6R80 Leadframe Valvebody
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- čas přidán 1. 11. 2017
- Watch as Performance Automatic focuses on the Ford 6R80 valve body and lead frame and explains why it is so important to replace/update these items. Lead frame is part# PA68300 and the valve body and lead frame together is part# PA68301
Excellent video! Thank you so much for sharing your expertise! God bless you!
This is the first Ive heard of this. My 14 GT has no issues at all. I do change fluid every 30k miles...at 61500 now, so Im doing it again soon.
Thank you for this video, very helpful
that is very useful information . thank you for this video
Glad I found your channel. I have a 15 transit 350 with 3.7. 6r80.
Codes P0706,0707,0712,0715
I have been having this vibration sound for a long time, I would describe it like a low bass sound, from big sound system. It comes and goes at any speed above prob 40mph. It will sometimes happen every few seconds and it last for a second or 2.
We now have 135k and it started 50k or so ago. I have taken it to several shops and they all say it’s tires or shocks or something and never fixed the problem.
Last week I was headed up in elevation on a road trip, no trailer. And I was noticing the rpm would bounce +\- 200, when the sound happens.
Then, the sound went away. Approx 50miles later I noticed fluid getting on my rear Windows. I kept driving and made it the next 100 miles to our destination. During the 100 miles, it didn’t ever shift down when pulling hills, it stayed in 6. Even if I manually tried selecting another gear, it wouldn’t allow me to change.
After getting into town, I shut it off and when restarted tried, it shifts hard to reverse and drive. It operated fine in R. But feels like I’m still starting in a higher gear.
We trailered it back to our town. Where I now have it and am ready to work on it.
What are your thoughts? I purchased: lead frame, case of fluid, filter, and it was all here by the time we got home.
Now I’m thinking torque converter too.
Or am I too far into it and should just bite bullet and order a trans?
Where would the fluid have come from?
It looks wet on bottom of bell housing…
Driveshaft
If the PA68301 includes new lead frame, solenoids, and new casting of the valve body...why is there a $350 core charge when nothing is rebuilt or reused?
Because their is a sucker on every corner 😜
Got a 2013 fx2
I got the wrench on the dash and the transmission shifted to only 3 or 5 th gear and once I got it slammmed into 1st at about 40 my locking my rear end for a sec or two.... took it to the dealer and they say they replaced the lead frame as I am over 150,000 but the recall extends to include trucks over mileage up to oct or nov 30th of this year
Got it back today and so far so good, put about 80 miles on it since leaving the dealership and no problems so far.
Wish I had seen this video before and I would have paid for the valvebody to go with the lead frame as he says
2011 f150 lariat 240k just now replaces the valve body and lead frame..........ya its expensive.
Having same issue.. Is this fix still working for you?
Also how much was it
I just replaced my valve body and lead-frame on my 2014 Expedition EL Limited. Disappointed it was not part of the recall because of the model year. Build date, factory, and the problem fit to a Tee.
It gets better, for $1,000 the dealership could replace the lead-frame though they can not even get just the lead frame to “fix” the problem. But (here comes the money grab) they can get the valve body with a lead frame combined! $3,000 was the quote.
Ended up purchasing the factory valve body/lead frame (I could not purchase a factory leadframe without the valve body) and doing it myself in under 2 hours for less than $1,000. Shifting smooth and functioning properly. BUT it is recommended to go into the dealership and pay to have the strategy programmed into the truck. I do not see the reason to do that. Quite the money grab IMO for a problem that has been verified and recalled.
My 6R80 with only 1600 miles on it after a rebuild, flared 300rpm from a 5-6 gear shift. Now, when trying to move forward, it seems like 90% of the line pressure isn't allowing full engagement in D, and the RPM just climbs with very little forward movement. Reverse engages perfectly fine. The car was driving perfect for the first 7 minutes, and then this came out of nowhere. I believe its a solenoid/valve body issue. No codes came up. I am swapping the valve body, bridge and tube seals today.
I'm having these issues. Did that work for you?
5/19/19 Ford issue a recall to fix the Lead Frame. Got mine replaced for free but it did not solve the problem. The issue also include the valve body. If you don’t fix both you will still get the “slam” “rear ending feeling” into second gear.
