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  • čas přidán 15. 08. 2024
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    Why are some landings really rough and others not? Is it the pilots fault or is there something else at play?
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  • @Violincase
    @Violincase Před 6 lety +565

    A beautiful sunny morning, no wind no clouds, as my British Airways 767 flight from LHR lined up to land into Toronto - I was expecting a text book touchdown, but no! Huge BANG!.. overhead lockers popping open.. stuff flying about everywhere... people screaming...
    As the plane turned off the runway, an impeccably manicured British voice on the PA:
    "Ah, ladies and gentlemen, this is the captain. As you may have gathered, we've landed."

    • @andretrujillo
      @andretrujillo Před 6 lety +9

      @reverse thrust 😂😂😂😂

    • @onemoremisfit
      @onemoremisfit Před 6 lety +46

      The captain decided he'd sip his tea whilst allowing a cadet in training to make what should have been an easy landing in the ideal conditions ... "I say, old boy, you've caused me to stain my uniform!"

    • @h8GW
      @h8GW Před 5 lety +33

      I'm assuming British understatement humor is supposedly calming after such situations.

    • @sleepwarrior3386
      @sleepwarrior3386 Před 5 lety +7

      just for reference, we dont only drink Tea. Sometimes coffee

    • @liesdamnlies3372
      @liesdamnlies3372 Před 5 lety +5

      How typically British.

  • @CJWJR
    @CJWJR Před 6 lety +489

    An aviation joke that I read several years ago:
    After a very hard landing, the captain of an airliner was bidding the passengers farewell as they exited the plane at the gate. As a passenger in her 80s reached the captain at the exit door, she said, "Sonny, may I ask you a question?"
    "Absolutely, ma'am," he replied.
    She asked, "Did we land, or were we shot down?"

  • @willlasdf123
    @willlasdf123 Před 4 lety +50

    I feel like I've had two flavors of let's call "rough" landings.
    1) I flew Navy
    2) I fly Spirit / Ryanair

  • @ViSijGames
    @ViSijGames Před 6 lety +478

    Plot Twist: A 737 was on short final but needed to go around, because Mentour was standing on the runway making a podcast xD
    -Awesome job Mentour, very informative! :)

    • @ViSijGames
      @ViSijGames Před 6 lety +8

      Haha true that! Just for the banter :p

    • @aflyingchapati4395
      @aflyingchapati4395 Před 6 lety +1

      He ould have seen the plane and gotten off the runway genius

    • @insylem
      @insylem Před 6 lety +9

      It almost looks greenscreened. We know that he got proper clearance to be on the run way and would not commit an Incursion

    • @benjaminnevins5211
      @benjaminnevins5211 Před 6 lety

      Uggh, you wouldn't believe the things that you find with a mower on a runway.

    • @Samjones11203
      @Samjones11203 Před 6 lety +2

      Viktor Sijpkens - Aviation bit of a short and thin runway for a 737. Haha

  • @cowboyd5673
    @cowboyd5673 Před 5 lety +53

    I experienced a firm landing once, the captain came on and said “Ladies and Gentlemen, I just want to apologize about the rough landing and say. That was not the pilots fault, it was not the copilots fault, ladies and gentlemen that was the Asphalt.”

  • @aqimjulayhi8798
    @aqimjulayhi8798 Před 6 lety +363

    One of the reasons for a hard landing is a pilot standing on the runway explaining hard landings. Haha. Nice video, Captain!

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  Před 6 lety +182

      That would be reason for a go-around, I would hope.

    • @jetlongextra
      @jetlongextra Před 6 lety +5

      Hard landing makes flying more fun.

    • @danf2
      @danf2 Před 6 lety +6

      Haha, hard landing giggidy

    • @Torniojaws
      @Torniojaws Před 6 lety +4

      That's why it is called a cockpit :D

    • @khaldounmnb5197
      @khaldounmnb5197 Před 5 lety +1

      Not true. Captain's belly is softer to land on than the runway.

  • @richtrost2676
    @richtrost2676 Před 3 lety +5

    We were flying into Portland, Oregon years ago, might have been a DC-9, on final, flared, bracing for touchdown. My wife is a nervous flyer, especially tense about landings, when it felt like at the very last instant they caught a headwind gust and absolutely greased the landing. My wife was so impressed she mentioned it to the cabin attendant as we exited. This was before locked cockpit doors and she received a "Thank you" from one of the flight crew. Made her day!

  • @jettdad4507
    @jettdad4507 Před 6 lety +17

    A few years ago I was on a Delta flight and they made a very nice smooth landing in Atlanta. The pilot was standing at the door greeting the people as they got off. So as I came up I said, "Either that was a nice landing or they fixed that chuckhole at the end of the runway.' And he said, 'Yes, I usually do better with my eyes closed.' :)

    • @DVineMe
      @DVineMe Před 4 lety +1

      Never had anything but smooth landings at ATL to be honest. But then again I've only been flying there recently to avoid ORD (the airport itself, not the landings). Love that comeback though. Wish they'd give us more of that pilot humor in flight, would makes things a lot more entertaining lol.

  • @jroar123
    @jroar123 Před 5 lety +225

    Any landing that you can walk away from is a good landing.

    • @hmcredfed1836
      @hmcredfed1836 Před 4 lety +7

      i would say all can walk away from, but yes.

    • @jaysmith1408
      @jaysmith1408 Před 4 lety +9

      Does hobbling count?

