Top Ten MTG: Best Hate Cards in Commander

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  • čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
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  • @stripes8812
    @stripes8812 Před 6 lety +51

    I once chaos warped a winter orb. He shuffled and I cut...
    into a winter orb.

    • @Words-of-encouragement.-.
      @Words-of-encouragement.-. Před 5 lety +4

      Ouch.

    • @acidity8912
      @acidity8912 Před 5 lety +4

      My opponent chaos warped my omniscience in to omniscience. They cut the deck.

    • @mshevy9829
      @mshevy9829 Před 5 lety +2

      My opponent once chaos warped ulamogs crusher, and I got ulamogs crusher

    • @Sucrose_Mother
      @Sucrose_Mother Před 5 lety

      My opponent chaos warped my blightsteel collossus into blightsteel collossus

    • @kinkajuu1
      @kinkajuu1 Před 5 lety

      i chaos warped my wifes serra avatar in when she had wall of reverance. she shuffled then i cut and revealed serra avatar :(

  • @shawnthornton7971
    @shawnthornton7971 Před 6 lety +98

    Asking my opponent if they're gonna pay 1 every time they cast a spell is one of the main reasons to play rhystic study

    • @generalawesome7279
      @generalawesome7279 Před 6 lety +4

      Especially when they forget why

    • @JpDubbed
      @JpDubbed Před 5 lety +13

      "This is borderline harassment by the way" 😂😂

    • @ejedwards988
      @ejedwards988 Před 5 lety +2

      I never pay for the study and cast a lot of spells, then traumatize the player, pop tormud's crypt. When you lose half your deck drawing more cards is unfortunate.

    • @ertai222
      @ertai222 Před 5 lety

      Most play groups just opt no

  • @elitemaster666
    @elitemaster666 Před 6 lety +15

    Damn Blood Moon man, that card should be in this list.

  • @Illusionmaker_MTG
    @Illusionmaker_MTG Před 6 lety +39

    If you mention Kismet you also have to name Frozen Æther, as it is Kismets blue, timeshifted version. Loxodon Gatekeeper is Kismet on a stick so It should not go unmentioned, too!

  • @Ceilio34
    @Ceilio34 Před 5 lety +2

    Good video. I was really surprised that Blood moon didn't show up. Also contamination is brutal too

  • @datboi7491
    @datboi7491 Před 6 lety +1

    Surprised Choke wasn't in here. Threw it in my Karametra deck the other day, the merfolk player played Scoop on the stack in response, and it was one of the best feelings I've had playing commander.

  • @AffinityForCommander
    @AffinityForCommander Před 6 lety +1

    Great video! I have a personal hatred of authority of the consuls - especially when it's dropped turn one!

  • @das2s4s
    @das2s4s Před 6 lety +8

    Lets add "tangle wire" with any repeatable proliferate ability to the list too while we are at it.

  • @jayfeather7676
    @jayfeather7676 Před 5 lety +1

    The way i learned Magic was by playing against an old deck full of plague rats, will o wisps, nightmares, fireballs, winter orb, rack AND vice, royal assasins and extermates. I didn't win a single game for about my first 20-25 games. "Hate cards" ceased to phase me long ago

  • @bigchief6495
    @bigchief6495 Před 6 lety +1

    With stasis if you keep 6 mana two blue 4 colorless you can capsize with buyback at the end of your opponent turn and you can play magic while everyone else doesn’t lol

  • @jonathantillian6528
    @jonathantillian6528 Před 6 lety +1

    Also with Null Rod you can have the ever not-so-fun Mycosynth Lattice combo.
    Because who want's a game where no land can tap for mana!

  • @basketfullofholes9867
    @basketfullofholes9867 Před 5 lety +2

    Humility prevents etb effects which has been amazing whenever I have played.

  • @EliyaSelhub
    @EliyaSelhub Před 6 lety +4

    Rest in Peace should get an honorable mention for graveyard hate

  • @brianwillson6679
    @brianwillson6679 Před 6 lety +4

    I don't know if it matters but the Null Rod/Stony Silence also turns off equipment which in EDH is kind of a thing.