Any info on the recall number ? Thanks
@@saltlive any info on this?
@@nicolasmendoza522 id have to look it up again but yes there was a recall
Thank you
Just recently changed one out in my 2012 Territory (Aust). The Neutral Switch section wore out. Where the slide travels over magnets to select park, drive etc.
It totally confused the computer and refused to start. (thought it was in gear) The vehicle has travelled 225,000 kilometres (135 thousand miles i think) in 10 years.
I wasn't impressed with this failure and copped a $2000 bill to get fixed, albeit, the workshop used the latest whizz bang improved parts flown in from The US.
This is a diesel vehicle so expecting many more miles from it now.
So you need to program the lead frame / range sensor?
I have some questions and think you might be able to help, I ha e changed my leadframe but now the the shifting is harsh
Need the frame for an mustang 2015 Automatik. But what is TCM? With or without on the Frame... I don't see clear 😕
Where can I find the transmission control solenoid or shift solenoid on this transmission?
What’s the torque and tightening sequence for the lead frame to valve body bolts, valve body to trans bolts and the transmission pan bolts? I have a 2012 F-150 3.5L
What’s the part number for the upgraded valve body?
If I were to purchase the parts, would I still have to take the truck to a transmission shop to have them swapped out, or is this something that can be done by an intermediately-mechanically-inclined person? Also, you state that the frame is this part number, and the whole Kit-n-kabootle is that part number; where would I purchase said parts?
Hi,would you kindly help to locate the transmission temperature sensor on my fordwildtrak 2015 2.2 engine. I had it scanned and what comes up says problem with transmission temperature sensor..thank you so much
I have a 2014 Ford Mustang and the valve body had been failing since 60K miles. Initially first 2 years was occasional trans slips. Finally this month, slipping got slightly worse and happened once a day, and then vehicle would go into limp mode. Couldn't figure it out so finally caved and took it to the dealer who found no issues with transmission but faulty valve body after tests. Any idea why this part could go bad so quickly? Reason I ask is if I should expect future transmission issues and if it would be more advisable to just sell the car at this point (80K miles). Engine still runs like new. Thank you.
Bad solenoid or valve body seal.
I have a 2017 Mustang GT and wondering how I determine what my lead frame and valve body are? If I need to upgrade it?
I have a 2017 gt and mine just crapped out, did you have any trouble codes?
Is the TCM in the Lead Frame or is the TCM built into the Valve Body? My 2013 Ford F150 is an older version and the dealer is telling me my Valve Body and leadframe does not have the TCM? Where do you find the TCM?
So what do 1000s of people do when ford has no idea when the molded lead frame isn't available? If you know where one is please share
Where can you find these replacement partsand their price??
And what is the partnumber of the New Lead frame?? Can't buy it here in Germany by the Ford dealer. Very bad.
I’m bout to get all of
This done to my Ford Mustang.
were you having occasional slips before? I was experiencing that and just had the valve body replaced. wanted to know if this would solve the issue for peace of mind.
Man it varies it could be many things. But I put a handheld computer on Mine and saw that the speed sensor was showing 140 MPH when I was only doing 55 MPH turned out to be the valve body and lead frame.
Akshay Bhavsar I’m getting it back on Friday I’ll let you know if it fixed my problem.
@@billwilliamson3764 Thank you. I am pretty handy with a wrench, but didn't have any transmission experience so I took it in to a pro. They found code P0733 during limp mode while using a data recorder, but the code would clear every time the car was shut off which is why I couldn't find any codes when I used my reader. They also found clean fluid which I replaced 12K miles ago. After testing they recommended I replace valve body and that there was no damage to the transmission. After 50 miles of driving the issue seems resolved. The reason I am concerned is that my mustang has 80K miles and I'm concerned future trans issues may occur in the future and if this would be a good time to sell the car to avoid having to deal with future issues or if the valve body failure is just a one-off anomaly. Engine and rest of the vehicle run great. Anyway, thank you for your help and let me know!
Akshay Bhavsar I had all of it done and it’s running so much better and so far hasn’t given me anymore problems.
