 8 lety +16

      +JasonP16 I wouldn't stress out too much. In my opinion your (future) colleagues that interview you and even the (future) bosses realise that these are buzzwords.
      I don't want to have a bunch of always communicating, overconfident teamworkers. That would be hell! Chatting all the time how great they are... it would be horrible to work with them! And they wouldn't get anything done.
      Honesty, modesty, an ability to share successes and technical expertise are qualities I'd be looking for.

    • @21jayface
      @21jayface Před 8 lety +1

      Sounds good, i'll give it a try.

    • @tenichebrown4546
      @tenichebrown4546 Před 8 lety

      +Jojo Chen t! htfftxy.y
      passage in all dsp

    • @karsaurlong
      @karsaurlong Před 8 lety +2

      +JasonP16 And that there is the problem with our education. YOU'RE NOT JUST LEARNING THINGS, YOU'RE LEARNING HOW TO LEARN.

    • @matthewbennett7435
      @matthewbennett7435 Před 8 lety +19

      +JasonP16 Or balance this thing called a checkbook, or file my taxes, use basic tools, maintain a car, or communicate with a fellow human being.

  • @FuugaNatsu
    @FuugaNatsu Před 4 lety +55

    Here's a Pearson thing I had to deal with just a few weeks ago; testing for disturbed sensory perception. I'm autistic, and recently had a specialised therapist assigned to basically help me figure out both a way to make my daily life more easy to handle, and how likely I am to get a higher education and hold a full time job given my specific challenges. As part of that she suggested we find out if there are signs of a disturbed sensory perception, which is when I ran into this standardised Pearson test.
    How the test roughly works is that you get about 3 pages worth of questions in regards to your recent reactions to various sensory stimuli (to be answered taking basis in the last couple of months or so), you mark how often you react to it, and once you've filled it all out you give it back to the specialist, who then uses your answers to make a diagram that's supposed to show the likelihood of you having any disturbances, and which senses are affected. However, a good chunk of the questions are... how do I put this diplomatically... fucking vague to such a degree that they're borderline pointless. When I showed a few of my friends the test their reaction was roughly the same as mine, namely that going *just* by the wording of the questions, a large majority of everyone they know exhibit signs of a disturbed sensory perception.
    To give just a few examples that illustrate my point, one question was if I found "too much noise" disturbing, to which my immediate reaction was that OF COURSE I FUCKING DO, if it didn't disturb me it wouldn't be *TOO MUCH* noise. Another was how often I found myself avoiding bad smells, which would of course be literally every time possible when I notice a smell I dislike, just like everybody else I know. I can't think of a single person I've ever met who wouldn't avoid any bad smells whenever that's an option. Then there were a few that honestly seem like they'd be just as likely to have to do with personality, like if I found people hugging me uncomfortable. Or personal taste, like if I use a lot of seasoning on my food, or if I avoid eating anything spicy. Or if I tend to wear bright colourful outfits.

  • @ranjanbiswas3233
    @ranjanbiswas3233 Před 4 lety +52

    10:11 Her cry literally broke my heart, I thought I can't cry.

    • @aet5807
      @aet5807 Před 2 lety +4

      Agreed. Yeah, kick a girl who works hard, loves school, and wants to do well out of a class.

  • @DrewDPoole
    @DrewDPoole Před 9 lety +843

    Welcome to America where we have unquestioned monopolies on EDUCATION.

    • @hornchief4839
      @hornchief4839 Před 9 lety +5

      Drew Poole YAY, PEARSON! YAY, SCHOLASTIC! >.>

    • @The__Creeper
      @The__Creeper Před 9 lety +4

      Drew Poole Right, because America is the only one that does anything shitty with education.

    • @RoyalflushHD
      @RoyalflushHD Před 9 lety +75

      The Creeper Its the worst country for lower education in the western world. Although you have some of the best universities in the world your middle/high school system is pretty bad.

    • @The__Creeper
      @The__Creeper Před 9 lety +4

      CrispyHD Bitch please. I've never seen any country with a good system of schooling outside of the university level.
      The difference is that universities are more tailored to you as an individual. They also cut out a lot of the bullshit. Going by the university style of schooling, you'd be done with high school (and that would include calculus and physics) at 12 years old.

    • @FearDeniesFate
      @FearDeniesFate Před 9 lety +27

      The Creeper Check Denmark then? I'm confident also Germany, Norway and Sweden have a good schooling system although I could be wrong.

  • @BEEEELEEEE
    @BEEEELEEEE Před 8 lety +2617

    Woah, woah, woah, I CAN OPT OUT???

    • @zoe5766
      @zoe5766 Před 8 lety +228

      RIGHT?!

    • @Monkey14891
      @Monkey14891 Před 8 lety +55

      I mean, some colleges do look at test scores.

    • @davebets5294
      @davebets5294 Před 8 lety +54

      If you take the PARCC this year they say only a small percentage of kids can opt out, unlike last year but everyone's still going to opt out

    • @jessicalindly2118
      @jessicalindly2118 Před 8 lety +21

      +R.J. Beasley If the test is pretty new, probably. Like the SBAC you can opt out of, and I think there aren't many consequences since I don't believe colleges look at that test anymore.

    • @calvincramer3309
      @calvincramer3309 Před 8 lety +7

      +R.J. Beasley The smarter balance test for juniors that year was just a trial for the juniors for the next year, so you could opt out

  • @d-rgk2477
    @d-rgk2477 Před 4 lety +319

    We used to call our state’s MCAS standardized test the Massachusetts Child Abuse System.
    We were eight. We still call it that actually.

    • @minimoon2374
      @minimoon2374 Před 4 lety +14

      That’s clever. Also. Nice profile picture. >_>

    • @d-rgk2477
      @d-rgk2477 Před 4 lety +10

      MiniMoon23 Momento Mori.

    • @gothicwebby2097
      @gothicwebby2097 Před 3 lety +6

      As someone who takes the MCAS every year I can confirm it’s like this.

    • @EndlessSummer888
      @EndlessSummer888 Před 3 lety +16

      I'm Canadian, in Ontario. We have standardized tests called EQAO. As kids, we said it was Evil Questions Attacking Ontario. And the only reason I know what it _really_ means is because I'm in uni to become a teacher (thankfully, there's no standard EQAO tests for the subject I'll be teaching, to the best of my knowledge. Only math and reading, in Gr 3 and 6. Then just math in Gr 9, and Literacy Test in Gr 10).

    • @_daturaa
      @_daturaa Před 3 lety +11

      I used to call maths Mental Abuse To Happy Students (also memento mori)

  • @ciaraoreilly3844
    @ciaraoreilly3844 Před 3 lety +57

    During tests we were told “think like a test maker not a test taker”

  • @boyinaband
    @boyinaband Před 9 lety +1299

    Also, there are huge amounts of scientific evidence that adding direct financial incentive to a task requiring as much creativity as teaching is massively detrimental in terms of achieving results.
    You would think ONE person developing the system which teaches people science would be frickin' scientifically literate. Awesome episode.

    • @neeneko
      @neeneko Před 9 lety +49

      Boyinaband The evidence gets even worse for situations like this where financial incentives are linked to things largely outside the individual's control.

    • @bradleyhollingsworth4691
      @bradleyhollingsworth4691 Před 9 lety +16

      Boyinaband Hi Dave!

    • @shaneglasser5162
      @shaneglasser5162 Před 9 lety +27

      I would tell everyone here about how messed up these tests are in full detail, but if I did so I would get a detention or even a suspension for just telling how bad these tests are.

    • @YekouriGaming
      @YekouriGaming Před 9 lety +28

      Boyinaband Also, judging everything by tests are only in favour of the persons who are good in tests.
      A lot of people are like the girl, who is good at the subject but bad at taking tests, where the importance of the tests also takes part, since people get nervous and perform worse than they would otherwise.
      Some people are 1 hit wonders in tests, while other people are perfoming good in a longer period of time and failing the tests.
      Standardardized tests that counts for everything, even the teachers wage is really really bad

    • @Cheezy27
      @Cheezy27 Před 9 lety

      Boyinaband Schools will be around forever and they will be just as shit as they are today and as they were a decade ago, deal with it.

  • @kaemart3465
    @kaemart3465 Před 5 lety +1892

    Pineapples don't have sleeves is still a running joke with my class

    • @itsikabitch9005
      @itsikabitch9005 Před 4 lety +97

      My class was scarred by an essay about a camel that we collectively failed so the state of Florida lowered the pass requirement and still let 27% of students fail 😂

    • @michelleantici6651
      @michelleantici6651 Před 4 lety +23

      Our school didn’t even have that test, but I brought it up and now it’s a running joke in my friend group.

