The Beginner's Guide: A Needlessly Thorough Analysis

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  • čas přidán 17. 06. 2024
  • I started writing this video in April of 2022. Over a year later, I present to you the result of many years of hyperfixation over the most puzzling and intriguing game I have ever played. I hope you guys enjoy it.
    Timestamps:
    0:00 Introduction
    3:37 How this Analysis Works
    7:33 The Beginning
    14:11 Whisper and Ascension
    21:06 Deceit
    28:31 Down
    45:08 Notes
    1:06:32 The House
    1:17:35 The Machine
    1:36:29 The Tower
    2:05:41 That Dark Space
    2:13:53 Conclusions
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Komentáře • 287

  • @Damit609
    @Damit609 Před 5 měsíci +145

    You know the funny thing is Davey is always judge Coda's personality/mental state through Coda's game and now when the game ended WE as a player now judge Davey through his game. Which really hit the point home for me ngl.

    • @oleksandrbespalov9713
      @oleksandrbespalov9713 Před 5 měsíci +9

      I've thought exactly the same thing. This video feels like a sequel to the game to me.

    • @AXharoth
      @AXharoth Před měsícem

      thats was the whole point /message of the game , imo

  • @electronic_rat
    @electronic_rat Před 2 měsíci +39

    I'm autistic and have a really hard time realizing when a narrator is unreliable because I tend to just take what they say at face value, so I didn't start feeling the dread that comes along with this game until Davey mentioned showing Coda's games to people. And even then it wasn't a full realization, just my personal anxiety of how I would feel if someone looked at my work without my permission. It was almost innocent to me, just an honest mistake a more extroverted person might make.
    It was an extremely slow realization for me and it didn't really hit me until I got to the notes directly addressing Davey from Coda. It's actually really hard for me to even hate Davey because I spent so long gleefully empathizing with him and even identifying with him that realizing the harm he's done feels too personal. I felt like I was grieving at the final realization that Davey destroyed Coda's life because in a way it felt like it was me who did it. I felt like I was the one who pried into Coda's personal life and me who ruined everything. "You have INFECTED my personal space" made ME feel physically ill.
    I even empathize with Davey's selfish panicking at the end, I can't help it. I felt his frantic need to fix it. My first thought was that I myself needed to fix it. I needed to apologize to Coda, to do anything to make it right. I grieved because I BELIEVED Davey. I believed him about the lampposts, and I believed that he was doing something good, something KIND...
    And the worst part is that as someone who has hurt people in the past and only realized later... I still feel bad for Davey even when he's being selfish. Even when I know he's being shitty and self centered I can't help but understand. I understand how utterly heartbreaking it feels to realize that you are not a good person (and how shitty it makes you feel to even feel sorry for yourself, knowing it's all your fault). I understand how it feels to reckon with that, and how it feels to not know where to go next. How do you move forward when you know you've hurt someone? How can you apologize to someone in a way that matters?
    None of this is to justify the actions of the character, I mostly just wanted to ramble. This game was painful for me. It's so direct. It says everything it needs to say so well. Massive Kudos to Davey (the real one) for making such a powerful game, the voice acting and story were genuinely moving and this is a game I will never forget.

    • @davidkameron3745
      @davidkameron3745 Před 27 dny +1

      I resonate with your experience so well. It felt just the same. But mostly, i saw myself in Davey. How i might have hurt people i truly care about just the same way. Blegh.

  • @rootvegetableboy3515
    @rootvegetableboy3515 Před 7 měsíci +166

    house level is my favorite as well. i remember playing through that level for the first time and feeling disappointed when davey forced me to continue onto the next one, and thinking to myself, "i wish i could play a version that never stops, and just loops, and i just keep cleaning forever". hearing how davey changed this particular level towards the end felt like such a sucker punch. absolutely incredible.

  • @TheTSense
    @TheTSense Před 6 měsíci +149

    "I don't want you to share my work and I don't want to talk to you. Whenever you fix your problem, whatever it is, please just say nothing and walk away"
    "So here is the whole collection of his work shared publicly under my name, I am doing this to get into contact with you again and to tell you I am sorry a million times"

    • @juansotomayor9076
      @juansotomayor9076 Před 3 měsíci +19

      From the very beggining i thought: So Davey is profiting from sharing the private and personal struggles of someone without his consent? That is wrong in so many levels.
      Then at the end it all made sense

  • @Zeemyth
    @Zeemyth Před 11 měsíci +279

    dude, this is the analysis that I think everyone was looking for for years. You knocked it out of the park. Your narration, your structure, your writing... Thanks for being the most thought-open part of me diving back into this game again. CZcams really is doing you dirty here. Unbelievably great watch and listen

    • @jonschaad8235
      @jonschaad8235 Před 7 měsíci +2

      I’m glad you actually understood it. Well done

    • @SteeIStar
      @SteeIStar Před 4 měsíci +1

      Yooooo, I love your channel zeemyth, you content is amazing!

  • @dk_boyblue
    @dk_boyblue Před 3 měsíci +40

    The funny thing is, the game being advertised as "from the creator of Stanley Parable" broke the deceit real fast for me. I know how Stanley Parable plays and Coda using the Source engine can't be the sole factor playing to this game handling and feeling exactly like Stanley Parable. It's quite obvious that this program is not some old games repackaged, it's one cohesive game that totally relies on its narrative. It's in good faith that the narrative is top-notch, it's one of the most emotional works I've ever seen. I watched Jacksepticeye shedding tears over it (for his own reasons, because as a creator he got his own thoughts about the narrative, I might add) and this game made great impacts to most people who played it. But yeah, I kinda glossed over the message because Coda didn't exist as a person to me from the start, which is sad. Your work on this narrative really brought it home for me, and I shall thank you for that.

