I disagree with this type of video. Obviously, you're trying to sell watches, but this is not consumer-friendly. As the business reviewing your own products you lose all credibility and objectivity. You should allow the watches to stand for themselves and let 3rd parties review Island watches.
This is the whole point of youtube. 3rd party? Do you know why the islander has not been reviewed by large channels? Cause they want some sort of kickback. I ain't naming names but I ain't doing that.
There are a lot of third parties who review the Islander. All are mostly positive. I upgraded my Orient Mako II which is basically an SKX style. With the ceramic lumbed bezel insert and sapphire crystal and coin edge bezel. All from Long island watch. They are all designed for the SKX and fit the Orient perfect.
Don’t forget: Buying a watch from Mark means your also becoming great customer service. He really helped me out with a watch that got lost during transport. Thanks again for that Marc. Will soon order another one.
SKX keeps selling because of the name. The islander has more value, but not the history or name of the SKX. It's why Mercedes can sell entry level plastic shit boxes for a premium price. The name.
Marc telling us he doesn’t get why we still buy the seiko and I bought one a week after his first islander release. I’ll say because the watch I wanted for a long time was the skx007j and I knew that buying a “homage” or equivalent watch was not going to make me happy. I have now modded it the way i wanted and I’m extremely happy with it. I could have paid less for more with his islander but I would’ve never be as satisfied as I actually am with my purchase. Buy the watch you really want! If an islander is your thing then go for it. If seiko is the one for you earn those extra $ and get the watch you really desire.
If only everyone could apply this comment to the watches they purchase and collect in general! I think sooo many individuals buy watches to please others or to buy what people say they should buy. Don’t buy an skx or ANY watch because it’s what you’re “supposed” to buy. Buy what you love! Break the norm and have fun! I do think the island watch line is so unique even if they are spin offs because they are so unique and totally spec’d out and tailored to the enthusiast. Props to you Marc and I may have to get one after hesitating for a while. Spot on brother!
Tal Ron I agree. One of the main cons for me is the logo, maybe it’s being a bit picky but it does matter to me what the dial says. Also the applied markers are not as rounded as the original skx which is one of my preferred characteristics of the original watch. Just get what you truly want and you’ll not be disappointed!
Unless you modded your SKX with factory Seiko parts then I don't see the difference. If you would have kept yours stock then I could off seen the argument. But, wear what ever makes you happy is the bottom line.
the SKX makes a lot of sense from that standpoint if you do not plan to mod them. However, once you've modded it you may as well have bought the homage.
Strangely for some it is all about the specs and nothing else. And it seems like for some the cheaper the watch the more obsessed they get about telling you how you got ripped off for paying $50-100 more than you should have for a $200 watch because there's some no name Chinese spec monster they say you should have bought off of AliExpress even though it looks nothing like the watch you bought. 🤔😆
@@Strideo1 people forget the cost of doing business. Seiko spent millions upon millions to design, develop in-house movement, and advertise the watches to make them popular in the first place or these micro/homages wouldn't exist in the first place. They also have to be sold through distributors/retailers which will instantly cause micros/homages to double in price. Finally, even if the homages are made with better spec and parts, in the history of watches, none of them will be considered an icon and have collectible value. You can buy a steinhart homage that have better build/parts vs original Rolex milsub for tiny fraction but would the Steinhart down the road be more collectible and increase in value vs Rolex...I think we all know the answer
The Islander never gets old and always good to see it in the videos, Thanks Marc. The winner for my money is the Islander. The heart is basically the same, where the Islander jumps ahead is the build specs. (no mod parts needed) Factor in the price of sapphire, ceramic and better bracelet and Seiko is left in the dust.
The SKX is a beautiful icon of the watch world. It might not be the best watch, but there's something very special about it. Thank you for keeping it alive with the Islander brand. I'm sure that I'll own more than one Islanders!
I’m a huge Seiko fan. But, I’ve been very frustrated over how large their divers generally are, particularly in terms of thickness. With a 6.5” wrist, not much over 12mm of thickness wears comfortably on my wrist. It would be GREAT to have more slimmer dive watch options. Perhaps you could accommodate that in a future Islander release. Just a thought.
@@islandwatch For inspiration could I suggest the skx027. I ended up impulse buying a used SKX027 and I'm loving the smaller size, thinner case, and the coin edge bezel. But with all of the charm of the SKX. White, Gold and Black doesn't hurt either. I'm thinking a thinner SKX would be a slam dunk.
Go for it Marc, you’ve earned the right to post any video that you like and furthermore your dedication and honesty and integrity responding to the needs of your customers which I’m sure wasn’t cheap to do so also proves why you are succeeding and what an achievement Marc. I’m sure your Dad is proud of you! Thanks for helping where it’s long been needed and keep up the Great work!!
I’ve been wearing an ISL-04 since December and it’s a Incredible Watch! My next one will be the ISL-13 and a ISL-25 for my wife when they get restocked. Keep up the great work and Stay Safe and Healthy!
IMHO this channel has the perfect amount of Islander. I’m starting a new job in the next few months and I’m going to reward myself with one of the turtle style Islanders, just haven’t decided which one
Thanks for the honest comparison, Mark. I bought my SKX from you over a year ago, with a 12-hour sapphire bezel. I have bad eyesight, so I wanted the bright lume. This is the best watch I have for visibility day and night. You gave me the best price, and I really enjoy the watch. I live in Canada, and because of 8 months of wet winter, I wanted a dive watch. I'm outside a lot, and did not want to have to worry, period. I would consider buying an Islander in the future, with a blue or green dial and bezel. My only dislike of both the Islander and the Seiko watches is the minute and hour hands. I just don't like the Seiko styling. I would get more squared-off, bigger hands. I understand you offer customization on the Islander, so that's what I would be thinking about if I were to buy one in the future. At this point, I'm saving money for my first luxury watch. Either Omega or Grand Seiko.
You simply took the next logical step (in my opinion) of updating the "SKX line-up" where Seiko failed to do so in their S5 line. I have the SKX009J for its history and provenance but I love what LIW has done in modernizing for what Seiko should have done, which is why I bought the drop-dead gorgeous ISL-18. My only complaint: non-logoed bracelet clasp LOL 😄
Just purchased my 4th Islander watch. So much bang for your buck and the bezel lines up too. Great customer service. Great selection of models and colorways. Marc is an American entrepreneur who's company is giving watch enthusiasts a great product at a great price. Long live the entrepreneurial spirit.
