Masochistic. He made this in 2021. He said on his Twitch stream that he wrote this when he was furious with his old management team. He basically wanted to destroy everything, even things that were considered “good “ or that he loved and tried to help him. Also, he was lashing out at his illness. It’s pretty brave of him to put this song out there….like he said, there’s gonna be a lot of offended people and he might lose subs and fans.
I've seen a few reactors so far got hung up on the 'sexual gratification' part of the literal definition of masochist. In colloquial use, a masochist can also refer to people who seem to seek out painful situations or who feel they are unworthy of being happy and that they should suffer or be punished, or those who are in a self-destructive spiral. Just like when you refer to someone as sadistic, the counterpart to masochism, you're not actually accusing them of deriving sexual pleasure from causing pain, but are inferring that they go around and cause pain to others as if it brings them joy, or that they are a corrosive influence, undermining and destroying those around them.
As he said on his Twitch stream after the drop... "self destructive". His community post says it all. If I were Ren and were dealt those cards, I too would be cursing everything. People have waves of emotion... they pass and later go back to homeostasis. This was obviously written before that emotion passed. In "Hi Ren" he says "there were victims and there were students" When you suffer you cycle between these 2 things. At the time he would have been feeling like a victim (and rightfully so!). Killer song as always 🔥🔥🔥🔥💕
Oh, I'd just like to add... "masochist" doesn't necessarily always relate to sexual gratification but can be a more general feeling of pleasure from self inflicted pain or pain from others (emotional or physical).
Masochist (in general use) a person who enjoys an activity that appears to be painful or tedious. "what kind of masochist would take part in such an experiment?"
I think this part of a bigger story "character" or the monster he mentions in "The Hunger" Animal flow, illest, murderer. All the videos that have the pig in them.
It also means someone who enjoys pain, or who derives pleasure from harming oneself or being harmed by others. Someone who obtains pleasure from receiving punishment.
This song is an interesting one! It's an angry song, definitely self-destructive. But it also has the idea of reincarnating until nirvana (it's often translated as bliss) is reached. Almost like he knows what he needs to do, but because he's a masochist he's also "killing" the good things too. His support system, the people who inspire him, ect. Such an interesting song. It's definitely in a couple of my playlists now 😂
Masochist in another common use is often applied to those that simply bring unessassary pain on themselves . It does not have to be sexual pleasure. I don't see why he would lose subs over this. If you think about it, everything he lists here we as humans have done. Take the line " kill the one upon the cross ". The story goes that is exactly what was done to him. For me, this is a lot of Kali energy, the Goddess that tears, stomps, rages and burns everthing down. According to that story she even demolishes Shiva, her consort husband. Kali is a feminine aspect of Shiva and he could not act without her assistance. Sometimes you have to burn everything down in order to rebuild or go forward.
Why do so many Americans not understand metaphor, irony or poetic licence? It's baffling, considering free speech is such a fetish of American culture...
During my first watch I didn’t enjoy this song even though I am a Ren fan. I understand and appreciate the criticism and critique of western civilization and society. This just seemed too at first too dark to me which may seem to be the point especially from the breadcrumbs of the trail from previous song releases which provides context. There seems to be no playfulness which also maybe the point. Ok, after watching several reactions I can see Ren is being playful with the beats, flow, cultural references, and of course word play. But REN’s choice of words in his lyrics shows how dark Ren’s eternal dance and mental state has been. As expected Knox’s, Cliff bests, Black Pegasus, yours, and other reactors and their analysis 🧐 on Ren’s lyrics and flow has been enlightening. This song is not something I would choose listen to on repeat often because of the violent nature of his choice of violent words. Darkness concentrated. Even though his use of kill seems so violent at first it is also what humans as a whole on this planet 🌍 are doing both by individuals, groups, tribes, governments, corporations, organizations, organizatized religions, and cults.
4 songs he sings like rappers drops KRS-1, METHOD MAN, NWA, EMINEM! FYI TOO THE PIC HIM WITH GUITAR IS HOMAGE FAMOUS JOHNNY CASH PHOTO!!!(((( i came to bring the pain is method man, woop woop famous hip hop by krs-1, obviously straight outta //compton...is NWA, and last, my name is...by eminem...)))) i expose so called hip hop heads not knowing these 4 he ren mentions!!! FYI TOO, making funiture outta bones what killer ed gein did! too FYI He wrote this in 2021 He said on live Twitch stream i watched that he was pissed over past stuff/ppl...
Masochistic. He made this in 2021. He said on his Twitch stream that he wrote this when he was furious with his old management team. He basically wanted to destroy everything, even things that were considered “good “ or that he loved and tried to help him. Also, he was lashing out at his illness. It’s pretty brave of him to put this song out there….like he said, there’s gonna be a lot of offended people and he might lose subs and fans.
I've seen a few reactors so far got hung up on the 'sexual gratification' part of the literal definition of masochist. In colloquial use, a masochist can also refer to people who seem to seek out painful situations or who feel they are unworthy of being happy and that they should suffer or be punished, or those who are in a self-destructive spiral. Just like when you refer to someone as sadistic, the counterpart to masochism, you're not actually accusing them of deriving sexual pleasure from causing pain, but are inferring that they go around and cause pain to others as if it brings them joy, or that they are a corrosive influence, undermining and destroying those around them.
