The HEATED ARGUMENT with RATIRL and a Twitch Chatter ft. Drututt
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so nice to see two silver players trying to improve together by reviewing the game
*Gets excited over new Rat video*
*It's 20 minutes of him raging with no gameplay*
Ah
Perfect video, get's to engage with the brainlets of the league community.
Fake fan
honestly i kind of like it, its different
20 minutes of aggressive rat noises is not my proudest fap but definitely not my worst
@@Chinchillys mtg players playing rat tribal: First time?
Drututt analyzed it so fast and legit said 1:1 everything . actually the biggest paid act i've ever seen, shit was so so so good and funny they win
am i dumb our you type some thing and some things you say in head
@@kolekcjonerbotow1266 yes
Ik youre probably jokin but Rats right on thee high elo thing.
A lot of low elo players analyze individual strenght without thinking about the strenght of the enemy, is why youll get a Jinx saying "we scale" even tho enemy team has a fed Veigar, Kayle and Kassadin
@@gearguts7259 I am "probably" joking i think yes
@@PrimedTales Sorry man too used to braindead YT takes
he is so tilted the editor did not even bother to censor the shit 💀
Cant believe he didnt just kill them all. Its like he doenst even WANT to win at times...
I know exactly what you mean
i felt that
it's not about taking action when the opportunity presents itself, it's about running it every game until you finally win two in a row
it's like I know what you mean
I was so surprised in multiple levels, how do you accept Discord this confidently but lose all of it the moment youre asked for OPGG
"link opgg" is my strongest argument
And when he ran out of arguments just resorted to "try lol, maybe there's a 1% chance you win".
He's the guy who votes no when you're getting gigastomped 30 - 2
@@webaazul2500 never ff
@@h0mbie608 i dont know how its a strong argument if people can just link fake accounts, if you're not challenger yourself you won't know if its really him or not.
@@igouliliaszerone8967 Disgusting pig desperate for LP :)
Thank your Mr. Rat for teaching me how to kite my dad's belt, now I have been locked up for 20 years due to assault and thus Im not able to feed my league addiction
glowie
Just Jax E
You know you messed up when a guy who haven't read 90% of abilities in League is schooling you
All you have to do is look at him struggling to kill just the jarvan by himself at the end to see he had zero chance killing all 5….
Old ratirl pentakills this in 3 seconds ggez
@@petarveljkovic4906 rip ad twitch / old lethal tempo :(
doesnt have a chance to defend base 1v5 anyway so might aswell just fight but ye its lost anyway
@@prezesfenu he has more of a chance of stalling the game then he did of trying to 1v5 them
@@Kaserbeam if enemy team is bots then ye maybe
Drutt just solved everything. The high elo gap is huge.
It's nice of this guy to write a script, film gameplay, and orchestrate an argument between himself and an AI to replicate our once beloved personality of the late streamer, Anton. Thank you for your efforts to make me laugh one more time. RIP Rat.
the druttut script was insane
as a challenged player i think you trolled that
Link op GG :3
@@ramen9141 he said he is challenged. HAHA
@@ramen9141 seems like u are the washed player here
rat beefing with randoms as per usual
Arent u a random as well?
@@PositiveThoughts906 We all are
rat beefing whit people that look at him is amazing imagine the person that gets you a sport car you talk like he is trash and you treat him like he's "silver" because your boosted ego
@@gamerulrafihd55 mad?
@@gamerulrafihd55 imagine you're telling messi he didn't try hard enough to win while he's getting paid millions from all the fans supporting him, while you peaked in middle school football trying to backseat XD
nice to see rats habbit of arguing with the lows doesn't only apply to twitter
i think its incredible they can still think they are right even tho rat and drut literally explain in detail why the play would be sht
Amazing that AI has come so far and we can still enjoy these streams even though he is gone
Fly high Mr earl
🕊🕊🕊🕊
Ai helps us cope
Its too bad that Doctor Ulysses Tutt (Dr. U. Tutt) couldn't save him; It was already too late.
@@penjamin1479 HAHAHAHA good one LMAO
Yep, it was too late even for risky and invasive Doannell operation.
==>
I heard that Dr. Drut didn't want give up Rat 🐀 life (fly high
So funny le dead meme hahahahahahhahaha
Rat arguing with pisslows must be the funniest shit ever, its just like hes getting baited every single time man HAHHAHA
This is so wholesome, rat chatting with his viewers :)
This is unironically how a lot of League players think. Like they lack the understanding of how ADC as a role works and they are just like "just fight, maybe we can win if we fight".