I love my skx but I am frustrated with the short power reserve and inability to hack or hand wind. Switching out the movement means opening the watch and will cost $150. The new seiko 5s with the hand winds are 100 metres rated too. Marcs option makes a lot of sense .. Will wait for the wave face!!
For me, it has to be the SKX. The Islander is specced better, there is no doubt about it. But there is just something about looking down at your wrist and seeing the Seiko logo, a watch company that has been around for 100+ years, providing quality watches for the working man.
You convinced me!! Ordered My ISL 02!! The extra Nato and rubber straps were also ordered. Outstanding free delivery service un the US. Now I am waiting for My friend Fernando to fly to Perú. Aloha from Peru. This will be my surfing toolwatch.😎
Two years ago when I got more seriously in to watches I _immediately_ called B.S. on the SKX type: trash movement, trash glass, trash bracelet, so-so beze insertl. After you replace all the faulty bits you have a perfect watch, lolol. And all that for only a $1,000 for a modded Seiko. LONG LIVE LONG ISLAND! LONG LIVE THE ISLANDER! LONG LIVE MARK!
Yes. But no. Its a tool watch. It must be handy. and for me without manual winding it is not. IMHO if u want seiko printed on the dial go to Mini Turtle. Or Sumo, or Samurai
Thanks for these videos Mark! To anybody who wants to get started on SKX modding, the islander is a much better deal. I learned the hard way. Keep these mods parts/watches coming!
Love your video's Marc - I think it's so cool that your enthusiasm for watches prompted you to make your own. Hope to one day one an Islander myself, simply knowing your history behind it and the great value it offers. Thanks for all your videos, honesty and knowledge!!! Also - that wave dial is fresh!!! Please keep listening to your customer's Marc - I think that's what makes your products so special.
Before the Islander was released, an SKX007 was at the top of my list. Recently I've been looking forward to buying a special watch for an occasion I have coming up, saving my pennies. Only problem is there's now 4 different Islander models sitting at positions 1-4 on my favorites list. You're doing too good of a job and making the decision to choose just one very difficult. As a fellow engineer who has spent his whole career working in 2 different industries who test to strict standards, I'm glad you have chosen to save cost by not perusing those certs. Great comparison!
The other day I wore two of my favourite watches. I told my gf it was because I was taking one to get serviced, but the truth is I just wanted to wear them both. Marc, the design of your watches is great. If you ever make smaller watches, I'm getting one.
I got an SKX for my fathers day gift this year and it was one of my grail watches and I love it, hard to take it off my wrist. However I do really like the Islanders too and will have one very soon
My brother and I bought matching Islanders. He is way more of a watch guy than I am, and was super happy with his 009. Then he saw his Islander. And hasn’t even looked at his 009 since. I enjoy my ISL-2 :)
People seem to miss when you said “tongue in cheek”! People mod Seikos all the time with aftermarket non Seiko marked dials. Why not buy a stock watch with all the same features? I will be getting an Islander soon.
Yes, I kept looking at modding an SKX to fix the shortcoming, and that looked too time consuming. I could have done a "your watch your way", but an SKX tricked out the way I wanted was nearly $600 ( and that was before the prices shot up ). The Islander got me what I wanted for a fair price. I ended going with the ISL-09 which was fun, just because I had never seen that shade of blue on a watch before. Don't judge me, I might have a thing for blue dive watches.
I appreciate your transparent review and understand the point you are trying to make. Wise people are free to make choices and you are just trying to rationalize their decision making by presenting different options which provide more value for money, no harm in it even if it is your own brand. At least you are upfront about it and acknowledge the shortcomings while comparing those two watches.
Great video! I own one of each watch. I love them both. I purchased the Seiko because I wanted a piece of horological history. I have since modified my Seiko with A sapphire crystal, ceramic bezel insert an NNH 36 movement.I have also purchased an islander SKX. This watch was a great value. It basically already comes fully modified. I would recommend either watch!
To the person who said that you do too many Islander Watch Videos ; There is NO SUCH THING as too many Islander Watch Videos. They are fantastic! Sapphire crystals - Lumed bezels and Yatch Master bezels - gorgeous! Lot's of options! The only reason I don't have one yet is I'm waiting till they come out with the Blue Saturday and Red Sunday (like the SKX as I love that feature).
I just got my ISL-02 today. I am very extremely impressed with it having wore it for a few hours so far. I was hesitant about that blue hue from the AR, but it is hard to see it in person, but have caught it in a certain light and I got to say I had nothing to hesitate about. The slight shine of blue looks amazing. The lume looks amazing along with the dial, case and bezel! Bracelet looks nice too! I got to say this might be my favorite watch I have owned after owning it for only a few hours so far. I'll be showing it up at work tomorrow. Expect more customers soon. Thank you Marc! Also I am looking forward to the new GMT model coming soon!
The spec for value on the Islander is unmatched, but brand heritage is ultimately what made me decide on the 009. Do plan on picking up an Islander in the future though..I think they both can be enjoyed as their own separate thing. Maybe the numerals on the embossed ceramic insert would look better closer together? Just a cheeky suggestion!
Second this. Sterile dial I would buy, it's tough to establish a brand, and I think Islander is a good brand, reminds me of Singer Porsches (intended as a huge compliment), but as with Singer sometimes you want the better/improved product without the aftermarket branding.
Everybody appreciates Marc. I have an SKX and will buy an Islander as well because we support the enterprise and the risk he has taken on with his business. He has made a tribute watch and somehow made it more than that with design flair and customer focus. 38mm with a time zone Bezel please.
I own three Islanders, two of which are SKX style. I think some buy the SKX because they owned one in the past and it has nostalgia for them, and then there are others like me that are new to collecting and see the historical significance of the watch and want to own a piece of that history. I type this while wearing an ISL-18, which is the favorite of both my daughter and wife. They prefer it over far more expensive timepieces I own.
