Interesting video; but your description of the retrieval practice itself (starting at 3:14) is not so clear to me : 1) what do you mean by "language islands" ? 2) you refer 80/20 but it is not clear to me which parts of the process you are describing should represent 80% and 20% Thanks in advance for your clarifications and thanks for this video !
The more I listen to you, the more I am motivated to keep doing what I'm doing. It's so simple. However, it requires hard work, but it's way better than doing something that doesn't make any sense. Thanks a lot!
... antes de 'enseñar' como aprender debes pulir tu inglés que es bastante deficiente sobre todo en la pronunciación. Debes lograr hacer el 'linking' entre frases de manera más fluida y tener en cuenta la reducción vocálica y el uso de la 'schwa' ... recuerda que el inglés es un 'stress-timed language' ... estás utilizando la prosodia del español y eso crea un acento bien fuerte. Saludos desde Miami ... !!!
This dude’s articulation of English is on par and prolly better than the majority of natives. You’re right in that his accent is there, but I at least don’t put too much thought to it when the person is talking sense.
@@bantorio6525 escribes como un adolescente semianalfabeto. Vivir en Miami no significa que hables ingles bien. Viendo como escribes, tu castellano hablado tambien es sin duda penoso. Dudo que puedas terminar una frase en ningun idioma sin usar media docena de filler words.
@@NaturalLanguageLearning ... ... reaccionas y exhalas rabia por todas partes (tratas de descalificarme diciéndome 'adolescente analfabeto' ... deberías ser más cuidadoso y tomar ventaja de las observaciones que te hago). El que se vende como 'experto' y pretende dar lecciones eres tú y das pena. Creo que nunca te has grabado y oído lo mal que hablas, o a lo mejor sí, pero no tienes la capacidad de detectar lo mal que lo haces. Que te compre quien no te conozca ... quisieras tú hablar el 'ínglich' la mitad de lo bien que lo hablo. Yo no tengo nada que demostrar, pero tú sí, que quieres vivir del cuento ... !!! ... 'hyperpolíglota' ... ??? ... jajajá ... hiper-qué ... ??? ... ni siquieras hablas bien 'ínglich' siendo el más difundido de todos ... !!!
El acento se nota pero un acento no es fuerte si todos lo entienden sin dificultad Su manera de hablar inglés resulta más fácil de entender que la manera en que hablan español los cubanos de Miami y hasta sería más fácil que entenderte a ti en español si yo no supiera inglés ya que te cuesta expresarte en español sin mezclar innecesariamente palabras de inglés en un idioma con un léxico tan amplio como español
Does it have to be such a tedious process without any context and integration of one's own flow of thoughts? If efficiency is not the goal, it's really not that hard to improve speaking skills these days. Simply envision scenarios you might encounter and mentally express whatever you want to say in your target language. If you struggle with new words or specific expressions, utilize AI or Google Translate to help bridge that gap. Keep practicing these scenarios with different imaginary figures or familiar people from social media in mind until you become so comfortable with those expressions that they come to you naturally. I also find that writing comments can be very beneficial. In writing, I can slow down my thoughts to refine my word choice. With the assistance of AI, I can even learn to paraphrase my speech in various styles. However, I’ve noticed that these methods don’t always guarantee the best outcomes. To achieve a fluid expression, it's crucial to enhance your listening comprehension to the point where you can distinguish every sound made by native speakers. By observing and syncing with people you resonate with, over time you'll find yourself speaking and acting like them, even quoting their words occasionally. Throughout my language journey, I’ve realized that the intention to speak the language as if it were your mother tongue is essential. Without this mindset, your progress may stagnate. We humans often fear social rejection, which compels us to communicate in ways that are likable and respectable. No one wants to feel foolish by sounding inadequate. This is partly why the intention to live in a native background or have a native partner can be so motivational. However, when we start to think, "My language skills are good enough," our proficiency may plateau. This complacency can be unsettling when we encounter others who excel, reminding us of our own stagnation.
