What buried one billion nautiloid fossils at the Grand Canyon at the same time? - Dr. Steve Austin
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Geologist Steve Austin and Del Tackett visit a spectacular fossil bed within the Redwall Limestone in the Grand Canyon. The bed contains over a billion Rayonnoceras nautiloids (squid-like creatures with cone-shaped shells) that appear to have been killed simultaneously. Del and Dr. Austin finish their trip to the Grand Canyon discussing how huge layers of rocks are a memorial to God's global judgement.
Dr. Steve Austin is a field research geologist who has done research on six of the seven continents of the world. His research has taken him by helicopter into the crater on Mount St. Helens, by bush plane onto glaciers in Alaska, by raft through the Grand Canyon, on horseback into the high Sierra, by elevator into the world’s deepest coal mines, by SCUBA onto the Great Barrier Reef, by rail into Korean backcountry, by foot onto barren plateaus of southern Argentina, and by four-wheel drive into remote desert areas of Israel, Jordan and Saudi Arabia. Dr. Austin received his PhD from Pennsylvania State University in sedimentary geology.
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In 1994 my wife and I visited the South Rim of Grand Canyon. I hiked to the river and back descending on the Kaibab trail and ascending Bright Angel trail. Somewhere along the way I left the trail and crossed along the plateaus of stone with grass on top, passing from one to the next where they attach to the cliff wall halfway down from the rim to the river. Between them are steep little side canyons, some of them are so steep as to be vertical. I saw fossils in one of these canyons. It was accessible to climb down from the plateau to the canyon floor, that's why I walked through it. The fossil layer was breaking off in chunks, it was tilted almost to vertical, it was dark brown and about one foot thick and contained innumerable fossils. This fossil layer was VAST, it covered one entire wall of a side canyon moving between the Tonto trail and Bright Angel trail, maybe an hour's walk from the river. Common among the fossils were organisms which resembled gigantic centipedes but with long spikey legs. Also among them were seashell organisms which certainly looked marine to me. Also among them were curlicue spiral looking creatures which I never decided if they lived that way or died that way. To my knowledge nobody else is talking about these fossils. I carried a couple of chunks for a while and fully intended to keep them as souvenirs, laws forbidding this be damned. But the weight, the grinding weight of them caused me to cast them aside. Too bad, because they were amazing.
Wow that is interesting thanks fpr sharing.
On the North Rim of the Grand Canyon. I was there 20 or so years ago and there was sea shell fossiles on the top of the ridge that was between two canyons. There was a sign there that said on one side where one of the canyon was that said the colorado river never flowed there. On the other side was the colorado river. Both of the canyon sections on the sides of the ridge were just about the same depth. That tells me the Colorado didn't cut the canyon like we are so often told. The last time i went to the same location, the sign was gone and all of the fossiles were chipped out of there with no signs of them. I was able to find one remaining up under a rock. Who cut these out? What a loss for us. I am sure some college class went up there and did that. Sure, cut out the evidence that shows the opposite of what the colleges are preaching and so it is easy to preach the lie. Yes, colleges preach.
Hey Roger, I'd like to say that one reason could be that the River creates enough depth in elevation then it's up to gravity & rainfall to just carry the sediment to the river. And the grand canyon wouldve been part of the western interior seaway before the continents laramidia & Appalachia merged and formed the rocky mountains. & this can explain why Only marine fossils are found around there. As for the shells, people just likely collected them as souvenirs
A 6 foot squid, even today, is lethal to humans. Remarkable!
@Priesthoodagitator We have much larger squid than 6 footers even today. Divers face serious injury and death swimming with big squid, but some have done it.
@@tanglediver yes but that doesn't explain how there are less species today than back then. This person's point is still valid. By the way there are fossils of things that look like humongous dragon flies and things like that. They definitely are not that size today. Devolving not evolving.
I always always look forward to these presentations. Very good information and explained so that even I can understand.
*amazing work, congratulations for figuring it out*
This is extremely interesting. All died at the same time and are aligned as if in current. Amazing.
W Brown according to the diagram show, it was only about 60% in the same direction which isn't mich of a majority. Considering they are laterally areanged for the most part, its more likely they were aligned by wave action much in the same way that you see on coral islands beaches today. As far as dying at the same time, the "same time" could be anywhere between 1,000 and 100,000 years, but only the ones that had been preserved in that years build up from lets say a landslide were the only ones not ground up and carried back out to sea.
Mighty to save.
@@nunyabisnass1141 that is of course a possibility when thinking under the evolutionary paradigm. Interesting information though.
@Michael Fritsche
You will recognize the Author soon enough.
I’ve heard people diss this by claiming only a percentage of fossils are aligned,or better yet how that’s what they say in the creation paradigm. However that doesn’t explain why archeologists are dropping the long term theory that I was taught in school. The long term theory simply doesn’t address all the discoveries made
Thanks. Hoping to see more of other formations.
Thank you so much . I am looking at the world around me , with new eyes and a fresh understanding. God bless you and yours.