I've just added an STO Samurai in my collection. Have been eyeing the Islanders for a while now. They're moving up in the soon-to-buy list. Thanks for your video and your constant effort in improving your own.
I’ve been eyeing the Islander and doing lots of research on it vs other watches. I think it’s an absolutely brilliant value for money. Can’t wait to place an order. Thank you Marc.
I love my Islander. It's so comfortable, just the right size, I really love it. I got the white face with the blue ceramic bezel..... such a cool summer watch.
I'm not beholden to any brand. I buy what I think is the best value for money. 3 years ago I would've said Seiko has great value but since they restructured their pricing... Not so much. I'll take my islander any day.
You were honest and right on all counts. If Seiko sold you Limibrite, I would never look at them again (well, maybe their solar divers). I definitely have the Islander full face lume diver in my future. Keep on keepin’s Marc!❤️
Two days ago I got my islander isl-09. The blue one. I own a Seiko SKX, Orient Triton and the islander. Man, the colour is stunning with the islander. Took 3 Weeks to get to Germany but not was worth the time. The Islander is the better deal. Everything you would modify on a Seiko ist already installed. Love it
Mr. Mark I am still waiting for a true GMT in your brand, but you must admit may your watch have great features and looks great, The Seiko watch is fantastic looking, and great working watch too. Thanks for your opinion.
watching this wearing my isl-05 on an MN strap from erika, absolutely killer watch i was basically only wearing g-shocks prior to picking up the islander and i swear this thing gets more wrist time than any other watch i own now keep it up mark! cant wait to see what sort of islanders you'll be selling a couple years down the line can we expect any 38mm pilot islanders in future?
My dad got to wanting an auto, as he doesn’t currently own one and the Islander is the first one I recommended. I’m not an expert but I probably know more about watches than anybody else my dad knows so I was the one he came to when he wanted an opinion on a good auto. You get so much for the money and he ordered one like you’re wearing (the Yacht Master look alike) I don’t think his had a red seconds hand though. I’m now wanting one of your hi-beat dress watches. Thanks for the great content Marc!
Too much Islander? nah if anything I'd like to see more Mark, your brand has a lot to offer at a really great price, I would like to see a turtle style watch in a flat crystal soon! double domes just freak my eyes out under water LOL
Would have to concur with your suspicion. I bought my skx009 because it was being discontinued and I wanted a piece of 'history'. Was actually my first real 'dive' watch even though I learned to dive at 16. I've since also bought my first two islanders(on the way as we speak) and will certainly get a few more. Trying to hold off buying another before those get here.
I would love to have the band off of the 007 in the Islander. You should offer a band like that. That would be my daily wear watch. Another great video Marc.
Wow. You are going after Seiko? Daaaamn! Remember the shoulders you are standing on. There is always the point where the grasshopper goes after master.
It's all good fun. Been following for years. I still want you to pimp out your office and tighten up your video room. That just be the Brooklyn Boy in me. Continued success and I am sporting my grail PADI I bought from you. I want that white and baby blue islander but I feel there is something in the pipeline that is glowing to blow my mind from Islander.
Ive waited too long for seiko to release a handwinding skx. They didnt. ISL came, made me pull the trigger (ISL 09), and i never regret it. I ordered all the way to Cebu Philippines. When the watch came I fell in love with it right away. Its one of the best looking watch in my small collection ;-) im thinking of getting the ISL 18 now ;-)
Yes, your watch is better. Thanks for the Seiko certification explanation. And I realized on the lume segment that what I want is a longer, not brighter, lume. I would gladly settle for 30 percent less luminosity after charging if I could maintain that 70% for 100 percent more time. Did any of that make sense? Because when I go to sleep, I know what time it is. Don't need superlume when I go to bed. I want the lume five hours later when I open one eye and look at my watch. Sell me that, with a full dome. Also, your bezel aligns perfectly. The SKX's does not. Nice.
Nice breakdown of the differences between the two watches Marc. At this point the only reason I see to buy the Seiko is the name and history behind it but the prices just don't make sense to me. Any plans on adding new Samurai style Islanders? I would love to see your take on the Samurai hands and some new colour options.
Marc, the SKXs don't stand a chance against your great designs! You Rock! Your designs Rock! I have 10 watches in my "Favorites" in your website, 7 of which are Islanders! Your designs Rock my friend!! (Did I say that already?) Furthermore, in a few days, I'm acquiring your ISL-18. Then, as money permits, ISL-02, ISL-54, ISL-67, ISL-32 and finally, ISL-41 (a great mix of dress, every day and dive watches). Thanks again for sharing this comparison ... and Yes! I don't understand why people don't jump on your Islanders! :-)
I wanted a SKX type (quartz) again as I had one back in 1985 for 18yrs. Hard to find parts like gaskets,seiko rubber bands,etc. back then. Amazing how far it's all come and Marc has taken it to a new level. Writing history I say. So I bought a ISL 44 as it is the same but better watch for me as Marc showed us.
Marc, your critics be damned. I bought SKX009J and ISL-18 and I am happy and satisfied with both purchases, including a blue and black Mako USA II. Just sitting here waiting for your next creation that will pique my interest. 😁
For what 95% of diver watch buyers will use their watch for, the Islander is better for the price. Having said that have purchased a Seiko diver for that diver certification and the Seiko diver heritage. Cool to have. I also plan to purchase an Islander watch. Best of both worlds.
You might have won over another buyer.... maybe. One of the coolest developments during the time I have been a LIW customer, is the advent of customizing watches. We all have our own needs and wants when it comes to watches. For instance, I would be very interested in purchasing a 43mm version with a DD sapphire on a J-style bracelet with a Pepsi bezel insert and a white dial.... or perhaps that awesome wave dial, when it becomes available. I need to look into that further. Will your customers have the opportunity to make these sorts of choices? Keep up the great content!
Great creation Marc. Maybe you should increase the difference between Islander and Seiko as an intro low price for a set time. Then close the gap as you get positive reviews. Just a thought.
Great stuff Marc. Glad you took the best details from all these dive watches and made your own. Gutsy move. Next time I need a dive watch, which is always a Citizen or Seiko, I will look at yours first. You’re pricing these right too. And your getting into bracelets now is also good. Keep it up. Love watching you expand and giving your customers more choices. 👍🏻
I love my Islander. A reliable, rugged, rock-solid watch and still great value despite the UK import charges. Can't understand the negatives in the comments here. What's not to like?