'Simply envision scenarios you might encounter and mentally express whatever you want to say in your target language.' That is not really effective. Speaking is a skill that also involves listening. You practice speaking by well, speaking. So envisioning it is not enough. But to some extend, you are right. Practicing scenarios you commonly encounter in your daily life is super useful so I agree with you on that point. This is also why Language Islands and verbal retrieval practice are so effective. Writing does not really help speaking, especially not in languages where you do not fully comprehend the writing system. Furthermore, writing and speaking require both translation, yes, however, writing needs orthography whereas speaking needs pronunciation. Similar skills but different so for speaking specifically, that is not that beneficial in my eyes. But intention is very important. You are totally right. Observing and imitating people you like is always are good idea. That is why listening and repeating drills are so effective. It is all about the motivation. If someone wants to become fluent, not doing effective strats is not really it. But even doing some flashcards every day is a lot.
@@samu4803 Thank you for reading my lengthy comment and for giving such a thoughtful reply. I notice a misunderstanding here that I would like to clarify. Although I use the word "writing," I don’t mean it literally. For example, I’ve been learning Russian recently. I don’t have a Russian keyboard and find it tedious to type Russian letters, so I speak Russian sentence by sentence to Google Translate to get the text for my comment, which can also be further revised through AI for mistakes I'm unaware of. The point is to take advantage of a topic to initiate a sequence of mental actions that serves as practice for the flow of thoughts in the target language. Since it’s not a conversation, I can take my time to make better choices of words and shape my style of expression. So, you can still write comments and practice speaking without actually knowing much about the writing system nowadays. As for internal speaking practice, it’s not news that many people maintain their foreign language ability through internal verbal thoughts anyway. I don’t think it’s the final step to oral fluency, but from my experience, it’s part of the process for those who don’t want to practice with real people for various reasons. It has a certain magic that facilitates the flow of language, despite the frequent complaint of mouth failure in catching up with thoughts. This often leaves its benefits unmentioned-the resilient eloquence. You know, words that are spoken can’t be unsaid. A habit that is memorized by a muscle takes great conscious energy to reshape, while changing a habit in the mind only requires a shift of spiritual vibe. In conclusion, initiate with the mind and cement with the muscle. It makes sense and works well, saving people from the pain of constipation in speaking.😏 All roads lead to Rome, but motivation drives achievement. I guess, a cheerleader works better than a lifecoach.😂
Interesting video;
but your description of the retrieval practice itself (starting at 3:14) is not so clear to me :
1) what do you mean by "language islands" ?
2) you refer 80/20 but it is not clear to me which parts of the process you are describing should represent 80% and 20%
Thanks in advance for your clarifications and thanks for this video !
He describes what language islands are 10 seconds later.
The more I listen to you, the more I am motivated to keep doing what I'm doing. It's so simple. However, it requires hard work, but it's way better than doing something that doesn't make any sense. Thanks a lot!
Also there are a lot of new AI voice recognition models that you can speak to. They aren’t perfect but I can help build initial confidence
you forgot the word language in the title
So with all the sentences you create using language islands, make them into a anki style flash cards ?
Yes exactly
... antes de 'enseñar' como aprender debes pulir tu inglés que es bastante deficiente sobre todo en la pronunciación. Debes lograr hacer el 'linking' entre frases de manera más fluida y tener en cuenta la reducción vocálica y el uso de la 'schwa' ... recuerda que el inglés es un 'stress-timed language' ... estás utilizando la prosodia del español y eso crea un acento bien fuerte. Saludos desde Miami ... !!!
This dude’s articulation of English is on par and prolly better than the majority of natives. You’re right in that his accent is there, but I at least don’t put too much thought to it when the person is talking sense.
@@zimabluecascade ... "better than the majority of natives" ... are you out of your mind ? ... you definitely know nothing ... !!! ...
@@bantorio6525 escribes como un adolescente semianalfabeto. Vivir en Miami no significa que hables ingles bien. Viendo como escribes, tu castellano hablado tambien es sin duda penoso. Dudo que puedas terminar una frase en ningun idioma sin usar media docena de filler words.
@@NaturalLanguageLearning ... ... reaccionas y exhalas rabia por todas partes (tratas de descalificarme diciéndome 'adolescente analfabeto' ... deberías ser más cuidadoso y tomar ventaja de las observaciones que te hago). El que se vende como 'experto' y pretende dar lecciones eres tú y das pena. Creo que nunca te has grabado y oído lo mal que hablas, o a lo mejor sí, pero no tienes la capacidad de detectar lo mal que lo haces. Que te compre quien no te conozca ... quisieras tú hablar el 'ínglich' la mitad de lo bien que lo hablo. Yo no tengo nada que demostrar, pero tú sí, que quieres vivir del cuento ... !!! ... 'hyperpolíglota' ... ??? ... jajajá ... hiper-qué ... ??? ... ni siquieras hablas bien 'ínglich' siendo el más difundido de todos ... !!!
