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- Fashion historian Raissa Bretaña fact checks the historical accuracy of costumes and wardrobe in the hit drama musical film Moulin Rouge. She analyzes how Director Baz Luhrmann and costume designers Catherine Martin and Angus Strathie created a mashup between the fashions of the turn of the 20th century with the turn of the 21st century. Raissa also explores how the film adapted three iconic looks for the two main characters: Satine and Christian.
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Annie Leibovitz
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Velvet evening Gown, Worth, Paris, 1898, Collection of Edith Kingdon Gould Family Descendants, Photography © Bruce M. White 2016
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I like how she acknowledges that the costumes aren't meant to be 100% accurate. Some others don't think about whether the costume choices may be purposeful and just criticize the inaccuracies.
They should do this in more of their videos, it was a nice change
Right? When she she mentioned his red vest and how it was on purpose for reasons A and B, I was so happy. But also there was reason C which is to match the Red Dress which is a common technique used in theatre to put couples or families in matching or complimentary colors. Reasons A and B could've been applied to any color but they chose Red for a reason. I will stop here before I go on a while costuming rant because I love the subject.
What is the point of fashion at the Moulin Rougue when all foreign audience has come to see are young girls dancing bare breasted and not the fashion,when i was last there i couldn't here a French voice in the queue waiting to get in.
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They were probably over reading people whining over something that would be patently obvious to any marginally intelligent person.
NO CORSETS NEXT TO THE SKIN, FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME!
And tight lacing like that was a popular thing 🙄
I'm noticing that in every one of these videos Raissa Bretana is in, her outfit reflect the movie/time period she's reviewing. I like it :)
hippolyte90 that’s why I love her lol
Her hair ✨
@@JamesGallagher90 I didn't notice that! In the mad men video her pin is a martini glass XD
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@@hippolyte90 in the Titanic video, its a ship, in the Princess and the Frog its a frog, and in the Snow White one its a red apple 😁
I can't tell what the pin for the Grease video, but the earrings I love
I feel like it should be noted that tight-lacing wasn't common among a majority of women. Women of the era typically used padding, both at the hips and bust, to create a bigger difference between the waist and the bust/hips. The difference in proportion is what lends to a narrow-looking waist. There _were_ women who tight-laced, and these women were typically of higher status.
Gina Yaroli I feel like she probably knows this and most likely would have done what any of us would have done and gone on a very passionate 3 hour rant about that very topic, had she been allowed too
Also the notion that every gown had a train....
Also the women who did tight lace were seen as vain
I mean she was a courtesan/performer though and it was a sexually charged/fetish thing- wouldn't she have been more likely to do it than your average woman?
merchantfan Not if she was a dancer, she would have had to be able to breathe as she was both singing and dancing quite energetically. Plus I think it was more the lower half that was more sexualized because you can see literally none of it under the skirts whereas with the top half, you at least know vaguely what’s going on, if that makes sense
This is how you take creative liberties when costuming period, by serving an aesthetic or narrative purpose that justify said liberties, especially when you know Baz Luhrmann's visual style of making movies (which are usually over the top and symbolistic rather than accurate). Thank you for this video.
Just a shame a lot of historical films don't understand that - I'm looking at you Little Women 2019 >:(
Lionstar16 i was deeply disappointed with the designer in that film, it was such a missed opportunity to showcase how time has passed, micareh tewers explained this perfectly
@@jacobjacquin Micareh Tewers absolutely roasted that film and I loved it - especially the NO BONNETS :)
I literally just finished my first ever fashion/costume history class and I now have a deep respect for films that take creative liberties when it makes sense to! This film makes total sense and is one of the few that has a right to take those liberties!
Jacob Alexander the only thing I didn’t like about that video was the Anna karenina slander, but other than that it was perfect
I would love to see her do Anastasia.
Oh that would be amazing
Yas!
I thought she already did...hmmmm
@@whitneyfeldmeier745 No. I just looked it up, and wasn't there.
@@whitneyfeldmeier745 Really?
