Keltec Sub2000 Gen 3
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- čas přidán 13. 05. 2024
- Shooting and comparing the new Keltec Sub2000 Gen 3
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You all know more about these than I do; I suppose my old one is actually a Gen 1, not Gen 2. Thanks for the correction.
Was this filmed at 6:30 in the morning or did you just post it at 6:30 in the morning
Literally just bought one
Yes, but you are forgiven. 😉 I own a gen 1 in 9mm and a gen 2 in .40 S&W and love them!
Hey @hickok45 ,
I live in Church Hill and I was wondering if you and I could talk about some important events coming up in September. We have an event being hosted by Tennessee Constitutional Grassroots Coalition in Spetember. This group is comprised of at least 13 counties here in TN and include around 11,000 TN citizens. The counties included are as follows: Anderson, Blount, Hamblen, Jefferson, Knox, Loudon, Monroe, Roane, Sevier, Sullivan, Union, Washington, and Hawkins. I would love to hear from you. Thanks brother stay safe.
I have the Gen 2 if 40S&W
Great bugout bag / truck tool. It'll take a deer in a pinch
I’ve been watching your videos since I was 17 years old I’m going in 26 dude. Literally all I have to complain about in this channel is the fact that you’re getting older 😢. Please don’t agar any more Hickok your such a big part of my life I just recently been able to purchase firearms and I’ve finally got around to getting some. It just aches my heart knowing that this type of content won’t be around forever. M absolute favorite channel on CZcams got me tearing up right now lol
you're 26 and just now started buying? Lmao I bought my first AR at 19
@@vladmakarov5597 Good for you. Everyone asked
@@vladmakarov5597I guess you deserve some sort of prize 🏆
Pretty much the same can be said for me.
Don’t pay attention to Vlad. Welcome to the party! It’s never too late to join but you do have lost time to make up for. 🤣🤓
I just got one. I wasn't sure what to expect, but after shooting I really like it. It's great for its intended purpose, but it goes beyond that purpose because it's accurate, reliable, and just plain fun to shoot. Kel-tec did a great job on the trigger improvements!
I've got a gen2 in 9mm. I got it because it can fit in a gym bag and uses the same ammo and mags as my G17.
Works the same with M&P 9mms great little backpack gun
My Glock 19 fits in a bag and does the same as well.
Hickok is the grandpa everyone wishes for
I couldn’t have asked for a better grandfather fr.
That charging handle reciprocating right by the cheek is quite unnerving 😂
Great review, always appreciated. Thanks Hickok!
been waiting for this review!!!! Thanks!!!!
If things get cheaper and better, its probably a free market. If things get worse and more expensive, it's definitely central planning.
What do you mean by central planning?
The OBiden economy
I agree if "central planning" translates to a government doing too much printing spending taxing borrowing and picking winners and losers
Who runs the central banks? I’ll give you a hint: it’s not the Amish.
Lack of integrated iron sights isn't an improvement IMHO. This carbine costs considerably more than the previous generation and now the buyer needs to go spend even more for flimsy easily-damaged snap-on sights.
Thanks, I been looking forward kel tec reviews
It's been 5 years since I started watching you and you did not change from your voice or your looks, makes me feel old.
Man I'd love to meet you sir I've been watching since 2012-13 right after I graduated. You are funny as hell 🤣 you've taught me everything about guns too 🙏 God bless
Finally a gun we can all afford!👍🇺🇸
but dont have to
I got the first GEN 6 months after they released it. I got it as a backpack carbine. It _easily_ fits inside a 20L backpack.
It is amazingly accurate. The 9mm has surprising muzzle velocity thanks to the longer barrel. My Cousin/Neighbor got the 2nd GEN in .40 S&W. I recommend that caliber if you already have a pistol of the same caliber. I have over a thousand rounds through my GEN ONE 9mm. No hiccups. Half a dozen jams - every jam directly attributable to my laziness in the cleaning category. I've carried it for hundreds of miles. It is a standard 4-wheeler / side-by-side carry for me. I use the 33rd Glock mags. I have 4 of them. Never had a problem with them. Never once have I had a F2F. It's always an ejection jam due to how dirty I have let it get . . . and stay . . . for too long. You'll get flack from haters. Let'em hate. I love this carbine.
Half a dozen " jams" in a 1000 rounds is horrible. 😂 one in 300 is a no go for most trained people. I shot thousands of rounds through mine never did anything but bore snake it and I don't think it ever had a malfunction beside the sights falling off.
@mikie1466 Did you see he said, If he didn't clean it, or left it dirty too long? That's always an issue, no matter what you're shooting. Clean it.