He was ap twitch mid bro
dawg its ap twitch.
@@mateuszwezik5290 and? How is that gonna change the outcome of the fight?
@@BS-se4yg the champ does 1k on 1 ability and then 1 k over time
@@grovehoLP and?
12:20 the moment rat explode
I think if Rat was at the upper right side of the team fight he MIGHT have had a chance to take 3% of Jarvans health before he is instantly one shot by the remainder of the team.
He couldn't do anything about the fight, it was for sure lost. I understand the chatter saying why not just try because it is lost. The phrase go down swinging comes to mind. Him saying that rat threw the fight in chat was wrong and you could tell by what the chatter was saying, that he agreed he was wrong saying that. Spending 20 minutes trying to prove you are right instead of just disagreeing when you are the stronger player is the RATIRL special.
He literally didn't give up on the game, he went back to try and stall for his team so they could keep fighting that's arguably more like "going down swinging" than just engaging and dying because your team did a bad and guaranteeing the loss
@@NovaTheVERmin bad players cannot tell good plays, period
@@NovaTheVERmin Yeah which is also completely a losing play with 50-second death timers, that would have been the right play if the game had been at say 20 minutes but at that point, unless you are a giga fed late game carry, there is absolutely no way you defend your base. Engaging and dying at least acts like a gambit and creates more chaos,(more chance of the enemy making mistakes) in the game compared just going back to base which won't ever stop the enemy because you can't stall out 2 minion waves.
@@Hejon25 your really underestimating ap twitchs waveclear......
@@malmro2216He needs to clear two waves, not one, and the enemy will chase him to their base so he never gets a chance to clear even the first one. Then even if he succeeds, he will have to die for it, another minion wave will come and the game is lost.
I think more backseaters should be put on the spot like this. This was awesome to watch
rat is even at the wrong angle to apply poison with R, EVEN THEN THEY WOULD LOSE THAT FIGHT
sona presses zonyas, jax gets ontop of rat, rat dies, enemy has ~50% hp left after E hits everyone
even with a perfect setup, they would still lose that fight XD
THE ONLY realistic angle would be to have vision on tristana and kill her before her supports reacts, but that's a fking stretch and a half if anything.
The point is feel is that doing nothing loses the game. At that point you just hope Tristana is braindead or afk and just try to kill sona and seraphine Quick and then see if they can win a 3v2 with Heimer and Camille or at least escape.
@@sergeistalin7916 it's only guaranteed lost because we know jarvan chased down rat, he could have definitely defended & stalled time without J4's play.
if rat played as if every game was lost after 1 teamfight he wouldn't be able to be decently high elo while streaming, streaming while climbing is another layer of preassure.
the game was lost no matter what anyone does because rat's team lost in champ select & only had a small window to finish before enemy teamcomp got to a sizeable monstrosity.
I've never been his early for anything in my life, and it has to be on a video with an AI generated person who died so many months ago...
can you explain this im new here
@@filipesilva7581 the owner of this channel passed in an accident, his channel is now ran by a friend who uses ai to replicate his voice
15:39 Lmao drut already knows without even watching the fight go down
Sometimes it's just timing, or where you are. But here ?
Sona Seraphine, soak up half if not his entire ult dmg minimum. He doesn't have void to lower mr per level.
Jax hard counters pikachu Camille and the Twitch. J4 got his combo on a 5 sec cd. And he can perma zone him out with his 130 mr.
Donger doesn't have liandry, camille got a useless sterak that has no use cause no resistances... And Seju is a non factor.
All of that means that the only target that can be bursted down is tristana. And she's already at the point where she can burst him faster. That's it. Everything else requires at least 3 second of Zeri and him hitting the target. Without any sona sera shields.
They got a pick comp, they're facing a dive / front to back comp. That is both ahead on very lane except rat and with soul.
Only way for them to win was to make picks and if they got this late without doing so, well game is over.
I'm terrible at the game, but i mean that's not hard to get.
I haven’t played this game in 2 years I haven’t watched a video on this in about the same time… thank you for reminding me not to fall into the jaws of temptation
hopefully aaron will upload more archived argument clips of rat
i miss him, RIP mr earl
"What rank are you?"
*pause* "uh peak master"
"show me"
"no"
most trustworthy chatter
So the fight got fucked for ratirl and his team.
And there were 2 choices in the argumentation;
1: Die with honor and definitely lose the game.
2: Survive and have a slim chance of stalling the game. (Which unfortunately failed as well)
Ratirl decided to do what he did, but that doesn't mean he singlehandly "trolled" the fight as implied. After have consumed this specific scenario... I like the second choice more for a very slim chance of coming back.
