The CUT Battle Modes of Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
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- čas přidán 7. 06. 2024
- One of the most controversial aspects of mario kart 8 deluxe has to be the game’s battle mode. While most people enjoy it quite a bit, there are quite a few that say the battle modes in the older titles are much better. But what are those old battle modes? Well today I’m taking a look at super mario kart, mario kart 64, mario kart super circuit, mario kart double dash, mario kart ds, mario kart wii, mario kart 7, and the original mario kart 8 to find out how battle mode has changed over the years and why some prefer those over 8. In addition we will also be taking a look at the cut battle modes that didn’t make it into 8 deluxe. So join me as I cover the cut battle modes of mario kart 8 deluxe!
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It really sucks how recently Mario kart has been avoiding elimination/last man standing modes because those would be SO nice to have
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I actually have ideas for it to come back. If the player wants to play Balloon Battle or Bob-omb Blast, there will be two versions: Modern (what we've seen in Balloon Battle since Wii) and Classic (the Elimination version from games prior to Wii). I'd like the next Mario Kart to pull a Smash Ultimate with not only the characters, but also the tracks, modes (yes, even MK8 Wii U's weird battle mode on regular tracks, with particular tracks available all the time and some only available if the Feather is enabled in Custom Items), and items. This would give it eight battle modes: Shine Thief, Shine Runners, Coin Runners, Renegade Roundup, Balloon Battle (Classic), Balloon Battle (Modern), Bob-omb Blast (Classic), and Bob-omb Blast (Modern)
Sadly it's almost certainly due to the game's bigger focus being Online Play and wanting parity between singleplayer and multiplayer in terms of default rules
There is an elimination style mode in Tour, differences are that there are items specific to your character/glider build (business as usual in Tour); you only have 2 balloons; and (only when playing multiplayer) when you're eliminated you will spectate on a moving platform and occasionally get items to throw into the arena.
That was what made the original Mario Kart 8 so much fun. If you were playing with others and you got elimated, you would become a ghost and would have to eliminate others, and make them rage. That was my favorite part of it.
Tour’s battle mode is actually pretty good. It’s last man standing balloon battle but when you get eliminated, you spectate the course on a moving platform and are given items to throw onto the course and hit people with.
Agreed, as someone who played tour for a while and did battle mode, it's pretty good, especially because they added special items to tour.
Yeah, somehow it’s actually really good?
It's no bomb kart, but if that is implemented into the next console Mario Kart, I'll take it!
It has battle mode variations of courses too, and not just phoned in like MK8 Wii U lol
Nope, tour battle mode sucks simply because you move SO SLOWLY, AND you cannot turn off auto accelerate. It genuinely makes me so angry.
The battle courses from the wii were really the best
No they weren't, they just had good tracks but the forced team mechanics is just really bad
@@TempoKongyeah thats why they said battle courses
@@TempoKonghe never said the mechanics he just said as their own stand alone maps are
@@-HMSH- my brain just skipped the word courses for some reason (or he edited his messages idk) sorry about that
Yea, the courses were solid. If only they at least had an option where it was single player, that could’ve been a better battle mode.
I may be wrong saying this but in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, if you have under 5 seconds in Shine Thief but lose the shine in that period, I'm pretty sure the next time you get the shine it goes back to 5 seconds on your timer.
And the 15 seconds in mkdd are like 7.5 seconds in MK8dx
You are 100% correct about that 5 second set back in Shine Thief. It makes sense so if the leading team loses the shine, the other team has a chance to catch up.
@@carterjames8829 Thank you for the confirmation
The brick tower maps are always my favorite maps of battle mode
Same!
Agreed, they are all bangers
Mario Kart Tour actually has some unique features in its Battle Mode that make it different from other Mario Kart games! For example, when you lose all your balloons in Balloon Battle, you respawn on high platforms above the track, where you can get items to throw at the other racers. It's like a shooting minigame, and it makes the battle more intense as more players get eliminated. It also prevents players from hiding at the edge of the map, because they are easy targets for the sky shooters. Another cool feature is that the Item Boxes move closer to the center of the course as the time runs out. This forces players to be more aggressive and risky, instead of camping near the edge and waiting for the end.
Never did I ever expect to love the 'Cut ______" nearly as much as I do now. I doubt many other CZcamsrs can replicate the interest and humour you have in your videos. Keep on posting the great content.