    • @Bloodlyshiva
      @Bloodlyshiva Před 3 lety +10

      To be fair, that's a wonderful line. Terrible for the test, but a wonderful line.

    • @nore7729
      @nore7729 Před 3 lety +10

      So as a non American - care to let the rest of us in on the jokes ?
      Edit: made it to the end of the video ... omg this is just sad

    • @0Clewi0
      @0Clewi0 Před 3 lety +4

      At least in my version of the SATs the ridiculous question of what "Be carefull with the mexicans" meant made sense to be hard to understand as it was the dialogue of two artists.

  • @radiofuel2733
    @radiofuel2733 Před 4 lety +70

    When my dad saw this episode, he was questioning me over how bad the tests were. I had to break it to him that everything John brought up is true. Kids in my class would be sweating and crying before tests, and during finals, throwing up was as normal as the sunrise. There were times when I would be in a bathroom stall just so I could cry, and another student would go into another stall and start sobbing as well. If your system causes people to break down into tears and get sick, then you should feel ashamed of yourself.

  • @rainbowdragon2878
    @rainbowdragon2878 Před 4 lety +591

    It’s 2020 now, school feels more like a prison than anything. I can’t even tell you how many times I’ve thought of suicide as an alternative to going to school. I’ve told everyone that I just need to survive, I don’t care about straight A’s, I just need to survive long enough to get out of this hell hole, even if it means getting C’s and D’s.

    • @foundhorrificgames.2505
      @foundhorrificgames.2505 Před 4 lety +2

      Rainbowdragon 287 lol wow how old are you?

    • @onemillionpercent
      @onemillionpercent Před 4 lety +72

      @@foundhorrificgames.2505 probably high school, because many high schoolers (including myself, a straight A, once in a while a B in an AP, student) can relate.

    • @stimlord
      @stimlord Před 4 lety +107

      Found Horrific Games Did you really just reply “lol wow” to someone saying their schooling made them feel suicidal? Damn, man. That’s sick.

    • @A_T216
      @A_T216 Před 4 lety +60

      I hope you're safe. School isn't forever. Things will get better. You will get through this. I hope you have supportive people in your life and that you are feeling hopeful for the post-school future. You deserve better than survival and you will get that one day soon. Please stay safe.

    • @A_T216
      @A_T216 Před 4 lety +32

      @@RetardGamingHDx of course suicidal ideation is serious??? It's really normal, unfortunately. I also struggle with it and a big part of why is school; my anxiety and depression definitely exacerbate things. Even if I didn't have these issues, though, school would still be a brutal place to be. By the way, your tone is rather demeaning. No one needs that, especially not here, in a discussion of mental health and safety. Please edit if you didn't mean to come across that way.

  • @MauroTamm
    @MauroTamm Před 9 lety +1445

    If pineapple has three legs, how many colors does it take for him to reach moon on a boat, considering he was eating BBQ three days later on the pluto?

    • @guesswho180
      @guesswho180 Před 9 lety +152

      None. Pineapples have 10 legs.

    • @argonunyacartel2631
      @argonunyacartel2631 Před 8 lety +200

      Mauro Tamm Orange, because motorcycles don't have doors.

    • @derciolichucha5864
      @derciolichucha5864 Před 8 lety +18

      Hahahaha Argo! That answer was killer!

    • @emiemivideos
      @emiemivideos Před 8 lety +14

      random does not equal funny- jacksfilms

    • @drgeorgej5562
      @drgeorgej5562 Před 8 lety +6

      +Argo Nunya Cartel wooooow I dont remember how long I laughed so much at youtube comment

  • @minefilms1122
    @minefilms1122 Před 8 lety +2426

    i wonder how much children secretly died inside while filming those terrible parodies

    • @namingisdifficult408
      @namingisdifficult408 Před 8 lety +167

      All of them died inside

    • @maxiejay9618
      @maxiejay9618 Před 8 lety +162

      I even died inside

    • @patrickharrison6293
      @patrickharrison6293 Před 8 lety +52

      +Kenzie Jefferson I just died. Literally. I'm a ghost right now.

    • @skyewright2587
      @skyewright2587 Před 8 lety +14

      Like I was already pretty dead inside but yo that just just stove the headstone into the ground

    • @TheAnimefreak2001
      @TheAnimefreak2001 Před 8 lety +35

      My old school did things like this and it was cringeworthy and irritating. Everyone involved died inside.

  • @huhhwuhh
    @huhhwuhh Před rokem +15

    the worst part about standardized testing was the time block. every test was dedicated an entire day, including a 4-5 hour time block, a requirement to bring one’s own lunch, and a requirement that each student stay at their desk until the block is over (no matter if they finish their test in 1 or 3 hours). i knew kids who would hold on to their test hours after finishing just so that they could have paper to draw on for entertainment.

    • @martalaatsch8358
      @martalaatsch8358 Před 2 měsíci

      Oh my goodness, yes! I was a gifted student and, apparently, ADHD. That was literally painful.

  • @ianlawrence1576
    @ianlawrence1576 Před 3 lety +45

    This makes all the sense in the world. In my first semester of college, there was a class called Quantitative Reasoning. The homework assignments and tests were regulated by Pearson. I would sometimes find an easier way to do the problems, but for some reason they would be wrong. I would use their 30 minute long ass method which guided me through it, get the same damn answer, and just realize I wasted 30 minutes doing some thing I could’ve solved in five. I ended up failing that class, and while some of the blame is on myself, a vast part of it is on Pearson, for their horribly designated systems.

    • @leullakew9579
      @leullakew9579 Před rokem +2

      My Quantitative Studies class also used Pearson.

  • @jessuka
    @jessuka Před 7 lety +1480

    Literature tests need to be open-ended. I'm sick of there being only one possible interpretation of text, but I feel that unfortunately, this would be abused.

    • @jessuka
      @jessuka Před 7 lety +99

      +Nerdy Cat Exactly what I mean. Of course, there will be questions where there IS only one answer (based on context clues and whatnot), but for others, as long as your logic is justifiably correct then you shouldn't be penalized.

    • @ProfessorSyndicateFranklai
      @ProfessorSyndicateFranklai Před 7 lety +86

      Try writing the question and then grading them. We lost an entire section on our french exam because our teachers got lazy. Quote "It takes us 10 seconds to mark a page of multiple choice questions, but 10 minutes per page of writing."
      You're not the only one that hates reading literature.

    • @MrZerodayz
      @MrZerodayz Před 6 lety +46

      Well, over here in Germany, literature exams ARE technically open-ended, though some of the more incompetent teachers still just write "wrong" and give 0 points if it doesn't match what they think. still, i feel like this system IS better by a mile, because you aren't trained on thinking there's only one possible solution, but instead learn thinking for yourself about this kind of things

    • @medha6735
      @medha6735 Před 6 lety +9

      Jessica Nguyen Thank you! Even if it is multiple choice, let the student justify why they put what they did.

    • @hedgehog3180
      @hedgehog3180 Před 6 lety +58

      In Denmark you don't get two hours to complete a literature test, you get two days. You go to your school, draw a text and then you have two days to analyze it and write a synopsis of your analysis. Then you go back to the school and present your analysis to your teacher and censor, you have 10 minutes to do this, after which you spend another 10 minutes discussing the text where you basically have to defend your analysis. You're mainly scored based on how well you argued and how well you supported your arguments with evidence from the text. While most teachers will stress that there is a correct way to interpret a text they are also prepared to accept alternative interpretations if you can support them well enough.

  • @MrGreensweightHist
    @MrGreensweightHist Před 4 lety +1826

    "That question about the pineapple was stupid and absurd"
    The fact she realizes this tells me this girl deserves credit for her reading comprehension :)

    • @Kpimpmaster
      @Kpimpmaster Před 4 lety +45

      I try to figure it out...but I keep coming back to a scene from Billy Maddison were Billy tries to compare a kids story book to a question and was told everyone who heard was now dumber

    • @xelloskaczor5051
      @xelloskaczor5051 Před 4 lety +1

      In all fairness could be a fluke children call every test stupid and pointless.
      Couls be a fluke

    • @kebubas
      @kebubas Před 3 lety +39

      @@xelloskaczor5051 yes, but if it was a generalization, the kid would have said the whole test was stupid. The fact she points out a part of the test shows critical thinking, which is what we should encourage in children

    • @JoeCnNd
      @JoeCnNd Před 3 lety +2

      I'll be your 666th like.