    • @robertlinscott1551
      @robertlinscott1551 Před 4 lety +4

      My flight instructor said the exact same thing. My father who owned the plane always told me to at least retrieve the navigation radios. LOL

    • @user-ky6vw5up9m
      @user-ky6vw5up9m Před 4 lety +2

      Not true. You could have internal bleeding on the brain.

    • @jroar123
      @jroar123 Před 4 lety

      Ian McGreevy : True but who is looking at Ex-wives?

  • @ralph17p
    @ralph17p Před 4 lety +120

    You're dropping 100 tons of metal and rubber onto concrete. A better question would be, how the hell do soft landings happen?

    • @mayganphynix8267
      @mayganphynix8267 Před 2 lety +4

      good point.

    • @GlennDavey
      @GlennDavey Před 2 lety +4

      You're supposed to gently rest the airplane onto the runway at the slowest speed possible, like an old man sinking into a warm bath. Not "flying" the plane onto the ground.

    • @deadmikehun
      @deadmikehun Před 2 lety +2

      Airplanes luckily, have wings

    • @GlennDavey
      @GlennDavey Před 2 lety +3

      @@mayganphynix8267 No it's not. Bernoulli's Principle, remember we learned that in science class? Or do you not have them in your country?

    • @AnoraJohnson
      @AnoraJohnson Před rokem +7

      @@GlennDavey Why be so rude?

  • @RahmanSajid
    @RahmanSajid Před 6 lety +244

    Captain Joe had said some very nice things about you in his very first live stream Petter! I really appreciate both of you inspiring other pilots like me and Aviation enthuses. Keep it coming :)
    Merry Christmas to your family and have a very happy new year mate

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  Před 6 lety +56

      Ahh, that’s great to hear!

    • @mmarczuk1976
      @mmarczuk1976 Před 6 lety +9

      can you make a separete video on difference between mayday and pan pan pan. What are the criteria for use of them .
      Regards
      Martin

    • @laurentiupopa5001
      @laurentiupopa5001 Před 6 lety +3

      does anyone know what happened to captain joe, he hasn't posted anything for a while...

    • @skagerstrom
      @skagerstrom Před 6 lety +2

      Wasn't he about to quit his current job? Maybe busy applying for a new one? :) Doing tests, training for any eventual new types will probably be more importent than the channel. Understandably.

    • @laurentiupopa5001
      @laurentiupopa5001 Před 6 lety +2

      Roger Skagerström he didn't quit his job, AirBerlin went bankrupt...

  • @DenisOkan
    @DenisOkan Před 6 lety +29

    Dear Mentour! Thanks for another interesting video! May I add just a couple of clarifications?
    1. Many 737NGs are equipped with an ACMS system. If it is installed, pilots can easily get the G value from the corresponding MCDU option (MENU button -> ACMS). The ACMS menu works differently on different versions, the way of getting a G info is also different. Bytheway, some ACARS solutions will also print a postflight report in wich the landing G can be included.
    2. "2.1g and above" doesn't necesserilly mean a hard landing. It is just one of criterias specified in AMM as a reason to perform a Hard Landing Inspection. 2.1g (or 2.2g for airplanes with a 16 frame FDR) is only applicable if a normal landing has been made, which means, that the a/c has landed on main wheels first (with bank not more than 2 dgrs). If landed on the NLW first it is mandatory to do a Hard Landing Inspection. In the AMM no G is established for bank angles more than 2, therefore, pilots have to judge, was the landing firm, or normal... If any doubt - I fully agree - report about possible hard landing.
    Safe flights!

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  Před 6 lety +11

      Awesome points! I’m just referring to my own fleet.
      Thank you!

  • @TheNiteNinja19
    @TheNiteNinja19 Před 6 lety +103

    Hard landing, soft landing, just get it on the ground safely is what matters to me.

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  Před 6 lety +27

      Good thinking.

    • @mikkykyluc5804
      @mikkykyluc5804 Před 5 lety +7

      @god I mean, landing a plane correctly(textbook) is to put it square on the touchdown marker, which will usually make it a firm touchdown. Which is the safest, though also less comfortable.

    • @liesdamnlies3372
      @liesdamnlies3372 Před 5 lety +3

      Any landing you can walk away from...

    • @aviawavy1717
      @aviawavy1717 Před 5 lety +1

      Long as my ass.don't hurt

    • @blackvulcan100
      @blackvulcan100 Před 5 lety +1

      Yes but what concerns me am I getting on an aircraft that has just had a hard landing from the previous flight.

  • @theelectricmonk3909
    @theelectricmonk3909 Před 6 lety +6

    I always found landings at Jerez (Spain) to be the hardest of all, that was with Ryan Air. Hardest landing ever was into Manchester, I forget the airline, but he really planted it (it felt like). Given that even the Stewardesses looked a bit surprised, I'm surmising that was not just a "firm" landing... Got the proper response after complimenting a Virgin Atlantic crew on a "greaser" of a landing in Florida: "Any landing you can walk away from is a good one", followed by "And if you can use the aircraft again, it was excellent!". Even though I already knew the refrain, it still made me chuckle.

  • @stracepipe
    @stracepipe Před 5 lety +13

    Back in the early '70s my Mum saw a Vickers Viscount bounce on landing at Stansted. A wheel came off, bounced down the runway and demolished a small building at the end of the runway.
    We also landed very heavily, when we went to Gibraltar. The pilot apologized and said "I need to do a bit more practice before I land here again". I think Gib is pretty difficult. It's quite turbulent and there's a whacking great rock that you need to miss.