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Last man standing mode should definitely return in the future. I loved the DS battle mode too, it was a lot of fun and nostalgic for me
It returned in tour, and of you die in multiplayer or online you’ll be teleported to a floated platform above the track where you’ll be given items to throw down onto the track, similar to how you’re still able to cause chaos when eliminated using bomb cars.
@@randomguy2938 I do like how they did that, but the likelihood of hitting someone with one of your items when you’re eliminated is rare because people just avoid them
Sadly you didn't mention the Mario Kart Tour version of battle mode which added a huge changes compared to the other games.
It actually brought back the stamina gimmick from the older games, when you loose all your balloons you get excluded from the game but if you lose in multiplayer/online you will stay in a moving platform around the battle course throwing items at the other players until someone win, there's a Timer which starts when there's only two people left.
Balloon battle is the only mode for now, but you can customize your items in multiple.
Mario Kart Tour also added a unique future to battle mode which is the capability to customize your balloons and they added more balloons colors.
Correction: The timer can start with more than two people, it just starts after a long time has passed (I think 2 and a half minutes considering how fast Tour rounds are supposed to go)
And we have cities like Paris and New York.
I think we have 8 cities, if the Booster Pass have a Battle Mods +
Probably cuz he doesnt care for Mario Kart Tour.
@@alejandravillegas1605 correct because he didn't play it.
maybe it's because that's the worst battle mode in the series (yes, even worse than Wii's Battle Mode) the platform move agonisingly slow, and that is especially bad for a mobile game, literally the whole point of them is to be quick bursts of fun, not waiting on a platform to move to the next item for 40 years, Mario Kart 8 handled eleiminiation a lot better (if only it wasn't stuck in one of the worst Battle Mode's in the series)
I’m really hoping we get more battle mode tracks in 8 Deluxe. 8 tracks isn’t enough tbh. I want to see GCN Cookie Land come back
That's the only reason I play Mario kart wii. For skyscraper, funky stadium, and chain chomp dome
I noticed that there is no battle courses with water, but Delfino Pier could change that maybe
@@karlispovisils5297if that's the case, I do hope we will get a better course than Delfino Pier. It's way too big for a battle course in Mario Kart, and half of it floods by the end. I get that's part of the gimmick of that course, but why slowly lose more and more of it as you go on?
@@carterjames8829 if you can drive underwater now, the stage shrinking shouldn't be an issue.
i'd definitely prefer ds palm shore or gba battle course 4 to fit this specific niche just because 8dx needs more small battle courses
Balloon battle royale is pretty well implemented in tour
But yeah, the bob b is very funny too
I like last man standing and ds's shine mode, would be cool if those mods could ne added in 8dx with a switch (like time vs stocks in smash for last man standing)
actually you don’t have to blow into the microphone, you could also hold the select button to blow up the balloons too
But for some reason, the game doesn't tell you that.
@@jamesb.6197 yeah which is strange because my guess is that incase your microphone doesn’t work you have a second option at least.
It says it in the manual
As a Mario Kart 8 Battle mode enjoyer, we confirm that we live in padded rooms with straitjackets
Just give me Funky stadium and i’m set for life
Still sitting here, silently and optimistically hoping we somehow get a battle update for 8DX
The pause before the explosion made me think it was a jumpscare like all the other videos… the first time I was scared by one of his jumpscares, if you count it.
I was literally just re-watching your previous level by level, Mario kart videos, and then one of them you ranked them as a side tangent and made a joke about not being able to make tearless video about them anymore and here it is lol
I think DS was my favorite battle mode, not even because shine runners, I think it just had the most replayability and the fact you could play it in single player with CPUS if you had no one to play with.
I always remember just always targeting specific CPUS when I would play by myself for hours lol.
8 Deluxe's battle mode won't be updated. It's long forgotten and I'm pretty sure Nintendo forgot it exists.
Gonna be honest, I had a lot of fun with the MK8 "Battle Course." Me and my family used to play Hide & Seek with all thr track. I renmeber finding some really good spots too (Maybe there couod be a Hide & Seek battle mode in the future)!
It would be cool if in the last booster pack they add a new battle mode or two. They did something close with adding item customization, so it would be cool to see, but my holes aren’t too high.