El acento se nota pero un acento no es fuerte si todos lo entienden sin dificultad
Su manera de hablar inglés resulta más fácil de entender que la manera en que hablan español los cubanos de Miami y hasta sería más fácil que entenderte a ti en español si yo no supiera inglés ya que te cuesta expresarte en español sin mezclar innecesariamente palabras de inglés en un idioma con un léxico tan amplio como español
Correct the video title
Does it have to be such a tedious process without any context and integration of one's own flow of thoughts? If efficiency is not the goal, it's really not that hard to improve speaking skills these days. Simply envision scenarios you might encounter and mentally express whatever you want to say in your target language. If you struggle with new words or specific expressions, utilize AI or Google Translate to help bridge that gap. Keep practicing these scenarios with different imaginary figures or familiar people from social media in mind until you become so comfortable with those expressions that they come to you naturally.
I also find that writing comments can be very beneficial. In writing, I can slow down my thoughts to refine my word choice. With the assistance of AI, I can even learn to paraphrase my speech in various styles. However, I’ve noticed that these methods don’t always guarantee the best outcomes. To achieve a fluid expression, it's crucial to enhance your listening comprehension to the point where you can distinguish every sound made by native speakers. By observing and syncing with people you resonate with, over time you'll find yourself speaking and acting like them, even quoting their words occasionally.
Throughout my language journey, I’ve realized that the intention to speak the language as if it were your mother tongue is essential. Without this mindset, your progress may stagnate. We humans often fear social rejection, which compels us to communicate in ways that are likable and respectable. No one wants to feel foolish by sounding inadequate. This is partly why the intention to live in a native background or have a native partner can be so motivational. However, when we start to think, "My language skills are good enough," our proficiency may plateau. This complacency can be unsettling when we encounter others who excel, reminding us of our own stagnation.
'Simply envision scenarios you might encounter and mentally express whatever you want to say in your target language.'
That is not really effective.
Speaking is a skill that also involves listening. You practice speaking by well, speaking. So envisioning it is not enough.
But to some extend, you are right. Practicing scenarios you commonly encounter in your daily life is super useful so I agree with you on that point. This is also why Language Islands and verbal retrieval practice are so effective.
Writing does not really help speaking, especially not in languages where you do not fully comprehend the writing system. Furthermore, writing and speaking require both translation, yes, however, writing needs orthography whereas speaking needs pronunciation. Similar skills but different so for speaking specifically, that is not that beneficial in my eyes.
But intention is very important. You are totally right.
Observing and imitating people you like is always are good idea.
That is why listening and repeating drills are so effective.
It is all about the motivation. If someone wants to become fluent, not doing effective strats is not really it. But even doing some flashcards every day is a lot.
@@samu4803 Thank you for reading my lengthy comment and for giving such a thoughtful reply. I notice a misunderstanding here that I would like to clarify. Although I use the word "writing," I don’t mean it literally. For example, I’ve been learning Russian recently. I don’t have a Russian keyboard and find it tedious to type Russian letters, so I speak Russian sentence by sentence to Google Translate to get the text for my comment, which can also be further revised through AI for mistakes I'm unaware of. The point is to take advantage of a topic to initiate a sequence of mental actions that serves as practice for the flow of thoughts in the target language. Since it’s not a conversation, I can take my time to make better choices of words and shape my style of expression. So, you can still write comments and practice speaking without actually knowing much about the writing system nowadays.
As for internal speaking practice, it’s not news that many people maintain their foreign language ability through internal verbal thoughts anyway. I don’t think it’s the final step to oral fluency, but from my experience, it’s part of the process for those who don’t want to practice with real people for various reasons. It has a certain magic that facilitates the flow of language, despite the frequent complaint of mouth failure in catching up with thoughts. This often leaves its benefits unmentioned-the resilient eloquence. You know, words that are spoken can’t be unsaid. A habit that is memorized by a muscle takes great conscious energy to reshape, while changing a habit in the mind only requires a shift of spiritual vibe. In conclusion, initiate with the mind and cement with the muscle. It makes sense and works well, saving people from the pain of constipation in speaking.😏
All roads lead to Rome, but motivation drives achievement. I guess, a cheerleader works better than a lifecoach.😂
Yea ai character.