    • @thatsmallcessna8300
      @thatsmallcessna8300 Před 5 lety +3

      Not to mention a short runway, weird airspace restrictions, and a highway crossing the runway.

    • @DVineMe
      @DVineMe Před 4 lety +1

      Don't know how difficult it is, but it certainly has the weirdest runway ever.

    • @srinitaaigaura
      @srinitaaigaura Před rokem

      The rock creates some specially potent rotor turbulence which has caused many a nightmare for many a pilot.

    • @stracepipe
      @stracepipe Před rokem

      @@thatsmallcessna8300 before we landed we had to circle while the police cleared a car accident that had happened at the lights.

  • @stormchaser3115
    @stormchaser3115 Před 2 lety +1

    I fly a lot and get nervous, your videos are so helpful. You are a saint. Thank you so much from the bottom of my heart.

  • @furqy3849
    @furqy3849 Před 4 lety +38

    Air Koryo: we have the hardest landings.
    Ryanair: *hold my yoke*

    • @jamsya493
      @jamsya493 Před 3 lety +2

      fnd123 nah I feel like they don’t hold the yoke at all during landings

  • @yanparent2990
    @yanparent2990 Před 6 lety +30

    During my PPL, my CFI once said in joke: if the ELT doesn't start, it's not a hard landing lol. But tbh, landing a plane is not easy. It took me time before achieving a good landing, but all come with practise

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  Před 6 lety +4

      Hahaha

    • @avamendez1272
      @avamendez1272 Před 6 lety +1

      Lionel Lucario it's like dancing, you practice until the motion becomes automatic🛫

    • @losttownstreet3409
      @losttownstreet3409 Před 6 lety

      The same flight inspecter which brings spare landing gears (not singular!) to the practice area?
      Any person need time and practice until the motion going automatic. That may be a reason why you go from cheap planes (with practice tires) to pricier ones (with standard tires).

    • @ralfbaechle
      @ralfbaechle Před 6 lety +3

      It's a good landing if you can walk away from it. It's an excellent landing if the aircraft can be reused right away.

  • @josedacunhafilho
    @josedacunhafilho Před 4 lety +5

    I once heard from a commercial pilot that US made planes were designed to withstand hard (or 'firm') landings because so many US captains were former navy carrier pilots, used to slamming down a fighter jet on a carrier strip. True or not, it makes sense. I also read modern planes need to take a hit while landing so all electronic software 'understands' the plane is on the ground. Also makes sense. As a Brazilian frequent flier, I recall the old VARIG international flights that most captains landed the plane as softly as possible, and according to the 'performance' he or she would get a round of applause from the bleachers back there, which, depending on the smoothness of the touch down could become a full blown cheer with whistling and all. I have to say it was a lot more fun than smashing down on the tarmac.

    • @esahm373
      @esahm373 Před rokem

      Probably not true (the slamming down Navy jets stuff). Just doesn't make sense.

  • @henrychan720
    @henrychan720 Před 6 lety +68

    NOTAM for that little airport: airport is closed due to… pilot standing on runway explaining hard landings. Lol very nice video though.

  • @gerdne5478
    @gerdne5478 Před 6 lety +8

    Just some days ago I experienced a very firm landing, like you showed at the beginning of this video, probably even harder and nobody was laughing (if felt as if we "jumped" into the air again and had then a second touch down after 1-2 seconds). I thought "oh, how dangerous for the next flight, if that landing caused some micro fractures somewhere in the plane and nobody noticed it". I thought "there should exist an automatic instrument that detects too hard landings". I'm happy now to know, there are such instruments. ...I think you forgot to mention some circumstances, that can increase the likeliness of a firm landing: if the runway has a depression/swale/lowering (sorry I'm not english) shortly after or at the end of the touchdown zone and if the approach was not perfect like at my flight (obviously coming too high) the touchdown ends in the "depression" - a lower point and on an upward runway part.

  • @Farlig1
    @Farlig1 Před 4 lety +142

    “Why do hard landings happen?”
    Ryanair: “yes”

  • @Fraggr92
    @Fraggr92 Před 6 lety +42

    So basically, if the landing gear is still attached to the aircraft after touchdown and not scattered across the runway, it's a firm landing and not a hard one. Gotcha ;)

  • @ds975
    @ds975 Před 2 lety

    Can we just appreciate the great into and outro music on this channel!! Bravo!

  • @broke123
    @broke123 Před 5 lety +9

    I remember a very firm landing on Ryanair coming into Dublin airport earlier this year. I'll bet it was a tricky landing for flight crew it felt like a windy old day coming in, the lower we got the more up and down, side to side we were getting. I don't doubt landing gear are designed to handle some serious punishment.

  • @cozzinie
    @cozzinie Před 5 lety +9

    A cheeky SouthWest pilot came on the PA after a particularly bumpy landing and said
    "It's not the aircraft's fault, it's not the pilot's fault, it's the asphalt...."
    ...Mentour, I dare you to use that one!

    • @ihato8535
      @ihato8535 Před 4 lety

      You mean tarmac?

    • @user-ky6vw5up9m
      @user-ky6vw5up9m Před 4 lety

      @@ihato8535tarmac is not used anymore. It is also a health hazard.

  • @elpuerco6059
    @elpuerco6059 Před 6 lety +1

    Hard, soft, or firm, as long as I can walk away afterwards, then it’s a great landing!
    Excellent videos.