Which one is the tcc
Hello, if I replace the valve body and lead frame do I HAVE TO get the solenoid strategy reprogrammed? I’ve had the learned data cleared and it is shifting smoothly, far better than before I replaced it.
Did you ever get an answer to this question? I am looking to replace my valve body assembly as well. Did you ever get it programmed?
Waiting on this part 2 fix my 2013 F 150.. 3 weeks away
On back order
Any updates? How did the fix work. I'm in your shoes now.
Anyone know what the part number is for just the valve body, I just bought a new Lead Frame and was thinking since I just found this video. Where can get just the valve body since I already have the lead frame
Did you find out? I have the same question.
Just had mine replaced in '14 f 150 Friday. Walk out Monday to find puddle of transmission fluid under truck. Could this be related?
The valve body has a very specific order in which bolts need to be torqued down. my guess is that it wasn't installed correctly in that order. See link-> d2q1ebiag300ih.cloudfront.net/uploads/part/instructions/4092/FZR80-IN.pdf?v=1526314285
that sounds like bad workmanship by the dealer
Same here...
@@AkshayBhavsar1989 Hi ,is it relatively straight forward to disassemble/separate the valve body in order to clear the inside channels as I fear mine are contaminated with transmission/metal paste? Have pulled the valve body out 3 times so far and replaced contaminated solenoids,but not quite game enough to separate the valve body on the 6R80. thanks
I am having this issue with my 2014 F-150 FX4, 110K miles. I just bought it a week ago so I think I know why the previous owner traded it in. The recall as far as I can tell is only 2012-2013. Anyone hear of other 2014 owners having the same issue? I'm sure I'll be replacing both lead frame and valve body soon.
Any updates on your truck? Did you get it fixed?
Any results?
Also here for an update. Anything helpful to go off of? My '13 FX4 is going into "limp mode" and I've had a code of the output sensor
@@presendez27 I don’t have an update for his comment but I can give insight into my problem. I’ve got a 2014 f150 with 5.0 and I’ve had a problem where my shift indicator light doesn’t light up and truck won’t start. I finally took cover off the starter relay and would turn my switch on and crank truck manually from the relay and then after a few miles the gear indicator light would come back on and all is well. So I parked my truck last week and when I went it start it again, no fear indicator light and it was flashing “Starting System Failure” and Harley’s nothing worked and even turning my switch on and trying to manually start with relay, it wouldn’t start. So my Lead Frame went completely out. Went by 2 shops earlier today and 2nd one said he could get to it in a week and showed me a bad lead gram he just replaced last week on a F150 that had the exact problems I’m having. He said diagnosing the problem one wire at a time was a nightmare his first couple repairs bc nothing was clear as to if the harness was to be plugged in or not and wether it needed power or not. So after a few he has gotten pretty good and pretty fast at the process. I mentioned that I was considering replacing it myself since I learned that I wouldn’t have to reprogram or relearn anything. He advised against it. He said it isn’t a bad job, but there’s a lot of small things that if not all are perfect, you’ll have to redo the entire thing again. So if you are still wanting updates I will reply again when I finally get to pick my truck up from the shop. Will include repair cost too.
how much does this thing cost?
Please sent me a link for that part
Thanks for the excellent tip. What is the cost of the valve body and lead frame in 2021 dollars?
2022 dollars 995$ just bought one today
@@AO-bm1pi how the hell and where the hell did you find one?
@@AO-bm1pi and was it the lead frame or lead frame w/ valve body?
@@azentic lead frame with valve body from dealer.
But my 2011 f150 ecobboost had a recall I took it in and they did a flash re program and it fixed my shifting problem
Dealer had one but I might have to return it don't think I need it
Where would the Temp Sensor be located at??
In the molded lead frame!
Does Ford replace both? My F150 is currently in the shop to replace the lead valve. It's under the powertrain warranty. I am wondering if the valve body is also replaced.
Did they replace the valve body? having problems with my 2017
@@edross641 my 17 is in getting just the lead frame under warranty. 72000kms
@@terrybull4604 They did mine under warranty also, runs great again
With a new valve body and with the new lead frame from the dealer will it need to be programmed when installed?thank you
Came here looking for the same answer. Instructions included with the new valve body say yes.