Fun fact about Mario Kart DS Balloon Battle: you can also blow new balloons by pressing select
I think that you’re my fav CZcamsr tbh, I hope you keep gaining popularity :>
Thwomp Ruins has the best battle course music, and I kinda hope it returns for the music alone
I would love to see a tier list of all the battle modes in all the games for a SUPER EPIC LONG VIDEO 🤪 great video today tho this one is awesome
One thing that I remember my friend and I doing in 64 was when on the teered battle map (can't remember the name, but it had 4 levels connected by ramps in green and red colors and paired) was taking a red shell and returning to sender. If one of us was on the lower level of a pair of levels, and the other was on the upper level of the same pair, and both of us were on the same side of the respective level then depending on where we were in relationship to each other if one of us fired a red shell, it would lock on to the other and try to fallow them only to be guided back to the shooter.
Mario Kart Wii was my first Mario Kart, and now that I look back, I could’ve been playing better battle modes. I like the battle maps, but as to how you said, I wish I can play single player too, instead of teaming up with CPUs.
But a hot take I have. I don’t mind Coin Runners. I find it cool that you can collect the most coins and try to win over your opponents! And there’s a lot of risk when it comes to you collecting the most coins since you lose a lot when hit. It’s probably one of my favorite battle modes besides Balloon Battle, when it comes to how to strategize the victory.
I know 8 Deluxe came before Tour, but you really should've covered Tour's battle mode
Here's what I would do for the next battle mode:
Balloon Battle: Last man standing with a time limit. Whoever has the most balloons at the end of the clock wins, and if mutiple people tie, it goes to a sudden death round where everyone has one balloon and gets a free item (if they don't have one). If you die, you become a Bomb-omb that blows up when you hit a driver or item. Afterwards, you must wait 10 seconds before respawning. Bomb-omb players are removed if sudden death engages.
Coin Runners: Same as 8 Deluxe.
Shine Thief: Same as 8 Deluxe.
(NEW) Moon Catchers: Same as DS's Shine Runners. When you get knocked out, you just drive round as a ghost and can use items like in OG 8.
Bomb-omb Blast: Same as Double Dash, but you need 6 points. I don't see a need for the knock-out variant when we have Balloon Battle.
Renegade Roundup: Same as 8 Deluxe.
(NEW) Follow The Ring: A ring will travel around the map for a set time. Whoever stays in the ring the longest wins.
I used to watch this channel years ago & now well it's super funny
the funny parts are so unexpected!
I like the way Tour handles things when you are knocked out playing online. You hover over the arena on a small platform on rails and wait for item boxes to try to precisely fire down below.
I really love double dash's bob-om blast mode. That game mode was my entire childhood.
Also i remeber it being super satisfying to just collect the bob-oms, having a massive pile show up in the hands of the character was super funny and then knowing i could just absolutely unload all the boms on someone or jump out of a pipe and carpet bomb then was some of the most fun ive ever had with mariokart as a whole
This is such a good video idea actually. Good job.
When he chuckles at the together we're stronger meme was so adorable (platonically in a non-para social way) reminds me of my bb
In mkds you can also use the select button instead of the microphone
Always been a Mario Kart DS player and it's battle mode is great. The DS had so much control over driving that it was really precise when battling. Yeah it's not the most impressive modes or maps, but they're really solid without flaws. I love the strategic element to balloon battle, I nearly always stay at 2, to try and steal someone else's balloon.
Another thing I found out with MK DS Balloon Battle is that you can get your balloons by holding Select instead of blowing into the mic
8 battle maps compared to (eventually) 96 race tracks.
As of wave 5 we have 8 battle stages and 88 race tracks. Eight eight eight lol
My favourite battle mode is vy far the DS one. I especially like that you are given only five ballons in balloon mode and you lose if they all pop. It gives the mode a survival feeling instead of the mass-murder feeling of the modern mode. Shine Runner is also very great, as it also has this survival feeling and a sense of desperation to collect enough shines as to survive. I played this mode a ton as a kid.
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Imagine for Wave 6 of the Booster Course Pass that we get 8 new battle tracks to end the entire BCP on a high note.
We could also get tour’s version of last man standing in balloon battle, where eliminated players are teleported to floating platforms above the map where they are given items to throw down onto the map
Can’t wait for cut courses in Mario kart series
“Together we’re stronger”
Mario Kart 9 Battle Mode idea: Balloon Battle with the time limit and the last man standing rules. When the timer runs out, the game enters an "overtime" phase where everyone automatically is reduced to one balloon.