  • @petruzzovichi
    @petruzzovichi Před 6 lety +27

    You are simply a wonderful professional gentleman. You have great command of the English language and you have a Captain's Presence. I live in northern Idaho and likely will never have the opportunity for you to captain one of my flights or for me to meet you personally, but I nevertheless have, as many do, great respect, admiration and appreciation for your.
    I wish you nothing but the best and hope for a long, productive and contented life for you and your family,
    PJV in Idaho

    • @Dinara1up
      @Dinara1up Před 5 lety +2

      We need more people like Peter on the internet. Very wholesome, i hope you're doing great peter!

    • @glasser2819
      @glasser2819 Před 5 lety +2

      it's unfortunate airline crews dont get better payed.
      With his top karma Mentour will be reincarnated with million-miles frequent flyer privileges 👍🏻

    • @joannazhou1587
      @joannazhou1587 Před 5 lety

      Peter, you are a gentlmen in your own right. Best of luck to you.

  • @thegeneral123
    @thegeneral123 Před 6 lety +3

    Great topic Captain! One I've often wondered about. My first Intercontinental flight was on a 747-400 and the landing in Newark was HARD. Astonishingly hard. It shook me up and everyone else on board. I promise you, no one was laughing. The plane quite violently stopping on the runway. Never experienced anything like it since. The passengers I spoke to thought the flight crew had perhaps overshot the runway slightly and had thus put her down hard and hence the quite violent shaking and swaying on deceleration.

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  Před 6 lety +2

      Possibly, but its very hard to say without knowing the actual conditions.

    • @thegeneral123
      @thegeneral123 Před 6 lety +2

      Exactly, I had no real reference in terms of flight experience though the cabin crew did not look happy sat on their folding seats. It was Oct 2004 and the carrier was Lufthansa. I think it is more likely that they were perhaps training another pilot. Both flight crew were female, which got quite a few remarks from other passengers. Which I thought was unfair. There could have been any number of reasons for the heavy landing.

    • @ericarose3631
      @ericarose3631 Před 6 lety

      Women don't have the reflexes and calm decision-making skill when under pressure, like the men do. Let's be honest.

  • @kevinrussell7446
    @kevinrussell7446 Před 6 lety +3

    I like this guy. Been watching more and more of these. Very interesting and a good teacher.

  • @LandNfan
    @LandNfan Před 6 lety +1

    I flew as a passenger from Evansville, IN to Chicago years ago on a 727. It was a cold, windy day (isn’t it always at ORD?) with a strong, gusty crosswind. I could tell we were going much faster than normal, with a pretty large crab angle. I thought we should have gone around, but the pilot wrestled it to the ground, bounced, got it down again, bounced again, then finally managed to keep it on the ground. I was very tempted to ask if he was going to log three landings on that trip.

  • @Dinara1up
    @Dinara1up Před 5 lety +2

    Back when mentour has only 9000 subscribers! That's when i subscribed, so happy to see him doing so well now

  • @kwazidonsta3658
    @kwazidonsta3658 Před 6 lety +30

    Have a great weekend and christmas Mentour! All the best😉

  • @GarryWan666
    @GarryWan666 Před 6 lety +5

    Hello Peter:-). The gear on the 747,380,330,77 and so on,they are semi-levered gears. By this it means that it will reduce the risk for tail strike as well.

  • @areyouserious3092
    @areyouserious3092 Před 5 lety

    I'm not a pilot or very much in to aviation but I'm absolutely hooked on your channel. If this is the kind of expert training you give you students I bet we got some fantastic pilots above our heads. Brilliant just brilliant.

  • @javahedz
    @javahedz Před 6 lety +1

    LOVE your informative videos! I’m not a pilot, just enjoy the science and tech parts of aviation. In 2/2017 I made a round trip YVR-ICN trip on Air Canada 787-9. The YVR touchdown was the silkiest ever felt. I passed my appreciation on to the crew and Captain. Keep up the good work here, please!

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  Před 6 lety

      Thank you! Glad to hear that you liked it!

  • @Cargospotter
    @Cargospotter Před 6 lety +84

    Hi Mentour! Just saw the video. Great content and keep up the great work!

  • @lidarman2
    @lidarman2 Před 6 lety +3

    That explains all the hard landings I have been having with SWA flights.

  • @richardcreaser308
    @richardcreaser308 Před 3 lety

    I am ex RAF, not aircrew, an engine fitter. Most of my experience was on EE Lightning’s, which landed with quite a thump at the best of times. In 2015 I flew from Don Mueang in Bangkok to Chiang Mai using Nok Air, in a Boeing 737. It was a perfectly smooth flight, except for the landing at Chiang Mai. As a passenger it felt as if the pilot just let it drop the last 20 or 30 feet and it felt as if it bounced down the runway like a tennis ball! Overhead lockers flew open with hand baggage flying all over the place. I didn’t scream but most of the passengers did. At the time I thought that it was a heavy landing but after watching your excellent video about heavy landings, it probably wasn’t. I considered taking a train back to Bangkok but my Thai wife and my step daughter thought nothing of it. The flight back was as smooth as silk.

  • @GiftsbyChosen
    @GiftsbyChosen Před 8 měsíci

    Hey Cpt. Peter
    I searched for hard landings because I LITERALLY thought something happened when we landed in Miami a few weeks ago. We felt the descend (which made me freakout) it felt like we dropped out the sky instead of a proper descend, and then we hit/bounced/hit again and took forever to come to a stop I was by the wing and captured it, and it looked just like the example you showed in the beginning, but it felt like we fell out the sky. As a nervous fliers, it sent my anxiety to a 1000.
    It was a beautiful day in Miami, so it couldn't have been the weather. The flight back was amazing, but that first one scared the hell out of me.