  • @El_ultimo_Guille
    @El_ultimo_Guille Před 2 lety

    i love torpor orb righ the moment went out, it make Phage the Untouchable so enjoyable

  • @Hrafnskald
    @Hrafnskald Před 6 lety

    Good choices. For honorable mention, I would also suggest Leovold, Emissary of Trest, for all the flavor of "you don't ever get to draw again" combos.

    • @CommanderVoid
      @CommanderVoid  Před 6 lety +1

      He would’ve been if he wasn’t banned

    • @Hrafnskald
      @Hrafnskald Před 6 lety

      Built in Hate from the Judges ;)

  • @TheMatthew001
    @TheMatthew001 Před 5 lety +4

    as a person who only has rainbow commander decks (it wasn't intentional the five color commanders just call to me) i laugh at iona as she removes one color but i got 4 more.

    • @thewitchsfamiliar
      @thewitchsfamiliar Před 5 lety

      For you it is. For everyone else who does not, she is still a living nightmare

  • @Reavermyst
    @Reavermyst Před 6 lety

    Humility is a pretty rough card, but I like the added flavor of Overwhelming Splendor which targets a particular player for a very similar effect. Great way to get your friend with a huge board to hate your guts

  • @thijsvisscher7231
    @thijsvisscher7231 Před 6 lety

    Nice list! Stax is not called after Smokestack though. It's actually called after a deck called $T4KS, Which stood for The 4k Solution. A deck made to counter the Gro-A-Tog deck in the Vintage format.

  • @Aiswful
    @Aiswful Před 6 lety +13

    Sometimes...
    After a looong day...
    I play with Iona as my General in my Angel Tribal Commander Deck ....
    Against my friends monocolored deck...
    He always tries to...
    But never succeed...

    • @NoBody-ro3xj
      @NoBody-ro3xj Před 5 lety +2

      Aaannnd play helm of the host on it. So it makes multiple and stop everyone

    • @briangentry3714
      @briangentry3714 Před 5 lety

      I was playing Unesh, Criosphinx Sovereign. Mono blue. My opponent managed to get Iona, Shield of Emeria to stick. Of course they named blue. My turn rolls back around and I managed to top deck a Mycosynth Lattice. The look on his face was priceless.

    • @thewitchsfamiliar
      @thewitchsfamiliar Před 5 lety

      Are you sure he is still your friend after that?

  • @hawkeye137137
    @hawkeye137137 Před 6 lety

    Nice list, but I wish you listed Void Winnower at least as a honorable mention. Since it is colorless it can go in any deck and there are lots of good cards it hoses that are even cmc. All the 2 mana counterspells, 4 and 6 mana wraths, Cyclonic Rift, many good commanders, all the 6 mana powerful creatures, etc.. If you can protect it from odd cmc mostly single target removals, it will win you the game probably.

  • @andrewhoward6946
    @andrewhoward6946 Před 5 lety

    I was expecting Sphere of Resistance to make the list. It's like a Thorn of Amethyst that also works on commanders!

  • @draxthemsklonst
    @draxthemsklonst Před 5 lety

    Solemnity, Song of Titania, Root Maze, Trinisphere, Nether Void, Douse, Thrull Wizard, In the Eye of Chaos and Invoke Prejudice

  • @MrMaxtremo
    @MrMaxtremo Před 6 lety +2

    It seems odd to see Humility receive an honorable mention immediately followed by Kismet which has negligible impact in my opinion. Many decks cannot win through a Humility whereas there are nearly no decks that I know of that are bricked by Kismet. Kismet is a pest to most, causing delay, often nothing more. Humility is absolutely backbreaking to any creature-based themes as well as wincons (such as Lab Man).
    I have yet to see a Gaddock Teeg meaningfully impact a game. Most decks that favor noncreature spells sport ample spot removal and the decks that favor creature-based strategies remain virtually unaffected. I imagine him being difficult for some mono-blue or Simic builds I suppose, but I personally have yet to see his effect hold any relevance in a game.
    Rhystic study is a powerful card, but I wouldn't consider it a hate card as it only presents an avenue for a player to be enabled. It isn't a preventative card on its own.

  • @mrmahga6004
    @mrmahga6004 Před 5 lety

    Great list! Wish Elesh Norn could have made it for token hate...