    • @MrGreensweightHist
      @MrGreensweightHist Před 2 lety

      @@idiosyncraticname Compared to many people, including more than a few in this comment section, she deserves at least a 'B'

  • @ivys1991
    @ivys1991 Před 4 lety +56

    In my state, from 3rd grade to 8th grade, you take the ACT Aspire, which is supposed to prepare you for the ACT and predict how well you'll do on the ACT. I took the ACT as a 7th grader, and my ACT Aspire scores directly contradicted my ACT scores. These tests are bullshit. My dad teaches in this state and every time test season comes around we rant about how much it sucks. We found out that my little sister had anxiety disorder because she was having panic attacks about the ACT Aspire in 3RD FUCKING GRADE. We did get her a 504, but even then she was quite a bit anxious.

  • @remytherat966
    @remytherat966 Před 4 lety +36

    When I was in middle school, most of teachers told us whatever they taught was to teach us whatever was on the standardized tests we took. Come test day and none of us know what the material is because what they taught us wasn't even close to the test material and the teacher didn't like that most of us scored below average

  • @mal7559
    @mal7559 Před 5 lety +1462

    we had to quit using pearson because of things like
    you said: 2+2=4
    correct answer: 2+2=4

    • @richiem5112
      @richiem5112 Před 5 lety +27

      What?

    • @mal7559
      @mal7559 Před 5 lety +183

      Richie M haha you clearly have never used pearson

    • @richiem5112
      @richiem5112 Před 5 lety +15

      @@mal7559 Not that I can remember, used plenty of their text books. Enlighten me.

    • @mal7559
      @mal7559 Před 5 lety +190

      @@richiem5112 basically its the worst math program to ever exist because it will constantly delete your progress halfway through but then it wont give you the same problems so its not even like you can just enter the same answers. often times it will tell you that your answer is wrong and they will tell you the right answer but it will be the same as the answer you put (hope that makes sense). in some classes tests are run through pearson, so basically you do homework through pearson and the problems are randomly chosen but then the problems on the tests have not ever been on the homeworks (not the teachers fault, it pearsons fault) sorry if that was scatterbrained. in short it freaking sucks

    • @aparanoidbw
      @aparanoidbw Před 4 lety +71

      absolutely true. Mylab, by pearson absoulutely sucked. myprogramminglab was riddled with things like.
      "what data type stores numbers"
      your answer : integer
      correct answer : Integer
      myspanishlab was not much better.... I heard same for chem, statistics, etc... the prices were bad too.

  • @karmaz3r025
    @karmaz3r025 Před 5 lety +901

    Almost all students, except for high school seniors if they are 18 or older, can legally discuss the SAT and similar tests with those little "i will not discuss this" signatures. Why? Because minors cannot enter a legal-binding contract. Unless your parent or guardian signed that test for you, you can discuss the test all you want, because your own personal underage signature voids the contract.

    • @danielfrank323
      @danielfrank323 Před 5 lety +79

      KarmaZERO holy shirt your right.

    • @mintentha
      @mintentha Před 4 lety +97

      You can legally discuss them but that doesn't mean they can't cancel your scores. It's not like they're pressing legal charges, it's just an agreement

    • @cookieandme23
      @cookieandme23 Před 4 lety +15

      We don’t have to sign anything but we follow those same rules if you have a lunch. In between finishing the test you are isolated in a room with only other people who have to take the test they have a persons watch you as you eat to make sure we don’t discuss it

    • @marieadelegrosso163
      @marieadelegrosso163 Před 4 lety +2

      Oh my gosh you’re right

    • @akiakiii5879
      @akiakiii5879 Před 4 lety +11

      Actually, a contract entered by a minor is not void. It is merely voidable

  • @Anonymous-eo2er
    @Anonymous-eo2er Před 4 lety +94

    At the end of the last semester, I was given a question by one of my teachers. “Many assignments are not graded. How does this affect the time and effort you put into the assignments?”
    I’m assuming they wanted me to be honest so I wrote “I tend to not finish or put effort into assignments that don’t affect grades.”
    American schools depend of grades

    • @imaanahmed4965
      @imaanahmed4965 Před 4 lety +6

      God that's so annoying. We're only graded off of tests and quizzes man. They just give us practices and say "Hey it's not graded but you should really practice if you wanna do good on the quiz/test."

    • @raptorcharly8055
      @raptorcharly8055 Před 4 lety +1

      @@imaanahmed4965
      I'm the same. I do the practice quizzes I'm given sometimes, but not always.

  • @anonwa4309
    @anonwa4309 Před 4 lety +30

    for the “juniors boycotting common core test”, that happened at nathan hale high school in washington. in response, washington REQUIRED that you pass (score of 3 or 4) THREE DIFFERENT EXAMS before you can earn your highschool diploma.

    • @youtubeuniversity3638
      @youtubeuniversity3638 Před 8 měsíci

      ...perfect opportunity for a buncha kids to start doing less than legal things to make that non-possible in an attempt to straight up hold the whole system hostage...

  • @realstarfarts
    @realstarfarts Před 9 lety +421

    I was a test grader after graduating college. You are put in a room with a thousand people and no air conditioning. Everything is a quota, and if you don't hit quota you are demoted again and again. If you give too many high scores, you are demoted. If you don't give around the average, you are demoted. It's all a competition, down to weekly prizes for the most efficient grader. They also require a college degree requirement, but include two-year tech schools.
    It's a machine industry, and it's disgusting.

    • @gigabic7487
      @gigabic7487 Před 9 lety +13

      Organize a strike with anyone who really doesn't have anything to lose who works there. That gets their attention.

    • @ASSASSIN79100
      @ASSASSIN79100 Před 9 lety +9

      krazyorange Dam they should get sued for giving inaccurate test scores.

    • @Mark_Knight
      @Mark_Knight Před 9 lety +11

      krazyorange Making money by ruining the lives of kids. Another reason Americans should riot, but don't. Shame, I have seen more care on Black Friday. Put those efforts into overthrowing a corrupt system....not just Standardized Tests, but the government itself.

    • @haassleholtz
      @haassleholtz Před 9 lety +1

      Why on earth would you be a test grader right after college....you sir or ma'am are the defintion of insane.

    • @haassleholtz
      @haassleholtz Před 9 lety

      Mark M riot..and riot well but not unlike baltimore. Focus and see the end goal. Triumph with true freedom and ensure no government makes new laws toward rioters or crowd contol. ensure that you are not overly governed. Ensure that any man or woman is equal even if seen upon your person dependent on intellect or race or rather the depend on needing the two. Know no other country as being more hostile as your own before it falls and know no other person more than the one who strikes the hammer on your nerve. Learn and educate and spread a message of what we know to be freedom and peace...which we know peace doesnt cost dollars but it costs only time with that we charitably give in order to promote a truely free form of people far beyond what we are now.

  • @Tracymmo
    @Tracymmo Před 7 lety +336

    The comments here from high school students are terrific. So many bright, articulate kids who want a good education and who see through bad curriculum and standardized tests. That kind of skepticism and thoughtfulness will be a lifelong strength.

    • @Bobelponge123
      @Bobelponge123 Před 6 lety +2

      Is this sarcasm?

    • @aoeu256
      @aoeu256 Před 5 lety

      Some of them are just repeating what other people say though...

    • @marcmarroquin259
      @marcmarroquin259 Před 5 lety +3

      Hey I go to a public school and this shits actually real, like it or not our systems fucked up

    • @Mica_T
      @Mica_T Před 5 lety

      Except, as far as I see, few are coming up with solutions as to how to fix the system. It's easy to identify a problem. It's difficult to find a feasible solution.

    • @B.A.G.Studios
      @B.A.G.Studios Před 5 lety +2

      Not sure it’s indicative of intelligence, I know a lot of morons and we all hated the Pearson shitrags they handed us. Most anyone is going to buck at “Hello. Take this test, if you fail, you don’t have a future anymore. Hope you like trash collection! You have 65 minutes.”

  • @balinorgryffudd2963
    @balinorgryffudd2963 Před 3 lety +26

    Testing has gotten so pervasive that teachers only teach the test. My senior algebra teacher actually started to cry in the week leading up to each test.

  • @karensmith6074
    @karensmith6074 Před 4 lety +205

    How come every time children are getting screwed, there's always a company getting rich off it?

    • @youtubeuniversity3638
      @youtubeuniversity3638 Před 4 lety +27

      Children are societally easier targets, it turns out. Other sources of screwing over children are muscled out of the field.

    • @akish302
      @akish302 Před 3 lety +14

      Children can’t vote. Children can’t run for office. Children are not taken seriously.

    • @kermitenthusiast485
      @kermitenthusiast485 Před 3 lety +14

      @@akish302 Children can't call for help, because if they do, they're punished for hassling their parents, teachers, the police, etc. Or, alternatively, they're threatened with it.