@@mikie1466 Reading comprehension ain't your strong point, is it . . . since your grasp of basic reasoning and elementary logic are, uhm..... _apparently limited_ , I'll explain in more detail. "Hundreds of miles" in a saddle scabbard on my Polaris, or in the bed of my K'saki Mule, means dust, dirt, sawdust, pollen, chert dust, ( _dirt roads - I live in the real country_ ) pine tree bark, rain, dew, humidity.... do you get the picture? My SUB2000 hasn't been indoors in 20 years. I have a Snake Charmer I treat the same way.
I've never cleaned the Snake Charmer. I've cleaned the SUB2000 maybe 3 times. When it has jammed in the past, i hit it with CLP, work the action and keep going. I've never put anything through the bore but lead. I don't know how many guns I own. It's that many. I generally take as good of care of them as the next guy. My most expensive weapons ( $10k and up) stay the cleanest ( and are rarely or never used) . My "tool" guns stay in or on vehicles . . . tractors, side-by-sides, 4 wheelers, motorcycles, jeep, trucks.
The ones that are exposed to the elements get dirty. Not a hard concept to grasp, bub. Maybe that will clear that up for you. Give me ANY gun and let me carry it around in a saddle scabbard on a Polaris for a couple of decades without properly cleaning it on a regular basis, and it'll jam. " _most trained people_ " understand that. My training? Military. Same as many people. Same as a large segment of my family. But I had additional training courtesy of Uncle Sam post military duty. I served my country in more capacities than just the military. Again, something several of my family members have done as well. Doesn't mean I ain't lazy about proper maintenance of ALL my weapons. It sounds like you left a bore snake or a ramrod up your ejection port some time ago. I'd take that out soon. It'll help you focus on words when reading and improve your level of comprehension. Good luck with that.
@@la_old_salt2241 Bullseye. Good advice. Maybe I'll be better about it now that I'm retired. Or maybe I'll get my grandsons to clean'em . They'll all be their's eventually anyway. 😉
I'd buy one at 10mm.
Nice review , the sub 2000 has always needed modifications to make it work ok , but the gen 3 has been refined .
Still an inexpensive , fun and useful carbine for back pack use , small package and handy for sure .
As mentioned, his is a gen 1, the gen 2 has the full rail that doesn't twist, but you can get a 45 degree rail mount that sits flush in between the pic rails, and mount a pistol red dot, and it works great, if you don't mind a 45 degree hold.
Also, You can remove the rear pin that holds the stock on, and relocate it to shorten or lengthen the stock a small amount.
FYI, that stock retains the recoil spring, so hold onto it when you let the pin out, so it doesn't go flying.
I have thousands of reloads through my subs.
Super fun.
In your early videos on the Sub2000 you really raved about them.
He was poorer then but now he can afford the HK's. :D
About a month ago, I picked up a Kel-Tec Sub 2000 Gen 2 as the first pistol caliber carbine owned (unless you count an AMAC M1 Carbine before being traded in last year, then it's the second one).
It's so special around the geographical area I live in because it's Navy Blue and thus very difficult to find! Also chambered in 9mm with a Glock G19 mag well installed. What a load of fun this weapon is at the shooting range!
Filing down the G17 version to mod it for fitment of G19 mags isn't too much of a big deal IMHO. It's just plastic on the hand grip.
I have the Second Gen 2000 and went with the M - Carbo flip up mount for the red dot sight. I prefer to have the sights on it just for back up. I know that I am not as proficient with a handgun as a lot of people. I am 53 and just started using handguns about 5 years ago. I don't practice enough with my 9mm handgun to be proficient so yes, the sub 2000 is a better option for me because I have shot more rifles and shotguns than handguns.
Nice back pack gun
My snub nose AR-Pistol with modded buffer tube fits my pocket
I don’t understand the “backpack” gun concept.
@@alexb7641 it's a gun that you can fit in your backpack ;P
@@randalthor6872 I guess that’s cool if you live in Detroit or Chicago. Probably easier to get to when you need to fire it out of the back of a Nissan 🤣
@@randalthor6872a Glock 17 will fit in a backpack too
Love the Sub 2000
Awesome video nice Kel tec sub2000 gen 3 thanks for sharing Hickok45
Great review. i’ve been mulling it over for years about getting one… the gen 3 ticks all the boxes now! i just wish you could get it in 10mm. thx for the video, cheers
Interesting. Not enough of an upgrade to replace my MCARBO Gen 2 though. Still, it will be on my radar.
I absolutely love my Gen 2. Bought the accessories from M Carbo. Probably my favorite to shoot steel with.
CONGRATULATIONS!!
nice upgrades on the gen 3
Would make a super backup gun. Improvements are good. At least for keltech.