  • @Cathowl
    @Cathowl Před 5 měsíci +50

    Absolutely lovely examination of the game. And I appreciate a take that isn't "this game doesn't want me to interpret it".

  • @DJTS1991
    @DJTS1991 Před rokem +95

    About once every three months, I'll CZcams search various games such as The Stanley Parable, The Beginner's Guide, What Remains of Edith Finch, Gone Home, or a selection of other ambiguous story driven games because there'll always be a new perspective, a new thought, or a new level of understanding that can be brought to the table. New videos don't pop up every day.
    So imagine my surprise when a two hour video on this beauty random pops up on my screen.
    Most analyses that I've watched or listened to AREN'T this long, or as deep or detailed, so I was overjoyed.
    Brilliant job, well done!

    • @rustyfisher2081
      @rustyfisher2081 Před 4 měsíci

      I haven't heard of Gone Home, how is that one?

    • @DJTS1991
      @DJTS1991 Před 4 měsíci +3

      @@rustyfisher2081 At the time of release, it was pretty revolutionary for storytelling with gay themes.
      But in 2023, some may find it pretentious, and some may understandably find it boring.

    • @rustyfisher2081
      @rustyfisher2081 Před 4 měsíci

      @@DJTS1991 I'll take a peep...

  • @_pixelatedsilver2a412
    @_pixelatedsilver2a412 Před měsícem +4

    "Maybe he just likes making prisons" has been trapped in my brain for so long now. It will probably never leave.

  • @Chrixiam1998
    @Chrixiam1998 Před 4 měsíci +22

    Just finished the video, and I want to add on 2 things I've always found interesting:
    1. Although we know that the lamp-post was something that Davey added to *some* games, that doesn't mean the lamp-post was *never* a part of *any* game. Very likely the reason that the lamp-post feels so incredibly out-of-place in the House game is simply that it's the only game we see that Davey added it to. However, it's not our job to determine *which* games the lamp-post was originally in.
    2. I always found it interesting that the symbol used for the text pop-ups in the Notes game also uses three dots (albeit not the same 3-dot symbol). If you assume that the three dots are just the developer's "signature" (or his way of marking that he was there), these two ideas reflect each other.
    Fantastic video on this fantastic game. Definitely going to send this to some of my friends who I have discussions with regarding the game and its symbolism/meaning.

  • @michaelb6312
    @michaelb6312 Před 8 měsíci +43

    Ik this is really late, but all of the evidence you’ve presented so wonderfully really helps me explain something I’d been struggling to understand. If there was any symbolism in the name of the creator being “coda”. Now, if you’re not a rehabilitating band kid like me, a coda is something in music where before you end to a piece, you go back to a part in the song, play through a part again, and then play a different ending, which is the coda. I wanted to share that there is 2 ways I’ve interpreted this after your video helped me further analyze the work as a whole. Either it’s just another representation of the door puzzle, a reminder to stop and think, or it’s what coda us begging narrator Davey to do, go back, re look, and stop. Find a way to end this obsessiveness. I like this even more when considering a common error you see beginner musicians make is ignoring the call to go back at all, or if they do, never finding the coda they need to get to. But fr, this video is put together amazingly, as someone dipping their toes into both writing and analyzing work, it’s really inspiring to see someone doing both so well-crafted. Thanks!

    • @WhaleMilk
      @WhaleMilk  Před 8 měsíci +30

      I am not a traumatized band kid but I am a classically trained violinist, so I am aware of how Coda's work. One of the things that I really don't like about this video is the fact that I missed the connection between Coda's name and the fact that the last thing you hear at the end of the game is a song called "Turn Back," which is just telling you to play the game again and reexamine everything from another angle. This game requires two play throughs at least to really understand, much like how a song with a written coda requires you to play portions of it twice.
      It kind of frustrates me that I completely forgot to talk about the symbolism of Coda's name itself. I think I wrote this script just before I really got into studying name symbolism, since I wrote this before I started reading Toni Morrison's work which is where I really got into name symbolism.
      Thank you for the kind words tho! And good luck on your further rehabilitation :)

    • @Kexiled
      @Kexiled Před 7 měsíci +5

      Or he's coda because he's a coder

    • @DrunkDoctr
      @DrunkDoctr Před 6 měsíci +4

      @@WhaleMilk I think both of your interpretations about the name are pretty accurate because the song that plays during the floating infinite maze is "D.S. Al Coda", immediately followed by "Turn Back". So I think the song names being a sign to replay is a pretty accurate interpretation.
      As a side note listening to both of those songs back to back will never get old and this games soundtrack is equally as important to why this game in general is so impactful.

  • @flawed1
    @flawed1 Před 7 měsíci +18

    I have to say, I love this game and I loved your interpretation. I think the mistake that a lot of people make when interpreting this game is they focus so much on the fact that Davey was being a shitty art critic, that they forget that Davey was being a really shitty friend. It’s almost like some people think that’s inconsequential, but there’s a reason that David prime chose to tell the story through the lens of friendship. I think you nailed that reason pretty well.