The ISL-013 I ordered from LIW actually arrived last week. So far it’s making a good impression. The movement accuracy is a bit unsteady, but it’s in line with other Seiko divers I have like the mini-Turtle and the 5KX. The black coating looks good. The nylon strap length does take some getting used to (the seam where it forms the spring bar loop is a bit stiff) but I think it’ll get more comfortable with time on wrist. About the only negative I can find (and it’s not really Mark’s fault) is that there was a $70CDN customs surcharge I had to pay in order to collect the watch from the post office. (Since they would have levied the surcharge with any watch bought from a US site, it’s not a surprise, but potential customers from outside the US should be aware of this.)
Im holding out for the re-stocking of the ISL-28. I'm also eyeing that Emerald Isle, not sure if I should jump on the Green Isle now. Or hold out a little longer on the 28. My kid brother absolutely loves the ISL-18 I got him for his birthday. I scored BIG points with his B-day gift.....
I would advise you to go ahead and jump on that green Isle now before it goes out of stock. This is from my experience on the first stock of ISL-18. I had to wait four months for the restock to become available.
To be honest I have not purchased a SKX but has wanted to, but the cost if a SKX does not merit the purchase and since it was discontinued it just has gotten higher. The Islanders has been a great alternative and watches on Aliexpress have been as well. That stated the closest to the SKX is the islander and I have been considering the purchase. This video actually answered many questions I have had, such as the case. Thank you Mark for the video and from what I know you are manufacturing them yourself correct?
I have 2 Islanders (06 and 27). They are incredible watches. I just bought a scratch and dent 007 from your site. They watch is pristine and everything but after wearing my Islander watch, the 007 leaves something to be desired.
Thank Marc great video! Still waiting for my first Islander. I would love to see a black faced Islander like the ISL 18 the gray bezel would really set it off. Looking forward to ISL 1 or 2.
I was gonna buy an SKX and mod it... So I bought an Islander. If I was keeping it stock the SKX would be a great buy, especially a few years ago. Now that they're so expensive, the Islander just makes more sense.
Had I seen this before I decided buying the SKX007, I would have gotten this one. The 38mm diameter is very attractive to me and considering the materials on this watch, it's a more practical choice for me.
Good comparison. The Islander definitely has the better overall specs but it’s not a Seiko. I love my Seikos while being frustrated with the company sometimes. Such is the life of a Seikopath. Really nice watches for the money though. The wave dial with just the date is great!
Long Island Watch Would you ever do a wave dial with no day or date, 3 o’clock crown, with the yachtmaster bezel? That sounds awesome in my head. Also, would you ever just do an Islander line with no day/date? Would be neat to see more time only divers. Thanks.
Nice comparison. I was wondering why the Islander looked more blue than the Seiko. As always, happy you make 38mm as Seiko has largely abandoned the skinny dudes.
Hey Mark, I think the main reason people buy the Seiko SKX is mostly brand recognition and it's an original design that's well known and desierable. I do like the islander better to be honest. have you ever considered filming an ISO test on one of your watches? just to prove it's capable of passing the test?
The guy says that this channel is becoming too much of an islander channel. They would talk crap about a capitalist that lives in a capitalist society in the middle of a pandemic where capitalism is the only thing that is holding it together. So aggravating. Blessings to you brother Good luck on this new venture I think that they're really good looking 👍
I disagree with this type of video. Obviously, you're trying to sell watches, but this is not consumer-friendly. As the business reviewing your own products you lose all credibility and objectivity. You should allow the watches to stand for themselves and let 3rd parties review Island watches.
I disagree with this opinion. There is obvious,full disclosure and he sells both, while admitting the islanders is more profitable for his company.
This is the whole point of youtube. 3rd party? Do you know why the islander has not been reviewed by large channels? Cause they want some sort of kickback. I ain't naming names but I ain't doing that.
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DanNacht He states almost all of what you just said in the first minute of his video, but more thoughtfully.
There are a lot of third parties who review the Islander. All are mostly positive. I upgraded my Orient Mako II which is basically an SKX style. With the ceramic lumbed bezel insert and sapphire crystal and coin edge bezel. All from Long island watch. They are all designed for the SKX and fit the Orient perfect.
A customer once said to me, "I will buy what you're selling and will continue to buy from you because you are an honest salesman." Sold.
Thank you
@@islandwatch totally agree! Honesty is EVERYTHING!
Don’t forget: Buying a watch from Mark means your also becoming great customer service. He really helped me out with a watch that got lost during transport. Thanks again for that Marc. Will soon order another one.
The chapter ring on my Islander is aligned, so, there’s that.
It hurts how true this is
YES!!!
This is just to verify seiko authenticity
@@ryanthomas9306 🤣🤣🤣…🤔
SKX keeps selling because of the name. The islander has more value, but not the history or name of the SKX. It's why Mercedes can sell entry level plastic shit boxes for a premium price. The name.
even the mako has more value nowadays.
Marc telling us he doesn’t get why we still buy the seiko and I bought one a week after his first islander release. I’ll say because the watch I wanted for a long time was the skx007j and I knew that buying a “homage” or equivalent watch was not going to make me happy. I have now modded it the way i wanted and I’m extremely happy with it. I could have paid less for more with his islander but I would’ve never be as satisfied as I actually am with my purchase. Buy the watch you really want! If an islander is your thing then go for it. If seiko is the one for you earn those extra $ and get the watch you really desire.
This is precisely my feelings; if its what you want and like, go for it!
If only everyone could apply this comment to the watches they purchase and collect in general! I think sooo many individuals buy watches to please others or to buy what people say they should buy. Don’t buy an skx or ANY watch because it’s what you’re “supposed” to buy. Buy what you love! Break the norm and have fun! I do think the island watch line is so unique even if they are spin offs because they are so unique and totally spec’d out and tailored to the enthusiast. Props to you Marc and I may have to get one after hesitating for a while. Spot on brother!