I watched all of the extras on the Moulin Rouge DVD back in the day, and the costumer addressed the style choice of the can can dancers. Since they couldn't have the split crotch undergarments, they opted for bright contrasting colors between the petticoats and underwear to capture something of the visual excitement of the original dance/costume. It's really more of a nod, but it's still very effective.
I watched all the shorts on the website when it was in theaters. My mom understood how much of a history buff I am, but she was not happy with what I was researching.
love this film - but also love that she's wearing a windmill brocket!
Completely agree, loved that addition! And i might just have to watch the movie again was my favourite as a teen 🥰
(Windmill brooch* btw)
Brocket? You mean brooch?
Everyone to Glamour: Can you guys have better illustrations?
Glamour: Y'all hear sumthing?
I wonder if they like all the comments about it because comments help boost the video in the algorithm 🤔 that or they just don’t give a 💩
I mean they’ve improved honestly before they were just not good at all!
I volunteer as tribute :D
Didn’t know they posted this until Bernadette Banner posted it on her IG. I’m so excited to watch this.
I was so obsessed with this movie back in the day and it established my crush on Ewan McGregor which is still going strong.
Same with every part of this
The way he hits that lyric of the sound of music has done things to me since high school😂
Omg did I write this? XD ´cause that´s exactly what happened to me, I was ( I still am) soooooooooooo in love with Ewan Mcgregor and so obsessed with this movie, it was my favorite movie back in the day.
Dany yep that did it for me too, as well as “MY GIFT IS MY SONG!...and this one’s for you...”
♪♫Just one night give me just one night♪♫ me : oh please! he´s so charming wth are you doing Satine? XD
Does anyone else get the feeling the narrator, director, etc. didn’t actually listen to the what the Fashion Historian had to say?
They kinda sounded a bit bored to me.
So many people complain about the illustrations everytime, and yet they ignore the constructive criticism. Maybe budget constraints, maybe nepotism who knows.
per usual lol
Brentt Bumatay it bugs me so much because I literally would charge merely 40 bucks for that illustration and all the variations....
What fashions are you talking about ?the last time i visited the Moulin Rougue the girls were dancing bare breasted,and while waiting in the queue i could not hear a French speaking voice,i wonder why that was ?,such stage displays of topless dancers with male dancers are banned in many countries like mine here in the UK,and when the Moulin Rougue visited Sydney in Australia in 2019 the girls had to be covered up to comply with the country's public indecency laws.
I love that Raissa bounds the movie. A red dress like the one Satine is wearing, plus a little windmill brooch.
19 years later and I STILL love Moulin Rouge. I was a Freshman in high school when it came out and I remember watching it with my best friend and ugly crying at the end. And can you we just appreciate Ewan McGregor’s singing voice? El Tango de Roxanne is one of my faves.
El TangoDR is a banging tune. I get frisson everytime the harmonies come in at the end
I took my mom with to see it the second time I went. She loved the tango and was impressed with the coordination of the large group of dancers performing.
I remember getting chills the first time I watched those scenes.
Did anyone just instantly hold their breath when the diamond necklace appeared like damm it's just so magnificent.
When I saw her corset, I thought, where is her chemise??
Corsets on bare skin is probably my biggest historical fashion pet peeve! And so many movies and tv shows do it!
@@katherinemorelle7115 its for the "sexiness." i think. as though everything about the female body exists to be for viewing pleasure. I wish people could see that corsets are utilitarian, though somewhat visually appealing, they serve a function.
I KNOW I ALMOST DIED
@@danhurl1349 its awful! no wonder those actresses complain about being uncomfortable.
@@kjroth3132 that, and they’re probably put into not particularly well made, modern style corsets, that aren’t made to for them, and aren’t seasoned. And then, they try to get a historical silhouette out of that by tight lacing. Which would be basically impossible, because you just can’t get a good silhouette out of those soup can-like tubes people call corsets these days.
No wonder they hate it. If that was my experience with corsetry, I’d probably hate it too. No, what is truly annoying is that they take their one bad experience and extrapolate that to every women that has ever worn a corset (or stays) in all of history.
please do the great gatsby next!