  • @tododokii
    @tododokii Před 6 dny +3

    I can’t tell you how much this analysis blew my mind, from the gameplays I’ve watched, and when I played, you could get the sense that Dave’s did something wrong to Coda, but the way you broke down everything, it makes so evident and damingly so- I didn’t realize how much Davey had tried to heavily push for all his thoughts and feelings about his idea of Coda in his head, without ever consoling and properly ever discussing and talking to Coda about it as a real person and friend-
    Thank you for this, The Beginners Guide has always had a special place in my heart and mind as a game, so incredibly unique and different, to understand it to it’s entirety, (as someone who isn’t not at all good at analyzing media), this just makes the game so much more special now, understanding everything behind the game now :)

  • @yeet7957
    @yeet7957 Před 8 měsíci +50

    I finished watching this on my tv so I went to see the stats of ur vid and HOLY SHIT YOU ARE SO FUCKING UNDERRATED. Like this ain’t even "oh that’s was lower than I expected but ok" no this is like criminal levels of underrated man. Your video has so much work put into it that I’m surprised the creator of the game hasn’t commented. Sorry for being a lil too crazy about this but just….. holy shit man you did so good

    • @WhaleMilk
      @WhaleMilk  Před 8 měsíci +19

      I would fucking combust if Davey Wreden commented on this vid lol

  • @pandorasbox6054
    @pandorasbox6054 Před 8 měsíci +40

    I’m very sad that this only has 2K views because holy moly! This was beautifully made and this game is literally one of my comfort games. How everything was put together was so well done, and I had never realized how many times Davy says “I, me, I think, how I felt.” In the whole thing and like a year or so ago I had the same thought process, and it doesn’t get you anywhere. Again, you’ve done an excellent job explaining each and every bit of The Beginners Guide, well done. 👏🏻

  • @spebtm8017
    @spebtm8017 Před 8 měsíci +55

    I actually cried to this man, this has been one of my favorite games for years and felt like it was never talked about. Thank you so much man.

  • @pikupixel5094
    @pikupixel5094 Před 7 měsíci +10

    one thing i really love about the beginner's guide
    It's clear that Davey has some obsession with Coda, including his production habits. He laments the gap in time between Coda's works, he feels there must be something wrong with Coda, that there must be an explanation for certain long gaps of time between games.
    As someone who does music as a hobby, I used to feel that way towards my own work, before I realized it was a natural cycle for me. I might be productive for a time, then set my hobby aside for a while, before coming back to it with fresh eyes.
    Someone on the outside who tries to look for reasoning behind everything may see this behavior and try to attribute it to depression, or stress, or something like that, when it could be a lot simpler than that. I set aside time, as a hobbyist, when the mood possesses me.
    Though my music is an aspect of who I am, it is not solely who I am, and the quality of my life can't be judged on the time I set aside for a hobby. Though I am projecting my own experiences onto the story, I think this is a general truth, that you can't fully understand someone or their feelings through their work. You can't skip the "messy socializing" when it comes to this.

    • @pikupixel5094
      @pikupixel5094 Před 7 měsíci +1

      I love this so much btw, I put this on expecting something to have going in the background, but the way you present information makes it really easy to pay attention to. Thank you for the video!!

    • @WhaleMilk
      @WhaleMilk  Před 7 měsíci +3

      You can’t make art with a mind that is messy and cluttered and not right for making art. Sometimes you just gotta set time aside to clean for as long as feels right.

  • @sidge9614
    @sidge9614 Před 8 měsíci +33

    The Beginner's Guide has always been a game that I've felt the idea of so well, but couldn't put it into words. Emotionally many of the struggles that Coda and Davey went trough felt parallel to what I felt. Most of the video essays and analyses on it felt incomplete, but your video finally managed to really scratch that itch that's been there for me for years. Thanks a lot!

    • @WhaleMilk
      @WhaleMilk  Před 8 měsíci +4

      I whole-heartedly agree. Even know, a lot of the things that this game makes me feel I can't perfectly articulate. There are some things in this video I wish I worded better, but at the time I didn't, and still don't, have the understanding enough of what was going on mechanically to explain. It's an incredibly emotionally complex game that does what it does with some incredibly clever narrative tricks that I think should be studied way more often.

  • @Ma1akai
    @Ma1akai Před 6 měsíci +12

    Yeah Im just going to second the a hundred other comments saying how awsome and underated this video is. For the depth you go into this game and how thorough you explain everything you should be getting at least 100s of thousands of views. You definitely helped me understand the the full meaning of this game right after I played it.

  • @asolomoth1066
    @asolomoth1066 Před 8 měsíci +17

    4 months later, and this video is criminally underrated
    I was watching Trope Talk on Unreliable Narrators, and this game came to mind. It's such a good "the narrator is a flawed/tragic character" story. I wanted to watch an analysis of this game, just to remind me of how good it was.
    I saw the length of this video and I knew it would be comprehensive and well thought out.
    I don't know if more videos like this will be coming out in the future. Regardless, I'm sticking around for good. I'm glad I found this channel.

    • @WhaleMilk
      @WhaleMilk  Před 8 měsíci +1

      I don't know if there will be either! There are a couple of games I could talk about in a similar way, but I'm not sure if I'll follow through with them. Maybe one day I'll tackle Dear Esther

  • @Strix2031
    @Strix2031 Před 8 měsíci +9

    I think maybe the very first lamppost mightve been already there and thats where Davey got the idea for the "ending" of a game

  • @caliwagg1898
    @caliwagg1898 Před 6 měsíci +3

    There’s nothing better on youtube than an hours long love letter to the youtuber’s favorite game. Good job.

  • @AzrialVanity
    @AzrialVanity Před rokem +14

    I had never heard of this game before this video, but man, what a ride.
    I am big dumb brain when it comes into deep reading of a meaning that someone is going for so seeing how WELL you explained everything and showcased it all is absolutely amazing.
    Also the way you speak is top notch, idk what it is, but it's extremely engaging to hear your voice. I hope this video reaches the audience it deserves ❤

    • @WhaleMilk
      @WhaleMilk  Před rokem +5

      Thanks! This means so much since, after hearing myself say the same shit for dozens upon dozens of hours, it’s easy for me to think it’s boring or not coherent. And however much that is the case for regular length videos we make, the doubt grows exponentially with the length of the video lol.