My silver ass would've "died with honor" cus I probably wouldn't even have thought about other options in the heat of the moment (hence, 1/many factors as to why I am still silver).
The only thing he couldve done differently that wouldve mattered is not using W on hextech portal but on the choke between red wall and baron wall
i would link rat my smurf iron 2 account. gigachad move
That guy was 100 percent trolling for content, Mr.Earl you usually detect that so easily how did you fell for that rage bait ?
Good content though!
Not to mention J4 had a GA and wasn’t taking shit for damage literally in your nexus 😭 it’s crazy how he typed that after all that happened too
Imagine your whole shpeel being “just try and do damage 4head” 😭
Technically it could have gone better, if his team disengaged and that instead of using his Z on the portal, he used it on the narrow path to block them all, but once used and with the way things were going, it was pretty much doomed already. Nice shot for seeing the trist on his part though, I'm pretty sure it wasn't the easiest thing to see
that guy is an exact resamblance of your average 50 iq soloq team mates, the kda part is even more spot on and had me rolling on the floor as i was laughing my ass off.
the biggest silver belief is that if you dont help in a fight no matter the circumstances its ur fault if the game is lost
one of the many ways they avoid taking responsibility for their games
Letting enemy get a 4 man seraphine and sona r in high elo should be bannable
@@malmro2216 that was indeed very hard to watch
I was wondering why he hadn't uploaded for 4 days but then I remembered this was the last stream before the crash so the editor must be out of content from old streams... so sad this will be the last time we hear his voice but the journey was amazing.
I never saw him that mad/angry... Actually, he was right he couldn't do anything about that fight.
You must've missed that one Master Yi video from a year or two back then. THAT was peak rage.
@@lauruva4314 oh really I'm gonna check that video too then. Thank youu ❤️
@@lauruva4314 link
watch his older videos where he duos with Yamato
he's 1000000x better than everybody in his chat combined so ofc hes angry that everybody is always schooling him on what he did wrong
There nothing to try even if he open and somehow manage to kill 1 on them, the rest of his team is still useless and Rat would die after getting 1 pick. trying to catch mid wave was the best play there.
Wake up honey, new RatEarl video just dropped
lowkey sej threw that fight by popping blast cone early. had she not, jax would have either been knocked straight up or cc'd long enough for zeri to space-- potentially opening a new window of opportunity.
There is no way he could have ever won that fight lol
He trolled by getting caught by jarvan for free though. He didn’t even get to try to W the wave.
If the chatter backseated him for that he would have won the argument
@@owen551
That happened after the fight
And yeah, he got caught by Jarvan after two EQs and being slowed two times by Jarvan's W
He couldn't W the wave because Jarvan didn't let him do that
@@giomongta6961 Ye exactly so he couldn't do anything either way, let's Just stop pretending he could really clear a wave against a hextech soul jarvan sona jax without flash, please
@@Aris-zw5lj
I know but it was better than trying to win a 100% lost fight
@@Aris-zw5lj well its more likely that he gets to clear the wave than he winning the fight . The only thing u can blame him for is that he didnt dipp instantly and go to the wave but i think no one would have done that and why wouldnt he be able to clear the wave? pretty sure he dies for it but his W E or R would clear this wave
I’m subscribing to Drut now, what a knowledgeable player.
Just taking a crack at it, you should never path away from the base/team in this fight, you have no vision on Trist and the one teammate near you is practically 1 shot. You had time to go to your backline and path right past the choke they were flooding through. This would've put you furthest away from the choke point and lack of vision towards their side making Trist not a threat. At this point if Jarvan dives on you and ults, his team is pretty far away and you have zhonyas in case you need it. You're right that the fight was lost, but because of timers and objectives already taken there is literally 0 reason not to take this fight when you see your team is already squeezed, not to mention if your positioning was on right side instead of fight, even if you lost you could possibly escape, not that it would matter at that point.
It's easy rewatching the VOD to say what you could of done differently but at the end of the day you don't get challenger without being a good player, the truth is you did your best and even if you played it perfect it's not in your favor.
this is why riot won't add voice chat
Still respect for the guy having the balls to go into discord and link his opgg, even if he is a liar and not high elo
How is Master not a high elo
The only possible way I think he could've came out with a kill is if he had saw the Tristana and only went for her then left.
yeah I don't see how you stat check though Sona/sera in this ether ??? literally every champion in that bush has a shield ability, and they have double healer.
and 2 zhonyas and 1 seraphs and trist has every spell up
that laugh after some chatter said call cookie aged well
I guarantee he didnt see the trist and backtracked when he noticed
does he just ignore the fact that je DOESNT HAVE E until he is under his own tower ?