Couldn't have said it better. Well said. 👏
Tal Ron I agree. One of the main cons for me is the logo, maybe it’s being a bit picky but it does matter to me what the dial says. Also the applied markers are not as rounded as the original skx which is one of my preferred characteristics of the original watch. Just get what you truly want and you’ll not be disappointed!
Unless you modded your SKX with factory Seiko parts then I don't see the difference. If you would have kept yours stock then I could off seen the argument. But, wear what ever makes you happy is the bottom line.
After careful consideration, I want both.
Awesome.
The Islander offers great value, but a Genuine Seiko offers brand recognition and heritage. Like them both by the way!
Fair enough!
the SKX makes a lot of sense from that standpoint if you do not plan to mod them. However, once you've modded it you may as well have bought the homage.
The Islander is clearly the better specd watch, and a very good looking one! But we all know this hobby isn't just about specs...
Very true, thanks.
The bottom line is islander watch use seiko movement. It’s just outer shell with inner seiko heart beat.
Strangely for some it is all about the specs and nothing else. And it seems like for some the cheaper the watch the more obsessed they get about telling you how you got ripped off for paying $50-100 more than you should have for a $200 watch because there's some no name Chinese spec monster they say you should have bought off of AliExpress even though it looks nothing like the watch you bought. 🤔😆
@@Strideo1 people forget the cost of doing business. Seiko spent millions upon millions to design, develop in-house movement, and advertise the watches to make them popular in the first place or these micro/homages wouldn't exist in the first place. They also have to be sold through distributors/retailers which will instantly cause micros/homages to double in price. Finally, even if the homages are made with better spec and parts, in the history of watches, none of them will be considered an icon and have collectible value. You can buy a steinhart homage that have better build/parts vs original Rolex milsub for tiny fraction but would the Steinhart down the road be more collectible and increase in value vs Rolex...I think we all know the answer
I just want a nice looking watch that functions well and is affordable to regular dudes (not a watch snob).
The Islander never gets old and always good to see it in the videos, Thanks Marc. The winner for my money is the Islander. The heart is basically the same, where the Islander jumps ahead is the build specs. (no mod parts needed) Factor in the price of sapphire, ceramic and better bracelet and Seiko is left in the dust.
Nice words, thank you.
The SKX is a beautiful icon of the watch world. It might not be the best watch, but there's something very special about it. Thank you for keeping it alive with the Islander brand. I'm sure that I'll own more than one Islanders!
I’m a huge Seiko fan. But, I’ve been very frustrated over how large their divers generally are, particularly in terms of thickness. With a 6.5” wrist, not much over 12mm of thickness wears comfortably on my wrist. It would be GREAT to have more slimmer dive watch options. Perhaps you could accommodate that in a future Islander release. Just a thought.
Thanks for the idea
Check out the VAER dive watches. They will ship in October, and are under 13mm thick.
Check out the 42mm Gycine Combat Sub...Thinnest automatic diver I have worn.
@@islandwatch For inspiration could I suggest the skx027. I ended up impulse buying a used SKX027 and I'm loving the smaller size, thinner case, and the coin edge bezel. But with all of the charm of the SKX. White, Gold and Black doesn't hurt either. I'm thinking a thinner SKX would be a slam dunk.
Solar Tuna may be an option.
Go for it Marc, you’ve earned the right to post any video that you like and furthermore your dedication and honesty and integrity responding to the needs of your customers which I’m sure wasn’t cheap to do so also proves why you are succeeding and what an achievement Marc. I’m sure your Dad is proud of you! Thanks for helping where it’s long been needed and keep up the Great work!!
I’ve been wearing an ISL-04 since December and it’s a Incredible Watch! My next one will be the ISL-13 and a ISL-25 for my wife when they get restocked. Keep up the great work and Stay Safe and Healthy!
Will do, thank you.
We all know that you don't do reviews but your Watch and Learn segment is the the best out there. Well done.
Thank you!
IMHO this channel has the perfect amount of Islander. I’m starting a new job in the next few months and I’m going to reward myself with one of the turtle style Islanders, just haven’t decided which one
Thank you!!
Thanks for the honest comparison, Mark. I bought my SKX from you over a year ago, with a 12-hour sapphire bezel. I have bad eyesight, so I wanted the bright lume. This is the best watch I have for visibility day and night. You gave me the best price, and I really enjoy the watch. I live in Canada, and because of 8 months of wet winter, I wanted a dive watch. I'm outside a lot, and did not want to have to worry, period. I would consider buying an Islander in the future, with a blue or green dial and bezel. My only dislike of both the Islander and the Seiko watches is the minute and hour hands. I just don't like the Seiko styling. I would get more squared-off, bigger hands. I understand you offer customization on the Islander, so that's what I would be thinking about if I were to buy one in the future. At this point, I'm saving money for my first luxury watch. Either Omega or Grand Seiko.
You simply took the next logical step (in my opinion) of updating the "SKX line-up" where Seiko failed to do so in their S5 line.
I have the SKX009J for its history and provenance but I love what LIW has done in modernizing for what Seiko should have done, which is why I bought the drop-dead gorgeous ISL-18. My only complaint: non-logoed bracelet clasp LOL 😄
Thanks! I thought about logo-ing the clasp, but didn't want to be like Squale and have logos everywhere.
Just purchased my 4th Islander watch. So much bang for your buck and the bezel lines up too. Great customer service. Great selection of models and colorways. Marc is an American entrepreneur who's company is giving watch enthusiasts a great product at a great price. Long live the entrepreneurial spirit.
I love my skx but I am frustrated with the short power reserve and inability to hack or hand wind. Switching out the movement means opening the watch and will cost $150. The new seiko 5s with the hand winds are 100 metres rated too. Marcs option makes a lot of sense .. Will wait for the wave face!!
Thanks!
For me, it has to be the SKX. The Islander is specced better, there is no doubt about it. But there is just something about looking down at your wrist and seeing the Seiko logo, a watch company that has been around for 100+ years, providing quality watches for the working man.
exactly
Understood!
You convinced me!! Ordered My ISL 02!!
The extra Nato and rubber straps were also ordered. Outstanding free delivery service un the US. Now I am waiting for My friend Fernando to fly to Perú. Aloha from Peru. This will be my surfing toolwatch.😎
Two years ago when I got more seriously in to watches I _immediately_ called B.S. on the SKX type: trash movement, trash glass, trash bracelet, so-so beze insertl. After you replace all the faulty bits you have a perfect watch, lolol. And all that for only a $1,000 for a modded Seiko.