Nice video Del.. I learn something new each time..
I like the way these videos don't attack people's beliefs with insults and slander or condescending quotes.
They just offer the evidence and let people make up their own mind.
The other camp could learn from your methods.
Thanks again
Marty..
Yes I agree. "When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers." - Socrates
@Sean T Neither do you.
@Universal Truth This is the exact reason it is nearly impossible to conversation with liberals.
It always ends with accusations of being some sort of "ism" and/or "ist".
Interesting perhaps to note that the Grand Canyon is a stone rainbow. A promise preserved in stone as a monument and reminder.
I sure would love to give someone, anyone, the rest of the story...
Love this videos so much. Please keep doing it....👍
I love your work. Keep on keepin on.
Great documentary 👍👍 very impressed.. Thank you so much 💐
This is an awesome watch! Thank you for sharing this.
Thanks so much for this wonderful presentation!
Very insightful!!
At the speed this flow would freeze I was told about this sixty years ago as with the animals in ice still fresh frozen
There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true and the other is to refuse to believe what is. ~ Soren Kierkegaard
Love me some Kerkegeerd
He said model and not paradigm. I've been waiting for this. :)
Love this stuff thanks!
Thank you. Enjoyed !
So, what happened? Did the nautiloids drown in the flood? Why didn't the fish drown too?
Brud No 1, Many of the fish were killed during the Great Flood but they were sorted by the flood waters in different areas/layers.
Water came from the deep, within the earth, most likely extremely hot, it would kill everything within its reach before cooling.
Over 90 percent of "fossils" are marine life! Jesus loves you!
So this fossil layer was basically made the same way as the coal layer! I wonder if the are in the same layer? The hydroplane theory makes a lot of sense imo!
Its hydro-PLATE. But no the two types of strata are separated by a pretty wide margin so it is literally impossible to be the same layer, otherwise you'd find these types of fossils mixed in with coal, and coal mixed with nautaloids, and thats never happened.
When he says they were formed at the same time, thats a very relative measure. By "at the same time" does he mean literally at the same time, in the same event, or in the same event but separated in stages ove the year or so the earth was supposed to be flooded? The problem with sea creatures as well as most other animals is that even they tend to float when they die, so depending on the size of the creature it can be afloat for days, weeks, or months if its as large as a whale. This means you would have cadavars floating around and sinking over a period of months, so at what point was the coal layer laid down? Certainly if all except those on the ark perished, and we have millions of nautaloid fossils, why then don't we see any shells, fragments, or vertibrate remains in any of the millions of tons of coal we've extracted?
In trying to answer the simple questions they inevitably create more complex explainations whose answers contradict previous explainations. One solution to this is that theres a huge global conspiracy to hide evidence where its found, which is just pure desperation.
@@nunyabisnass1141 Its hydroplane...because he said the 50/50 mudflow literally hydroplaned. Hydroplate Theory is how the flood occurred.
Your comment seems disingenuous because the "mainstream" explanation leaves one with more questions than answers. In fact your whole rationale is an exercise in futility. "We dont find nautaloids in coal deposits therefore the flood didnt occur". Thats a logical fallacy. The cause may have been the same but the sequence of events was different. The fact is the evidence of a global flood is all around you and it doesnt require faith or theology to believe in.
@@jmichaelrice2 walt brown is the author of the theory this guy is citing, and its called hydro plate theory. Hydroplaning is the action of something sliding over a liquid type surface. What did he say eas sloding over a liquid?
No we don't find any marine fossils in coal layers. We have marine fossils above, and below coal layers, but not in coal layers in anywhere near the volume they are in other layers.
Which logical fallacy did i use?
@Priesthoodagitator right, so how does that add to the conversation?
@@nunyabisnass1141 and we have millions of nautaloid fossils, why then don't we see any shells, fragments, or vertibrate remains in any of the millions of tons of coal we've extracted? ,,, umm so multinations who extract coal. would stop if they found a fossil? or do you think maybe when they are pulling out the coal it just goes into the truck as normal and pushed thru a rock machine.? ?
Thank you, I am so glad to finally hear someone with authority state that the grand canyon looks like a cataclysmic even to him. I am not academically trained or anything like that, but my common sense when I viewed it was, no that has to have started out as a cataclysm. Like a huge body of water, a sea, suddenly emptied and an underwater chasm became hugely enlarged by the event.
@Richard Fox Did you watch the video? The point of the video was the discussion of the evidence of a cataclysmic event. So why are you repeating the well known theory of the opposite here?
@Richard Fox I already said that I am not an academic, so if you want to have an academic discussion with a person on the same level of education as yourself, why are you trying to convince me? Discuss or debate with other academics, leave me out of it. OK? Who are you anyway?
Wondering if that was from one of the many polar flips?
@Richard Fox You also interpret the evidence according to your preconceived notions.
@Richard Fox it looks just like the waimea canyon in Kauai.
I've been to both places. The Kauaii canyon is just a small scale size one but they look exactly the same pretty much.
To me .
So what do they say caused the canyon in Hawaii there.