I put a 45* offset mount on my Gen 2 and a red dot. It works perfectly so you can still fold the gun no problem. Best part the 45* offset mount comes in a pack of two for under $15 bucks on Amazon.
I like the Gen 3 fold & twist concept, and maybe someone like MCarbo will make a Gen2-->Gen3 conversion kit, but for now I just use a good quality QD mount for the green dot optic I have mounted on my Gen Sub2K... takes just seconds to mount and it holds zero just fine from shooting session to shooting session... have not had to re-zero/adjust in a very long time.
Folded like an omelet - Brandon Herrera
Honestly, knowing Herrera, i am surprised he didn't say folded, like your mom on her prom night.
Folded like a lawn chair - me
We all know what Congressman Herrera was referring to. 😂
Your taking me back to your roots Hickok
As a lefty I had to install a shell deflector to keep brass from flying back into my face. Other than that, my Gen 2 is pretty good and I like shooting it. I've got it set up for home defense now. 🙂
Have a gen 1 with thousands of rounds through it. Only issue was front sight started moving as glue failed. Put on a metal sight and no problems since. Recently added a Smith & Wesson FPC instead of getting the gen 3 as the cocking handle was easier for others to use.
i like the updates on it
Great informative videos. God bless ya’
Perfect trunk gun!
Definitly a interesting design even if the caliber is not the best for the barrel length.
I have a gen2 paired with a G19 in a backpack I use as a get home bag. Handy...
This looks better. The only thing I still dont like is the charging handle moves with the bolt
Flip up sights would be great.
The lack of integrated irons on this carbine are a dealbreaker IMHO.
Kek tec are for poor people who can’t afford red dots for $100
@@johnb.6468hahaha red dots are for people who can’t afford lpvos
I’ve had the Keltec 2000 Gen1 for years. I don’t shoot it much, in fact I’ll go 3 or more years without shooting it, then when I do shoot it, I remember how much fun it is to shoot and wonder why I don’t shoot it more. I wasn’t aware of the Gen 3, but I’ll stick with my Gen 1. I have two other 9mm rifles. All are a blast to shoot. By the way, I’d like to be your age again. 😊
Been waiting for this ahhhhhhh!!!!!!
I have a Keltec sub2000 gen 3 in 40sw, made the mistake of putting my off hand under the stock for added support while shooting from a bench with bags while sighting in a red dot, damn that charging knob hurts when it comes back, I still have the scar.
I think the Sub 2000 family, gen 1 to 3, is the best Kel Tec innovation to date.
The PMR-30 being the 2nd best in my opinion.
A carbine like this is just such a great tool.
Kel Tec are a bastion of innovation, I hope they continue pushing the envelope.
I had a Gen 2. It was a really good gun as long as I used real Glock mags. I did sell it for some cash but I would consider buying another one.
I bought a bag for a pool que and it fits perfectly and no one is the wiser
Adoro esse canal gosto de mais 👏👏👏👏
Hi Hickok45
Very cool gun
💥💥💥💥💥
Wow, very, nice fold-ability. How sturdy is that though? I mean, for a bugout / survival bag, it seems PERFECT. Looks relatively light too.
Twist like that and have fun putting in a brief case, lol. sticks out on three sides. Clay My Ruger pcc fits nice in branded carry pack.
Good day to all. Sweet looking.
“You get a little bit bigger knob” made me chuckle 5:45
@12:38 that ricochet sounded crazy 💪🏼
Thanks PaPa Glock, been watchin yall from the Good Ol’ dayz! I ❤ my MCARBO fitted Keltec SUBs G19 and G17, love them with happy sticks, Korean drums, suppressed, and flip mount W Red dot optics, still awesome Frankin Carbines!! ❤🎉🎉Oh and mine are Gen2’s built out better than Gen3’s thanks to MCARBO parts!! 😎🥳
Really like it, still like how S&W took this design to a whole new level, minus M&P’s minuscule bolt release. The swiveling barrel on the KELTEC seems to be a potential long term weak spot.
Thank you
Still waiting for them to release the 10mm
🔥 I can see them doin it.
Nice have you ever seen that conversion kit for a Glock. I got one years ago for my Glock 17 has a 16 inch barrel and I think a better stock than a AR's. That's quite a little shooter.
I have a gen 2 and it’s a very cool little gun but I’ll say one thing it has quite a bit of recoil for just being a 9
Been wanting one for years i don't care about putting on a optic so good with the gen 2.
That's a Gen1 next to it. Gen2 had a Pic rail top and bottom, but couldn't fold with a top-mounted opric.