As he said on his Twitch stream after the drop... "self destructive". His community post says it all. If I were Ren and were dealt those cards, I too would be cursing everything. People have waves of emotion... they pass and later go back to homeostasis. This was obviously written before that emotion passed. In "Hi Ren" he says "there were victims and there were students" When you suffer you cycle between these 2 things. At the time he would have been feeling like a victim (and rightfully so!). Killer song as always 🔥🔥🔥🔥💕
I think that "kill this" lines are about getting pleaser/pain out of killing the things you love. Keep up the awesome work, Dave!
He explained where he was coming from with this song on stream and in his community tab on youtube even further. It is really interesting.
DAVE.. YOU GOT IT... He unalived himself so he could rise and live in the pain he suffers.. If you don't learn to live with the pain you die.
I think he's talking about destroying all the authorities and dogmas that try to tell us who to be and how to be.
Oh, I'd just like to add... "masochist" doesn't necessarily always relate to sexual gratification but can be a more general feeling of pleasure from self inflicted pain or pain from others (emotional or physical).
I see this as Catharsis, great reaction 👍
The OJ bar. Hehehe. REN saying he gunna allow you to get a way with murder lol.
Masochist
(in general use) a person who enjoys an activity that appears to be painful or tedious.
"what kind of masochist would take part in such an experiment?"
"i paid good money for that mattress. C'mon man!" 😂
I think this part of a bigger story "character" or the monster he mentions in "The Hunger"
Animal flow, illest, murderer.
All the videos that have the pig in them.
"I paid good money for that mattress" 😂
Love this one one of my favourites ❤ by Ren x
When I tell you I’m obsessed with this song 😂love it 🖤
I would love to see a hip hop dance routine with this track
I love how he choped up the word mattress as he told you he was chopping up the mattress
"According to the Buddha, attachment can lead to suffering and hinder spiritual growth. To overcome attachment, you can cultivate non-attachment."
More and more on this hip hop string of tracks, I’m getting more of a musical project vibe. Very similar to how Die Antwoord approach their music
Except that Die Antwoord is trailer park trash.
It also means someone who enjoys pain, or who derives pleasure from harming oneself or being harmed by others.
Someone who obtains pleasure from receiving punishment.
This is a great track!! Thanks for promoting Ren's artistry!!
This song is an interesting one! It's an angry song, definitely self-destructive. But it also has the idea of reincarnating until nirvana (it's often translated as bliss) is reached. Almost like he knows what he needs to do, but because he's a masochist he's also "killing" the good things too. His support system, the people who inspire him, ect. Such an interesting song. It's definitely in a couple of my playlists now 😂
Masochist in another common use is often applied to those that simply bring unessassary pain on themselves . It does not have to be sexual pleasure.
I don't see why he would lose subs over this. If you think about it, everything he lists here we as humans have done. Take the line " kill the one upon the cross ". The story goes that is exactly what was done to him. For me, this is a lot of Kali energy, the Goddess that tears, stomps, rages and burns everthing down. According to that story she even demolishes Shiva, her consort husband. Kali is a feminine aspect of Shiva and he could not act without her assistance. Sometimes you have to burn everything down in order to rebuild or go forward.
Sado masochism is deriving sexual pleasure. Masochism is just pleasure from pain.
Sometimes we create things that we should later burn and stir the ashes.
poor matt-eh-ress
Why do so many Americans not understand metaphor, irony or poetic licence? It's baffling, considering free speech is such a fetish of American culture...
I don't get. it either, so you are not alone
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During my first watch I didn’t enjoy this song even though I am a Ren fan. I understand and appreciate the criticism and critique of western civilization and society. This just seemed too at first too dark to me which may seem to be the point especially from the breadcrumbs of the trail from previous song releases which provides context. There seems to be no playfulness which also maybe the point. Ok, after watching several reactions I can see Ren is being playful with the beats, flow, cultural references, and of course word play.
But REN’s choice of words in his lyrics shows how dark Ren’s eternal dance and mental state has been.
As expected Knox’s, Cliff bests, Black Pegasus, yours, and other reactors and their analysis 🧐 on Ren’s lyrics and flow has been enlightening. This song is not something I would choose listen to on repeat often because of the violent nature of his choice of violent words. Darkness concentrated.
Even though his use of kill seems so violent at first it is also what humans as a whole on this planet 🌍 are doing both by individuals, groups, tribes, governments, corporations, organizations, organizatized religions, and cults.
Im about to get trashed, this song was misnamed. Nothing about this is a "masochist"
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Sounds more like a psychopath than a masochist.
4 songs he sings like rappers drops KRS-1, METHOD MAN, NWA, EMINEM! FYI TOO THE PIC HIM WITH GUITAR IS HOMAGE FAMOUS JOHNNY CASH PHOTO!!!(((( i came to bring the pain is method man, woop woop famous hip hop by krs-1, obviously straight outta //compton...is NWA, and last, my name is...by eminem...)))) i expose so called hip hop heads not knowing these 4 he ren mentions!!! FYI TOO, making funiture outta bones what killer ed gein did! too FYI He wrote this in 2021 He said on live Twitch stream i watched that he was pissed over past stuff/ppl...