@JamesElterman
You can get instructions on CZcams step by step. Luckily, I have a transmission guy who handles it for me .
Look up the Ford Loco guy he really good with part list and good breakdown
@@AO-bm1pi thanks. I just found instructions on how to update the programming using Forscan.
@@JamesElterman could you perhaps post a link to those instructions? Thx.
Can these be installed at home or does a ford shop have to do it and program something?
You can do this at home
@@acolytes777
Thanks. I've heard other people say the truck has to be programmed to recognize the new solenoids.
@@curtis1951 there's truth to that though it's not essential. If you want really smooth shifts then it is advised to be taken to be programmed. If you don't mind the shifts that are s little obvious then go ahead and leave it as is.
I don't see much of a difference personally. You might save yourself $150 not going to the dealership.
@@acolytes777
Thanks 👍
Where’s the range sensor located?
According to this video, it was right there on the lead frame.
Can you sell me the Valve body and leadframe assembly together without TCM? Please let me know, thank you
I have a 2009 F150 5.4v8 and the 6R80 transmission. 85k miles. Took it on a road trip and it slammed hard from 5th to 4th gear going up a hill around 70mph. Happened half a dozen times over a 1000mile roadtrip. now my 2 to 1 downshift is harsh too! Did something fail? no check engine light came on. Any idea what this is? I've seen people say just reprogram it, but that cant be right.
Check Recall Notice 19S107/ NHTSA Recall19V-075...it addresses the speed output sensor downshifting at high speed to a lower gear. My recall says they will cover the repair for 150,000 miles or 10 years....I guess it's cheaper to see if any don't fail rather then to repair them all....bazturdz
@@JM-ei7eb I got the notice in mail about this but I had spoken with Ford dealer near my home and was told they are not authorized to perform repairs on my truck unless a fault code is stored in memory. My truck doesn't have it and is experiencing "slam" when changing gears from higher to 1st for at least a year. What do I do?
John O'Donohue I think you were lied too. Just bought a 2011 F150 with 106,000 on it with a active recall from 2014, took it in & they did a program reflash in less then 30 mins & i wasn’t pulling any diagnostic codes, also contacted previous owner and was told that he had the leadframe warranty work done without a code being pulled.
shift bans just had to replace my trans now i am getting the led frame done because its fucked up 70000 miles on my truck under the recall part is back order its on them now
This is clearly a manufacturer defect, why hasn’t ford done a recall on this specific issue. I have a 2013 F150 fx4 with a 6.2Lt, I bought the truck used with 80,000 miles... I’m at 103,000 miles now. For the past 5000 miles or so it has been showing these faults in the way it rides and the erratic downshift has gotten worse as of late. Ford fucked up big on this transmission design, why haven’t they man up to it? I’ve read that these lead frames will go bad as soon as 60,000 miles... that is fuckin absurd. Ford should be covering all the expenses, I think it’s bullshit that we the consumer have to pay out of pocket if we are so unlucky to no longer have the warranty on these vehicles...
Arturo Lopez did you fix it?
Que hicieron para arreglar el problema
Mine has been having issues since 55K miles in my 2014 ford mustang with the 6R80 trans
Got a recall last week on the Output Speed Sensor replacement which will cause the truck, at high speed, to downshift to 1st gear. They will fix that part alone, but not replacing the other assembly/parts (Safety Recall Notice 19S07/NHTSA Recall 19V-075). There is nothing about replacing the entire assembly as the video shows. I've got the 2013 F150 4X4 5.0 engine. Check it out your vehicle maybe subject to the recall but because you are not the original owner they might not be able to contact you.
Just got another recall. The 1st one was an update. 2nd one replaces this part at no cost and extends the warranty to 150,000 miles or 10 years.
The dealer changed the lead frame on my 2013 Ford F150 lariat. 2 months ago Now my instrument panel will not turn off. Can there be a connect with the lead frame?
Bobby Evans is it fixed now?
There is a recall on the lead frame now.
Got my lead frame replaced but it didn’t fix the problem. The problem turns out to be the Valve Body
There is a recall on lead frame now?
@@philncider8077 yes i just went in to day its on back order call them and get in as soon as you can
We’re are you located and phone number?