  • @markholm7050
    @markholm7050 Před 6 lety +112

    Every 737 landing I’ve ever experienced, as a passenger, at Chicago Midway, has been firm. Less well informed passengers often remark, but I know the pilots are doing it intentionally. Trying to grease a Midway landing is a proven way to end up parking the airplane on a city street instead of a terminal gate.

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  Před 6 lety +40

      That correct.

    • @Matty12333
      @Matty12333 Před 6 lety +6

      Mark Holm Boeing 737s especially the 700-800 series land quite hard.

    • @markholm7050
      @markholm7050 Před 6 lety +11

      Tom Jardine I am not questioning your statement, in part because most of my flights in recent years have been on 737s, so I don’t have a good basis for comparison with other airliners. I do want to mention that I have experienced some significantly smoother landings in 737s, but never at Midway, where, it seems, pilots are more than usually interested in a no-nonsense, get it down and stopped, arrival. Even when it has been the same crew in the same plane, I have experienced a firm Midway landing followed by a smoother landing, usually at my home airport, Pittsburgh. The longest Landing Distance Available at Midway is 6059 feet. Runways 28L 28R at Pittsburgh, the most common landing runways, have LDAs of 11,500 and 10,102 feet.

    • @HelloKittyFanMan.
      @HelloKittyFanMan. Před 6 lety +1

      LOL, Mark is comma- and caps-happy!

    • @oscarb9139
      @oscarb9139 Před 6 lety +2

      Tom Jardine Its The Pilots, not the plane. They may be planting it because it is a short runway. Or because there is standing water in the runway, to minimize hydroplaning. But the aircraft can be landed smoothly like any other aircraft.

  • @petehuskins
    @petehuskins Před 4 lety +76

    Every time my girlfriend asks, "why's it not hard?" I reassure her that it's "firm" and she should stop complaining!

  • @aaronmicalowe
    @aaronmicalowe Před 6 lety

    These videos are so good at helping passengers understand what is happening on a plane and will, I believe, lead to less scared, more happy people on flights. Imagine if these videos were included in the flight entertainment catalogue. Learn as you fly...

  • @3tonyt
    @3tonyt Před 6 lety +1

    I must say I never comment on CZcams but I had to send my compliments to you on your video it was nicely put together, well spoken and spoken like a captain ...
    cheers from New Jersey USA

  • @MrSpruce
    @MrSpruce Před 2 lety +2

    The runway length may be one of the reasons that landings into Latvia were always firmer than the ones at Heathrow - I think many runways are a kilometre shorter.

  • @OneKindWord
    @OneKindWord Před 5 lety +8

    1975, on our honeymoon, landing at Mexico City, elevation about 7,000ft, we hit, bounced, hit again and stuck. My pilot husband said "we got two landings for one, more bang for our buck."

  • @Devinfrbs
    @Devinfrbs Před 6 lety +1

    I remember one flight into Toronto during a really bad storm. Looked like hail and gusting wind out the window. We had circled around for a while and eventually just dived into the storm. So many lightning strikes outside the window. Lady, stranger, beside me crying and holding my arm, me telling her it'll be ok. Hit the runway so hard my face flew forward and smashed into the seat in front of me. Almost knocked me out.
    If you're wondering why there are seatbelts. That was a day I was glad to have one.

  • @willshearer5428
    @willshearer5428 Před 6 lety

    I’m a student pilot in training and I’ve been to about 5 lessons but I learned a lot more in this video than I have in 5 lessons! Thanks!

  • @BEATSONLOOP
    @BEATSONLOOP Před 6 lety +5

    Emirates Airlines performes the soft landing so good that you might almost not feel the plane touch down at all

  • @SemyrasGerkhanas
    @SemyrasGerkhanas Před 6 lety +4

    Thanks captain nice and informative video as always 👨‍✈️ have a nice Christmas.

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  Před 6 lety +1

      Thank you! Merry Christmas you to!

    • @marcdhoore3388
      @marcdhoore3388 Před 6 lety

      Does water contamination of the runway not command an firm landing in order to avoid skiding on a thin water film and then performance of the wheel brakes will be dinished ? Marc D'HOORE.

  • @ACLTony
    @ACLTony Před 5 lety

    Very well explained. Saddening that trolls leave thumbs down. It's so easy for people with no experience to become "arm chair" pilots and harshly criticize professional pilots.

  • @t.j.sortino7844
    @t.j.sortino7844 Před 3 lety

    Here in 2020 and locked down again? Can't fly, but can watch all your videos and it helps me! Thank you so much!

  • @deadfreightwest5956
    @deadfreightwest5956 Před 6 lety +55

    "A soft landing is not a criteria for a safe landing" - which is why Boeing builds airliners for pilots, not bus drivers.

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 Před 5 lety +3

      I've been on a few A320s that got hamfisted into the runway. I would think that the side stick would give less control precision during approach and landing. As for the roughest landings I've personally experienced. United 757 coming into LAX while the Santa Ana winds were blowing, touched down crabbed and was slinking around on the runway a bit before they got it straightened out, and a Delta 737-800 coming into Denver in gusty winds, wind shifted during the flare and it bounced off the runway.

    • @Anand-cx8po
      @Anand-cx8po Před 4 lety

      Lmao. Stay in the 1960's death machines then Murican. While we trust our 'driver' to butter landings

    • @michalsoukup1021
      @michalsoukup1021 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Anand-cx8po laughs in Boeing 777 and 787, one had like one crash (No, being hit by SAM does not count) and second still has a clean record.