Great video. Very intresting.
That high speed tumbling is normal when High Man project in the early Stratosphere / Exosphere :Outer-limit Helium ballon human :Col.Joseph Kittinger; during his initial jump off , he anticipated high speed ,with very little resistance , and experienced “ dead spins “ due to lack of atmospheric pressure there !
Same condition can happened with the giant Nautiloids .
I really enjoy these presentations.
Speaking as a layman, a number of people flying over the southern end of Grand Canyon have said it looks like a big washout. From what Doctor Austin says, it was a washout. For decades, I've asked myself, "Where did all that water come from? It couldn't have all come from the sky?" Then a few years ago, I learned that the earth's crust contains several times as much water (mostly fresh water) than all the oceans of the world combined. A big shake-up in the earth's crust could have pushed massive amounts of water to the surface and covered the present-day Grand Canyon with water a mile deep (or more) moving at high speed.
...or, a massive ice-dam collapse, caused by vulcanism under the 4km thick ice, after an ice age....
@@richardwebb9532 Thanks for the insight. As soon as I read your comment, I thought of the massive flood that occurred in the Middle East 6,000 years ago. I had read that melting ice raised water levels behind a mountain range until everything broke loose and flooded the area. I tried to reconstruct it in my mind and couldn't fully accept that hypothesis. Your hypothesis makes more sense.
@@AmericanActionReport thank you. It's only one of many theories, one that seems more probable than "millions of years of erosion"...
@@richardwebb9532 You're welcome. The "millions of years of erosion" hypothesis is a laugh. Before you can have erosion, you must have something to erode. Anyone can see that the Grand Canyon consists of sediment layers a mile deep. The water that carried the sediment there must have been at least that deep. The washout or erosion or whatever it was had to have come after the sediment was deposited; and gradual erosion seems unlikely to have created the washout effect.
@@AmericanActionReport that's a good point, and the pattern for erosion seems wrong too, the continent would be going up and down like a bouncing ball to get that pattern, with dead end canyons that seem to have no water source to carve them....and no lake sediment beds that formed to change the direction of the river either...
Awesome Video
Thank you for your faithful service
nice video bro
If the north rim of the Grand Canyon, was basically an earthen dam, that was later breached, causing a cataclysmic washout, & causing the creation of the canyon, the water that had been held back, would have been a huge amount, many states in diameter, & giving that necessary water flow described. Amazing!
They did find evidence of the beach.
Interesting and fascinating theory!!
Much more interesting than the evolution theory.
Thanks so much !
Fascinating!!
God's word is true and accurate.
No god means no word. Dr. Steve Austin's word, on the other hand, is hogwash.
@B B Explain. Please enlighten with your great knowledge.
Amen... His Holy Word is the Only Source of Infallibility..!
Where I live there was an ocean but none of these just limestone with sea shells and sand dollars
Look at the top of the slab at 3:03 in the video. I count 14 nautiloids (except the vertical ones). Of these, 9 point to the lower right, 3 to the upper left, 1 to the upper right and one to the lower left. Not exactly all lined up as if deposited in a strong a current, at least not to my eye that is.
I wouldn’t expect them to be all lined up in the same direction. They were buried suddenly in mud, and they wouldn’t just lay there before dying, they’d all be moving frantically around before succumbing to death.
Well if they were tumbling along in a swift current it would seem they could be pointing in different directions.
Thank you for duing this series.
Really? ....... "duing"?
Check out Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson. interesting take on the “flood story”
Actually, he didn't really answer the question.
Where did the limestone come from?
Fascinating!
Answer: the catastrophic Flood.
/Lonewolf Liberties
The stones indeed cry out ..
Could the limestone have been growing in watery caverns deep inside the earth's crust, where the warmth of the water and the lush nutrients in the water caused the limestone to grow rapidly? Then, possibly, when the 'cisterns of the great deep' were broken up at the time of the flood, the soft limestone was forced out in great quantity just like in the by-gone era of gold miners who used water under pressure (hydraulic operations) to mine gold out of gravel deposits.
jga6147 You forgot to mention The Wishful-Thinking Fairy who, as every one knows, is needed to make such flights of fancy semi-believable.
@@alanthompson8515 Is that you, Wishful-Thinking Fairy? Sorry I forgot to mention you.
@@jga6147 Nah, I'm the Pedantic Pixie.
@@alanthompson8515 Ok, then. Why don’t you tell us about the Wishful-Thinking Fairy, since I forgot to.
@@jga6147 Well, I don't think I should, but whatTF! From the little I know (she's very shy), she might want to point out that limestone is a rock. Then, that rocks are not alive. And also that no amount of warm water and lush nutrients would ever make a rock grow even slowly, let alone rapidly. She might add that soft limestone doesn't have the strength to hold up cavern roofs deep inside the earth's crust or anywhere else. And perhaps she would end by mentioning that limestone is not a gravel deposit suitable for hyrdaulic operations. Apart from these points, there's not much to be said about her.
