Whenever it is a rich person its always hard to prove they had intent, but that never seems to be the case for regular folk. When we do something like this, they don't ask what your intent was, even if you made a mistake, the law will just treat you like you knew what you are doing. We live in an aristocracy!
@@peltpeltington9991 Biden / Justin Castro / AOC / Omar / every Democrat Governor whose cities due under crime . Bring back the MAN!!! trump !!! Biden is seriously an Ill 😷 man , whose cognitive abilities decline in front of us !!!! . Harris is a low IQ, affirmative action hire as VP. Please tell me more people voted for those two propeller heads over a true leader like Trump Scratch a liberal - find a fascist .
It means SDNY is very hot on the trail of something, and the heat just got to be too much for Mazar. They're not going to get out of this without some punishment. This is just a move on their part to lessen the damage.
Trump has been crying out for equal justice for the 1/6 traitors/cowards. I'm all for Trump getting his equal justice. Like you said, "ANY other person would already be in prison", is true. Lock that Orange Traitor UP!
I agree. However in this case before we pull the trigger on Trump we have to make sure it is 200 percent air tight. There is no way people they want to let this dude off on a technicalities.
That accounting firm was not really auditing the statements for 10 years. They are trying to cover their behinds, every year they said the statements were accurate. Apparently, it was another lie.
Exactly. They were happy to collect a fee to produce a bull spit financial statement but if someone with the ability to enforce wants to look at it closely then they don’t want to take any responsibility. That’s the sort of firm that Trump would want, for sure.
What makes you think that they were auditing the Trump Organisation? I'd assume that they were only tasked with submitting financial statements to the relevant authorities based on what sworn information was provided by the Trumps.
If Trump had been forced to reveal his taxes, like "POTENTIAL" Presidental Candidates has always done, WE wouldn't be in the NIGHTMARE we're living TODAY!!!
Previous presidential candidates revealed their tax returns as a COURTESY, their is no law, no regulations regarding this. The fact that Trump wouldn't do that should have been a red flag, not a big flag, but still. As I have said many times: PBS ran a documentary TWICE before election day 2016 that did a pretty good laying out EVERYTHING wrong with Trump. The folks that needed to see it, don't watch PBS. On CZcams look for a video titled Decision 2016...or something like that (I forget the exact title). And it also includes a generous amount about Hillary, so it's not one sided.
The IRS has and has always had his tax statements. The most ruthless, brutal, sadistic agency in all of government hasn't done something after all these years? Why? Don't think for a moment they haven't looked. Because there wasn't something? To believe otherwise is more than stupid it's Bama'votin stupid.
I hope Mazars will be standing in line for justice also. I realize how difficult it is to prove intent, however, Mazars had all the information from the beginning. It doesn't matter whether the info provided by Trump and Co. was true or not, the accountants had the numbers that were used to do tax returns. It's well known and documented that Trump inflated and deflated assets, and this would have been shown on tax returns. At some point, the numbers given to Mazars would conflict with earlier numbers, and they had a duty THEN to investigate and attempt to reconcile the numbers. They didn't. They waited until the heat was turned up full blast and no doubt they are feeling it and THEN made the decision to try to extricate themselves. You're a day late and a dollar short, Mazars. Your reputation has a huge brown (or orange) stain on it, and I would be seriously surprised if at least some of your people are not going to be fitted for jumpsuits. Couldn't happen to a finer bunch of folks.
Margie Large-O Mussolini Bwahaha it's standard practice to do what Trump did..If they go after Trump for it they will have to go after every real estate banker too but oh yeah , it's not about financial crime IT'S ABOUT GOING AFTER POLITICAL OPPONENTS PLAIN AND SIMPLE !
@@toobmaniac If you really believe that about other businesses, you should be happy to see Trump under indictment. I don't think it's true, but if it is, it better to find out sooner than later. I'll bet you're one of the people who chanted "lock her up" about Hillary Clinton, hypocrite.