I understand where the guy is coming from. Rat leaving confirms the loss, however, him staying has an inkling of winning, sure it's absurdly low, but it's better than a confirmed loss. Leave(-), stay (- or +), which would you take with consideration that the stay option is heavily favored to the negative situation? Obviously Stay since there's a chance.
okay sure but you have to think about what happens after the fight, rats plan was to survive and stall out the game with W until his team is back alive which imo has a way higher chance of actually working compared to just going in for the giga low chance of winning the fight
I think the only chance to do something there is to stay in the bush at 0:34 and oneshot trist when she jumps in and then run towards toplane left and hope they greed instead of ending but I mean the fight is just lost gg.
You can just see how boosted Rat is…old Ratirl would pentakill this in 5 seconds ggez
This video made up of all what died inside of me after that tft video
Anton's plan to stall the game was 100% the play here. His team inted hard and there was no chance he could kill more than one guy. Brainlet max d4 eune peak viewer.
The best option was to disengage with the blast cone early
He even sounds like a 16 yo backseat kid lol
He is
3:47 Wokege
He could've just killed the seraphine whit no cd's and no Zhonyas. The Heimer would just E the tristana while she tried to kill ratirl then ratirl would flash the wall, Q and escape
Idk man all you needed was the power of friendship to overcome the game state
Thanks mr Earl now I know how to troll Teamfights even harder
Its like Mike Tyson and Muhammed Ali were fighting an army and Tyson sees Ali getting fucked and runs away to grab a gun instead of just jumping in but he gets cought while running there and some guy tells him bro you trolled just fight the army
FIRST video in a while where they dont make the dead rat meme im so happy
Quack Doctor (Silver Player) vs Dr. Ututt (Top 10 LB many times with 5 Challenger Accounts)
(4 of 5 dies instantly)
This emotional fellow: Why haven't you tried at least? 😢
He's trying to say that it's trolling not to try to win that fight but the thing is rat has enough experience and game knowledge to know the fight isn't winnable this is just knowledge diff of low elo just limit testing and high elo just knowing there limits
pokimane would have penta’d
based
Dr ututt was right on what he was trying to tell, even if you get 6 stack and E, literally noone of them dies, with sera shields, sona heals, seraph embrace etc..
when even drutt is not teasing rat about it and agrees with him, you know that its a braindead comment xd
Rats twitch chat must have brain damage.
Holy fuck now I see why people are stuck low elo, league player brain. "JUST TRY MAYBE WIN"
How is there even an argument xD its obvious this is a lost game
"2005 Rat pentas here" LMAO
half of the chat laughing while being hardstuck gold #feeelsbadman
This guy's logic: "You trolled because you didn't die with your team to save your KDA"
Meanwhile, at that time, the best play is to run away and try to delay minion waves in hopes that the enemy team cannot end or they do baron instead. With a clean ace, it's a guaranteed end-game push, but with Twitch alive, there is a small chance that the game doesn't end there.
Twitch has no chance of killing anyone here, let alone kill them all and carry the fight. Zhonyas on Jax and Sona, therefore it takes at least 3 seconds to kill them and get a reset. Jarvan has GA so there's another 4 seconds, they all have massive shields and heals, Seraphine has like a 600 shield on Seraphs. The only target that could potentially get 1 shot is Tristana, who isn't in the fight at the beginning and would one-shot Twitch before Twitch ever kills her anyway.
true facts
How hes going to delay minion waves when they have a p3d0 Jax and a beta cuck Jarvan, he dies anyway
He literally got destroyed by jarvan alone, how the fuck Is he supposed to clear waves 1v5 you are more delusional than the guy that said he could do anything in that fight
Seeing all that goes on in just that wuick fight and druttut seeing al that within seconds of joining... Damn you can learn a lot from this
Ofc he’s french
Jokes on me thinking a new RatIRL vid was out…
glad to bee there
well the other guy was just talking shit in twitch chat, but after that he tried to say "why not fight? its lost anyway" which is much more understandable but the backseating is pretty bad
You loose 100% of the fights you don't take. Rat did not take the fight. Therefore rat lost the fight 100%
Still 99% chance to lost the fight after he take that it but 100% chance to lost fight and then try to go mid and stall the wave and have 10% to win the game what's better in your silver eyes?
@@phattarapolsungthong273 This isn't about winning the game, this is about winning the fight. And Mr. Rat chose to not participate in the fight, therefore losing the fight by default. This is in simple terms very simple probability calculations that any third grader can complete with relative ease. Even a bronze could understand that.