  • @dillonp618
    @dillonp618 Před 4 lety

    In my play group we used to have a person that would play Stasis, Winter Orb, and Static Orb. Needless to say we banned his deck into oblivion(the person had other problematic cards, and the deck was just to powerful for our playgroup)

  • @cobra_commander2255
    @cobra_commander2255 Před 6 lety +8

    This is more of a top Stax cards list than a top hate cards list. Hate cards are things like Rest in Peace, Containment Priest and Stranglehold. You have a few of them, but I wouldn't say things like Winter Orb are hate, they're Stax.

    • @zenmaster8826
      @zenmaster8826 Před 5 lety +1

      They are hate cards because everybody hates em.. :3

    • @Words-of-encouragement.-.
      @Words-of-encouragement.-. Před 5 lety +4

      Saying these cards "aren't hate, they're stax" is like sticking your hand in a fire and saying "it doesn't hurt, it burns". If it's hateful, it's hate.

  • @michaelmorris4515
    @michaelmorris4515 Před 6 lety +3

    Not sure I agree with what your concept of "hate" card. Most of these are grief cards that don't single out a single color or strategy to "hate". What I've always heard called "hate" cards are fairly narrow. Things like Boil, Perish, Blood Moon, etc. that punish a specific color or a specific strategy (non-basic land use). Your list are cards that attack pretty much everything and aren't narrow in the slightest.

  • @rickwilley1385
    @rickwilley1385 Před 5 lety

    Winter orb in a mono colorless eldrazi deck that has a ridiculous amount of mana rocks, boulders, pebbles, dorks, etc

  • @talentless4838
    @talentless4838 Před 6 lety

    For torpor orb I have a ixalan card that does the same thing (-something- honor guard, 1/3 for 1 mana of any color and 1 white mana)

  • @d9_1056
    @d9_1056 Před 6 lety

    I recently threw together a zur deck with various cards i had in my collection...the two games we played were games of arch enemy. Won them too. Might upgrade it lol

  • @willmatheny6755
    @willmatheny6755 Před 4 lety

    Rhystic Study in my Locust God Deck; strap on the Wheels and go nuts!

  • @54m0h7
    @54m0h7 Před 6 lety +2

    The Orbs and Stasis are definitely the worst hate/tax cards. Especially painful if they also have an Unwinding Clock or Seedborn Muse as well.

  • @phyrexiahive9440
    @phyrexiahive9440 Před 5 lety

    Winter orb and mana web are must haves against mana decks

  • @twostepz4982
    @twostepz4982 Před 4 lety

    Ensnaring bridge, sanguine blood, all of dmg per draw or 8 rack cards like the rack, ghostly prison, properganda, mind over matter, the lists goes on...

  • @InfernalWheel
    @InfernalWheel Před 6 lety

    Ive actually only played one game where my Static Orb actually had a significant effect on the board. I felt bad about it...but not bad enough to where I wont do it again. Lol

  • @dakotamcintire7419
    @dakotamcintire7419 Před 4 lety

    Iona, shield of emeria plus helm of the host. 5 turns and the entire table, short of colorless decks, are completely hosed

  • @TheBlackdragon936
    @TheBlackdragon936 Před 5 lety

    Number 6 should be humility, is does the exact same thing but also makes them 1/1s. That behemoth become a 1/1 with no triggers. With the orb it’s still a 5/5 haste.
    And void winnower instead of Teeg for number 4 as it turns off all even spells, makes creatures unblockable and it can’t be shocked and killed.

  • @TombiDTA
    @TombiDTA Před 6 lety +1

    Could you please do a deck tech for sen triplets, pillowfort, no stax ideally, emphasize political gameplay perhaps? Although I think some hatebears are probably warranted some slots in the deck. At the moment my current list has no wincon outside of azors elocutors and my opponents decks, but I built it with the idea that they can't call my deck boring or unfun because I'd be playing theirs. Please help as I'm not sure if I'm doing it right

    • @CoverofWinter
      @CoverofWinter Před 6 lety

      I don't think you can out-politic people hating you for playing with their stuff and shutting them out of your turn. I have played a deck like that, that mostly focused on stealing other people stuff and I invariably became the target after a few turns of trying to ramp up some mana.