@@toobmaniac why is everything politics? Its a shame you guys always attribute everything to politics, just the same way some people tie everything to racism. How do you expect the most powerful man in the world not have impeccable characters. Whoever still supports this guy lacks morals, principles and integrity. Above all, they put their political party first before this great country
Is this what these accounting firms call "stated income" when they do someone's financials? So Donald Trump was allowed to state the value of his assets without these firms verifying the veracity of his statements? I say prosecute the accounting firm as well.
~~~ fly-by-night taking a grifters word for it~ no wonder Mars is ditching the grifter~ because they’re probably liable for just what you’re saying and then the government paid Trump maybe Mars is gonna pay the government back..?..!..🤷♂️
Trump like all clients gives the firm their financial information, believing it is accurate and true, it is not their job to hope it is accurate and true...Trump is responsible for his fake documentation.
No CPA or accounting firm goes to the expense of researching and investigating every client. They'd be bankrupt if they did. They basically came out and admitted, The Trump Org had been lying to them, filing fake financial documents from 2011, to 2021. They dropped the Trump org, claiming they can no longer trust any of the documents coming from that Org.
They only performed an internal investigation into Trump, after Trump was named in 4 separate Grand Juries for bank fraud, money laundering, and tax evasion. This prompted the internal investigation which discovered the fake financial documents and prompted the accounting firm the fire the Trump org. To be fair, it is likely they knew Trump fudged the numbers and kept him as a client anyway, but once Trump became a defendant in multiple cases, they had to drop him as a client, or be pulled into the same legal discoveries and defense.
@@jeremybackup5758 ~ Second part of your statement is what I was stating~ The red flags of the Trump organization were flying the accounting firm was ditching him..?..!..🤷♂️ ps. Jumping ship~ they just couldn’t sail any more adventures..! 🏌️♂️
Yes, assuming they have been certified as a true and fair view. However, technically speaking, the materiality principle would require further testing to determine the extent of the "errors". Normally if profits or assets are mis-reported by 5% to 10% then that would be considered material.
@@fincorrigan7139 Theres ZERO chance that this disgusting liar only mis-reported his financials by only 5-10% . Its more likely thats its in the 500-1000% range 🤣🤣😂😂. We all remember the 5 dead voters that he claimed was 5000 so my range is absolutly realistic
Naw- it’s a compilation. Read a standard compilation report, it specifically says ‘we were not required to perform procedures to verify the accuracy or completeness of information provided by management’. However, if information becomes available where you know the financials to be false- you need to do what Mazars did.
@@We_Finally_Beat_Medicare No report of Faux Fox "News" about the 15--FIFTEEN boxes of NATIONAL DOCS that he STOLE & took to Mar a Lardo. trump + national docs==== EAT them TEAR them up BURN them FLUSH them--bc he's mentally 2 STEAL Them & take them to Mar a Lardo
This sound too fishy. People are everywhere trying to blame trump for something and nothing shown with proves. When they found truth with the last election, they didn't approve those. Just think how hard they had tried to put away Trump. I think they found who was managing Trump account, they found a way to despise him and make it look legit and now say a decade later we found something. Uh hmm. Mind blown. Arrest Biden and Pelosi for inside trade and accepting funds that is Federal sentence. Not some tax invasion when a person that has businesses and loop hole made for business mens and women. I call BS on this. Not trying to defend all in on Trump, this sound fishy is all I am saying. Not Trump but a decade record of nothing to now this. Smh.
Sounds like you don't "trust" MSDNC! That's a no no! Between MSDNC and SNOPES I get some of my "best" information! I listen to what they say... and then I reverse the meaning! Works 99% of the time! The next few months will be "interesting". General ROM L anyone?
Accounting firm, until 2020: Yawn here's your tax return. Keep stealing money. Accounting firm, under NYS investigation: OMG you are radioactive go away.
Trump is nothing more than a glorified front for the NY mob for decades, so there is an element of danger to yourself and your family if you threaten the well oiled machine that launders tens of millions of dollars for you every year.
This means that SDNY is moving aggressively behind the scenes .. or under the surface. Mazar just jumped out of the pool. There's blood in the water and they don't want to be the next meal.