I've seen some here in South Dakota
In Switzerland, we find dinosaur footprints on the flanks of our highest mountains. How come?
@@obiwanduglobi6359 3 words: Plate tectonics & uplift
@@jasondutchman6736 I forgot to flag my comment as irony. Sorry for the noise.
I find these videos so enlightening. Happy Sabbath
Sabbath Shalom
Ok when did this vast movement of material happen? If this happened many millions of years ago where was the location? Plate tectonics could place the locations very far away. what was the age of the nautiloids? Any volcano eruptions or meteor strikes around this time and place happen?
The great flood aka Noah's flood, known and passed down in every civilization across the earth.
My critical thinking started kicking in and I was wondering how the squids were able to be straight up and down 90 degrees from the squid he said was aligned due to the current, when all of a sudden the guy said he grew up on a ranch and could understand it. Good enough for me, case closed on that one.
Some doc who studies IQ has essentially proven that each generation gains on average 15ish IQ points.
Hypocritically speaking let's say you're God. You're pissed that your creation has become so corrupted and decide to use a flood to wipe them out. Now that creature is only 7+ X days out of the cave. So they aren't super bright. You're not going waste time examining the dimensions of the planet. Also if you're only technically concerned with a particular groups corruption. Which according to the story, that's the case. You're not going to nor would you need to flood the entire planet. You would just tell them the world, meaning the world as they knew.
So looking for a planet wide flood is probably a waste time even from inside theological world view.
PS
Never heard them say anything about a Ranch.
Edit
Ranch bit was about decomp not position.
@@orcvsivstitia7608 Pork and Beans, Cottage Cheese and Doritos is all we need to know.
@@orcvsivstitia7608 Except we see evidence of it all over the world. And the Bible says it was over all the earth. God also didn't create us from cave creatures to eventually become smart. We have always been smart. And if you look around you today, I don't see people as having higher IQ then people 50 or 100 years ago. We've just had inventions that make life easier and most people far less intelligent. All we actually see is that it takes us time to develop new technology that spur us forward and usually some level of destruction stops us and resets that innovative momentum. They've found a computer for telling the position of the stars from the Romans. It's a real thing. We still don't know how the pyramids were built. We couldn't properly build them today and they did it with immense precision according to stellar bodies. Yes we have amazing technology now, and the tech we have begets more technology. But what if we were suddenly wiped out except for some of us? We will have memories of what we had, but no way to rebuild it. We would start over with basic materials and material processes.
Limestone can form instantaneously when high energy electrical discharges (⚡ lightning) hit water. It's only a question of available power.
Including instant fossilization of organic matter.
I think the engineers working on the plasma-universe and/or electrical-universe theories are doing some research in this direction.
cubafidel - All very wrong.
@@freemind.. hey we agree! High five.
@@nunyabisnass1141 - Finally! Haha
Readers O T A Your "instant fossilization of organic matter" is easy. Simply over use a microwave.
Dr Del Tacketts voice is similar to Mile Rowe from “Dirty Jobs” keep up amazing work!!
Correlates with Randell Carlson and Graham Hancock’s ‘younger Dryas impact hypothesis, asteroid hits North American ice sheet creating huge meltwater (pulse 1a) which carved the channeled scablands near Oregon very quickly. Check them out on Joe Rogan podcast. Makes a lot of sense.
That's an isolated event though
I work at Grand Canyon as a naturalist guide. I also get to work alongside National Geographic geologists. None of them support this.
Of course not.
Lol. National geographic is no longer science.
@@sf55514 yeah why would they base all their findings off of what these guys think. These guys already admit they're biased too
Because you get paid to parrot what your overlords tell you.
How does a hair pin turn happen rapidly?
Are you referring to the turns in the GC?
Truth Be Bold anywhere where its agreed to have formed by water erosion.
Absolutely astounding! They talk so easily about such complex things and make it very easy for us to see God's evidence of Creation and the flood all around us.
Alan Thompson Absolutely awful! This is highly imaginative myth making in the best creationist tradition. Let's make a mountain (of fossils) out of a mole hill (one location - Nautiloid Canyon) in a formation with a total thickness of 244 metres.
Yeah, you can find a few dozen examples of nautiloids-but not hundreds, certainly not millions. In fact, in "Grand Canyon: Monument to Catastrophe", Austin supports his ideas by reporting on the orientations of just twelve, that's 12, count them, nautiloid fossils.
Austin then extrapolates the flow dynamics over entire states and infers the existence of millions of identical fossils-evidence of a worldwide mass kill stretching from Grand Canyon to Las Vegas. These claims are, to say the least, a bit of a stretch.
Then there is the host rock - the Redwall LIMESTONE. Austin fails to explain how a massive flood can produce such a low energy deposit.
Like most limestones, the Redwall is formed mostly of the calcium carbonate shells of sea creatures. When the animals die their shells slowly fall apart in the waves or currents, or even dissolve and re-precipitate as lime mud.