Hey Odyssey, can you do a ranking of all 249 bonuses (you know, the things you earn after battles) in Super Smash Bros. Melee? Melee has the most unique set of bonuses from what i know and i would watch that video immediately.
Also, great video man keep it up.
I used to love Mario Kart battle mode, and I’d love to give it a try again at some point
I was thinking you could predict the tracks and characters that will appear in Wave 6 for the Mario Kart 8 Deluxe BCP. Sort of like how you predicted what would be in the 2.0 and 3.0 updates for Super Mario Maker 2.
E.G.:
Acorn Cup: Tour Rome Avanti, GCN DK Mtn, NEW Piranha Plant Cove, Wii Toad's Factory
Spiny Cup: Tour Madrid, GCN Dino Dino Jungle, NEW Piranha Plant Pipeline, SNES Bowser Castle 3
Characters: Diddy Kong, Pauline
Double Dash's battle mode would be the best if only it hadn't been the last game to not feature CPU players. Just imagine 8 karts on Block City and Tilt a Kart! Because of that limitation, I'll have to call DS the best game for Battle Mode with Double Dash being in second.
The "what do I even need you for?" joke gave me Scott the Woz vibes. Good job, 10/9.
Sonic Robo Blast 2 Kart's battle mode does a mix of the bombs from SC, & item boxes from DS. You can choose to either assist a player, by hitting an item box yourself & then having that player run into you, or you can run into another player to hurt them. This is known as the Karma Comeback.
Nintendo when developing MK8 WiiU Battle Mode: *Let's make it as bad as possible*
They really should add both balloon battles but they might still change it because of online mode
I grew up on the DS and never knew less balloons meant you got better items
I assumed the risk-reward came from being able to take balloons by using a mushroom
Personally, I'm fine with the timer and having 12 people on the map. It adds a sense of urgency and means there are more targets to go for. The last man standing concept is ok, but it's more frustrating as in some games you can't do anything and the matches can drag on for a long time. I really don't understand why people have so much of a gripe with Mario Kart Wii's battle mode, it's always fun when I do it. The team option is probably annoying but I don't mind it. I think Double Dash and Wii have the best selection of overall battle maps, but each entry has a couple of standout stages.
Hey did you know you can hold select to blow up balloons in mario kart ds battle mode instead of blowing into the mic
Makes me a bit glad that CTR Nitro Fueled has a lot of options to choose from when it comes to the battle mode, such as removing time limits if you dont want them and such (a shame online play is uh oh, stinky)
Id love to see a rainbow road ranking
It's worth noting I specifically remember that MKWii does let you turn off CPUs, at the very least if you have two or more players, so you could do 2v2s with your friens.
You can also press Select to give a balloon on DS
You can play Double Dash with 16 people by using the broadband adaptor and connecting 4 GameCubes together just FYI!
Banger video and I haven't even started it
How does this person not run out of ideas!?!?!?!?!?
You dont have to blow into the microphone to blow up balloons in ds, you can just hold the select button (which would be the - button on switch)
4:36 YASSS COOL BOWSERRR🤩🤩🤩🤩
Was Double Dash's Lan play compatible for Battle mode?
DS balloon battle was PEAK. especially pipe plaza
Instead of blowing into the microphone on the DS, you can just press the select button and therefore save so much energy.
7:17 MANGLE 🤯
The reason I Like WIIs Battle Mode is the courses. They are amazing! But the Rules suck
I found this due to checking if BM is available for MK8. Only ever played the N4 one... That one was VERY fun as a kid (dk how it would hold up today). The block fort and donut levels. GBA looks decent (and owned the game;same with GC) but no friends ever got SC/a Gamecube + MK so...
Now can we see cut battle COURSE
am i the only mkwii coin runners stan out there?
i know it's 100% nostalgia speaking but i played mkwii so much as a kid and i was scared of the balloons for some reason so coin runners is most of what i played
and also i very well could be misremembering but i swear i remember playing a match as a kid on funky kong stadium where i collected every single coin on the field (at least out of those collected by any character, as every other character on the results screen had 0) except for 1 singular coin, which was collected by wario who was on my team
The ds shine runners rules could be a setting on coin runners
For the first point (timed vs last man standing), I think they should let the eliminated players drop items like in Tour, on a track around the stage.