  • @tessm6616
    @tessm6616 Před 2 měsíci +2

    My first interaction with the beginners guide was through Jacksepticeye's playthrough. I did not play games at that point in time and i was so absorbed with the narrative that i did not questions it.
    I completely believed that the intext davey was a real person. It wasnt until i started reading the comments under that letsplay afterwards that i realised how trusting i had become in the stories (extremely unreliable) narrator.
    This game openned my eyes to how i take in media as a whole. Its also a comfort watch that i come back to every few months/years and i always enjoy finding new analysis videos as it broardens my understanding of interacting with art.

  • @BoosterDawg
    @BoosterDawg Před 9 dny +2

    Loved the video, incredibly well-written and presented! I felt compelled to comment after reaching the end hearing you say you wanted a three dots tattoo because that was my first tattoo I ever got! Even during this video I was looking down at it and remembering everything the game meant to me and why I chose to get that symbol on my body forever, thanks so much for everything you do

  • @AgtPanda
    @AgtPanda Před 3 měsíci +3

    I played through The Beginners Guide once, and completely didn't get it. I actually watched this video as a way to explain it to me, because playing the game went completely over my head T.T. Thank you for your analysis and explanation, it was very easy to follow and now I can see a bit of why people love this game!

  • @TheLadysAtelier
    @TheLadysAtelier Před 7 měsíci +5

    I don't 100% agree on all the points you covered, but this is a really good Analysis and I enjoyed watching it a lot!
    One thing I want to mention, because it was very relatable to me personally and I never see anyone else interpret it this way too (not saying anyone has to):
    the game about talking to the animal photographer (for clarification I never interpreted either of the characters as being Davey, the director might be a stand in for Coda but not directly), I think Davey is just absolutely misinterpreting it.
    This game is all about an important moment where you have decisions to make that you feel will determine the future, that you can't walk back on.
    I think the bars closing off behind you as you go aren't the person retreating at all, it's the feeling that as time progresses and you walk towards the future, that moment becomes more and more inaccessible, and you can't go back.
    This is what's at stake, the director says that "just in that one moment" they were confident, but the actor keeps getting the lines wrong and embarrassing themself (according to the director), so the director tries to show them the consequence, the doors of opportunity being closed irreversibly and the regret of messing up that one moment that comes with it.
    Not sure if this is understandable, I struggle with describing things sometimes.
    EDIT:
    another side note but I do think interpreting the woman at the end of the game with the islands as the person guiding the player and interpreting her as Davey is a really interesting take! I never asssociated her with the voice accompanying us and most people seem to interpret her as standing for Coda instead (personally I think a trans interpretation is really intriguing, someone pointed out that especially the phone call game fits in that very well and I can totally see that).
    I love hearing alternate interpretations and this would be really interesting, because it implies that Coda was even at that point seeing how desperate Davey was and acknowledging it, even though Davey was hurting him.
    Also I 100% agree on the 3 Dots I think this interpretation is spot on!

  • @duke_of_s0up388
    @duke_of_s0up388 Před 13 dny +1

    I did what you said and played the game completely blind, i didnt even know this game existed before your video showed up in my feed and im so glad I played it for myself, not many games I play are able to emotionally pull me into it, but this one is different so thank you for showing me a game thats able to do something other games cant

  • @lamidene8139
    @lamidene8139 Před měsícem +2

    I saw a post recently that said something like “there’s a difference between showing love and appreciation towards a story and its author, and trying to shake the magic word person so more words come out” And this is the video game version of that played out in the most unfortunate way possible.

  • @puzzledpuddle9778
    @puzzledpuddle9778 Před 7 měsíci +2

    this game makes more sense if you imagine coda as a manic pixie dream girl
    joking aside, this is genuinely the greatest beginner's guide video and puts my thoughts to words like nothing else can. thank you.

  • @brokencreativity7266
    @brokencreativity7266 Před rokem +10

    god i've always loved this game- and this video just- it encapsulated me from start to finish- and actually left me in tears with that final quote. this was an experience for me that dare i say almost rivals the original game. amazing job, truly

  • @scripage
    @scripage Před 4 měsíci +5

    Has to be one of the most eye-opening, beautifully written, meta analysis that I've fully watched. God, I wish I could experience this video for the first time again (The Beginners Guide too). Instead of the short takes that most video interpretations on The Beginners Guide use, you instead made something more time staking which in turn felt more connecting. A descriptive, deep-dive is something that a lot of people have waited for with this game and you blew away expectations. CZcams recommendations did me so dirty by showing this to me 8 months late. Again, beautifully written and beautifully done. That subtle loop around back to the 3 dots in the video either by game clips or words was just chef's kiss. Bravo :-)