But some of the creatures' remains are preserved as fossils. Crinoids, corals, brachiopods, bryozoans and foraminifera are the most common in the Redwall. Note the absence of Austin's orthocone nautiloids from this list. Remember too that he claims to have been hunting them down for 25 years! Hardly “common” eh?
Disingenuous or what?
Religion is an $82 billion a year enterprise in the USA alone. There is a hand in your pocket and it is NOT mine. No $ = no professional "HOLY" conman. Hello?
@@alanthompson8515 So why don't you have a twosome and see who has best explanation! SCIENCE IS NOT just 1 point of view!! 🐳🌊🐳🌊
evidence for the morons only
I have always believed that the canyon ,the caliche and all the other clues, pointed to an enormous body of water to the northeast of the canyon area, that for some reason burst it's boundary quickly and emptied through the area in a short period of time.
Ok, while the circles COULD be nautiloids, nobody really knows for sure.
If you're skeptical of the most logical answer... What do you think they are?
I think they are circles chiseled out in the rocks by creationists to confuse real scientists
@@warpnin3 Hahaha,,, good one!
Why is the grand cannion filled with meanders if it was created quickly?
@Priesthoodagitator Are you joking. That's the silliness thing I've ever heard. It's like a line from a Monty Python sketch.
@Priesthoodagitator That was interesting. But it's flawed . If gravety doesn't exist or if it works with EM then why don't differently charged objects fall at different rates? I wouldn't call ' electric universe' a conspiracy theory, but unless it can explain why Newton and Gereral Relativity both accurately explain the motion of bodies (while being so very wrong) then it is not a viable hypothesis. It certainly fails to explain meanders in the GC.
@Priesthoodagitator Well you are going to have to say something more substantial than that to appear credible. Why does it not explain the motion of anything when objects move through space time?
@Priesthoodagitator Meanders are produced by slow moving water. The meanders in the GC can only have been produced by slowly moving water over many millions of years. Carved quickly by water, the GC would look more like a glacial valley. Remember that one cubic meter of water weights one metric ton at sea level. If the GC was formed quickly the volume of water required would obliterate everything in its path. There would be no meanders, no pillers and no river branching.
@Priesthoodagitator Perhaps. But they are not caused by billions of tons of water gouging out a large hole quickly.
I recently watched one of your videos on mount Saint Helens where you talked about how the different species of trees were sinking at different rates causing the appearance of separations of Species of plants in the sediment in pyramid lake. I was wondering if any similar studies have been done on animal kinds..... if it happens to trees why would it not happen the same way to animals?
They went over that idea in the same video I believe.
Doesn't make sense to me though bcuz periods like the paleozoic contain mostly types of marine life & mesozoic contains dinosaurs & marine life but not all like trilobites & eurypterids. They die off
This isn't too scientific now but wouldn't the land animals drown first since they're the ones not use to swimming & breathing underwater.
There's the volcanoes, devils corksrews, icecores etc. That couldn't have rlly been created underwater too
@@slingslang2934 These layers and the fossils contained in them are due to hydraulic sorting, not millions of years of time.
@@ericmorris3030 that still doesn't explain why there are distinctly different types in different layers rather uniformly. No sorting process known has ever been observed to be as precise, not even the method you mentioned.
@@nunyabisnass1141 hydraulic sorting is just one mechanism which explains fossil deposition.
@@slingslang2934 its called liquifaction and yes the heavier things go to the bottom and the less denser things pile up accordingly there is no geological column. It only exist in theory. When the tour guide was ask how old the layers of strata were and how they dated them he replied we tell the age of the layer by tge fossils we find in it. How do you know the age of the fossil. He replied we tell that the layer of strata its found in. The 12 year old replied isn't that circular reasoning? The guide just looked at het like oh crap that is right.
Where did all the water come from, and where did it go when the Flood was over?
Check out this article...
www.independent.co.uk/news/science/earths-underground-oceans-could-have-three-times-more-water-than-the-surface-9534266.html
freemind springs opened below the ocean floor from underwater volcanoes and earthquakes plus rain!
@@psalm1197 - Wouldn't the magma below the crust have vaporized any water that was there? Is there really enough water to flood over the tops of the highest mountains?
If magma displaced much of the oceans and melted any ice caps? If you think of the extent of ice during the ice ages. Then who knows?
I saw that scientists have discovered one huge underground lake, 600 miles below the earth.
Google it.
'Remember The Nautiloids!'
The answer, no genesis is garbage.
Watching this video I had already come to the conclusion of high-speed underwater mud flow before you said it just a second or two
my favorite part is when steve started talking about the word of god and giving god the glory god is an awesome god
@@timhallas4275 Reminds me of 'Hanes, I like Hanes'. Not you, all the conditioned responses I see in the majority of the comments. People being quite happy to avoid real science and facts and just grab on to the AiG version of this stuff, none of which is actual science. AiG, the team behind this channel, has a standard for its 'scientific papers' library. The authors must start from the standpoint of the earth being 6,000 years old, the bible is literal, and god created every detail we see. The resulting paper must support this viewpoint. This is the exact opposite of how science works. But when AiG prances out one of it's pet 'scientists' with a relevant degree (rare) all their followers lap it up like they have finally discovered the truth, when in fact they are just enjoying confirmation bias.