Arthur Anderson. In Oz they had some of the most attractive auditors I have ever seen. A Cute smile works wonders when your dealing with large sums of money.
The firm was indicted years ago and collapsed. Now we have to see what happens to Mazars. This is not good but I don’t think their business is at risk. They have thrown it back to the Trump Organization who now has to find some way to defend against fraud charges.
God bless but you’re wrong. Trumps firm did not destroy evidence. Andersen was convicted of obstruction of justice for shredding documents related to its audit of Enron, resulting in what infamously became known as the Enron scandal. ... Big-name accounting scandals linked to Arthur Andersen went on to include Waste Management, Sunbeam, and WorldCom all crooks.
Mazars would be reminded what the Former acct firm, Arthur Anderson did for Bernie Madoff. They've got a lot more explaining to do with this inconvenient client.
Arthus Andersen went bankrupt because they obstructed Justice in the Enron case (they were Enron's accounting firm and shredded over 1 ton of documents). Madoff didn't use an accounting firm.
So how many things does this man have to be guilty of before eventually he actually has to answer for himself ... I mean it appears to me it takes an ocean of wrong to get a rich or influential person in any kind of trouble ... Me ... I fart in an elevator by a DA I'm going to prison for assault on an official lol
That’s the thing, he won’t. We need to stop believing he will, because he won’t. The reason why he and many other crooks who have corrupted America since day one is because of capitalism. It is what is protecting them and they know it. Believe it or not, it’s the truth.
It kinda sounds like John Gotti the Teflon Don. Trump has been leading of life of crime for so many years due to his use of other individuals that will always keep him at arms length from the actual crime. I think they are systematically going after his enablers to finally get to him. Very slow process, as this guy has always acted with a fall guy in mind.
WHO CARES? His lying never affected me or anybody I know. You know what DOES affect me? Gas prices, food prices, runaway inflation, a porous southern border...etc. He can lie all he wants as long as he can keep the country from imploding.
@@drewpknutz1410 When rich people like Trump commit tax fraud, all other taxpayers including you have to pay more taxes to make up the tax revenue shortfall, so it does affect you. Also, if we can't trust Trump to follow the law in his personal life, how can we trust him to follow the law as a president? Trump can only be relied upon to do what's best for him, even at the expense of the country. Also, inflation is a problem that started before Biden took office, with the money printing starting with COVID. I'm not defending Biden since he's also to blame, but not solely to blame.
The accounting firm is dumping him. Like it took forever for pur government to put away Al Capone. It sl lomg because they had to start from the very bottom and work tjeir way up. The Party of Trump is being treated like an organization not just a political party. Which that alone adds even more hoops, set on fire, for our justice system to jump through.
If only....there's only been about 300 different attempts to catch the man doing something...and every single one has failed. You are so blinded by Trump that you are literally ignoring the collapse of your country....actually I take that back. You aren't ignoring it. It's exactly what you want. Death to America huh?
OMG great point! This should precipitate the swift collapse of the Trump empire! The banks will scramble to get their money back, because declaration of bankruptcy will be forced, and they will be lucky to collect pennies for dollars. Hopefully the public won’t have to pay for the banks incompetence. Again.
@@mattjacks0n83 what happened was treasonous, but you don’t even blink an eye. Do you understand that your party fabricated a story and spied on a sitting President? Then liberal media, which is nothing more than the propaganda wing of the DNC, ran this fabricated story for almost 3 years. Do you not grasp the magnitude of the situation? Or are you just so brainwashed that you think this sorta behavior is warranted?
@@benjaminvalenzuela3948 The whole spygate story is nonsense and has been debunked over and over again, and yet morons like you still continue to believe it, probably because Fox News continues to push it. It's just like the whole Hillary's emails thing. There's nothing there. Russia really did interfere in the 2016 election to help Trump win and Trump really did welcome, encourage and expect to benefit from that interference. Nothing we have found out since the Mueller Report has changed any of his findings. In fact, what we have found out since the Mueller Report only reinforces his findings. If you want to talk about treason, lets talk about Trump attempting to overthrow the government because he couldn't handle that he lost an election. And if you want to talk about brain washed, lets talk about the Trump cult still convinced that the 2020 election was stolen despite there still being no evidence for it. Like I said, take your conspiracy theories elsewhere.