I’m sh*tting and crying because you didn’t talk about the battle mode in Tour.
In MKDS if you hold down select it inflates the balloons
7:54 bro's playing with drybones
*dry bones for smash*
Tour’s battle mode returns to the Last Man Standing format, although thats likely because of Tour exclusive game mechanics
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe IMO is also the best battle mode, but it's severely flawed. For one, now your teammates can hit you and vice versa, whereas MKWII you could only hit your opponent(s). The CPU programming isn't perfect either. I've seen my own teammates actively try and attack me in balloon battle and shine thief. Renegade Roundup is my favorite, and feels like the only battle mode when my teammates actually try to help me and beat the opposing team. But even it's flawed. Some courses favor one team over the either (sometimes the renegades and the cops). Speaking of which, why are there only 8 battle courses when MKWII had 10?
8:09 that's harsh but funny at the same time. also was the hooded guy ur brother?
Can’t tell you how many times people cheeses shine thief and if they had it reset to 15 seconds that could’ve saved so many lives and changed so many Battle mode matches lol
You can hold select instead of blowing into the mic in mkds balloon battle
There's a lot of nuance in Mario Kart 64' battle mode that made it incredibly enjoyable if not the best Balloon Battle in the series. The bomb karts were a fantastic mechanic, sort of a revenge factor for elimimated players who could try and influence the match. But you aren't defenseless! A Star can destroy bomb karts (the bombs just disappear with no fanfare and the camera just stops and I gotta say it's funny af and the same thing happens if two bomb karts collide with each other and that was incredibly more funny to discover). Heavyweights being able to stun lightweights with enough speed is also a thing in races but in Battle Mode it takes 🎈 so the start of Battle Fort and the third track are hectic as players starts facing each other incredibly near each other and you can try to get the start boost. Finally the skyscraper track is very punishing, as you can get hit and lose a 🎈, fall because of the hit and lose another 🎈 when respawning. The items I feel also helped to elevate the matches. The green shells just bounce everywhere very fast, very chaotic in tracks with walls. The red shells were clunky and would crash into walls a lot, you had to use them very effectively. You can use your brakes to avoid completely slipping off a banana and losing a 🎈. The bunch of bananas (5) in a conga like were the BEST Bananas im the series, so fun to crash that line into a player and have all the bananas spread across the area (great sound effects too).
I enjoy the window into the small, strange world that views Battle Mode in different Mario Kart games as controversial
The reason that hardly anyone plays battle mode online anymore years after that game was released like mkw and 8 & 8 deluxe mainly because a lot of people like online racing more than just playing battle mode online and I think it got boring and tied off playing the same battle course after a while playing online & mk7 not included because of a lot of players do play battle mode online on in that game and not the other games I mentioned.
Holy run-on sentence.
Shine Runners is honestly the best game mode in the series, though Renegade Roundup comes close
Hopefully these return in Mario cart 9 or the expansion pass
Fun fact I believe you could hold down select in Mario kart ds to blow balloons up
I rarely play battle mode because of how often it changes, but I do enjoy MK8 Deluxe battles.
Thanks for telling me that advantage bowser has in mk64. Definitely won’t be using against my friend, who uses toad
Honestly, the only really bad thing in Mario Kart Wiis battle mode is the team mechanic
If youre just talking Balloon Battle specifically, then Mario Kart 64 is the definitive version
As a Toad main in MK64 I dreaded if the player that spawned across from me picked Bowser. If they start boosted correctly and I didn't dodge, or even worse mistimed my start boost and spun out, they could crush me between them and the back wall and KO all my balloons in the first 10 seconds of the match.
In DS, you could use select to blow up your balloons. Blew my mind when I found out
I can never get my DS mic to work enough to blow up balloons in MKDS
not now babe, oddessy central dropped
I was waiting for that fnaf jumpscare at the end. I literally had to put down my coffee cup
Seeing the name on MKDS just being "funny" made me chuckle
You forgot to talk about Tour's battle mode, such that it is at time of writing anyway
Bro is becoming Scott the Woz
You dont have to blow in the mic for mkds because you can just hold the start or select button idk which one but one of them lol.
Dry bones for smash