Jacob Alexander good one!
Yes! But must be with Raissa.
The 1974 version!
@@gerardacronin334 the 74 version was more historically accurate, but the Baz version was much more visually exciting.
I think Moulin Rouge is a great example of costuming that isn’t very accurate, but is still amazing, and perfect for the movie.
I like to think the loose hair may be a signal of the unreliable narrator the story supposedly has. Maybe she did wear it up like a proper moulin rouge dancer but Christian saw her so often with her loose curls that's what he depicts. Or maybe I'm just being a romantic.
I will never understand how men’s costumes are almost always accurate but women’s are almost always a mess 🤦🏼♀️
Because men’s fashion evolved at a slower pace, women’s fashion keeps changing and changing more rapidly. Christian’s white tie look would not look that out of place in today’s world, Satine’s sparkling diamond outfit would not look that provocative to the modern eye, so they need to use visual shorthand to make it sexier, ending with a modernized look. Women’s fashion just evolves so rapidly so older styles a lot of times look ugly to the modern audience, which is the audience you have to speak to. Women were shamed for being vain and indulging on the fashion trends of the time, yet we end up with menswear that’s way more careless and less evolved imo. Women were and still are fashion trendsetters and films have to appeal to that
@@susanalopez5052 I can confirm about the white tie look not being out of style more than a century later. In many countries tail coats are still worn for formal events.
Because men’s fashion doesn’t change lmao
PaperCrowne it does change, otherwise they’d still be wearing animal fur
@@susanalopez5052 - Also, they paid Nicole Kidman big bucks to star in this film and didn't want to conceal any of her physical attributes.
I adore this movie, but it falls prey to the single biggest historical pet peeve of mine-
Women wearing corsets on their bare skin!!!! Nobody does that!
Why not?
@@nordette chafing. You'd basically rubbing your skin raw by the end of the day
@@mango_jelly126 ohhhhh I didnt even think of that
OW OW OW OW OW NEVER DO THAT
Preach!!!!
I'm a simple woman, I see this and I get excited and click
Honestly, I feel like analyzing for "history" is totally point less with a film like Moulin Rouge. It practically creates its own time period, and the whole point of the costumes is that they immerse you in the film's world, not the historical world. They did an incredible job, and the whole aesthetic of the movie is epic, despite all the historical inaccuracy.
she acknowledges in the beginning that accuracy clearly isn't the point of the film. this is just for fun/educational purposes lol
This video isn't an analysis or a means to complain about what the movie did "wrong". It was to show what was actually was worn during the true time period for those who may think it interesting. She even explains and praises throughout the video the merits of doing anachronistic costuming.
Andrew MacLaine Yeah I understand that. I didn’t mean to criticize the video, should have made that clear in my original comment I guess.
You’re not wrong for your comment. Most of their videos come across that way. Their frozen video drove me nuts because they wouldn’t even acknowledge when the character informed the fashion choices. Not even a historically accurate frozen would have elsa wearing a white off the shoulder coronation gown
Okay the photo references and the video are very informational, but the finished drawings are always kind of underwhelming, not because they are bad drawings but because most times the costumes don’t even match or don’t even look like the character. I get we are talking about historical accuracy but would it be so horrible to make her sparkling diamond dress silver and have the crown be silver or black as well?? This drove me nuts with the Frozen video as well. Specially because a lot of the time the coloring of the costumes is a big part of the symbolism for the character, and for the story. I don’t say not to point out when a color would be inaccurate for the era, but geez....
Susana Lopez Agreed!! Also they kind of are bad drawings...
Am I the only one who loves these videos but dislikes the drawings?
That black dress in the painting, with diamond straps! Stunning and timeless
Note that one additional "convenience" of not having a closed crotch seam on foundations/undergarments is that one could use the bathroom without needing to completely disrobe. Imagine having to take off a dress, petticoats, AND a corset... on top of the diabolical contraption that is the modern romper/jumpsuit!