  • @mitchviele7548
    @mitchviele7548 Před 6 lety +6

    Less decks can run it, but contamination is brutal in any black token/recursion builds.

    • @nakr123
      @nakr123 Před 6 lety +1

      Mitch Viele gets me a win almost every time with my Meren

  • @Lukluklukable
    @Lukluklukable Před 5 lety

    would mention freezin aether with kismet as is its pretty much the same just in blue :D

  • @chrismarlow9585
    @chrismarlow9585 Před 5 lety

    I'm surprised no one is mentioning Overwhelming Splendor. It's 8 mana but completely disables all their creatures, any artifacts/enchantments with annoying activated abilities, enter battlefield triggers on creatures don't work and they can't even use abilities on spells like cycling or kicker. I guess traditionally commander is a 3+ player format but in 1v1 it's basically a game winner as soon as you play it.
    Another one I love to use is Sphere of Safety. 5 mana makes it a bit costly for a normal game but in commander that's less of an issue and you only need a couple more enchantments before you start slowing down your opponent lots. Add another enchantment or two and to attack they can't play any spells and can only attack with one creature. It may seem like there's less pay-off for all the work to have enchantments compared to these other hate cards but from my experience playing with it I've found it's incredibly effective at defending you and its ability to go beyond (2) cost makes it far better than ghostly prism for commander.

    • @TheIhplodur
      @TheIhplodur Před 5 lety

      I agree. In Magic Duels I played against a scarab god deck and he had a full board. Then I played that card and won with one life.

  • @StormofCrows69
    @StormofCrows69 Před 5 lety +6

    I just use both orbs, why not right?
    I have no friends...

  • @justinhamm9819
    @justinhamm9819 Před 5 lety

    My absolute favorite hate card is Sire of insanity. Especially turn one or two it can be devastating

  • @brian_sipe
    @brian_sipe Před 6 lety

    6nd
    Also I'm liking Deathgrip / Lifeforce just because it gives black and green counterspell abilities

  • @folferjon
    @folferjon Před 4 lety

    Storm cauldron is a pretty fun hate card

  • @paulziemba7890
    @paulziemba7890 Před 6 lety

    Humility is easily a better hate card the torpor orb because humility stops creature etb effects(they have no effects as it enters) and nutters most create strategies

  • @Veiwer77
    @Veiwer77 Před 5 lety

    If I sit down and my opponent puts Gaddock teag on the table I'll scoop right then on principle. I and everyone else wants to play commander, not not play. The kind of people who play these kind of decks usually only play once at my LGS, and I never see them again thankfully

  • @dandyx12
    @dandyx12 Před 6 lety

    I think older sets are the best sources for hate cards, design have thankfully moved away from it recently, my favourite old school haters are, Eye of Singularity is fun, ruins token decks, usually nukes a handful of mana rocks, Primal Order, stings those fancy $$$ manabases and even nibbling 3-4 a turn adds up, Mana Breach is a fun alternative to Stasis, Contamination is more or less the Iona effect, kind of liked Power Surge till the manaburn change, now Stranglehold is the red hate of choice, honorable mentions for Mana Web and Sands of Time, not particularly potent but like Rhystic will cause the hate to flow

  • @Jman1564
    @Jman1564 Před 6 lety

    One of my friends used to run Meren of Clan Nel Toth, but he moved away from her when the rest of us started running ALOT of grave hate. And then he made Xenagos infect.....

    • @54m0h7
      @54m0h7 Před 6 lety

      Meren is a lot of fun but she can be dealt with. She's one of my favourite decks, but mine has some silly things in it like Deranged Hermit. :D Last game I got to play Gray Merchant of Asphodel 3 times in a single turn, killing 2 players and taking the last to 6 life. (Who then died my next turn.)

  • @lanan101
    @lanan101 Před 6 lety

    Damping Matrix is a nice one

  • @MatteBl6kGoat
    @MatteBl6kGoat Před 3 lety

    Humility makes me instant target 😅

  • @darksorra
    @darksorra Před 6 lety

    Winter orb or stactic orb Why not both? You can untap 2 things but only one can be a land.

  • @thesarcasticliberal
    @thesarcasticliberal Před 4 lety

    Stasis +Wilderness Reclamation is absolutely degenerate. It essentially locks down the opponent completely while simply moving your untap step for lands to after your end step.