LONG LIVE LONG ISLAND! LONG LIVE THE ISLANDER! LONG LIVE MARK!
Marc, I'd love to see an Islander in the spirit of a SARB! Please make it happen, they would SELL!
The SKX is an iconic legend from a brand with heritage and a history of innovation. There's just something's that specs can't compete with.
Yes. But no. Its a tool watch. It must be handy. and for me without manual winding it is not. IMHO if u want seiko printed on the dial go to Mini Turtle. Or Sumo, or Samurai
Overrated.
Thanks for these videos Mark!
To anybody who wants to get started on SKX modding, the islander is a much better deal. I learned the hard way.
Keep these mods parts/watches coming!
I love what you are building in regards to the Seiko look-alikes! They have all the specs and the style that I love! Great review as always Mark!!!
Glad you like them!
Love your video's Marc - I think it's so cool that your enthusiasm for watches prompted you to make your own. Hope to one day one an Islander myself, simply knowing your history behind it and the great value it offers. Thanks for all your videos, honesty and knowledge!!! Also - that wave dial is fresh!!! Please keep listening to your customer's Marc - I think that's what makes your products so special.
Before the Islander was released, an SKX007 was at the top of my list. Recently I've been looking forward to buying a special watch for an occasion I have coming up, saving my pennies. Only problem is there's now 4 different Islander models sitting at positions 1-4 on my favorites list. You're doing too good of a job and making the decision to choose just one very difficult. As a fellow engineer who has spent his whole career working in 2 different industries who test to strict standards, I'm glad you have chosen to save cost by not perusing those certs. Great comparison!
Looked at both, bought the Islander. Thanks, Marc. I appreciate all your videos, as well as your creativity in producing the Islander line.
The other day I wore two of my favourite watches. I told my gf it was because I was taking one to get serviced, but the truth is I just wanted to wear them both.
Marc, the design of your watches is great. If you ever make smaller watches, I'm getting one.
I got an SKX for my fathers day gift this year and it was one of my grail watches and I love it, hard to take it off my wrist. However I do really like the Islanders too and will have one very soon
Very sharp watch. Will definitely keep yours in mind when I'm in another buying mood. Enjoy your videos as well. Very informative.
Just received my ISL 02 in uk, fabulous watch, £280 with all charges...great sevice marc .Thanks.
My brother and I bought matching Islanders. He is way more of a watch guy than I am, and was super happy with his 009. Then he saw his Islander. And hasn’t even looked at his 009 since. I enjoy my ISL-2 :)
Sweet
People seem to miss when you said “tongue in cheek”! People mod Seikos all the time with aftermarket non Seiko marked dials. Why not buy a stock watch with all the same features? I will be getting an Islander soon.
Indeed they did!
Yes, I kept looking at modding an SKX to fix the shortcoming, and that looked too time consuming. I could have done a "your watch your way", but an SKX tricked out the way I wanted was nearly $600 ( and that was before the prices shot up ). The Islander got me what I wanted for a fair price. I ended going with the ISL-09 which was fun, just because I had never seen that shade of blue on a watch before. Don't judge me, I might have a thing for blue dive watches.
I appreciate your transparent review and understand the point you are trying to make. Wise people are free to make choices and you are just trying to rationalize their decision making by presenting different options which provide more value for money, no harm in it even if it is your own brand. At least you are upfront about it and acknowledge the shortcomings while comparing those two watches.
I just bought a ISL-01, I'm waiting for stock to come in on the ISL-18 and now I guess I need the wave watch too. You are going to make me go broke...
Sorry :(
It is exactly what I got (ISL-01 and ISL-18). I enjoy wearing them.
ISL 24 and 25 and i will die a happy man 😁
Always wanted an SKX but for the price and the features? I'd go for the Islander!
Cool!
Keep selling, you made your own watch brand that’s now even being sold on eBay... keep it up you’re doing something right. (Selling the right way)
Great video! I own one of each watch. I love them both. I purchased the Seiko because I wanted a piece of horological history. I have since modified my Seiko with A sapphire crystal, ceramic bezel insert an NNH 36 movement.I have also purchased an islander SKX. This watch was a great value. It basically already comes fully modified. I would recommend either watch!
To the person who said that you do too many Islander Watch Videos ; There is NO SUCH THING as too many Islander Watch Videos. They are fantastic! Sapphire crystals - Lumed bezels and Yatch Master bezels - gorgeous! Lot's of options! The only reason I don't have one yet is I'm waiting till they come out with the Blue Saturday and Red Sunday (like the SKX as I love that feature).
I just got my ISL-02 today. I am very extremely impressed with it having wore it for a few hours so far. I was hesitant about that blue hue from the AR, but it is hard to see it in person, but have caught it in a certain light and I got to say I had nothing to hesitate about. The slight shine of blue looks amazing. The lume looks amazing along with the dial, case and bezel! Bracelet looks nice too! I got to say this might be my favorite watch I have owned after owning it for only a few hours so far. I'll be showing it up at work tomorrow. Expect more customers soon. Thank you Marc!
Also I am looking forward to the new GMT model coming soon!
The spec for value on the Islander is unmatched, but brand heritage is ultimately what made me decide on the 009. Do plan on picking up an Islander in the future though..I think they both can be enjoyed as their own separate thing. Maybe the numerals on the embossed ceramic insert would look better closer together? Just a cheeky suggestion!
True, thank you
Just bought a yellow islander, such a great watch! Thanks Marc!
Damnit someone was faster. Thank you Marc, the video I was honestly waiting for.
LOLOL
Seiko brand is iconic. Give people the option to go sterile dial and sales of your microbrand vs. Seiko will increase greatly.
Okay!
Second this. Sterile dial I would buy, it's tough to establish a brand, and I think Islander is a good brand, reminds me of Singer Porsches (intended as a huge compliment), but as with Singer sometimes you want the better/improved product without the aftermarket branding.
I also would prefer a sterile dial. All the marketing stuff can fit on the caseback.