    • @0wolfmoon
      @0wolfmoon Před 3 lety +3

      I was going to come up with a joke but after reading the other comments I got too sad

    • @leeb9342
      @leeb9342 Před 3 lety +1

      America.

  • @aprilmazae4811
    @aprilmazae4811 Před 7 lety +472

    I NEVER KNEW I COULD OPT OUT OF TESTS
    We had to take the Pearson tests in elementary school.

    • @jalenm6920
      @jalenm6920 Před 7 lety +4

      Some counties allow you to opt out some don't. Most don't

    • @poke548
      @poke548 Před 7 lety +6

      Oh god Peason. Never mention that name again.

    • @sukki6887
      @sukki6887 Před 7 lety +5

      all the schools I went to would not let you go on to the next grade without taking every test in the courses that where set for the whole grade

    • @glossygloss472
      @glossygloss472 Před 7 lety

      April Mazae, Lol. If you can't handle a test you have a weak mind.

    • @carolinasarmiento4895
      @carolinasarmiento4895 Před 7 lety +4

      +April Mazaae it's not that I can't handle a test, I can't handle inefficient systems, incompetence in the educator's part and don't need to take at least 3 tests weekly

  • @jaydencierra6214
    @jaydencierra6214 Před 7 lety +573

    "what is oil? and be specific"
    a real question i once got a standardized test

    • @alexanderreusens7633
      @alexanderreusens7633 Před 7 lety +81

      This is the only acceptable answer to such a question:
      "Just Google it!!"

    • @santumi2298
      @santumi2298 Před 6 lety +42

      What is oil?
      Fucking unrefined Gas.
      I hate standardized test for this reason

    • @GrapeappleTree
      @GrapeappleTree Před 6 lety +26

      Freedom and Democracy is the only correct answer

    • @ZNI492
      @ZNI492 Před 6 lety +32

      The reason the US invaded my country

    • @condimentking3395
      @condimentking3395 Před 6 lety +9

      Morgan Freeman Please, your not the only one. We invade our own citizens land for it

  • @victoriandoll2164
    @victoriandoll2164 Před 3 lety +23

    Not to mention how hurtful standardized tests are for children with learning disabilities.

  • @joshemane
    @joshemane Před 6 měsíci +13

    Kids aren’t learning content. They’re learning how to take tests. There’s a difference, and a big one.

    • @gnoufignon
      @gnoufignon Před 2 měsíci

      The tests examine the takers' knowledge of the content. Dartmouth is the first to wake up. How do you evaluate anyone's abilities without testing?

    • @joshemane
      @joshemane Před 2 měsíci

      @@gnoufignon by practicing it with them. Put another way, let’s say you’re at a job, and let’s pick a base level job for the fun of it. Cashier. Do you have to take a written test? Nope. You have someone train, and you get to be taken off of training the more you demonstrate proficiency. Your hand is held and slowly let off as necessary. Most jobs, you don’t train for the test. You go through training itself - if you can’t make it past the training period, you don’t have the job. Going back to the topic of school, a lot of school systems aren’t holding the students hands and guiding them, but rather setting the students up for test taking, and then on to the next thing. I have a daughter in kindergarten. Obviously, she really hasn’t gotten to the test taking stage. I’d rather a dialogue be created as to how she’s doing on a particular subject, rather than just her get assigned a number. The fact is, some kids ARE bad test takers. They don’t learn that way.

    • @joshemane
      @joshemane Před 2 měsíci

      @@gnoufignon I’m going to be super nerdy for a moment and say that I view it like “The Flash” from DC. His brain is very much enhanced by the speed force. He can learn entire languages in seconds. He can essentially freeze time and read a book on how to, let’s say, build a house. But the problem is that it doesn’t stick in his brain for very long. I view our test taking system the same way. Kids are learning as much as they need to pass the test, and then it doesn’t stick.
      Sorry, I’m a huge comics nerd lol

  • @underwaterlion5453
    @underwaterlion5453 Před 9 lety +564

    The show needs to be renamed " "Reasons I am happy to be Canadian instead of American" with John Oliver"

    • @HackersSun
      @HackersSun Před 9 lety +16

      J Lal (grunts) got room up there for me?
      I kind of want to move where the polar bears are C:

    • @jsmetalcore
      @jsmetalcore Před 9 lety +38

      J Lal This is when I hide my US passport and pull out the UK passport and say "Who's an American?"

    • @SpankinDaBagel
      @SpankinDaBagel Před 9 lety

      jsmetalcore Lmao I feel you.

    • @Nathan-vg4bl
      @Nathan-vg4bl Před 9 lety +30

      J Lal Canada is not much better right now.

    • @austinpeay1615
      @austinpeay1615 Před 9 lety +15

      But he's British?

  • @mississippiboy1581
    @mississippiboy1581 Před 7 lety +404

    The best country in the world on education rankings has next to no tests.

    • @mississippiboy1581
      @mississippiboy1581 Před 7 lety +75

      Finland

    • @yiannay
      @yiannay Před 7 lety +69

      I was just about to say the same. And as a teacher I know that testing can never be a measurement to one's knowledge or skills. Especially the multiple choice questions. They are especially made to confuse.

    • @parker469a
      @parker469a Před 7 lety

      Please use a better picture of yourself for your thumbnail or at least something else, I can't really tell what you look like. I don't mean to be rude but let's just say I completely mistook what was going on in that picture and you don't want people thinking what I was thinking when they look at it.

    • @ghost-kv4ii
      @ghost-kv4ii Před 7 lety +35

      bruh, Are you a complete fucking idiot? you can't just go telling random people to use better pictures themselves

    • @parker469a
      @parker469a Před 7 lety

      Yes I can and it was more about the lighting in the picture than anything else. Also I wasn't talking to you so fuck off.... what the hell is the person holding up in your picture... celery or is it some Beaker from the muppets sorta thing? A peanut with an afro? It's hard to tell with the picture being that small and being in black an white.

  • @peasantsoul
    @peasantsoul Před 3 lety +61

    Seeing the kid cry made me tear up. I hate seeing how these tests mess with the kids.

  • @_caith
    @_caith Před 3 lety +13

    As an Austrian, I went to an American School. I'm 28 now, back in Austria, and in a relationship with a teacher. I remember how odd it felt when she explained the different teaching models we have here, and how there just plain arent any standardized tests, since each class gets treated as a unique situation, which just can't be fairly compared with other classes...

  • @r-robertson-d
    @r-robertson-d Před 5 lety +691

    Not only do they have protocol for if a student vomits on the test booklet, they also added protocols for if a student faints, has a panic attack, or attempts to harm themselves during the test.
    The protocol is essentially "if they don't need to be taken to a hospital, give them water and make them finish the test."

    • @megabigblur
      @megabigblur Před 5 lety +74

      This is child abuse

    • @nathanielclaw2841
      @nathanielclaw2841 Před 5 lety +35

      Harm themselves!? WTF?

    • @brando51
      @brando51 Před 5 lety +50

      Nathaniel Claw I was in a class and a girl started cutting her wrists with scissors to get out of the test

    • @tearstainsonmycheeks
      @tearstainsonmycheeks Před 5 lety +58

      G G the incredible amount of stress and knowing that if you do horribly, you will feel like a disappointment, yes. Now, please stop insulting people for things you quite obviously know nothing about.

    • @Kpimpmaster
      @Kpimpmaster Před 5 lety +13

      Sounds like China’s employee heath plan

  • @testticklehead
    @testticklehead Před 5 lety +2148

    So while I was working at Pearson all of the employees were notified that John Oliver was doing a "positive" piece on Pearson. Most employees tuned in and quickly realized that he was bashing the company and showing Pearson's true side. The next day Upper management hid their faces in shame and we were told that John Oliver failed to show the true face of Pearson. Oh how we all had a laugh.
    I worked for Pearson for 6 years in several departments. Long story short.....upper management made such bad decisions that most US employees thought that they were purposely sabotaging the company.

    • @batman8214
      @batman8214 Před 5 lety +138

      Holy crap! That´s crazy, thank you for your comment. It´s good to hear from someone that was once on the inside.

    • @jannegrey593
      @jannegrey593 Před 5 lety +33

      Thanks for this comment. Seriously.

    • @nicolaslevraud5311
      @nicolaslevraud5311 Před 5 lety +50

      I guess hiding in shame is better than sueing him, at least they admit there is a problem. Thanks for your comment.

    • @RickReasonnz
      @RickReasonnz Před 5 lety +98

      Whaaaaat.... who in their right mind, when hearing that their company will be featured on LWT... would assume it would be positive? Have the management ever SEEN John Oliver?

    • @jimmythornseed8605
      @jimmythornseed8605 Před 5 lety +32

      Those execs should get an F for even thinking being the subject of the show would be a good thing. It's obvious none of them studied it.