@@avi8r66 as a born-again Christian who started off very far from that, I can honestly say I am very skeptical of AiG and their evidences, when I know for a fact they avoid espousing evidences far more convincing. Ken Ham is probably a Freemason/Jesuit shill and his $60+ million ark is designed to lead the sheep away, not toward faith. He's the public school version of theological teachings.
We will all know the Truth in the end.
@@s1988teve Don't give Ken Ham to much credit there, he was just looking for a new way to fleece the sheep. He built a unique church (the ark) in the hopes it would draw more of an audience but it failed miserably. It also helped disprove the possibility that such a thing was even possible, which I find hilarious.
And while 'evidences' is technically a legal way to pluralize evidence, this stopped being used long ago. I do have a very old set of encyclopedias though and I have seen it like that in there, but that set is from 1935.
There is no evidence to support the bible claims regarding creation, or any of the supernatural events. If you have any I would love to know about them. Such evidence would not be 'oh they found this town that sorta matches this one mentioned in the story'... if that's evidence for the claims then harry potter is also true, since london is a real city. For example, Nazareth, Jesus' supposed home town, has not been found. A spot was declared, but that spot does not match the description in the bible. And they have professionally scoured that site for a century. But, because it draws in the tourists the claim stands and hotels make bank.
Anyway, if you have evidence you feel strongly about I would love to know about it.
@Noahs Ark Regarding where I want to know anything... Actually I do. If you present me with evidence that proves something, or is actually convincing, I will happily review it. If I agree with what is presented I will add it to my body of knowledge. If not, well, I won't. The problem with the theistic 'evidence', or worse the YEC 'evidence', is that it is so far from qualifying as proper evidence it's hardly worth discussing. Also we don't think we are greater than God any more than we think we are greater than Darth Vader, another fictional character.
And science changing it's understanding of what is being studied is the whole point of studying the subject. That's just learning. And in most cases the 'changes' you are highlighting as though it was some kind of fraud is really just a refinement. Imagine you want to determine the length of something, lets say a lego block. The only thing you can find handy to measure with is a yardstick. So you use that and decide it is a half inch long. Then someone hands you a micrometer, and this, being a better tool for the job, shows you it is really 15/32 of an inch. Still basically a half inch long, but your data is now more accurate. This is the majority of the change you find as a subject is studied in science, and it's a good thing. Definitions change when they find the old definition is not complete, or they need to further define it because things they didn't want to include in the definition are being included. Planets for example were redefined. Pluto stopped qualifying as a planet under the new definition. But the new definition is better, for whatever reason, for the sciences around astronomy. Pluto didn't change, we just needed to redefine what a planet even was because we have added a lot of new data to what is being studied and the old definitions weren't cutting it any more.
So where evolution is concerned its a very well studied and well understood process. It's not in dispute except for groups like yours who have no basis for disputing it. The changes to the definition of it have been quite minor, and as with the other example are due to the body of knowledge expanding and finding that we need a better definition or a better way of categorizing things to make sense of the data.
Learning is not evil, it should be encouraged. Religion ruled this world for thousands of years. Early scientists, many of them, were actually trying to find God. Instead they created science which provided solutions for everything they thought only God could do. Science though taught us to wash our hands and gave us access to amazing technology we take for granted today, like toilets. All god did for us was create divisions between people.
@Noahs Ark I am also long in the tooth, 56 currently. And I was raised in a church going family, went to private christian schools, recited bible verses, the whole thing. It never added up.
There is absolutely a fossil record. The only people claiming otherwise are groups like AIG. And the 'experts' they bring in to refute this stuff are frauds, all of them. Their fraudulent claims are easily taken apart. Their role is to use their phd credibility to sell the flock the AIG line. This might come as a surprise to you but on this planet we actually have people willing to lie for money. I know, shocking.
But, let's pick one of your complaints and address it.
Ape -> Human.
This may annoy you but we are still apes, great apes to be more specific.
The way the YEC crew presents evolution is basically that a critter exists, then it changes into another critter. Paraphrasing, but that's the typical strawman used when refuting evolution. Which then leads to the next question, if evolution is true, and if we are apes, then why do apes still exist.
Well, because that's not what evolution does. Species branch, we are a branch off the great apes family tree. Other branches include orangutans, gorillas and chimpanzees. These all came from the great ape family, just like us. Similar body features, genetic similarities, and the fossil record all support this.
And yes, there is most definitely a fossil record and it is widely available for study from your internet access device or you can see examples of it in a local museum perhaps.
In order for AIG to keep it's funding coming in you have to understand they need to try and disprove 2 things, radiometric dating and evolution. They have tried for years to poke holes but they have failed miserably every single time. This is not because of some anti christian agenda, it's because the science is valid and the evidence brought by AIG fails inspection, if they bring any at all.
So, now, which of us, as you put it, "don't want to know about anything."