Everybody appreciates Marc. I have an SKX and will buy an Islander as well because we support the enterprise and the risk he has taken on with his business. He has made a tribute watch and somehow made it more than that with design flair and customer focus. 38mm with a time zone Bezel please.
I own three Islanders, two of which are SKX style. I think some buy the SKX because they owned one in the past and it has nostalgia for them, and then there are others like me that are new to collecting and see the historical significance of the watch and want to own a piece of that history. I type this while wearing an ISL-18, which is the favorite of both my daughter and wife. They prefer it over far more expensive timepieces I own.
Can never be too much Islander! Can't wait to be able to call one my own someday.
I've just added an STO Samurai in my collection. Have been eyeing the Islanders for a while now. They're moving up in the soon-to-buy list. Thanks for your video and your constant effort in improving your own.
Thank you
I’ve been eyeing the Islander and doing lots of research on it vs other watches. I think it’s an absolutely brilliant value for money. Can’t wait to place an order. Thank you Marc.
Great watch! Marc I think you should make islander wall clock! with quiet sweep with lumed hands and markers! that works on single AA battery
Cool idea!
I would buy an Islander wall clock! 😀
I would buy one too if it had a quiet sweep
Love the Islander, wish there was a GMT variant, mostly because I'm in the market for one lol
Me too, i've been asking marc for a year!
I love my Islander. It's so comfortable, just the right size, I really love it. I got the white face with the blue ceramic bezel..... such a cool summer watch.
I'm not beholden to any brand. I buy what I think is the best value for money. 3 years ago I would've said Seiko has great value but since they restructured their pricing... Not so much. I'll take my islander any day.
Thank you!
You were honest and right on all counts. If Seiko sold you Limibrite, I would never look at them again (well, maybe their solar divers). I definitely have the Islander full face lume diver in my future. Keep on keepin’s Marc!❤️
Two days ago I got my islander isl-09. The blue one. I own a Seiko SKX, Orient Triton and the islander. Man, the colour is stunning with the islander.
Took 3 Weeks to get to Germany but not was worth the time. The Islander is the better deal. Everything you would modify on a Seiko ist already installed. Love it
But "it" was. "Not" is one of these autocorrect difficulties
Mr. Mark I am still waiting for a true GMT in your brand, but you must admit may your watch have great features and looks great, The Seiko watch is fantastic looking, and great working watch too. Thanks for your opinion.
Thanks for watching.
watching this wearing my isl-05 on an MN strap from erika, absolutely killer watch
i was basically only wearing g-shocks prior to picking up the islander and i swear this thing gets more wrist time than any other watch i own now
keep it up mark! cant wait to see what sort of islanders you'll be selling a couple years down the line
can we expect any 38mm pilot islanders in future?
Thank you! There are more pilots coming soon, but not 38
My dad got to wanting an auto, as he doesn’t currently own one and the Islander is the first one I recommended. I’m not an expert but I probably know more about watches than anybody else my dad knows so I was the one he came to when he wanted an opinion on a good auto. You get so much for the money and he ordered one like you’re wearing (the Yacht Master look alike) I don’t think his had a red seconds hand though. I’m now wanting one of your hi-beat dress watches. Thanks for the great content Marc!
Finally a CZcams commercial (Laco) I found useful
Too much Islander? nah if anything I'd like to see more Mark, your brand has a lot to offer at a really great price, I would like to see a turtle style watch in a flat crystal soon! double domes just freak my eyes out under water LOL
Would have to concur with your suspicion. I bought my skx009 because it was being discontinued and I wanted a piece of 'history'. Was actually my first real 'dive' watch even though I learned to dive at 16. I've since also bought my first two islanders(on the way as we speak) and will certainly get a few more. Trying to hold off buying another before those get here.
Hi Mark. Love the islanders. Can you offer duty free shipping to the UK? Thanks
I would love to have the band off of the 007 in the Islander. You should offer a band like that. That would be my daily wear watch. Another great video Marc.
Wow. You are going after Seiko? Daaaamn! Remember the shoulders you are standing on. There is always the point where the grasshopper goes after master.
Joaquin Ochoa True but in this case he is taking off where Seiko has discontinued.
I mean it all in good fun. I understand I stand on the shoulders of giants.
Most of the parts are still Seiko so....
It's all good fun. Been following for years. I still want you to pimp out your office and tighten up your video room. That just be the Brooklyn Boy in me. Continued success and I am sporting my grail PADI I bought from you. I want that white and baby blue islander but I feel there is something in the pipeline that is glowing to blow my mind from Islander.
Ive waited too long for seiko to release a handwinding skx. They didnt. ISL came, made me pull the trigger (ISL 09), and i never regret it. I ordered all the way to Cebu Philippines. When the watch came I fell in love with it right away. Its one of the best looking watch in my small collection ;-) im thinking of getting the ISL 18 now ;-)
Yes, your watch is better. Thanks for the Seiko certification explanation. And I realized on the lume segment that what I want is a longer, not brighter, lume. I would gladly settle for 30 percent less luminosity after charging if I could maintain that 70% for 100 percent more time. Did any of that make sense? Because when I go to sleep, I know what time it is. Don't need superlume when I go to bed. I want the lume five hours later when I open one eye and look at my watch. Sell me that, with a full dome. Also, your bezel aligns perfectly. The SKX's does not. Nice.
Thank you
Nice breakdown of the differences between the two watches Marc. At this point the only reason I see to buy the Seiko is the name and history behind it but the prices just don't make sense to me.
Any plans on adding new Samurai style Islanders? I would love to see your take on the Samurai hands and some new colour options.
There will be more.
Marc, the SKXs don't stand a chance against your great designs!
You Rock! Your designs Rock! I have 10 watches in my "Favorites" in your website, 7 of which are Islanders! Your designs Rock my friend!! (Did I say that already?)
Furthermore, in a few days, I'm acquiring your ISL-18. Then, as money permits, ISL-02, ISL-54, ISL-67, ISL-32 and finally, ISL-41 (a great mix of dress, every day and dive watches).
Thanks again for sharing this comparison ... and Yes! I don't understand why people don't jump on your Islanders! :-)
I wanted a SKX type (quartz) again as I had one back in 1985 for 18yrs. Hard to find parts like gaskets,seiko rubber bands,etc. back then. Amazing how far it's all come and Marc has taken it to a new level. Writing history I say. So I bought a ISL 44 as it is the same but better watch for me as Marc showed us.