This is a great truck or backpack gun. Keep things simple and just put Magpul MBUS sights on it.
I hope they eventually make a version with a shorter barrel
A few years back, my best friend's mom had one of these guns in an area that was not at all friendly to 2A. She was a remarkable woman and truly patriotic. Unfortunately, she died suddenly due to a heart condition she kept to herself, then a few years later, after the Covid plandemic, her son, my best friend, died from blood clots. Never thought seeing one of these shitty little carbines would bring back so many memories and feelings.
I absolutely love my Gen2 Sub-2k. My preferred paper hunter! While I'm getting better with the Glock 17 Gen5, I'm twice as percise with the Kel-Tec. It's a fun stapler.
I do get how a tall person might feel uncomfortable with it though. I am 5'7' and it still feels small to me. I mean, compared to the absolute monster that my Uzkon TR-100.
love these
Keltec can't keep getting away with this 😂
I have the Gen 2…it’s a great little platform…for what it is. No issues with it….and it uses Glock 19 magazines…..
It was the first of June 2024. That's when it happened and I will never forget. That moment when we were gifted the "DaFence Joke". Here to stay never to be forgotten. Thank you, thank you, thank you, for DaFence Joke. One day I will tell of it to my grandchildren...
Do a video on the Feather AT9
Hell ya i just got this gun !!!!!
8:19 looks like it's got a decent amount of kick back by your grip imo but I like it's portability n ability to switch out mags with a 9mm glock that is cool 😁
Man now maybe id get one
just wake me up when they make a roller lock 10mm version!
Gen 1 vs Gen 3
Put a 45 degree mount on my Gen 2, works better than you’d think or expect. (Needs to be thin, so it will still fold. Used: FENTUK Picatinny Offset Rail Mounts, 3 4 5 Slots 45 Degree Offset Angled Picatinny Weaver Rail Mount. I have no connection to the company) Nice thing the original sights still work. Just a heads up: Predator V2 Reflex Sight with 45 Degree Offset Mount - scope is ok, mount is too thick.
The 90 degree twist is a bit odd, but I've never looked at KelTec as normal lol. Not for me, but still a neat concept.
The Keltec Sub2000 Gen 3. Truly, one of the guns ever.
I just got this prize Saturday at our G show. 🎉🎉
Would you consider doing a review of a Gibbz Arms 9mm PCC.?.Thanks
Great property you have to shots
The Amend 2 mags, 33 rounds for under $20.00 and they work
The price went up and it doesn't come with integrated iron sights. I'll still be looking for a gen2. I don't care about an optic at all personally. Toys.
Great bang for the buck!
What and where can i find that grip tape you use? I will be waiting for your answer.
Thank you for being on CZcams it has helped me tremendously
You mean Talon Gun Grips?
Saw this and clicked immediately
think you had the stock in the shortest position there H. a recoil pad wouldnt hurt either as they do make some for this gun.
I'd rather have the gen 2 model. In my opinion, those peep sites were just as accurate as any optics.
u also can modify the rear sight if its a little low for some.
Fyi that's a gen 1 and a gen 3. You skipped the gen 2, my personal favorite of the three. You can get that recoil down with a stock pad, recoil buffer and or muzzle break. It has tons of mods available online. M-carbo and Midwest industries are my personal faves for aftermarket parts
I like you new Sasquatch target might take more than a 9mil to take that down.
Was that a ricochet at Mr Gong? 12:37
hickok must be a national treasure in his local are where he lives
Did you know that He played himself in episode of zombie-apocaliptic movie?
Wanted one for a while...
I have the Gen II in 9mm and .40 S&W; both take Glock mags. Both are reliable and fun shooters!
is there a really difference between 40sw and 9mm? 40sw have more energy from 16 inches?
When I was in the gun business we were able to sell all the SUB 2000's we could get but availability of those guns from our distributors just plain sucked!
Availability sucked for everything Keltec. But there's an interesting reason. Everything is built in their factory, and all equipment is payed for, they have no loans. This is good for them, but bad when the market wants more products than they can ship. In order to expand most would go get a huge loan for the new equipment and buildings, but Keltec don't want to acquire huge loans and instead works at collecting the money needed before building more capacity. This may seem the wrong way to do this but the advantage is they don't have to worry about payment of loans. What they have is theirs and no bank is lifting interests from their work.
I'd still go with the PC carbine
I have a gen 2 with a flip over red-dot mount. The gen 3 with the twist barrel is pretty cool but I'm not sure I would trade mine for one.
I like the older flip mount better!
Any chance of a retro kit?
I kinda think the original looks cooler. I don't know how to explain it. It looks retro almost. Such a unique little carbine. +Glock mags ftw! 👍