  • @morganqorishchi8181
    @morganqorishchi8181 Před 3 lety +19

    I didn't get to take AP English because in fifth grade, when I was 11, I had the reading comprehension, speed and conceptualization skills of a college freshman. Or in other words, I got a perfect score - highest in the Northwestern United States - and was unable to improve my score after that. So I was put in remedial English for all of middle school and high school. I read War and Peace and the entirety of Lord of the Rings when I was 14 and was put in a class where they taught us to sound out words because I "hadn't improved".

    • @Tonyhouse1168
      @Tonyhouse1168 Před rokem +1

      Same. Read The Hobbit in a weekend when I was 12, got put into the gifted and talented program. Started public school for 8th grade, stayed in the program, did football, academic decathlon, track, drama, choir, and had a part-time job all through high school; transferred schools right before senior year, took all the AP classes, was informed the penultimate day of class that I wasn’t getting college credit for the AP classes bc some document I didn’t signed was mailed to a random address bc I didn’t have a permanent address until the second month of school. Turned down all the scholarships after being so disillusioned with the whole thing, made a million+ working in the bar business and never looked back. It absolutely sucks that the system is actually rigged and that you got a raw deal. I hope you’re doing well now.

  • @aniawolf5491
    @aniawolf5491 Před 11 měsíci +5

    Last Week Tonight should do an updated piece on standardized testing, and a piece on The College Board.

  • @incendere244
    @incendere244 Před 7 lety +1351

    "benchmarks, diagnostics and tests" what are they, kids or computer components?

    • @incendere244
      @incendere244 Před 7 lety +90

      FCAT? THAT SHIT IS A GPU BENCHMARK, THEY DO TEST KIDS LIKE COMPUTER COMPONETS

    • @helioskitty9328
      @helioskitty9328 Před 7 lety +111

      It makes sense that a culture which treats its adults as mechanical parts would use equipment-based metrics for the children.

    • @Omegeddon
      @Omegeddon Před 7 lety +45

      I wish GPU rendering was on the curriculum

    • @larrygan9839
      @larrygan9839 Před 7 lety +5

      HeliosKitty

    • @youtubeuniversity3638
      @youtubeuniversity3638 Před 6 lety +6

      Or? That would require schools seeing any difference.

  • @ayahsaid8356
    @ayahsaid8356 Před 9 lety +335

    my sister was told that if she doesn't do good on the Reading test she'll be forced to repeat the whole grade. so they made her read every fucking day of her spring break... for a grade.

    • @feliciacanez3769
      @feliciacanez3769 Před 9 lety

      6f

    • @Ajcruz913
      @Ajcruz913 Před 9 lety +25

      Ayah Said Is that a bad thing? To read?

    • @gjm346
      @gjm346 Před 9 lety +126

      Ajcruz913 Reading for the sake of reading? NO. Reading for something that can mentally torture, scare, and or make you go insane all for a score that shouldn't apply to the real world but does? maybe.
      Reading is a method for learning(non-fiction/text books) or entertainment(Fiction), it can give a person Knowledge, giving new understanding on one or more subjects or to escape from reality for a bit. It should not be used to make people never want to read again.

    • @farrex0
      @farrex0 Před 9 lety +88

      Ajcruz913 Well I thought that reading was boring most of my life because I was forced to read in school it wasn't until I decided for myself to read that I discovered that it was awesome, but forcing someone to read might just make that person never want to read again.

    • @ayahsaid8356
      @ayahsaid8356 Před 9 lety +4

      gjm346 couldn't have said it better

  • @elimorozov4769
    @elimorozov4769 Před 3 lety +12

    I remember when I took the AP Chemistry exam and one of the free response questions wasn’t actually a question, it was a statement of fact. I drew a picture instead of answering the question and I still scored a 4 out of 5 on the test, so I’m not sure what that was about.

  • @theshawshankinception1220

    As a white guy who grew up in an upper-middle-class household who has a natural gift for test-taking and information absorption, especially in Mathematics, and who is just seeing this now as a 23 year old man, this is a massive eye-opener.

  • @lowereastsideastrologist7769
    @lowereastsideastrologist7769 Před 4 lety +2228

    Standardized tests are essentially glorified short term memory tests.

    • @Dawn24Michele
      @Dawn24Michele Před 3 lety +67

      Not even that. They are only used to determine how much a teacher's raise will be. Nothing more.

    • @fredreickweaver809
      @fredreickweaver809 Před 3 lety +33

      As someone with a severe cognitive impairment resting to short term memory and who scored extremely well on standardized test which saved my college app experience, I reject this. Their are problems of course, but these tests identify people with learning disabilities who are missed by the system. Also the blatant anti intellectualism of the “look how complicated the formula looks” is hilarious, and a bit depressing.

    • @spritemon98
      @spritemon98 Před 3 lety +9

      I was 2 points off of my English test and I still failed

    • @ericschnautz6603
      @ericschnautz6603 Před 3 lety +27

      I got a perfect score on the Math part of my PSAT in my freshman year and my scores just started declining after that because the only time I was using that information was in freshman algebra and Geometry. Most students are supposed to build up to that and take algebra two in their junior year and then nail the SATs because the information is fresh in their minds. Being in the advanced classes actually made me and my friends have worse test scores than average students. Standardized testing is so useless and it pisses me off.

    • @jonc8074
      @jonc8074 Před 3 lety +19

      No Child Left Behind was just an excuse to cut funding for schools with lots of poor kids, and children who don't speak english at home as in general they do not do as well as rich white kids on this type of test, rolled out around the same time as the School to Prison pipeline. Republicans.

  • @worldwidehandsome240
    @worldwidehandsome240 Před 7 lety +450

    Testing industry???
    What
    Those questions are made by companies???
    Wtf

    • @dantefiore8442
      @dantefiore8442 Před 7 lety +41

      murica

    • @SayHelloHelli
      @SayHelloHelli Před 7 lety +9

      Nikita Roza you would be so shocked by the amount of preparation that goes into the tests. There are special panels to try to route out biases and all sorts of things. I read this book about it, it was astounding. let me find the book.

    • @Hotmankillu
      @Hotmankillu Před 7 lety +47

      The same companies that write your textbooks and other supplies you use. Collegeboard, Pearson, and other companies make exam review and then the test questions. Textbooks are a ridiculous scam and testing is worse. But yeah, it's an industry, a nasty one. So, try your best to not buy textbooks if/when you attend college.

    • @korayacar1444
      @korayacar1444 Před 7 lety +5

      Hotmankillu Or just buy introductory books from trusted authors. They serve as textbooks, and aren't garbage.

    • @XenomorphsWrath
      @XenomorphsWrath Před 6 lety +11

      Free marked and capitalism my frind!
      As long as you can convince enough people that it works, no one will bat an eye if you abuse it to the fullest.

  • @malcolmbuehler5619
    @malcolmbuehler5619 Před 4 lety +15

    I'm actually watching this a few hours after my AP world history test

    • @shilpashiju1510
      @shilpashiju1510 Před 4 lety

      Dude college bored has a case against it form this year exam. Ya!

  • @akish302
    @akish302 Před 3 lety +17

    “There are 800 small children weighing 50 lbs each on a rickety bus on a tightrope. Find the color of the tightrope.”

  • @wesleylance8221
    @wesleylance8221 Před 7 lety +336

    I can't say that I've ever burst into tears or vomited on my test, but i can say firsthand that us kids are given about as much respect as horny cows.

    • @Polarcupcheck
      @Polarcupcheck Před 7 lety +3

      Do you play on your phone and fuck around the whole class?

    • @jayjaythejetplane5390
      @jayjaythejetplane5390 Před 6 lety +58

      Polarcupcheck I think I speak for many students when I say that I work hard and pay attention in class. We still get fuck all respect from people who I assume have a similar mind set as you.

    • @avocadokin
      @avocadokin Před 6 lety +9

      Polarcupcheck I work hard and get good grades but before I was diagnosed and given medication for my ADHD I got bad test scores. I didn't play around in class and didn't have a mobile device. I still got bad scores though. Luckily because how how well I did in class I still got in advanced classes but this could have easily gone a lot worse for me.

    • @98doom
      @98doom Před 6 lety

      I constantly use to crave ABCD over and over during pracc testing

    • @daylight8208
      @daylight8208 Před 6 lety

      Wesley Lance most ACT like horny cows

  • @obrien92
    @obrien92 Před 8 lety +4319

    There was one test I took where a girl literally cried, vomited, and then passed out because she didn't eat or sleep in preparation for the test.
    They still made her take it.