@@mattjacks0n83 the only moron in this chat is you. You say the Russia Hoax has been debunked, yet you offer ZERO evidence. Why, because Don Lemon says so? That’s rich! It happened. Hillary Clinton’s campaign played dirty and broke the law in an attempt to win the Presidency. It would not surprise me in the least if Obama was the head of the snake, we’ll just have to see where it leads. Here is a first sign indicator, the White House has stopped answering questions about the investigation. Something they were happy to do when evidence against the Democratic Party was in the shadows. Liberal media has gone quiet on the issue, you think that’s because it is a non story, or do you think they know they are complicit in covering up for the Democratic Party? It’s time to wake up.
Lmfao I love watching all the bone spur cronies turning on him.... even the corrupt ones are suddenly developing morality. Guess they're seeing writing on the wall.
Never heard of such a thing from an accounting firm… They were cool with helping trump before. Now because he’s likely going to be charged with high crimes, they want to distance themselves. 🤣
If the financial statememts are audited, the audit firm is also responsible if they stated that the financial statememts present fairly the financial position and cash flows of the company
An opposing party and unelected government officials literally spied on a sitting president, and THIS is the story they want to talk about?!!!? MADNESS....
This is a big deal. When you lose the money then you're lost. And accounting firms don't leave just because of some bad press. They leave because they believe they'll be implicated in _criminal_ problems. They know Trump's goose is cooked and they're trying to cut ties with him before it's too late.
@@arraymeditations4039 The accounting firm dropped Trump, that is undeniable fact. Regardless of what you believe, Trump losing an accounting firm hurts him and it's not something he can recover from easily, if at all. So this isn't a good look from Trump, regardless if you feel he is innocent or guilty. And apparently more and more Republicans in congress feel the same way, meaning his influence is beginning to wane and that hurts him in both the long and short term. Besides, if you really felt that what is being reported is a lie you wouldn't feel the need to comment on it.
@@andrewowens4421 Which means exactly nothing. Trump derangement syndrome is widespread. Further, the WHY they dropped him is more important and we will likely n ever know the truth. Trump isn't easy to work for as I understand. But.. Russia hoax perpetrated by Clinton, the DNC and fake news stations is >>>>>>> some accounting firm dropping Trump. He's been lied about for 5 years and people still trying to put dirt on him and getting it to stick. Some people be like.. yeah but this time it's true!
Trump since 2016-"I can't release my taxes because I'm being audited." SDNY-"We have your taxes and they show you've been a liar, a fraud and a thief your whole life."
Could this give rise to companies suing Trump Org and/or Mazars if they did business with Trump on the basis of such accounting statements, which Mazars are now saying were not correct?
Those companies may have ALREADY tried suing, gave up...and now OTHERS are probably suing. I remember reading when he was still in office, there were 90 lawsuits pending against him and/or his businesses. He might well be the MOST sued person in history.
@Rosco Rosco Oh let them whine about Durham on the days they're not screeching about Hillary's laptop or Hunter's emails. Or whatever. Seriously, they're the kind of fruitcakes for whom life would be boring without the World Daily News. They're entertainment fodder.
Oh do tell ladies ... you know these statements you make ..how? ...do you personally know these people?? 🤣🤣🤣 ...you ladies need to pray, JESUS is coming because of people like these ....evil thru n thru...
He should have been in jail long before running for Pres. Would have saved the country from enormous suffering, and most likely the lives of many millions. Corruption at his scale for so long that was ignored is a very damning symptom of our society. That we actually put him in the WH is incomprehensible.
I'd guess that in the small print, there would be a disclaimer to say that they relied on the Trump-sworn financials. Now that everyone can see that the Toilet Don is a compulsive liar, conman and poser, they fear for their reputation.
The Trump Moscow Tower deal should have been a red flag from the start. The IRA and Mitch McConnell have also been enjoying their bonus pay and budget boost in rubles.