  • @bryanarmstrong8910
    @bryanarmstrong8910 Před 6 lety

    Magiester of worth is mt favorite hate card but my commander as well

  • @shawnbellville6978
    @shawnbellville6978 Před 6 lety

    Does Gaddock Teeg affect your own creatures as well?

  • @joshuarobinson845
    @joshuarobinson845 Před 5 lety

    i took winter orb out of my nath deck, cuz i after awhile thought it was a little to mean

  • @Kilbo388
    @Kilbo388 Před 6 lety +1

    Humility is better than torpor orb. Humility shuts off *all* abilities, TO only stops etbs.

    • @srt4tj04
      @srt4tj04 Před 6 lety +1

      Rudy Viner this is true, however torpor orb is easily slotted into more decks than humility can be.

  • @morganleonard8174
    @morganleonard8174 Před 6 lety

    should have add vorinclex voice of hunger, jin gitaxias core augur, and void winnower. look up that lock out combo. lol. no one can do shit but sit there and watch u win with ease.

  • @r_valkyrie7635
    @r_valkyrie7635 Před 6 lety

    I personally hate Insurrection. I have a good board state with lots of creatures, maybe my opponent does too, and with one card he/she steals it all away and I have nothing to block with.

  • @josephsmith8947
    @josephsmith8947 Před 4 lety

    Ritual of the subdual is a big hate. I use it and its way better than hall of gemstones.

  • @koboldbiopellet
    @koboldbiopellet Před 5 lety

    Now we just need Decklists

  • @drewhoffman16
    @drewhoffman16 Před 6 lety

    Any eldrazi with annhilater, especially emrakul

  • @nicholasjohnson6919
    @nicholasjohnson6919 Před 5 lety +2

    Is it just me or is anyone else annoyed that it's pronounced Thalia(Ta-li-a) and not Thalia(Tha-li-a)

  • @manaraider628
    @manaraider628 Před 6 lety

    What if you used muldrotha the new dominaria legendary with Smokestack

  • @p1k3r_offical
    @p1k3r_offical Před 5 lety

    Woo like number 700, lol great information

  • @austinchuilli3652
    @austinchuilli3652 Před 5 lety

    Brago also makes stasis broken with sky diamond

    • @soontm1032
      @soontm1032 Před 5 lety

      Stasis is broken in quite a few ways my guy. But brago stax is certainly a good deck.

  • @dirtyblonde1011
    @dirtyblonde1011 Před 6 lety

    Would Panharmonicon effect Iona's etb ability too? Everyone in my playgroup is saying different things on the matter -_-

    • @themagicbadgerman
      @themagicbadgerman Před 6 lety +1

      No, there's a subtle difference between 'when X enters the battlefield' and 'as X enters the battlefield'. So in her case, the order of events goes Cast-Resolves-Trigger-Enters, compared to ETBs which go Cast-Resolves-Enters-Trigger.

  • @The_Nerd_King
    @The_Nerd_King Před 3 lety

    I Miss iona!
    Come back Bae!

  • @schwarzertee7586
    @schwarzertee7586 Před 6 lety

    ok you just can't win against a graveyard strategy if you don't run graveyard hate. unless you go super fast and reliable combos or whatever. as soon as the game goes into turn 5, 6 without you being within winning range then you just can't do anything against all the value commanders like sidisi and meren accumulate.

  • @jbour875
    @jbour875 Před 6 lety

    i think you forgot one. there is a creature that is worse then Iona, and that creature is Void Winnower
    gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=void%20winnower
    it does so much more hate then people realize.
    just call it a Honorable mention I suppose.

  • @thomasomstead8236
    @thomasomstead8236 Před 6 lety +2

    No contamination or Serra ascendent?

  • @Collisto2435
    @Collisto2435 Před 4 lety +1

    Calling Rhystic Study borderline harassment made me laugh too hard.

  • @jeanegreene374
    @jeanegreene374 Před 6 lety +1

    Would you like to pay (1), or let me draw a card?

  • @Chosen1_of.the.NONexistent_God

    6:40 Tocatli Honor Guard

  • @Drengade
    @Drengade Před 6 lety

    winter orb or static orb? Why not both?