  • @maksim5078
    @maksim5078 Před 6 lety +34

    I remember a very soft landing. It was on summer 2016 and I was on board of a Lufthansa Flight to Frankfurt. I was sleeping. As I woke up, I had a glance through the window since I thought that the airplane was still flying. But then I realized that the airplane had already landed ! So I thought: blimey, I have not even felt it !

  • @fibecheee
    @fibecheee Před 4 lety

    without aviation youtubers like you,there wouldn't be avgeeks this much! thank you captain,for educating us through everything!

    • @marktaylor2087
      @marktaylor2087 Před 3 lety

      Right? Before this all we had was Air Crash Investigation 😂

  • @video3ish
    @video3ish Před 5 lety +1

    Best vids on YT ...all those questions explained & presented professionally. Thank you

  • @mwbgaming28
    @mwbgaming28 Před 5 lety +7

    I flew Ryanair when I was on holiday in Europe once
    My first ever landing in a DA40 as a student pilot was less spine crushing

    • @YesYouAreAbsolutelyCorrect
      @YesYouAreAbsolutelyCorrect Před 5 lety +1

      At least 75% of the plane have to purchase "Soft landing package" for 15 euros to have a chance of normal landing with RyanAir. Sorry, company has to profit. At least tickets are cheap, you know:)

    • @DVineMe
      @DVineMe Před 4 lety

      @@YesYouAreAbsolutelyCorrect Ugh Ryanair shit. A few years back in Rome there was a couple in front of us at check in, both carrying oversized backpacks (you know those big hiking ones). The person handling the check in just let it slip, even telling them that if anyone should ask she gave the okay. Me and my girlfriend walk up and she's like: you'll have to pay €50 extra for oversized baggage. That metal size thingie is standing next to her, I put it in there and I'm like: look, fits perfectly. Her reply: you're already carrying 4 items. Of course were are, 2 people each a carry on and a bag to fit under our seats (which was still free at the time, nowadays you have to be a priority passenger). Still had to pay €50. Worst airline ever, but you get what you pay for I suppose lol.

  • @TheAviationChannel
    @TheAviationChannel Před 6 lety +6

    You make great videos like always. Keep it up and merry christmas❄⛄🎄

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  Před 6 lety

      Thank you! Merry christmas and feel free to tip your followers about my channel.

  • @ledika42
    @ledika42 Před 6 lety +2

    Thank you for your informative videos. I personally find landings in the 737-800 (as a passenger) very firm compared to other aircraft such as its rival, the A320 or much larger planes such as Dreamliner and A330. I'm not a pilot but do work at a busy international airport and have flown B737-800 in non motion simulator. Not the same as real thing but gave me an insight into the mechanics of flying.

  • @BytebroUK
    @BytebroUK Před 4 lety

    I had one 'hard' landing and yer man did it beautifully. Wind caused over-rotation on take off, and clunked the tail on the ground. Came straight back around with a full load of everything, and set it down hard and fast. My nose was in the seat in front when he hit the reversers and brakes. Got a round of applause though!

  • @Pooneil1984
    @Pooneil1984 Před 5 lety +4

    Years back on Eastern Airlines in the U.S. the plane landed so hard that some overheads popped open and oxygen masks dropped from the ceiling. I suspect that this was a hard landing by definition.

    • @mwbgaming28
      @mwbgaming28 Před 5 lety +1

      More like a controlled crash

    • @DBR00
      @DBR00 Před 4 lety

      MWB Gaming lol.

  • @oleksiyraiu7190
    @oleksiyraiu7190 Před 4 lety +3

    11:50 "Liebe Damen und Herren, please turn off your wifi devices on board, our Captain will be streaming, he needs the bandwidth."

  • @snoozeCTRL
    @snoozeCTRL Před 6 lety

    Good stuff here. My most memorable “firm” landing was at SNN aboard a 767..complete with the bounce and heavy rudder input as it was very windy that day

  • @AvGeekPH_Skitman
    @AvGeekPH_Skitman Před 6 lety

    Another great and informative video. I’m no pilot but love airplanes and how they work. Thanks for letting me learn more each day!

  • @NealeGray
    @NealeGray Před 5 lety +3

    I've had some hard landings in all the flights I've taken, as a passenger. When I was flying back from Australia one time, we had a medical emergency on board and had to turn back to Darwin which we'd just passed.
    I heard the cabin crew saying you can't land an A380 at Darwin, but cut a long story short, we did.
    We were stuck for about 4-6 hours with the excuse the brakes needed time to cool down. What are your thoughts on this?

    • @GlennDavey
      @GlennDavey Před 2 lety +1

      Aussie here. Darwin is very hot. Checks out.

    • @232K7
      @232K7 Před rokem

      They probably had to replace the brakes lol

  • @embracinglogic1744
    @embracinglogic1744 Před 5 lety +3

    This may be a silly question, but I was thinking about it recently: is it possible for the plane to land in such a way that it may actually tip to one side and fall over? Thanks ahead of time.

  • @Roadglide911
    @Roadglide911 Před 6 lety

    I was on a C141B that landed on Ascension Island and the landing was so hard my ribs hurt for a week. Our hard landing inspection that day was 10 wheels, two wings, Horizontal Stab still connected, good to go.

  • @JimWebber73
    @JimWebber73 Před 6 lety +1

    Very interesting, especially your comments about some airlines being more prone to hard - I mean "Firm" landings... I am a regular traveler between the same two UK airports, mostly by carrier "E", and occasionally by carrier "R", both "Budget" airlines. I find that the landings by carrier "R" are normally a lot more jarring than those by "E". I guess it must be the different aircraft types...