    • @matthew_natividad
      @matthew_natividad Před 8 lety +406

      That's fucked up

    • @GregaMeglic
      @GregaMeglic Před 8 lety +273

      Damn. If that happened in our country people would start screaming bloody vengence and demanding heads start to roll.

    • @ChunkyWaterisReal
      @ChunkyWaterisReal Před 8 lety +236

      +Grega Meglic if you do that in america you just get labeled as a violent progressive/terrorist. the propaganda machine in america is fucking insane.

    • @GregaMeglic
      @GregaMeglic Před 8 lety +107

      Conlan Hinkel
      that is sad to say the least. the base for democracy is a population taking the government out on every single piece of bullshit they produce, going by defenition.

    • @leviethan7893
      @leviethan7893 Před 7 lety +33

      That's f'd up

  • @rinwhittney5039
    @rinwhittney5039 Před 4 lety +15

    I remember standardized test in my middle school, they said they wouldn't keep the scores and it wouldn't affect anything.
    guess what
    they lied, you can still see the scores and they DID affect our grades

  • @jxc1640
    @jxc1640 Před 2 lety +7

    Hearing the names McGraw and Pearson immediately make my day worse.
    Also, I’m in an AP US history class. What does my teacher say on the first day? “There isn’t enough time for me to go over everything in the test.” Well that was very reassuring.
    Want to know what the class passing rate was for the test in 2020? Only 30%.

  • @Midna127
    @Midna127 Před 7 lety +301

    "What does the test say?"
    "Get your middle finger out, get your middle finger out, GET YOUR MIDDLE FINGER OUT!!!"

  • @alexschulte2749
    @alexschulte2749 Před 5 lety +261

    When I was in 2nd grade, me and 4 other students tested "too high" on the computer-based OAKS (Oregon) exam. They took us out of class a week later, accused us of cheating, and made us take the paper version in the cafeteria with 3 officials watching us. Guess what, we all tested with either basically the same scores, or in 2 cases, higher. We were so scared that we were going to get in trouble.

    • @alexschulte2749
      @alexschulte2749 Před 5 lety +40

      Then when I was in High School, they would take about 50 of the top test scores and make us take the test twice to raise the overall score of the school to receive more funding. One time I took an English OAKS test 3 times to help raise the average. They didn't even lie to us about it, they literally told us the reason why we had to waste an hour of our time taking a pointless test. And my GPA sucked too lol

    • @ew4932
      @ew4932 Před 4 lety +4

      We used to have to take the Iowa test every two years. I always did extremely well, as did my brother and sister. We all went to a public school in a very good district.

    • @studypurposes4658
      @studypurposes4658 Před 2 lety +9

      @@alexschulte2749 damn thats so sketchy, they better had used those funds for something beneficial

  • @LakeFX
    @LakeFX Před 4 lety +12

    Watching in 2020 like:
    What are these "schools" of which you speak?

  • @jsdrury2416
    @jsdrury2416 Před 3 lety +4

    School is hell, im a sophomore in highschool and its hard to even get out of bed anymore

  • @BSKX17
    @BSKX17 Před 6 lety +1849

    Is there anything in America that's not controlled by big companies?

  • @meimae7804
    @meimae7804 Před 5 lety +1323

    Honestly we’re taught like we’re supposed to work in a factory and tested like we have PhDs

    • @jemiebridges3197
      @jemiebridges3197 Před 5 lety +69

      That's exactly what they. Only its now 20+ years out of date for the jobs we have now.

    • @aoeu256
      @aoeu256 Před 5 lety +5

      @G G It would be easier if it wasn't for all those government laws and regulations though...

    • @thagodwecreate5179
      @thagodwecreate5179 Před 5 lety +17

      Fuck school. Manufacture drugs, bury $$$, hire a great lawyer, do some prison time and come out to retrieve your $$$. No college debt no credit card debt no family no kids...yea got a criminal record but never gonna need a job or credit n retirement is already saved for...if i live that long. Life is a marathon, not a sprint.

    • @AnkitKshatriya
      @AnkitKshatriya Před 5 lety +8

      @@thagodwecreate5179 good plan.... But what about rape in prison?

    • @FauxFoxPaw
      @FauxFoxPaw Před 5 lety +3

      @G G Huh?

  • @nerdly745
    @nerdly745 Před 4 lety +4

    Me: *hears Pearson* *ptsd enabled* PEARSONNN!!!! I’ve been outta high school for 2 years and I still get chills when I hear Pearson..

  • @adelepattonxxx
    @adelepattonxxx Před rokem +4

    How can he make legitimate social and political issues that are awful and research them in a wonderful journalistic manner, going over so many awful things and make me laugh, so much.
    John oliver and Team- i vote for you !!!

  • @Callestere
    @Callestere Před 9 lety +217

    Looking back on my school years, it's just been test after test, test to see if you can take another test, prepare for another test in a week, prepare for a couple tests before your final which determines whether or not you can pass your grade despite your work before then. What I learned should not have been primarily based on what would be on a test.

    • @maurice1177
      @maurice1177 Před 9 lety +6

      ***** I have to take 8 tests in the next 3 weeks!

    • @Callestere
      @Callestere Před 9 lety

      Mo rice Wow! That sucks dude! I wish you luck on all those tests, just focus on the next one and before you know it you'll be done!

    • @andreaslordos
      @andreaslordos Před 9 lety +5

      Mo rice 8 tests in 3 weeks? try 4 tests in 2 days :)

    • @andreaslordos
      @andreaslordos Před 9 lety

      Mo rice But good luck:D

    • @redaurelia6252
      @redaurelia6252 Před 9 lety

      ***** Are you from US? Can you explain it to me because I am confused...are these normal tests or something special about them...because we had probably around 40-50 tests a year. These standardized tests are probably something else...?

  • @catblimp7894
    @catblimp7894 Před 5 lety +661

    Almost all my teachers before testing said the exact same thing when we were about to take the test: "Don't care about your grade, it's a stupid state requirement."

  • @DepressinglyOptimistic
    @DepressinglyOptimistic Před 4 lety +6

    When we did our standardized tests (before no child left behind), we had one grade that did english, one that did math, and so on... so I ended up doing math tests for 5 years in a row. It wasn't until 8th grade that our state began testing each grade in all subjects.
    And the problem isn't the test itself, it is that the teachers knew what their class was going to be tested in, so that would be our main focus. So for 5 years in a row, we had 20 students (in my class alone) mainly learning math with everything else falling to the wayside (the other class in my grade always got english, thne other schools in the district would get the other subjects) . This made for a lof of catching up when we went to middle school and suddenly had to understand what we should have been learning equally the entire time. And by seperatign subjects across the schools, we never had a clue we were supposed to do anything different.

  • @crystalcrusader8832
    @crystalcrusader8832 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I just turned 20 this year. I had to take many tests. As a young kid I remember reading a test question about writing a story about a specific moment in my life that the test assumed I had. I did not have that. For most kids they could’ve just lied about it, but the idea of writing something I had no experience with was so overwhelming I began to cry, and had to be escorted out of the room so I wouldn’t cry on my test. My teacher literally came up to me and pushed the booklet away. 12 or so years later I was finally tested for Autism. My grade school teachers and counselors apparently saw the warning signs, but never cared enough to give me the one test that would’ve saved me years of frustration. I’m still mad about that.

    • @coalblooded
      @coalblooded Před 4 měsíci

      Man, seriously, I often look back at moments in my childhood where it was glaringly obvious to everyone but me and yet nothing was done to test and diagnose my autism way back then. It's helpful knowing now, but a few decades ago would've been better.

  • @Kat-ng2oo
    @Kat-ng2oo Před 7 lety +88

    As a student in America, I agree with everything said. There are few ways to check progress, but the pressure placed on students for standardized testing is unacceptable.

  • @christophermorales5349
    @christophermorales5349 Před 6 lety +783

    My English teacher (he’s a doctor) who used to be a standardized test grader told us that they don’t actually read our essays but look at them.
    1) Small handwriting (and sloppy) means you’re smart
    2) Long Essay means you’re coherent so add fluff. Lots of it. Rewrite the same sentence twice if need be.
    3) Write the quotes larger than the rest of the piece to be sure they see that you quoted the article and give you the point(s) for it
    Thus you have a perfect score.

    • @magentaMegi
      @magentaMegi Před 6 lety +70

      Some of my teachers and tutors told me good advice in non standardized testing.
      Thanks for putting up yours.
      Standardized testing just makes it easier on the people who mark it, since there is a multiple choice where there is only one answer
      But in the test situation, everyone is tense. There is a time limit, and the best advice I got was, when you are unsure of your answer, skip the question
      And return to it later.
      It saves time, and the number of questions and the time frame you have is important.