Lol that sly look she gives when she says “split crotch... for convenience” lol
Also, I love this series! All of them are so fascinating
Undergarments of that time covered everything a thong doesn't and viceversa.
the split crotch is so you can go to the bathroom without removing any clothing
@@lindsey9958 0 ft. Sc
It’s funny that what was considered erotic back then is frumpy now 😂
I see Raissa Bretaña, I click. I love her way of explaining things, her hair and, of course, her on-topic brooches.
12:40 "respectable woman with a higher social status would have applied make up more sutily to create a flush look"
*Puts picture of a scandalous woman who wore lavender powder to look deadlike pale*
Luhrmann did not want to show the dancers' private parts. He states that the purpose of the different colors of the underskirts was to create the same visual excitement.
And Christian's tailcoat is blue, not black. Catherine Martin says so in behind the scenes videos.
If anyone wants historically accurate costuming then watch 1952 Moulin Rouge
I know they aren’t accurate but I love these costumes
Satines red dress is at the MAAS museum in Sydney. I've been down to the stores and seen and touched it in the flesh! It is gorgeous
I think there are better artists out there who can drawn something more stylistically interesting.
I'd love to see a Chicago analysis!
*mentions respectable ladies powdering themselves whiter*
*shows an incredible scandalous/controversial painting as an example of a proper lady*
Came to say this hahahaha
I’m so i happy that Raissa is back 💕 Love this series
I know I really like it too 😁
Love how she has a matching brooch to the movie.
It makes me giggle every time they use the infamous Madame X painting as an example of a respectable woman
Baz’s style is always over the top. And I saw this movie in theaters and people got up and left when they started to sing! I knew about baz’s style because I’d seen his other movies so I really enjoyed it!!
I can't be the only one that falled in love with Christian AND Satine...
Now that Hamilton is on Disney Plus I would love to see whats she has to say on the fashion choices in that show...
i recommend bernadette banner’s video on it
Can you do some retro fact checks like: Cabaret, Barry Lyndon, Out of Africa, The Color Purple
Yes! and The Color Purple spans several decades, so that'd be interesting.
The Color Purple is very underrated in the costume department
@@carlycrays2831 Tom and Lorenzo did a article if you are interested
Raissa never disappoints!!! 😍
Would you do Atonement next, please? I love the 1930's!
Always loved this movie. Glad I got to see the pre-Broadway show, it's last before the big move.
The people that haven't seen this movie are crazy
Its not on my country’s Netflix
Or homeschooled
I've listened to the broadway version but haven't found the movie anywhere :(
vicomtexdaae it’s on hbo max!
@@mtthinking sadly I don't have that :(((
Has she done Singin'in the Rain? I'd love to see that
Perfect timing!! I’ve been laying in bed all morning and I finally got up after this!! ❤️❤️❤️
Wassup?
My favorite movie and favorite costumes of all time. I remember I used to have the deluxe edition DVD and the special features had character sketches and names for every single Can-Can dancer in the movie
You’re hella fine. 👁👁
Please PLEASE do The Great Gatsby sometime! 1920's fashion is so unique and fun
the fact yall keep using that one painting of the woman looking to the side in the long black dress to denote a typical "respectable woman" of the era is sooooo inaccurate lol. that woman was absolutely roasted at the time for having skin that was too pale, and her dress was considered innapropriate. at one point the painting had one of her sleeves off her shoulder. that alone caused such a ruckus that the painting was edited for future showings. uhg!!! why would you do a video about historical fashion without RESEARCHING HISTORICAL FASHION?! bc you dont want to have to pay Raissa more i'm guessing.
I believe the painting was specifically described as grotesque, on one occasion at least
That painting is so beautiful though
Such a great episode!!! I always cant wait for more episodes to come!
One of my favourite movies - the costumes were incredible.
cool to see you Luke I love your music
Love this series and this woman is so professional 💖
her sly look when saying that the stiff collars "were uncomfortable, but men were used to wearing them" exactly in the tone people talk about corsets 😭😭😭
Love this movie since I was little. Watched it with my husband and he loves it too 🥰
All the fashion historians are wonderful. Thank you for sharing your expertise with us and educating us
I love how she uses the term 'fashionable silhouette' instead of 'ideal shape'.