  • @SkyKidShyKid
    @SkyKidShyKid Před 8 měsíci +8

    (i ramble quite a bit in this comment, sorry in advance lol i often find it difficult to condense things, i blame my autism haha)
    I played The Beginner's Guide in December of 2021 after being in a VC in the Crows Crows Crows Discord server with some people talking about how much they liked the game and them recommending it to me. It had always been on my to play list as I knew it was by the same guy who wrote The Stanley Parable and since I was bored from waiting for Ultra Deluxe to come out, I played it the very next day after that VC. Like you, I pretty much went into the game mostly blind and fell for the illusion that it was a real story and Davey was being truthful the entire time up and until near the end when I clocked that something wasn't right and started to question things... I'm never gonna forget how I felt when I first got hit with that letter Coda wrote, something about it hit completely different to me.
    Some context here... 2021 was the worst year of my life, one of the major reasons why this was is that I had a huge falling out with someone who ended up hurting me a lot and i just felt awful about it for months, and I myself knew that I wasn't all too innocent in all this stuff either, I wasn't proud of my behaviour from that time period and I had realised that by the time I had played this game.. I myself am an artist but I have tons and tons of drawings that I have never shared with anyone since they are very personal to me and I don't like the idea of random people invading my personal world since I'm a very introverted and quiet person. the idea of the people I trusted sharing that very personal work I made just for fun with other people I don't know absolutely mortifies me. these are drawings i dont even share with my own family for gods sake lol.
    So it was during the part where you start destroying Coda's work and the dialogue option of "Coda, I'll make sure you are known forever!" appearing combined with Davey's narration of him saying that he started showing Coda's work to others to get their thoughts was the VERY moment I realised things weren't right at all, since him saying that just frustrated to me to no end with the experiences I've had.
    The stuff he said about changing the games in the game after that only confirmed that Davey was an unreliable narrator, and getting hit with the brutally honest message Coda sent to him was just a HUGE gut punch, and then the sort of panic attack Davey had in the dark room as it shrank as he sorta broke down realising how shitty he was really being was an even larger gut punch. I remember crying at this on my first playthrough, and I still do kinda get choked up about it since it felt or so real. Then there was the epilogue, walking around slowly and just questioning what the hell I just experienced, I still wasn't even sure if that whole story was fictional or not as I had fallen for the game's trap of tricking me into thinking it was a true story. I was just so confused but... Gosh I don't even know where to begin? All I can really say is that, this game made me rethink a lot of things about myself and it was a VERY powerful experience. You know a twist is good when on repeat playthroughs it reframes things so had that it just makes you want to yell shut up at a character as it's so clear now that he was being bit of a pretentious ass when it came to his analysis on Coda's character.
    The Beginner's Guide was constantly on my mind for WEEKS after playing it, I had so much I wanted to say and I just kept watching other people play it to see their thoughts or find some essays on the game but none really ever satisfied all my needs I had for this game since well, I had way too many thoughts. I often considered writing my own essay with my thoughts and analysis on what this game means to me but I could never really find the time or words to do it. I guess I just wanna say, I think this video has been the essay I've been trying to find for at least a good year now since it actually gets into a lot of the thoughts I myself had the game and was the very thorough analysis I've been wanting for a goddamn while! This game impacted me in such a way that it did kinda reframe how I thought about things or how I see people who I look up to, and I am forever thankful for that. Seeing others who love this game as much as I do is such a delight to see.
    TLDR; Beginner's Guide is goated and I really enjoyed this video essay lol

  • @Lucky-qi2lp
    @Lucky-qi2lp Před 9 měsíci +5

    I've been waiting my entire life for someone to drop a long video essay about The Beginner's Guide, thank you so much! Loved the video

  • @hide_on__bush
    @hide_on__bush Před 5 měsíci +2

    I think there is no better praise than: you did this game the justice it deserves. For years I genuinely thought the events in the beginners guide were real, and not only did you shatter that misconception, you presented ideas that I had never would thought of in such an intriguing manner. In doing so, I also have a much greater appreciation for Davey Wreden the creator: Bra-fucking-vo to his writing and narrative abilities for making it seem so real.

  • @erilobar9402
    @erilobar9402 Před 7 měsíci +4

    My only dissapointment is that this video appears to have come out shortly after i consumed everything on the internet talking about the beginners guide, and so I initially missed it. I'm glad I went back and looked again on a whim. It was, really, quite fantastic. Thank you very much for making this.

  • @Islandgirl5311
    @Islandgirl5311 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Something interesting I picked up on from watching this- within the "this is real" narrative, Coda knows Davey has been altering his games. In order to continue to assume this is real, one has to imagine an entire invisible layer of story happening that narrator Davey doesn't talk about to perserve the illusion that he is the good guy. Where one can assume someone in their "real life" must have told Coda that Davey was not only sharing but editing the games or that Davey slipped in a conversation with Coda and mentioned it himself (which is unlikely, because it seems like a revelation that Coda found out). Or perhaps Coda knowing is the one and only hint within the game that the story isn't real, which is kinda how I take it.
    Really great and engaging video! It completely changed my perspective on the game and illuminated a lot of social cues I missed. It was very much appreciated!

  • @EB_DC
    @EB_DC Před 23 dny +1

    Great analysis :)
    Long story short, it wasn't until last year where I really started to think about this game differently, and this video solidified my change in thinking. The Beginner's Guide really resonates with me more now than when it came out nine years ago.
    Good work, you've got my sub. 👍

  • @Ekas_
    @Ekas_ Před 10 měsíci +7

    Incredibly insightful and eye-opening video, thank you very much for making it! The Beginner's Guide is a game that leaves you with tons of questions and your analysis cleared up a lot of things that I've been dwelling on over the past several months. I'd keep watching even if it was 3 or 4 hours long :)

  • @JT-lj3kt
    @JT-lj3kt Před 2 měsíci +2

    Something I saw about this game, after watching a VOD of someone else streaming it and pointing it out.
    The moment you start the game, the controls appear on the screen, telling you that WASD is to move, and [LEFT CLICK] is to interact. Maybe I’m just making a conspiracy about nothing, but there is no mention of the fact that you can also press SPACE to jump. Either it’s just something left out by accident, or it’s a very subtle way of the game telling you that it’s already lying to you.
    I swear, every time I see this game, I see something else that could be interpreted. It’s amazing!

  • @GippyHappy
    @GippyHappy Před 2 měsíci +2

    My experience with this game was watching a let’s play of it (can’t remember exactly who) and being so immediately disgusted by the conceit that it was a man stealing someone else’s games and showing them off without that person’s consent that I couldn’t get through the rest of the videos on it the first time. I really felt like proceeding with the game was a violation of Coda and felt genuinely uncomfortable with it. (Of course at the time I don’t think I could articulate this and instead shook it off as “this game is weird let’s watch something else”)
    Which is another layer to The Beginner’s Guide: the very act of playing is making you complicit in Davey’s crime, and yet you keep playing. Just like Davey acknowledging that what he was doing to Coda was wrong and yet he still went ahead and made this game anyway.
    (Of course it’s all fictional, so it’s important to finish for the sake of the narrative, but if you don’t know that when you’re playing it’s certainly something to ponder on.)
    I eventually finished watching the playthrough but didn’t connect with the message until much later when I similarly broke out of the mindset that it’s cringey to be vulnerable and connect with art on a deeper level.