This information is widely available around the world from thousands of sources. These sources welcome new evidence and are willing to admit when they are wrong. That's the core of the scientific process.
By comparison, to submit papers/writings to AIG for inclusion in their library the 'science' they accept must support the young earth and their version of christian views. This means they bias the data before it even makes it in for consideration. This is the polar opposite of honest and productive science.
Choose wisely.
Actually, the alignment is due to the fact that they are long tube cones. They fall to the ocean floor and then the waves make them line up beside one another. The limestone is seven feet thick, so it took a very long time to deposit. As it is one thick layer the climate was very stable for that period. No real mystery.
How does that work? When according to atheist and evolutionist there was no flood.
@@ronniebuchanan6575 It was a shallow marine environment that had depositions during minor changes in sea level.
That's not a notaloid
Since mountains were uplifted after the Flood, the Colorado Plateau was likely uplifted at the same time. If metamorphism was catastrophic at this time, it would have eroded the Grand Canyon and caused mass extinctions.
Very interesting and then all of a sudden....
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Oh Wow, I see those in the clouds all the time!! I wonder if they came from another planet!!!
137,106 views, but only 3.1K likes. I think CZcams is fudging the numbers to defend their false world view.
How old are they?
sedimentary deposits are the origin of limestone layers. A history told in stone builds monsters of faith and bone.
The Grand Canyon sediments and Green river formation and deposits came from the Chixilub crater impact. It was a huge plume of the earth's crust, mud that washed north at enormous velocity forcing all living things that were not vaporized to the area. North AZ, NM, and much of UT, CO. The oil shales of Green River are largest in the world, that would be the land animals that were pushed by the impact tidal wave, the aquatic critters would be in the wave, in the water. Then as it receded the floating land animals (this was a huge event) were deposited at the leading edge of the tsunami to make the oil, that's why there are no dinosaurs in Grand Canyon. The Grand Canyon was not only formed rapidly by receding waters but carved and the aquatic animals rapidly deposited aligned. There are many problems with consensus formation theory of Colorado river including cutting through hard rock instead of taking easiest route. Also the advancing and receding sea idea doesn't work. Many other geological features and fossils can be explained this way including shocked quartz common to the SW and even west TX and Carribean islands. And the dust and gas filled atmosphere would also kill huge numbers.
Flood was global, fossil record is global. Asteroid doesn't explain it
I am growing an intuition about that big event slowly. What if the Moon was not a sattelite of Earth prior to the floud? What if the floud was created by the Moon getting into orbite with the Earth? Is it in any way verifiable? Can we find proof of tied in underlying sediments?
NO the bible says there was lesser light to rule the night before the flood. Jesus loves you!
Red limestone from a big red tide developed when the sea was drying up maybe.
@Sean T What makes red algae red?
Why have the resources of snow avalanche studies not been compared to your theory? It works the same….
The flood subsided, the animals left the Ark and walked back home.
Creation evidence museum in Glen Rose Texas... We used to be able to walk in the human footprints in and amongst the dinosaur footprints... Of course the access has been restricted now 🥺🥺
Saw several good youtube videos History how the Earth was Made about Grand Canyon, there's been Ice age glaciers and volcanic activity in that area.
It's been said that the canyon was not created by water erosion. The character of its festures suggest some other kind of event.
Loughborough Lake Ontario Canada.
West end basin , south side. Finger lake, land locked and spring fed, runs 23 miles NE
A narrow choke point in the middle, where the other side of the coin begins, either way or direction your facing.
The West end, depth 125' +/- beyond the choke pt, depth averages 10 -20 '
West end basin is soft limestone, 500,000 yrs..
NE precambrian shield,.. 4.5 billion yrs..
On my property, several nautiloid fossils. Spiral shells, none of which, despite their complete fossilizations intact, of any real size.
Examples range from 4 - 10 inches in length, tapered, width @10" scale approx 2.5'
There might something bigger, somewhere nearby, so who knows, however, all this to say, just wondering how this may juxtapose or jive.
03:35 ??? "Slowly over time"? Is there even 1 person here, that ever heard "that"?
the earth geology came from eletrical charges andrew hall is a god of geologist
Directly and indirectly.
Since the first world flood in the time Noah came from, in what did the holy landscape changes become notable? Are there features that remain from the first world into the second world mentioned in sacred scriptures?
so a creature that lives its whole life in water was killed by more water, that makes sense
Lots of dirt & sediments kicked up in flood waters, suffocating the craters in it.
If the temperature of the water changed drastically, very hot or very cold, would account for that. The Grand canyon may have opened up allowing magma to escape and heat the water.
Kyle, they were buried in mud. Otherwise they would have rotted and been no more. When a school of fish dies from pollution, they float to the surface, and rot, and are gone, they don’t end up buried in the ground. The fossil beds of schools of fish found worldwide are there due to being buried suddenly in mud due to the cataclysmic flood.
@Sean T The earth is only 6000
Years old. Carbon dating is flawed.
Things taken from same layer of
Sediment, has wildly fluctuating
dates.