  • @yay-3012
    @yay-3012 Před 5 lety +5

    The MD-11 is the King of hard landings

  • @rommysoeli
    @rommysoeli Před 6 lety +3

    I have experienced hard landing ( when trying to land on heavy weather ) it was 2.5G touchdown followed by weightless -0.4G bounce ( the pilot were trying real hard to ground the plane ) and then 1.5 G landing, most passenger were screaming as the plane bounces up. Even though the landing was very rough I still appreciate the pilot landings, I would rather face 3G hard landing rather than experiencing a runway overshoot. ( I record all of these with Sensor Kinetics on my iPhone )

  • @ronsmith6662
    @ronsmith6662 Před 6 lety

    HOL Cuba. 737 800. Weather gusty and raining with low cloud. Touched down with the grace and elegance of a manhole cover but from your video, I can assume it was a "firm" landing. I didn't realize that later models were more prone to firm landings. It all makes sense now. Thanks, and your videos are very good.

  • @mikeschaner5853
    @mikeschaner5853 Před 5 lety

    Thank you so much for your videos. I'm not a pilot, and not training to be. I have some fears when it comes to flying, and your videos help me rationalize some fears, and get rid of others. Keep the vids comin please, thanks again for the content, and for being a safe and knowledgeable pilot. And thanks for telling us why things happen in the skies. Really does help me get through situations, knowing whats going on outside, and what the crew is doing inside. 1 of those, if you don't know you start freaking out, scnenarios

  • @giuliof2000
    @giuliof2000 Před 6 lety +5

    finally someone qualified who explains ryanair doesn't instruc pilot to land ''hard''

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  Před 6 lety +3

      I’m not talking about specific airlines here. ;)

    • @giuliof2000
      @giuliof2000 Před 6 lety

      i know but who want to intend , will intend ;) fantastic video as lways Mentour!

  • @RahmanSajid
    @RahmanSajid Před 6 lety +11

    Amazing video mate!

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  Před 6 lety +3

      Thank you RS, you always have something positive to say.

    • @RahmanSajid
      @RahmanSajid Před 6 lety +1

      Mentour Pilot Always will do Petter

  • @Vidas666
    @Vidas666 Před 5 lety

    Great vid:-) , love background! Mine recommend for passengers, don't take a seat, where the gears are located because you will receive the stronger hit into the spin of your body.

  • @Brillig2
    @Brillig2 Před 8 měsíci

    Sometime around 1993 I was flying in to the El Paso Airport landing westbound (runstrip is about 2 miles long), when we landed, I couldn't tell when we touched down (and I'm the type of person who pays close attention to such things). It was the softest landing I've ever experienced. The airline was Southwest Airlines, and the plane, of course, was one of the 737's (before the 737-800 was produced).

  • @PelicanIslandLabs
    @PelicanIslandLabs Před 6 lety +10

    I initially thought this was a green screen background................. and waited for a 'heavy' to fly over you. ;-)
    The shadow gave away that this was a real runway. Where was this filmed?

  • @Carter4240
    @Carter4240 Před 6 lety +3

    Growing up in a military family we always joked that pilots who flew in the Navy will land hard and ones from the Air Force will land soft

    • @jaysmith1408
      @jaysmith1408 Před 4 lety

      I’ve heard that. If it’s a slam stop landing, they’re Navy. If it’s firm with a rollout, they’re Air Force.

  • @inveritategloria
    @inveritategloria Před 4 lety

    Now that I've memorized your 16-step how-to-land-a plane, this was logically the next video to watch! 😃

  • @TheCracker94
    @TheCracker94 Před 6 lety +1

    Super fun! I didn't know about the criteria to distinguish normal landrings from hard ones. I like learning with your videos. Thanks once again!

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  Před 6 lety

      Thank YOU for supporting!
      Make sure to visit brilliant.org/mentourpilot/ as well, I am trying to get as good response as possible to them. :)

    • @TheCracker94
      @TheCracker94 Před 6 lety

      Ohhh... I was just now starting programming my first neural network (a topic in Computer Science) and I just saw they have theory for that in the page. It turned out to be quite useful, actually.

  • @omyvillarama9483
    @omyvillarama9483 Před 6 lety +4

    Mery Christmas Mentor and a HAPPY NEW YEAR. 😊😊😊

  • @max77ekb
    @max77ekb Před 6 lety +3

    Thanks for another great video :)
    The question is: is that true that in case of wet runway a "harder" landing is preferred to minimize aquaplaning?

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  Před 6 lety +1

      Well, not really. The landing technique is the same, if the runway is flooded we shouldn't really land.

  • @AirwavesEnglish
    @AirwavesEnglish Před 6 lety

    Nice video, Mentour. I remember reading that a firm touchdown is necessary when the runway is wet to ensure there is no sideways skidding, drifting or aquaplaning. I hope you all have a FanTasTic Christmas. :)

  • @mrvwbug4423
    @mrvwbug4423 Před 5 lety +2

    I've heard that the 737 is really easy to land in a crosswind compared to other airliners, it is just difficult to get a perfect greaser on. My personal experience flying on them is that most landings are on the firm side of average, I've experienced a couple of landings where they bounced it. Smoothest landing I've ever experienced was on an ATR 72, actually couldn't tell when the plane touched down.

  • @markleyg
    @markleyg Před 6 lety +7

    Soft landings - Airforce. Hard landing - Navy.