An accountant is responsible for the integrity and accuracy of the company's financial statements, even if an error or misstatement was made by others in the organization...End quote ....
That doesn't let Trump off the hook because the client provides certain information to their accountant that the financial statements are then based upon. If that information turns out to be lies (which is what it appears has just happened), then those financial statements are completely worthless. Who will want to do business with the Trump Organization now? Just the Russians I suspect! 😂
Disagree------ what if the Trump ORG operates using 2 sets of books? The CFO normally is responsible for the figures given to an accounting firm just like you are responsible for the $$$on your 1040 form not the preparer thats why you are required to sign it
God bless you but you are wrong!. From the IRS website, The IRS doesn't care if your accountant made a mistake. It's your tax return, so it's your responsibility. Even though you hired an accountant, you are liable to the IRS for any mistake. So, if the IRS adjusts your tax liability and say you owe more money, it'll be you who has to pay, not your accountant.
@@eviliswhereevilthinks9617 If your tax preparer makes a legitimate mistake you will have to file an amended return through your preparer yes you are liable for any difference in taxes you may owe but if any penalties are charged to you I believe the preparer is then responsible??
@joe dough nah im a free thinker but trump is not gonna be president again hes just grifting bud you give you're credit card he needs it for tax reasons :)
We need to see the actual Mazar letter. It is concerning that Mazar's mentions "not material" "errors or misstatements" because that is accounting speak for it is not that important or that significant. By way of an example, in a multi billion dollar company, a 20 million dollar error is a rounding mistake and not material or significant out of billions. So while 20 million is plenty to you or me, it is not significant when talking about billions. Strange, but true in accounting speak.
In the statement from _William J. Kelly_ of MAZARS it states, “We also believe that due to prior tax payments, there was an overpayment of taxes[.]” The wonderful thing about HD video is that you can pause and read the statement yourself without any spin from the news source. Edit: Fixed an error regarding the sender.
No, that's not "the statement of MAZARS" to the government. It was a letter to the Trump Org--and it hasn't nothing to do with the issue here which is whether accounting documents were used falsely to defraud lenders...You're the one who's "spinning," actually.
@@KingoftheJuice18 Hi, thanks for the input. I edited my post to the correct name. How exactly did Trump defraud the lenders? Did his corporation intentionally take out loans they had no intention to repay? Is it something else? Please enlighten me. Have you studied business or real estate? Do you know what the accepted practices are? Are you an investor yourself? Can you show me where I suggested the quoted text was directed at the US government? Thanks!
@@sittingstill3578 he allegedly defrauded lenders by overstating the value of properties while understating it to the IRS. The discrepancies are what sparked the investigation - at least one number has to be false, so he either cheated the lenders or the IRS. Both cant be right and Mazar seems to agree, otherwise they could not be of the opinion that the data they were provided by trump org was "unreliable". Assuming he - at one point - paid at least the correct amount of taxes does not necessarily cover the entire period in question to begin with and it bolsters the claim that he lied to lenders, i.e. defrauded them. And as a side note, if you were to lie to the IRS in one out of 10 years, you would still not be off the hook for that one year even if you net overpaid taxes. If intent can be proven, its a crime. The investigation is running its course and if there is something to the allegations, there will be an indictment.
@@Ganiscol The overpayment of taxes would be in regard to the quarterly taxes of the Trump Organization, I’m not sure what this refers to exactly but I assume it’s shorthand for one or more of the companies owned or run by Trump and his family. This presentation seems to be lacking a ton of relevant data about not only what is being investigated but why. I get the impression reading comments and in our communication on this thread that none of those fighting against him know what they’re talking about.
@@colinsacks8200.... Somehow I cannot see Weisselberg ( or anyone else with a brain) standing by Trump now.. Best advice would be make a deal while they can....