Thanks.
Marc, your critics be damned. I bought SKX009J and ISL-18 and I am happy and satisfied with both purchases, including a blue and black Mako USA II. Just sitting here waiting for your next creation that will pique my interest. 😁
Thanks!
For what 95% of diver watch buyers will use their watch for, the Islander is better for the price. Having said that have purchased a Seiko diver for that diver certification and the Seiko diver heritage. Cool to have. I also plan to purchase an Islander watch. Best of both worlds.
OK.....finally a watch I really want....the wave dial. Sign me up. When can I order? Mountains next??
You might have won over another buyer.... maybe. One of the coolest developments during the time I have been a LIW customer, is the advent of customizing watches. We all have our own needs and wants when it comes to watches. For instance, I would be very interested in purchasing a 43mm version with a DD sapphire on a J-style bracelet with a Pepsi bezel insert and a white dial.... or perhaps that awesome wave dial, when it becomes available. I need to look into that further. Will your customers have the opportunity to make these sorts of choices?
Keep up the great content!
Great creation Marc. Maybe you should increase the difference between Islander
and Seiko as an intro low price for a set time. Then close the gap as you get positive reviews.
Just a thought.
Great stuff Marc. Glad you took the best details from all these dive watches and made your own. Gutsy move. Next time I need a dive watch, which is always a Citizen or Seiko, I will look at yours first. You’re pricing these right too. And your getting into bracelets now is also good. Keep it up. Love watching you expand and giving your customers more choices. 👍🏻
Thanks Jim
I love my Islander. A reliable, rugged, rock-solid watch and still great value despite the UK import charges. Can't understand the negatives in the comments here. What's not to like?
I'm ready for that wave dial watch, marky mark
Ok!
You have my vote. Keep on doing what you are doing. Can't wait to see what you introduce next.
Thanks!
When will you make a 38mm version of the yacht master clone?
Possible
That’s a good shout👍👍
@@islandwatch do it pls
Yes! Love that Yacht look alike!!!
@@islandwatch more 38mm please
The ISL-013 I ordered from LIW actually arrived last week. So far it’s making a good impression. The movement accuracy is a bit unsteady, but it’s in line with other Seiko divers I have like the mini-Turtle and the 5KX. The black coating looks good. The nylon strap length does take some getting used to (the seam where it forms the spring bar loop is a bit stiff) but I think it’ll get more comfortable with time on wrist.
About the only negative I can find (and it’s not really Mark’s fault) is that there was a $70CDN customs surcharge I had to pay in order to collect the watch from the post office. (Since they would have levied the surcharge with any watch bought from a US site, it’s not a surprise, but potential customers from outside the US should be aware of this.)
Thanks so much. Taxes!
I love my Islander watch & want another. You cant beat the price 🔥
Im holding out for the re-stocking of the ISL-28. I'm also eyeing that Emerald Isle, not sure if I should jump on the Green Isle now. Or hold out a little longer on the 28. My kid brother absolutely loves the ISL-18 I got him for his birthday. I scored BIG points with his B-day gift.....
The Emerald is gorgeous!
@@islandwatch any hints as of new models coming out 6 months or a year from now? If not, I will jump and get the green. Thanks Marc.
I would advise you to go ahead and jump on that green Isle now before it goes out of stock. This is from my experience on the first stock of ISL-18. I had to wait four months for the restock to become available.
I'm glad I got my SKX when I could. I wouldn't rule out a Islander, since it has good specs and value.
To be honest I have not purchased a SKX but has wanted to, but the cost if a SKX does not merit the purchase and since it was discontinued it just has gotten higher. The Islanders has been a great alternative and watches on Aliexpress have been as well. That stated the closest to the SKX is the islander and I have been considering the purchase. This video actually answered many questions I have had, such as the case. Thank you Mark for the video and from what I know you are manufacturing them yourself correct?
I have 2 Islanders (06 and 27). They are incredible watches. I just bought a scratch and dent 007 from your site. They watch is pristine and everything but after wearing my Islander watch, the 007 leaves something to be desired.
Thank Marc great video! Still waiting for my first Islander. I would love to see a black faced Islander like the ISL 18 the gray bezel would really set it off. Looking forward to ISL 1 or 2.
I love your Islander watches!
I was gonna buy an SKX and mod it... So I bought an Islander. If I was keeping it stock the SKX would be a great buy, especially a few years ago. Now that they're so expensive, the Islander just makes more sense.
Had I seen this before I decided buying the SKX007, I would have gotten this one. The 38mm diameter is very attractive to me and considering the materials on this watch, it's a more practical choice for me.
Good comparison. The Islander definitely has the better overall specs but it’s not a Seiko. I love my Seikos while being frustrated with the company sometimes. Such is the life of a Seikopath.
Really nice watches for the money though. The wave dial with just the date is great!
Totally agree
Long Island Watch Would you ever do a wave dial with no day or date, 3 o’clock crown, with the yachtmaster bezel? That sounds awesome in my head.
Also, would you ever just do an Islander line with no day/date? Would be neat to see more time only divers. Thanks.
Having in mind the recent price bump of the SKX's, they really don't stand a chance
Thanks!
Nice comparison. I was wondering why the Islander looked more blue than the Seiko. As always, happy you make 38mm as Seiko has largely abandoned the skinny dudes.
Hey Mark, I think the main reason people buy the Seiko SKX is mostly brand recognition and it's an original design that's well known and desierable. I do like the islander better to be honest. have you ever considered filming an ISO test on one of your watches? just to prove it's capable of passing the test?
Great video watch and learn too haha and a superb Islander watch.
Really need thoes 38mn islanders to be back in stock. The fact that they're all sold out compared to the 42 mm speaks volumes
love all your watches, some day i will buy myself one, dont have alot of money
No problem, thank you.
The guy says that this channel is becoming too much of an islander channel. They would talk crap about a capitalist that lives in a capitalist society in the middle of a pandemic where capitalism is the only thing that is holding it together. So aggravating. Blessings to you brother Good luck on this new venture I think that they're really good looking 👍