  • @hadix7x
    @hadix7x Před rokem +10

    It's nice to see you branch out keep going milk man

  • @firefoxphoenix6845
    @firefoxphoenix6845 Před rokem +4

    Came from Twitter, I absolutely love The Beginners Guide and I’m so exited to watch an analysis on it!!

  • @legion7837
    @legion7837 Před 8 měsíci +3

    I'm impressed you've made an analysis that is apparently longer than the game itself, let's give it a go.

  • @brainlessdood814
    @brainlessdood814 Před 8 měsíci +2

    This is an awesome video and analysis. Thank you for making this.

  • @evanmiller7700
    @evanmiller7700 Před 7 měsíci +1

    A truly excellent analysis!! Kudos all around, this is incredible.

  • @nyctonihilanth
    @nyctonihilanth Před 6 měsíci +1

    fantastic video! honestly it's perfect, you deserve so much more attention. keep up the good work man

  • @tarts.5584
    @tarts.5584 Před 8 měsíci +4

    fantastic analysis of one of my favorite games ever. you touched on a bunch of things i didn't even know about, even after this many years, and your points were really interesting to consider -- especially when it came to the last part of the tower! great work!

  • @TheJSJosh
    @TheJSJosh Před 7 měsíci +2

    Genuinely fantastic video. This game is also one of my all-time favourites and I've watched almost every semi-large video on it, but this said so much more to me, this level of detail on a game I haven't played in admittedly quite a few years was something I personally really needed. You hit upon some things that I haven't heard anybody else talk about, and your enthusiasm for this game is dripping off your words and it is genuinely invigorating. Thank you so much for making this video.

  • @collinbollin
    @collinbollin Před 11 měsíci +1

    this is awesome, thank you for making this!

  • @DorneysHouseofGames
    @DorneysHouseofGames Před rokem

    A welcome surprise, never saw your content but I always love a good video-essay about this game

  • @rainbowzzzplayzzz
    @rainbowzzzplayzzz Před 6 měsíci +1

    This might be one of my new favorite videos. I've been researching this game recently because I absolutely fell in love with it after re-watching an old play-through. I think you really summed up (and expanded on) all of my thoughts and the way you talk about it is very nice and clear which I enjoy. Thank you for making this.

  • @AstreausSas
    @AstreausSas Před rokem +3

    I absolutely loved listening to this analysis. Amazing video! I remember playing this game a few months ago and getting to learn even more about it was very interesting. Love the video! ❤❤

  • @bugboi2714
    @bugboi2714 Před 6 měsíci +2

    This has been my favorite game forever!! Thank you so much for making such an in depth video I feel like so many more people should appreciate your analysis and the game itself! Well done

  • @tentoutentoumushi
    @tentoutentoumushi Před 7 měsíci +1

    i rewatch this video a lot, I love seeing this much effort and love for this game

  • @isbammoi3358
    @isbammoi3358 Před 7 měsíci

    Ty for making this. Oh my gosh finally.
    A video just, digging into this and doing it great.
    Adore this game

  • @JT-lj3kt
    @JT-lj3kt Před 9 měsíci +1

    Such an amazing retrospective for a similarly amazing masterpiece of a game. Always happy to see someone else talk about such an underrated gem. 👍

  • @IdioticSynergy
    @IdioticSynergy Před 6 měsíci

    This is a great video mate. Keep up the great work ^^

  • @TamarZiri
    @TamarZiri Před 6 měsíci +1

    The end gave me chills. Thank you for this in-depth analysis. I see the similarities between your work and the vid you referenced in the beginning but after watching both they go into different topics and yours is a step by step analysis that i feel is very interesting and impactful. I've watched about every vid on this game that I could find and yours is one of the best. Great work!

  • @poppindog2906
    @poppindog2906 Před 4 měsíci +3

    That was an amazing video. It so perfectly encapsulated my first experience with the game. I remember being fully on board up until the house level. I think the sudden ending is what tipped the first domino for me. I was waiting for you to talk about it in the video, but I think this ended up being my personal take away from that level. In my eyes, I always saw the house as the only game made personally for Davey. If i remember correctly, he even says something along the lines of "this was the only game coda gave to me" I think it was supposed to be coda truly opening up and giving Davey EXACTLY what he wanted so badly, but the truth conflicted with his inner narrative. Coda wasn't able to reach him, and i think that's what he was referencing in the Tower by saying he lacked what Davey needed. Loved the video :)

    • @KristofskiKabuki
      @KristofskiKabuki Před 3 měsíci +1

      Oh that's interesting, he felt like what Davey needed was some chill time without a fixed goal or point, but Davey couldn't accept that. But then tbf we already know from the story that you can't fix other people!

  • @Puddle
    @Puddle Před 7 měsíci +3

    this is a phenomenal analysis! thank you for taking the time to put it together. it really makes me wanna go back and play again lol

  • @vanilluvcoffee
    @vanilluvcoffee Před 6 měsíci

    thank you so much for this analysis and you knocked it out of the park. i hope people that played this game 5 years ago find this over time and appreciate it just like i have. this game is extremely special to me and it makes my heart feel a type of joy i havent had in a long time to see someone else care about it so much too. i seriously encourage you, continue making projects that make you feel the same joy you described you had when making this video. people can see it and will want to connect with that til the end of time.

  • @while2359
    @while2359 Před měsícem

    I'm not sure if you'll see this message but I just wanted to say thank you for this video. The beginner's guide has such a special place in my heart and this analysis has everything and more. I can see how passionate you are about this game and how much it also means to you. This video perfectly encapsulates the essence of the beginners guide and I found myself seeing the game from even more different perspectives. Thank you for this, this was perfection!!!