@Sean T Bible is full of scientific
evidence, written before modern instruments were invented,& yet are 100% accurate. One example, scientists have just recently discovered that when a man's sperm & womans egg come together ,there Is a Flash of Light, 2000 years ago, John wrote by inspiration from GOD,
That God puts the "Light" of Life into everyone that is born. They did not have microscopes & Laboratory to study that.I can't change your mind about what you have been taught &
believe.Hope you find the truth ,its in GOD,/ JESUS, & his word.
How do you spell "Nudaloid"???
I think this is interesting and I'm keeping an open mind. But I am curious about all these extinct sea creatures. You'd think that if the earth is relatively young, and we had a catastrophic global flood flood a few thousand years ago we'd see much more disruption in the land life than the sea life. Yet I seem to see just as many extinct sea critters of bizzare types as land animals. You're showing me a lot of nautiloids that apparently died in some sort of flood, but why did they all die in Noah's flood. You'd think "more water" would be a lot worse for T-Rex than the nautiloids.
But the t-rex died as well right. Of course there were less of them because they were big predators having lots of habitat.
The catastrophic nature of waters whipping around full of debris would easily kill marine life
@@russelldeboersap4701 so would any rapid change in salinity and mineral contents dissolved in water that had been deep underground. Most notable would be sulfides making the ocean acidic for centuries, including hydrogen sulfide which is very toxic. Unfortunately we don't see any evidence of an acidic evironment on marine life or the minerals they were depositied in, so thats a problem literally no flood model has even attempted to address.
In addition to what others posted don't forget where the Bible says these waters came from. They opened up from the depths and poured into the world. What do we see today when we look at the bottom of the ocean? And I'm talking more recently discovered areas in the CRACKS of earth like the Marianas trench. Unbelievable hot water pouring into the ocean from beneath it. Now imagine all of the unbelievably hot water were to erupt from the ocean floor like massive underwater volcanoes. What would that do to all of the sea life? Also, the sea is more abundant so you'd have innumerable creatures killed versus the relatively low population of the larger land dwelling creatures. The Bible also accounts for men seeing creatures so vast that we appear as grasshoppers to them. It knew of and recorded dinosaurs before we discovered fossils. We also know that fossils form rapidly and by complete burial. Not slowly over time from creatures dying, exposed to air.
Glaciers are melting, magma is radiating, I believe the earth can change rapidly, and immediate
Why would a flood kill the fish?
They can get buried in storm just like they do now. Over 90 percent of "fossil record" is MARINE LIFE like a massive flood deposit.
mako sharks are faster than mongoloids
*So much proof of the bible, God and Jesus, yet so few believe? I don't get it?*
Because mankind loves darkness rather than light according to God’s word.
2 cor 4:4 'among whom the god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, so that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through.'
You call this proof?? Sad.
@@stevendelucas6311 What is your explanation for millions of these creatures in the same rock strata ?
Same here Lee, I often wonder why more do not know Christ
This is so cool how they are proving God's word
No god, no word, no proof.
I love these videos about Prehistoric life. This series has inspired me so much and lifted up a passion in me about Geology and how it connects to God's Word! I want to glorify God in this field as I study this in college!
Ethan, I ask God to give you wisdom, strength, humility and passion for your future endeavor. May God be your guide and teacher. May you stand for Him on the foundation He's given us, His Holy Word to share with others what He has done not only in the rocks but on a wooden cross. God bless. Look forward to meeting you in Heaven.
I've just gotten into rocks recently, as a hobby and directly from watching these young earth videos. I live in the Scottish highlands and we have great cliffs and rock formations that I study with new eyes while out with the dogs. If you find any other Christian geology videos, could you please point me to them? Thank you 🙂
@@psalm1197 hey Alexandra! Wow thats so awesome that you live in the Scottish Highlands. Its funny because the other day my family and I were discussing where we'd go on a trip for graduation when my brother graduates since I wasn't able to this year because of the virus and Scotland is on my top list! But anyways, I recently found some other videos on the Is Genesis History website. There are 74 in depth lecture videos about everything Geology, Archaeology, Astronomy, etc. It comes with a small fee. Last time I got it, it was on sale for $1.00. Those are the only ones I could find for now but I just so enjoy these awesome videos. It really showcases the truth and points towards salvation in Christ! I hope this helps!
Hans De Mos Hence why there are these videos. To refute the flimsy models proclaimed by the geologic community. I studied geology in college. Tell me how subduction occurs when two tectonic plates collide? How does the surface material get pushed DOWNWARD into a denser material below? Why don’t ALL of the radiometric dating methods agree? Why is there still carbon in rocks all over the earth when it should be undetectable after 100,000 years? Why is there hydrogen in granite samples taken from all over the world when the hydrogen diffusion rate is 6000(+or-2000) years?
The six million dollar man lives!! Thank you major!!
Yes and praise God! God is Good he reveals himself to those who seek him! Praise God he is so good !
He's not so good.
Proof there was a world wide flood
this is great God bless you
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