    • @trial_with_an_error9687
      @trial_with_an_error9687 Před 6 lety +156

      I remember taking a test that wanted a 10 page story on our own tale of King Arthur.
      One of the kids in the class literally wrote the word "The" for ten entire pages. Out of 30 kids in the class he got a perfect score. The literally do not read the essays at all.

    • @chibiprussia5574
      @chibiprussia5574 Před 6 lety +21

      Christopher Morales I wish I could known that when I was a kid.

    • @namingisdifficult408
      @namingisdifficult408 Před 6 lety +5

      Chibi Prussia agreed

    • @Scavs_Inc
      @Scavs_Inc Před 6 lety +79

      Christopher Morales I suspected my Driver's Ed teacher of not reading essay answers on the tests, so I began to answer questions in French...the teacher gave me straight A's the whole semester...

  • @Jack_M
    @Jack_M Před 4 lety +5

    Who else is rewatching old episodes until he gets to have an audience again?

  • @mask938
    @mask938 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I’ve learned more useful information from watching TV shows and movies than I have from taking standardized tests.

  • @angelfaye101
    @angelfaye101 Před 7 lety +178

    I lived in Florida for during the 4th and 5th grade (2000-2002) I remember in the 5th grade in particular that in order to pass the FCAT the only subjects we were taught were math, reading and writing. I vividly remember my 5th grade teacher Ms. Webber telling us at one point that our grades in geometry were going to count for our science grade. low and behold and the end of those years my school was ranked as one of the best schools in the area because of this. it wasn't until I got a little older that I realized how dirty such a practice was

    • @Polarcupcheck
      @Polarcupcheck Před 7 lety +13

      They do that shit. I've seen gym classes included to fudge grades. LOL

  • @veronica_hon
    @veronica_hon Před 7 lety +285

    there is something fundamentally wrong with the system when my future, goals and ambitions can be shut down with one number...

    • @Insertnamehere188
      @Insertnamehere188 Před 7 lety +5

      You gotta work for what you want dude.

    • @ughkac
      @ughkac Před 7 lety +33

      Insertnamehere188 The problem with that is that some people are just not good test takers. For those people working hard won't change anything, they still would get bad scores. The intelligence of a person should not be dictated by a few tests that are purposely written to be confusing.

    • @nataliagonzalez1698
      @nataliagonzalez1698 Před 6 lety +10

      Insertnamehere188 did you not hear the guy with freaking degrees even scoring low on the tests?

    • @reginaphalange8955
      @reginaphalange8955 Před 6 lety +3

      kac "For those people working hard won't change anything" That just means you're less intelligently capable. I could try my hardest to play basketball yet I still wouldn't be as good as Michael Jordan, it doesn't mean the game of basketball itself is wrong but rather that I wasn't born with the natural talent. That's the hard truth, I've seen quite a few people who naturally have a great comprehensive understanding ability and are better than even those who put in more effort than them; just because it's unfair (in the sense that some people can't get high scores despite being dilligent whereas others can get high score due to natural born talent), doesn't mean it's not accurate representation of one's intelligence.

    • @morganmartin5860
      @morganmartin5860 Před 6 lety +8

      +Regina Phalange But there are students who are very smart who still get low test scores. A lot of kids get good grades but low scores on standardized tests. Which one do you think is a better measure of one's intelligence: how a student is evaluated through a variety of assignments, projects, and tests over the course of an entire school year in a class, or a single standardized test?

  • @oliverc.karstark1950
    @oliverc.karstark1950 Před 4 lety +2

    This is the first time my country has been in one of your episodes... When showing the ranking in 1999... For a split second. Shoutout from international number 12, Austria! BTW: schools sometimes don't let students take these tests if they're too bad at the tested subject... So these "bad students" don't mess up the overall score. We have a lot of work to do still, too, despite what our rankings say.

  • @arianal5028
    @arianal5028 Před 4 lety +5

    10:59 as a student that is still in school I have seen 4 of those logos this month. And McGraw Hill is my homework every day so I’m not surprised

  • @EnLaLuna23
    @EnLaLuna23 Před 5 lety +369

    They’re supposed to measure intelligence, but all they measure is your ability to take a test. I’m lucky in that I usually do well on standardized tests but I have so many friends who are incredibly smart but don’t do well because of test taking anxiety. It sucks that these tests determine ours (and our teachers’) scores

    • @lizvargas6576
      @lizvargas6576 Před 4 lety +2

      I also get anxiety when taking test and is what brings my grades down.🙁😔

    • @charlescannon2469
      @charlescannon2469 Před 4 lety +5

      And I'm the exact opposite, I rock at tests and couldn't really do shit with daily work, tedium shuts my brain down. But since tests were so important I passed a multiple grades spending nearly every day not doing any school work or being detention.

    • @jirachiteaminstinct4310
      @jirachiteaminstinct4310 Před 4 lety +2

      Charles Cannon I was exactly the same way. Class is tedious and boring. Often completely irrelevant to real life. Tests on the other hand are competitive and put you under pressure, so it feels like your doing something productive.

    • @no_peace
      @no_peace Před 4 lety +1

      They're supposed to measure learning/improvement not intelligence

  • @spookyscaryskeletonssendss2789

    I'm now in college, but I can still remember my teachers literally telling us that our scored would affect their jobs. They would straight up tell us that if we didn't do well they could get in trouble.
    I also don't think that standardized testing, even tests like the SAT or ACT, are accurate. Don't get me wrong; to a certain degree they are. People don't just get a 2000+ on the SAT for nothing, but it definitely punishes students who are slow readers, or the ones who have an eye for detail, or one's that like to write more things out. I was a decent student, didnt study, and scored 1830 on my PSAT without studying. My friends who had consistent honor student records, had 4.0+ gpas, and were state level competitors in various science club competitions like Science Olympia did not score more than a 1600 after studying for it for a week.
    And before people say "oh, it doesn't matter" or "it balances out", just know that these scores can cause them to lose out on THOUSANDS of dollars in scholarship money. I wish John Oliver would do a video on colleges to follow this one up :)

    • @reginaphalange8955
      @reginaphalange8955 Před 6 lety

      Revo Red "Fuck the ACTs" because you're upset you got a low score despite trying hard... I don't understand the logic behind that argument

    • @optimisms
      @optimisms Před 6 lety +5

      Absolutely! I have ADHD and get testing accommodations, but my school didn't tell me that I had to file with College Board to get those accommodations on their tests. So my PSAT, the big one in 11th grade, I didn't get extended time, and I literally didn't even get to half of the test questions in the math sections. So in 11th grade, my english score went up 30 points, but my math went down 50, and I'm ONE point below my school's threshold for the National Merit Scholar competition. I get a letter, commending me for my score, and that's it.
      And they refuse to admit any responsibility for my THOUSANDS of lost dollars. My parents considered suing but we don't have the energy or time to deal with that, lots of medical issues and stuff that take away from that. But it's so infuriating every time I think about it.
      Oh, and here's the zinger: when I took the SAT after getting accommodations, I got a 1580 (out of 1600) without studying. Perfect on math. Who knows what I could have gotten on the PSAT?

    • @personncfdhbhbv
      @personncfdhbhbv Před 6 lety

      Problem is you really can't study for the Sat or Act. You just have to hope you have seen the topics in your classes up to that point

  • @chaoticnetural5752
    @chaoticnetural5752 Před 4 lety +3

    Common core was so terrible- I’m so glad I moved to an IB school. I remember writing a guided essay about the safety pin- did you know the original inventor of the safety pin actually make it to pay off debt to the person who actually got all the credit for it? I know that. I also, at the time of writing that essay, did not know where Portugal was on the map. In 5th grade.

  • @WolfenRyujin
    @WolfenRyujin Před 3 lety +2

    Considering my school years are almost two decades behind me, i'm still very glad that here in germany there are few, if any, standardized tests. Most of the tests we took in school were built in a way that you had to freely write your answer, which helped at least me remember most of the stuff better.

  • @taiasoncole8148
    @taiasoncole8148 Před 8 lety +226

    One thing I always hated was English standerized tests. At least with Math there was something to study for and only one right answer. But the English tests is based solely on whether or not you can read a passage and have the same opinion on it the same way the test makers did which isn't an objective way to grade kids. It frustrated me.

    • @ParallaxScene
      @ParallaxScene Před 8 lety +26

      Exactly, why I hated English were way too open to interpretation .

    • @psycoNaughtplaysMCPC
      @psycoNaughtplaysMCPC Před 8 lety +18

      The thing with literature is it intentionally lends itself to interpretation. For example in the case of "Frankenstein, the Modern Prometheus" my friend felt that Dr. Frankenstein did no wrong and only meant to advance science in which his death was unintentional, while I felt his ambition drove him mad and forced him to become what he feared the most (the monster was him in other words) and thus his death was unavoidable

    • @taiasoncole8148
      @taiasoncole8148 Před 8 lety +10

      Psyconaught Gaming
      Exactly.