  • @lycanthropize1878
    @lycanthropize1878 Před 6 lety

    Doesn't Zu Zu the punisher do the same thing as ankh of mishra

  • @yoitsgunattack
    @yoitsgunattack Před 6 lety +2

    i love hate cards

  • @nickjoseph77
    @nickjoseph77 Před 6 lety

    I don't think Hall of Gemstones should be lower than Thalia or Kismet. It literally says players who play multiple colors cannot cast more than one color of cards on their turns. Kismet is merely annoying and Thalia is only a tax. That's it.

  • @Durgenheim
    @Durgenheim Před 4 lety

    I've always found it interesting that winter orb shuts off lands being able to be untapped, but snow lands exist, and can be untapped each turn as a normal land would.

  • @avijeu3
    @avijeu3 Před 6 lety

    I was going to say it but I see someone already mentioned it - how on Earth is Contamination not on this list? If you are ot playing black and cannot respond immediately, you are in big trouble

  • @samuelbanks8499
    @samuelbanks8499 Před 6 lety

    Time to play blue white hate

  • @Shadowof1ife
    @Shadowof1ife Před 5 lety

    I made some what hated red green commander deck

  • @miru021
    @miru021 Před 5 lety +1

    Hate cards or hated cards ....?

  • @jambostringo
    @jambostringo Před 6 lety

    It's brutal so yeah, very brutal.

  • @Mythicalreign22
    @Mythicalreign22 Před 6 lety

    Humility ruins slivers

  • @williamoldaker5348
    @williamoldaker5348 Před 5 lety

    Null rod is stony silence

  • @gageemerson4216
    @gageemerson4216 Před 5 lety

    he didn’t include Flash/Hulk...haha I piss everybody off with that deck and it’s millions of tutors...

  • @DJVinyl
    @DJVinyl Před 6 lety

    10. Smokestack
    9. Gin-Gitaxis Core Auger
    8. Kismet
    7. Torpor Orb
    6. Blightsteel Colossus
    5. Iona
    6. Static Orb
    5. Armegedon
    4. Omniscience
    3. Necropotece
    2. Gaddok Teeg
    1. Paradox Engine + Seedborn Muse
    This is just my opinion, honorable mentions were Bribery, Null rod and Craterhoof Behemoth

  • @vantain20
    @vantain20 Před 6 lety

    Gaddock Teeg plus Void Winnower....

    • @themagicbadgerman
      @themagicbadgerman Před 6 lety

      So, I guess just 3 and 1 cost spells? Where'd I put my vindicate and path...

  • @aquilesvailo4786
    @aquilesvailo4786 Před 5 lety

    I run a W/U Winter orb/Paradox/scepter deck it's nasty

  • @Patchwork_Panner
    @Patchwork_Panner Před 6 lety

    Galecaster colossus is a frustrating card

  • @lucyfaery2505
    @lucyfaery2505 Před 6 lety

    I have a monocolor deck for each color, and each one is well equipped to deal with Iona, even if they give her hexproof, indestructible, etc. I make it very clear that people shouldn't play that card, because when they do, they don't win

  • @imGrisky
    @imGrisky Před 6 lety

    Humility is zo much worde then torpor orb

  • @noelcactus9178
    @noelcactus9178 Před 6 lety

    stasis seems broken in a mulldrotha deck

  • @Shadowlink4546
    @Shadowlink4546 Před 6 lety

    Is Iona's third ability permanent?

    • @54m0h7
      @54m0h7 Před 6 lety +2

      For as long as she is on the battlefield, yes. She enters, you pick the color, that color can't get cast until she leaves the battlefield. Last time I saw her it was a 1v1 and I was playing mono-green elves.. yea that's a scoop.

  • @Zeb1904
    @Zeb1904 Před 6 lety +1

    Let me hit that young “first”

  • @Hentai_Akuma
    @Hentai_Akuma Před 6 lety

    Use Child of Alra as a commander and use them all

  • @williamoldaker5348
    @williamoldaker5348 Před 6 lety

    Torpor Orb vs Allies....... Torpor Orb

  • @Supsup516
    @Supsup516 Před 6 lety

    Orb of dreams > kismet as its artifact and hits all things even yours lmao