  • @6pades
    @6pades Před 5 měsíci

    what an incredible video. i've been looking for something exactly like this ever since i played the game years and years ago, thank you so much. i can't wait to hear your analysis of other games.

  • @aguythatscool
    @aguythatscool Před 4 měsíci

    great video and i can tell there was a lot of work and effort put into it. really well written analysis

  • @Yaseanne
    @Yaseanne Před 6 měsíci

    This is a great video for a game that is also one of my favorites. It's been years since I played it and yet every couple of months something reminds me of it and I have to pause and take stock and remind myself of the things I've learned from it. It's had a huge impact on how I interact with art - and people in general in some ways.
    You've beautifully analyzed and theorized on these points, and the length of the video is absolutely justified for what you're achieving with it.
    Thank you for making this ❤

  • @alexslaughter2248
    @alexslaughter2248 Před 6 měsíci

    Really good video. Glad I stumbled upon this. Played the game years ago and I’m using it as inspiration for a book I’m working on

  • @justchillin3348
    @justchillin3348 Před 7 měsíci +1

    oh my god this was perfect !!! fantastic job

  • @YavuzBavuz
    @YavuzBavuz Před 7 měsíci

    This was a very enjoyable watch, thank you for making this video!~

  • @Urei373
    @Urei373 Před měsícem +1

    Very well done analysis. I love it and was waiting for an analysis for this game since I watched a lets play.

  • @animatedaquarius
    @animatedaquarius Před měsícem +1

    this video gave me a whole new perspective on this game. bravo!

  • @koconnor117
    @koconnor117 Před rokem

    I also didn't know anything about this game until your video and I've been choked up this whole time. Truly a phenomenal game and analysis ❤

  • @christianboi7690
    @christianboi7690 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Nah man, don’t worry about the video length. A lot of people love long analysis, especially when there’s not a lot of fluff. You did a great job with this video and it kept me enthralled all the way through.

  • @sprocket0077
    @sprocket0077 Před 4 měsíci

    Wow wow. Thank you Whale Milk! I’ve been binging your videos this week but skipped this one until I had a chance to play this game. I’d never heard of it before. Really happy I did, and this video is such a great companion piece. Can’t believe it has so few views, this is such a top notch video essay.

  • @abuffzucchini
    @abuffzucchini Před 8 měsíci +1

    This was an incredibly well done video, and has honestly probably solidified itself as my favorite CZcams video, just yknow in general. It's that good, just super super impressive and well put together. One thing that I also thought was really neat was how on top of Davey talking over Coda's blocks of text, the lighting also often obscures parts of them, with shadows of girders, or the side of a text box being almost completely engulfed, which seemed like a really out of place decision to me until I watched this video

  • @rocherbrockas3032
    @rocherbrockas3032 Před 8 měsíci +1

    This touched me as much as the game. Thank you so much

  • @CakeCrab
    @CakeCrab Před 6 měsíci

    Finally played this game, and i knew i had to watch ur vid on it haha
    Amazing video! You explained it so well for someone as confused as me and it helped a lot!

  • @RJ-tb2oq
    @RJ-tb2oq Před 3 měsíci

    i adore this game with my entire heart and have kept coming back to it over the years. Awesome analysis, really glad to see that there is still so much love for this game.

  • @nwclark
    @nwclark Před 7 měsíci

    Love this vid. Great work!

  • @eliwinters1232
    @eliwinters1232 Před 3 měsíci

    Wow. This video was so beautifully done. Well executed and thought out. I love this. This game has a special place in my heart. And to see it get a video that does it justice, makes the meaning of the game so much more satisfying and meaningful.❤

  • @solar111s
    @solar111s Před 6 měsíci

    this video is criminally underrated. brilliant work man

  • @rustfaller
    @rustfaller Před 17 dny +1

    I think I get the epilogue. At the end of the game, that level was made by Davey. He wants so badly to speak about it, but he instead lets it speak for itself. He's not done with all his bad habits, but it's a beginning.

  • @ceanyflamingo5127
    @ceanyflamingo5127 Před 4 měsíci

    Thiw video is incredibly good. The begginers guide means a lot to me because of some personal stuff. It was great seeing a longer more in depth analysis of this wonderfull game

  • @madetobeawsome3176
    @madetobeawsome3176 Před rokem +2

    I have a tattoo on my chest dedicated to this game the 151617 which was the pass code to the unfinished Bridge in the tower game
    I love this game so much and great video!

  • @FireAspectPL
    @FireAspectPL Před měsícem

    This video deserves way more recognition!

  • @whyb0t
    @whyb0t Před 2 měsíci

    man, this video really just cements everything i love about this game.
    i know that *the* Davey and Coda are fictional characters, but i really hope that they both find peace. Davey, to find something else that gives him meaning except validation from others (and invading people's personal spaces,) and Coda, to just... heal.
    it's ironic, (albeit not unexpected,) how fictional characters that i don't personally know can have such an impact on me, given the topic. but all i can do is to try not to become like Davey, to not pretend like there's something there when there really isn't.
    thanks for this. now i find that i've done enough thinking for the next year or so.

  • @IndirectCogs
    @IndirectCogs Před 7 měsíci +3

    I might be overanalyzing, but I audibly gasped when I realized the machine had 3 gears in the front, which looks like the 3 dots!
    If the machine represents Coda, perhaps the 3 dots are literally just like an artists signature?