@@willevodka9701 the fight was lost already though? Rat’s participation would make no difference. The only way he wins that is if the entire enemy team unplug their computers. Surviving to clear the wave ironically has a better chance of letting them win the game. You are simplifying the situation by only focusing on the fight when winning the game takes precedence anyways.
What you are saying is comparable to a person staying on a sinking ship trying to patch up the thousands of holes it has rather than taking the higher chance of surviving by getting off the ship to swim to shore.
Amazing! The deep fake even copies angry Earl when Mr. Editor trolls in fights. Glide in heaven lil rodent.
THE LUCK OF GOD killed me
rat arguing with piss randoms will never not be my favorite content
love rat think, hes blessed streamer but its a bit off to be screaming at some random in chat over voice
The difference when someone with a functioning brain like Drut enters and instantly recognizes the situation while the plat peaker can't grasp it
Regardless, the viewer is actually right he just said it in a dumb way. You 100 percent lose if you don't try so at least fucking try. He shouldnt have said you just one shot everyone, he should have said just try to fight in general. The problem is that they are both right. It's a super shitty situation to enter as twitch but if you do nothing at all you just fucking lose. If the argument is you lose if you do nothing but maybe you can win if you do something then the person arguing the win angle is always in the right.
The best he could do is try to stop their push with his W, not fighting and dying with his team
@Giomon gta He for sure can't do that man, it's a fully stacked seraphine and sona, and they have all 5. They aren't afraid to dive him lol. The best thing he can do is fight here.
@@ChallengerAmenochiyuki
It has a better chance to sucess by just slowing them than trying to fight an 100% lost fight
Yeah it isn't likely he could sucess too because enemy team were ahead
Some games where you're losing are won not by fist fighting do you know this? Rat does. It makes sense to get mad when you're better than all of your chat combined and they think they know more than you
Drutut said one guyd😭😭
Only thing he trolled realistically was his W when jax crawled out the portal he definitely rushed it but it’s a fucking pdf champ so can u rlly blame him?
Also not even taking into account Double hextech drake plus soul into a Trist, Jax, and Sera, who all hella benefit from it and J4 + Sona enjoy the free ability haste.
i mean unironically when jax took the warp gate rat shouldve walked into his team instead of toward tri. that way he would be away from tristana, can stay in stealth until sona/sera use their ultis and ult over red buff wall. i didnt watch the vid just the fight so idk if rat talked about that but thats my immediate thought
@@zel2663 yeah just walk into jax e range what could go wrong
@@BKKJunE there was a blast cone which both him and heimer could have taken for far better positioning which tristana can't punish and pdf will struggle with because seju hard tanks both j4 and pdf before pdf took the hextech gate
him over wall where red is throwing W behind tanks to cut off sona seaphine would have done wonders because tristana needs 10 seconds to get to the fight and even if she entered camille could have gunned after her instead of pdf
him and heimer trolled positioning in that fight and whoever pinged after fight was well aware of that because heimer literally done 0 in that fight instead of him and rat zoning off sona seraphine with both posion and turrets inside red buff pit
also that heimer dark seal is just hideous,waste of 350 gold just like rat wastes gold on mejais instead of going for void to be able to shred tanks and do basically true damage into sona seraphine because they built 0 MR just like tristana
@@xthelord1668 What blast cone was he going to hit?? Sej hit the blast cone way before the fight started. Sej and Zeri died way too fast for twitch to even do anything. There's just no way you people think like this. Plus even if he somehow by the grace of God was on the same side as sej, he gets hit by sera r or sona r. If he shows himself, Jax and Jarvan kill him. If he wasn't on that side, Trist kills him. Like????
@@prod_kg i was legit thinking the same while i read this shit
addicted basement dweller argumenting with an addicted basement dweller feat. an addicted basement dweller
my fellow french bronze dude tilted rat so ez, he would have penta in your shoes fosure
They would have one hundred percent flashed on him and killed him instantly and Tristana would also rocket jump on him and nuke him.
That's the difference between a teamplayer mindset and a soloq player mindset. The french hav the first one but is bad at soloq because of that
The absolute moment I heard this guy's voice in diskord... 🤓🤓🤓
The amount of iron in comment replies is unreal holy
Don't yell at me D:
It’s like u guys were checkmated, don’t think u could’ve done much anyways
Tbh I get his point. He Means game is 100% lost. If he is dead or not enemy will end game so why not try anything. Even if you maybe kill 1 person. But ye saying he trolled was stupid