    • @thomasross4578
      @thomasross4578 Před 8 lety +7

      English tests suck, thats about it.
      It is all opinionated and my scores massively varied from top 5%( from 3rd to 7th) to the 81st in 8th and back to the top 5% in 9th.
      The AP tests are the only descent non-math tests at all, and they can suck sometimes too.

    • @evelynfinegan4687
      @evelynfinegan4687 Před 8 lety +13

      The problem with a lot of testing for english classes in the Elementary and Middle School years is that it's supposed to test reading comprehension, and not interpretation. Middle school is supposed to introduce students to interpretation (with "short answer" questions), but it isn't until high school where you're really supposed to get into interpreting literature. I don't know if I agree it should wait that long, but it's based off of early 1900's ideas about education and etc etc etc that's not what I'm here for.
      It's hard to gauge comprehension though, you can have the obvious questions (Who's the main character, the antagonist, the climax, the this, the that, and the other) but how do you gauge the more advanced comprehension? Those "level 2" and "level 3" questions? You can ask about the themes and symbolism of a piece of fiction, that's easy enough, but it's not always easy. The minute you frame something as an opinion (what do you THINK would have happened) all bets are off. In my opinion, the education in the English classroom shouldn't judge whether or not the student can correctly interpret what the question's author was thinking, but whether or not they can articulate and back their answer. If you're reading Romeo and Juliet, and someone asks what you think would've happened if Romeo hadn't drank the poison and your answer is the Mongols invade and give everyone ice cream, as long as you can articulate a reasonable explanation that fits the narrative of the rest of the story than that should be all that matters.

  • @ChazzzyF
    @ChazzzyF Před 7 lety +639

    And now we have Betsy DeVos as our Secretary of Education.
    Jesus Christ, we're fucked.

    • @ZeldagigafanMatthew
      @ZeldagigafanMatthew Před 6 lety +9

      not if that bitch drops dead.

    • @gninja92
      @gninja92 Před 6 lety +1

      ChazzzyF maybe vote on every election ?
      Not just when the orangutan fights the "I have a vaginas so I'm qualified " candidate

    • @morganmartin5860
      @morganmartin5860 Před 6 lety +6

      We are most definitely fucked. Couldn't have said it better myself.

    • @remenir97
      @remenir97 Před 6 lety +2

      +Robert1811 you're standards must be low.
      What are you into? granny?

  • @user-N20
    @user-N20 Před 3 lety +12

    I still remember when I found out that a contract signed by a minor is not legally binding.

  • @Marlyjade
    @Marlyjade Před 3 lety +5

    This gives me flashbacks to highschool. I am so glad that I have graduated and don't have to take the STAAR anymore.
    To put how crazy it is, they make you take mock staar tests before the real one before freshman year. I moved to America and my first day of school was on a 'STAAR Simulation' day. It is a 4 hour test that literally doesn't count to anything. It fucking sucked. I legit was scared
    Especially because it is not that good for those of us with disability. It is draining. I hated it.

    • @agitodragoon3736
      @agitodragoon3736 Před 2 lety

      I relate so hard to this-
      STAAR is just a fuckin nightmare of a test since you could get straight As in a class but still fail the grade if you fail the STAAR

  • @ZuzuPie
    @ZuzuPie Před 8 lety +204

    Oh god I remember that pineapple question.

  • @jacobgarsson2447
    @jacobgarsson2447 Před 7 lety +238

    My brother took the PARCC and it had two questions on it that were not written in English. It was a science test.

    • @Bobelponge123
      @Bobelponge123 Před 6 lety +1

      Forreal

    • @dod1mcb1
      @dod1mcb1 Před 6 lety

      I feel so sorry for your brother. That's must be terrifying to see words in foreign language

  • @NightOfTheRevolution
    @NightOfTheRevolution Před 3 lety +1

    Im so high I started crying when he started talking about the puppy being left unsnuggled

  • @justnobody6703
    @justnobody6703 Před 4 lety +4

    The girl at 9:57 broke my heart 😭

  • @SirLotzz
    @SirLotzz Před 9 lety +196

    You study for an exam that you'll forget about after you take it. >.>

    • @BigWalt1722
      @BigWalt1722 Před 9 lety +2

      SirLotzz #Im14andIthinkthisisedgy

    • @martix41
      @martix41 Před 9 lety +17

      SirLotzz yeah because after you take the exam, you stop studying it... In order for you to actually remember, you need to be continuously studying the same subject, or endlessly revising it.

    • @GrantTheHierophant
      @GrantTheHierophant Před 9 lety +4

      SirLotzz I completely forgot all of the math taught to me in 10-12th grade, as well as any science taught to me ever.

    • @goclbert
      @goclbert Před 9 lety +23

      That's how school everwhere works. You spend 12 years of your life learning ramdom crap and then you go to university where you slowly trim the fat until you are finally only taking classes that matter.

    • @davethewave9939
      @davethewave9939 Před 9 lety +2

      I'm planning to become a biochemist, and I can already see that most of the math I am taught is useless. Tell me, when am I going to ever use geometry or algebra 2 trig when mixing chemicals?

  • @willzyxOfficial
    @willzyxOfficial Před 7 lety +241

    I was raised in one of these top ranking European countries, never had any intense testing as a kid. One nationwide test at age 12, that we barely prepare for, and at high school graduation. How does the US think education works...?
    Americans have some deeply ingrained hate of government interference, but seem to not mind being slaves to corporations.

    • @cuuy
      @cuuy Před 6 lety +20

      +Not Todd Howard "1. Look at the rest of the world
      2. Pretend it doesn't exist"
      Really seems like it's true, otherwise I cant understand how the us government believed that they can improve the school system simply with more tests. So many countries have better school system, and they don't do it with more tests.
      Maybe except some asian countries. But you don't really want that pressure and high suicide quote around exam season for the students.

    • @EmilioReyes_97
      @EmilioReyes_97 Před 6 lety +3

      willzyx .....Mind letting me in on how your country's education works?

    • @angeldela7633
      @angeldela7633 Před 5 lety

      willzyx how does you system work

    • @Careonovam
      @Careonovam Před 5 lety +10

      @@angeldela7633 since there was no answer, I feel like it won't hurt to butt in... In Germany, we have a system that is clearly not the best, but works pretty well - without students passing out or vomiting because of tests. When the child starts school, it will be in the "Grundschule" (Basics School, don't know how to describe it better) for 4 years, where the basics are taught. After that, the way splits. Children who have passed their tests (a few small ones, a few bigger ones over the years, all count together) with very good and good marks (rated from good to bad 1 to 6) have the opportunity to go to the "Gymnasium", where they receive a more difficult education. Students who do average also have that option if they want to, but mostly they choose to go to the "Hauptschule" (Main School). While the Gymnasium will be 8 years (so 12 together with the Grundschule), the Hauptschule is only 6 years (10 together with the Grundschule. While it still has a good education, it is not as highly regarded as the Gymnasium. Lastly, children who do poor on most of their tests and in school (behavior, social interaction etc) because of either learning disabilities or other reasons will go to the "Realschule", which is only for 4 years, so 8 together with the Grundschule. If you finish the Gymnasium, you will be able to study in every field you want to or visit an university. If you finish the Realschule, you will be able to study MOST jobs. And lastly, if you finish the Hauptschule, you will (in most cases) only be able to work in low paying "no-brainer" jobs. That last point is a big flaw in the system, because it doesn't take children with ADHD, bad family backgrounds and such into consideration. There are other options for such children, but to explain that, I would need way more time and space than I have. Hope I could be of help, have a beautiful day, good sir =)

    • @Elisabeth4844
      @Elisabeth4844 Před 5 lety +3

      And now the interests of the corporations ARE the government!

  • @Onlera
    @Onlera Před 3 lety +7

    Fun exercise, I paused the vid at 13:21 and looked at the test questions he had on screen. Just based on the very basic explanation he gave, you can tell that the questions don’t make sense.

  • @jessierabbit
    @jessierabbit Před 3 lety +5

    I took the SAT's a couple years back in high school when I was a junior. Now I'm not a mathematician or anything, but I'm pretty decent at math, especially algebra and trigonometry. Now you can understand my complete and utter confusion when solving a very simple algebra question on the SAT where none of the correct answers are listed. I talked to my friends after about it, and they also said they were confused. On top of that, there was also a calculus question that was wrong (I was in precalc at the time, so I couldn't solve it anyway). How do you even answer a question correctly when they're wrong to begin with????