  • @tecyhead
    @tecyhead Před 6 lety +3

    Could you please do a video on transatlantic flying and wether you would use the imperial or metric system.
    Thanks James

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  Před 6 lety

      Since I don't really do transatlantic flights its not likely to happen any time soon. But I will keep it in mind

    • @avamendez1272
      @avamendez1272 Před 6 lety

      TECYHEAD 5t flying the Atlantic is done with great care. more planning goes into one hop than any passenger will ever realize. it would require multiple videos on the subject🛫

    • @verdunluck1578
      @verdunluck1578 Před 6 lety

      There is an ICAO (International Civil Aviation Organisation) standard for units of measure. Most countries have fully adopted this system (although sadly not the USA in some minor areas). The units are well thought out in terms of ease of use and freedom from confusion. They are basically:
      Vertical: Feet and thousands of feet (flight Level is based on feet)
      Horizontal big distances: Nautical miles
      Horizontal smaller distances: Metres and kilometres
      Speed: Knots (nautical miles per hour)
      These, with the exception of the use (for some bizarre reason) of statute miles and sometimes feet for short distances in the USA, are used on both side of the Atlantic and in between.

  • @robertlinscott1551
    @robertlinscott1551 Před 4 lety

    Always a pleasure to watch your videos and professional explanations gleaned from years of experience.

  • @SEThatered
    @SEThatered Před 6 lety

    Once I experienced a landing in Moscow which featured very notable "freefall drops" right before the last few hundreds of meters above the landing strip, the plane was so sideways I could see the strip from my passenger window, and there was a mix of snow and rain that hit the plane seconds before landing.
    The plane dropped on the wheels so hard that I felt it in my spine, and then I could feel the plane sliding on the fresh snowy wet mush.
    The pilots did a truly outstanding job then landing the plane in such suddenly horrible conditions.
    That day I gained a huge appreciation for the pilot skills and responsibility.

  • @yasirujayasuriya7026
    @yasirujayasuriya7026 Před 6 lety +15

    do a collaboration with Captain Joe.

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  Před 6 lety +9

      Like Joe said in his last video, it’s on the calendar.

    • @yasirujayasuriya7026
      @yasirujayasuriya7026 Před 6 lety +1

      Mentour Pilot thanks so much for replying I look forward to the video. you a captain Joe in my opinion have the best explanatory video guides on aviation so I thought it would be even better if both of you were in the same video. great work so far I look forward to you next video.

  • @fernandoalonso5935
    @fernandoalonso5935 Před 6 lety +4

    Very interesting video, and as always, I learnt a new thing: a hard landing is not the same as a firm one ;)
    Merry Christmas!!

  • @craiglee3253
    @craiglee3253 Před rokem

    Former AF comm person. Several hard landings when mission requirements demanded we had to fly in extreme conditions that would normally have kept us grounded. Broken landing gear, blown tires, snapped nose gear. wing tip damage - and not all stayed on the runway. Yeah. If you have ever been in a hard landing, you know the difference between that and a rough landing.

  • @ProfessionalNoodler
    @ProfessionalNoodler Před 4 lety

    I was on a 737-700 recently flying into ATL during a thunderstorm and was very surprised by how smooth the landing was. On my return flight to AUS during a beautiful sunny day, we had a fairly firm landing. I think what you said about smaller airports having shorter runways was the driving factor here.

  • @joseantonioalfarosanchez4301

    Great video.

  • @Mekkiceh
    @Mekkiceh Před 4 lety +3

    3:20 I have a good excuse : I fly a glider !

  • @coolbloknaba806
    @coolbloknaba806 Před 5 lety +1

    Thanks CJ as always very informative. Btw amazed to see the very long shadow you cast in the video. LOL man!

  • @Lesnz2009
    @Lesnz2009 Před rokem

    Nice video. I remember doing tactical landings in 130s, Andovers and I think Caribous, the last two were twin prop aircraft with rear doors. The 130 tactical landings were a real adrenaline rush The aircraft would line up on the airfield and the ramp would be partially opened and the we would drop pretty quick under control and once it landed it would into reververse almost immediate and the ramp would go down but not touching the ground for obvious reasons we would undo belt get our packs and weapons and wait for the loadmaster to give the go ahead. One he did we were off out stepping off the ramp and sprinting to the edge of the landing strip beyond the wings of the 130. Usually there was another behind our one unless the second or third 130 depending upon the size of the strip and go to ground facing outwards weapons coked.. This is where the airforce aircrew show their professionalism as they could turn 2-3 `130s in unison and take off very quickly. A C130 might not be the most comfortable aircracraft but it is does the job. I never regretted a ride on one of those. Here in NZ they are looking at getting the C130J it can a bigger load and more troops. I do not how these tactical landing compare to. a firm o hard landing. you do feel the landing.

  • @itsnotallrainbowsandunicor1505

    That was hard landing "/
    Ryanair: But we got you to your destination.
    Ending yup 2 inches shorter just that moment?
    Ryanair: Drink more milk.

  • @richarddx22
    @richarddx22 Před 5 lety +4

    I thought that was a computerised background at first lol

  • @shatter382
    @shatter382 Před 5 lety

    it may also be worth noting that a lot of budget airlines fly only 1 or 2 series of planes. As such the differences you noted in the handling characteristics of planes, could easily play a role in how firm an airlines landing is.

  • @jimsteinway695
    @jimsteinway695 Před 2 lety

    Sheesh you look SO DAPPER there Captain!!! I’m used to you in your T-shirt with your slippers and puppies!