  • @deovolt
    @deovolt Před 8 měsíci +1

    Wow, really awesome video man, I always get really happy seeing people still care for The Beginners Guide as it is my 2nd favorite game, my absolute fav being outer wilds so I jiggled when you also mentioned it lol; I loved TBG because it teaches you that people are way more than what they say or do and you can't boil somenone down to just a couple of their actions, its a really human game/narrative that imo almost pushes you to try to be more empathic towards other people. Now, your video made me thougth about it from different perspectives that I hadn't seen before, even after all these years, and I always love that; thanks for the video, really great job!

    • @WhaleMilk
      @WhaleMilk  Před 8 měsíci +3

      Something I didn't realize about this game until I was deep into editing was how much it rewards a second playthrough. When gathering footage, I played the game twice back to back in the same setting: once with subtitles on and the other with subtitles off, and those back-to-back playthroughs really highlighted how much a second playthrough of the game completely shifts your perspective of everything from the beginning. At the start of the first playthrough you are under the illusion that Davey is just kinda Davey, the dude that makes games, much like to you, I am Whale Milk, the guy that makes videos online. But by the end of the game you have seen a vulnerable side of Davey, he has been painted in this light that makes him look like an ass, yes, but also makes him much more empathetic and human. On the second playthrough, you have this humanity to recontextualize everything, and that's where the depth of the game really comes from.
      I don't think I've ever seen a game have so much replay value in the storytelling alone. The first playthrough is a nice romp through a field with a dark revelation at the end, and the second is this deep chasm of symbolism and interpretation, and absolutely nothing changes about the game inbetween those two play throughs. It's almost like I said in the video: the game has two angles you can read it from, the literal and the meta, where the first playthrough pretty much everybody reads the game as literal, and the second playthrough you can't help but read it with the meta lens.

  • @dddeergirl
    @dddeergirl Před 4 měsíci

    i love this video, fantastic job

  • @5q1h2zjtta2
    @5q1h2zjtta2 Před 8 měsíci +2

    I wanted to say thank you for this incredibly in depth analysis, For the longest time i've been hoping someone would tackle this game in a long deep analysis video and you delivered it excellently. This game is my favorite and i always leave with something new everytime someone talks about it.
    You managed to explain a lot of my thoughts about this i couldnt even begin finding the words for even today. I was always bit apprehensive when people call this game anti intellectual or anti criticism but at the beginning i did think that the message was just that maybe he just likes making prisons and thinking otherwise was pointless. But the more people i watched discuss and play this game the more i realized it wasnt that at all it was far from it and you finally hit the nail in the coffin starting at 6:00 until the end of the video. Bravo !

    • @WhaleMilk
      @WhaleMilk  Před 8 měsíci +2

      you have no idea how hard it was to cut an entire like three page rant about anti-intellectualism and that whole "the curtains are blue" thing out of this video. I still have it in my drive somewhere lol

    • @5q1h2zjtta2
      @5q1h2zjtta2 Před 8 měsíci

      @@WhaleMilk oh man i get that! it's really a topic you can get into a long tangent about and honestly i wouldnt have mind listening to it since its an interesting discussion in general, but i do get why you had to cut it to keep the video on track 😅

  • @narogmog
    @narogmog Před 5 měsíci +3

    Really really liked the analysis. altough, im sad you didnt touch on my personal favorite point with the game; "Create art for YOU."
    Feeling Kinda Tired rn so i might Come back and edit this comment to explain my point.

  • @Cronnicossy
    @Cronnicossy Před 3 měsíci

    Thank you for making this.

  • @BaconEggsRL
    @BaconEggsRL Před 6 měsíci

    Played this game and immediately wanted to hear other people's thoughts on it. I agree with a lot of your points.
    The music in the house level was incredible and very emotional for me. To me though it almost makes me feel kind of sad.
    This is a bit personal but it reminded me of being a kid at home, and my mom telling me to go do my chores. Now that I'm an adult we live apart in different cities and I don't get to spend as much time with her. When I visit over the holidays I'll make sure to cherish the time we spend together.
    I guess everyone has their own interpretation based on their own experiences in life. I think we all look to find a piece of ourselves in others and in some way validate our own existence. Not trying to write an essay here but I enjoyed this game and your video a lot, I'm glad someone gave it the attention it deserves.
    Cheers!

  • @6pades
    @6pades Před 5 měsíci

    i got a few friends to play the game the other day and i linked them to this video almost immediately, your thoughts are just so spot on. house is my favorite level too, and va has got to be my favorite track :)

    • @6pades
      @6pades Před 5 měsíci

      i didn't even know you made genshin content (i play ever day) but now that i do know i have GOT to check out your other videos

  • @mariapazgonzalezlesme
    @mariapazgonzalezlesme Před rokem +5

    I recall seeing the playthrough of this game; and I kinda surprised me that Coda / David weren't actual people, maybe it was because of the voice acting feel so raw.
    It's amazing hearing your thoughts from others games / stories. Kudos!

    • @Strix2031
      @Strix2031 Před 8 měsíci +1

      David is but the one in game is just a character.

  • @windums560
    @windums560 Před 3 měsíci

    I did play it before and felt your concern at the intro. I'm glad if I didn't play qnd stumble upon this video I would've been safe. It's my second videobof this channel and I'm loving it. Good job

  • @jacoborgan1533
    @jacoborgan1533 Před 4 měsíci

    You had no right making this analysis this good

  • @Fantomyogurt
    @Fantomyogurt Před rokem +2

    Leaving a like and a comment and I’ll have to check the game out before I watch this video then! Ive seen you working on this for a while now so I’m very curious about what you have to say although idk this game… so I shall find it first and come back!

  • @nutterbutter9069
    @nutterbutter9069 Před 3 měsíci

    I really like how I can have a very different interpretation of this game and both that and this interpretation feel satisfying to me - The Beginner’s Guide is just an excellent game

  • @JosephReference
    @JosephReference Před 5 měsíci

    so thank you, i played this blind and i such a profound experience. ok now im gonna watch this video.