Raissa explained everything with great clarity and I'm very satisfied with this video (the voice that asks questions seems a bit out of place at times). Also let me acknowledge that she's definitely gorgeous :D
Moment of appreciation for the illustrator! Don't know if they're new or just changed their style, but the illustrations have improved a tonne
Love this!! Can you do a fact check for Meet Me in Saint Louis?
I can’t get enough of this series!! ❤️
I had costuming teachers that worked on Moulin Rouge (in Australia), and according to them the first costume maker was going to make more historically accurate costumes and silhouettes, but Nicole Kidman didn't like the way it make her look. The team was fired and a new team was brought in. Kidman was going through a major diva phase at the time.
bruh
I find that hard to believe because the consume designer is Baz Luhrmann's wife who always does the costumes for his movies?
@@StrawberryLegacy Also, the idea of Baz doing anything but his OTT visual spectacle is...something. 😂 Even Australia, his most visually restrained movie, is full of spectacle - just not something you'd necessarily notice if you didn't see the callback to Gone With the Wind, or if you're not familiar with Oz in general.
I love Raissa!! Hope to see her back soon 💕 maybe she can do Moana or something? Or another film with a character that is a POC
Moulin Rouge is such a fun movie! Thanks for doing this. It was so fun to watch.
Great Video Would love to see y’all do My Fair Lady next
Do a video about Dr. Quinn Medicine Woman, pleaseeeeee!
Tight lacing was never popular! That's like saying plastic surgery is "popular" when only a minority does it.
My favorite film of all time. Every hour, every minute and every second is absolute an digger perception so what can I say, I’ve been waitin’ for this!!! ♥️♥️♥️♥️
Really gold.. Isn't it ?? specially black curve dress... Really innovative...
Specially they talk about undergarments... amazing it is..
Raissa always looks so fabulous for these videos!!
Glad watching this made me rewatch the movie for the billionth time.
This is my favorite movie ugh it’s so good
I was curious what was meant by " gentlemen's white dress shirts didn't have buttons, but studs instead." And then it went on to discuss cuff links.
I was just wondering how a "stud" was different than a button , besides being more fancy in design .
I am loving this series by the way, Thank you for posting these!.
The shirts fastened like cufflinks (basically); did you see how, when they showed the cufflinks and studs sets, that there were matching "buttons" or studs for the two cufflinks? Those would be fed through the shirt in a similar manner to how cufflinks thread together the two ends of cuffs.
I don’t know the last time I was this excited for a video
I've never seen the movie but based on all the pictures I had seen I always thought it was set in modern times. Show girls still wear stuff like that all of the time. I would have never guessed it was actually set in 1900
I love this videos so much!!! Can you guys please do the Danish girl 💜💜💜
awesome video! well presented thank you
This is so good! Possibly the best one yet!
This video was soooooo good! 💙💙💙
Love these! Where's one for Gentleman Jack?
I swear you read my mind like nobody's business I was just thinking of this video the day before yesterday
Moulin Rouge is my all time favorite movie. Thank you! :D
Yay! Raissa's back!!
I legit i...like i watched it yesterday and i thought that "oh they should do an outfit check like.. on this movie"and here it is!!!
Can you plz do Hairspray
i would love to see her do greatest showman! similarly to moulin rouge, accuracy obviously isn't the point of the movie but i would love to see what circus costumes would've actually looked like
I love these videos so much
I love these videos!
I love these fashion fact checks 👍👍 👏👏
i would love to see an analysis of the costumes in the broadway production of moulin rouge!
Can you do it with ''Gone With the Wind''? I want it very much
Do Chicago next please!
Thanks! Now I know what do make for my next cosplay club.
Do more videos like these please!
I would love she do for Chicago 2002
I’ve just started watching some of these. Have you also compared the looks of the movie CAN CAN?