Mazar’s USA asked Donnie for some information for tax purposes but he said he could offer it up as he was under audit…then he flushed the required documents like 10 or 15 times…. We need to call the Gazpacho Police here…
@@michaelbray109 after 10 minutes could not think of a food related privy counsel pun that you would get. that was Oz's highest court until 1986, we only changed because some SOB appealed from our High Court to them and then they got the ruling wrong for like the 5th time in a row, we had been going for decades just ignoring them saying OH THIS case is an exception to that rule, like the other 14,789 exceptional cases we had since the privy counsel made a mistake in law. No judges on the privy counsel its Lords, so of course we ignored them as much as we could, turns out it was a lot. But after the 6th time they got it wrong we had to get off our arses and change it.
The curious thing would be what the internal communications were in the accounting firm. What were the staff saying about the creative ways that the Trump Organization accounts were reading, and did anyone think to question what they were seeing and hearing? The other thing is - If the company was aware that there were some illegalities in the books, don't they have a duty to report it? They can't just shut their eyes to what they're seeing and pretend they saw nothing.
@@victors8465 Stating that the records are unreliable is how that accounting firm is TRYING to get out of being prosecuted for aiding and abetting fraud. Someone high up in that firm took bribes or was blackmailed into helping Dumpy Donny Trumpy commit fraud. Look to see who was recently "let go" from the firm - perhaps with a golden parachute and an NDA - for the culprit.
@@onlyyou725 Actually yes, I have checked into the Durham probe and I found, just as most experts have found, that it not only violates the constitutional clause against politically motivated investigations, but it is vague enough to be useful as politically motivated fodder for propaganda outlets associated with Rupert Murdoch. This include the Fox propaganda outlets. John Durham is likely one of those men who are dangling on the chain of blackmail by Trumpty Dumpty, probably as a result of his association with Jeffrey Epstein. There have been three indictments filed. One got probation, and that was likely a result of Durham promising them probation if they would lie for him. Two others, Sussman and Danchenko, have yet to stand trial but both have plead not guilty to charges. What were they charged with? Lying to the FBI about the identity or status of people from whom they claimed to have gotten information, but NOT ABOUT THE INFORMATION ITSELF! So, in other words, if they forget the proper spelling or pronunciation of a name and used what they remembered incorrectly when they spoke to the FBI about things regarding the Trump Organization and Russia, then THAT is what Durham has charged them with. He has NOT charged them with lying about the information, however! So your Durham report is not what you think it is. It is vague, empty, and in no way manages to throw enough logical questions about the Mueller investigation to make that nest egg of Trump's crimes go away. Remember, Mueller did not exonerate Trumpty Dumpty... he just was not in a position to charge him with anything since Trumpty was the president. And only Congress can indict the President. Which they did. It's called impeachment. Then Moscow Mitch slid and slithered his way around having to have an actual trial of Dumpy Donny, thus saving his hide from conviction. Dumpy Donny owes Moscow Mitch a big favor... which he will never repay, because he doesn't pay any of his debts.
What took the accounting firm so long???? I bet you they already knew this a long time ago... They thought tagging along with him would gain them more customers... NOT! Better get out while you can!
Can someone tell me why " Trump's LONG-TIME ACCOUNTING FIRM " has suddenly decided to drop him? It's not likely he developed his shady business practices in the last year or 2. This is just like all those people who were " former Trump aides " who are now/suddenly developing consciences...at the same time they are " suddenly " publishing tell all books.
Stating that the records are unreliable is how that accounting firm is TRYING to get out of being prosecuted for aiding and abetting fraud. Someone high up in that firm took bribes or was blackmailed into helping Dumpy Donny Trumpy commit fraud. Look to see who was recently "let go" from the firm - perhaps with a golden parachute and an NDA - for the culprit.
This reminds me of the ( accounting firm ) that certified ( Enron ) Banks depend on those docs. Can the lending institutions that depended on these docs. Sue the accounting firm.
Partly because of the American (shared only with Eritrea) tax law, leave was granted by The Court of Session in Edinburgh 🏴 to seek an Unexplained Wealth Order (MacMafia order) reasons including, though not limited to, different tax returns on the same properties, to different National tax authorities. Ten years plus of no trump business in Scotland declaring a profit. And My personal favourite, approaching a bank, the vendor, to buy an hotel for, if memory serves, £26 mill on condition that the bank loaned £36 mill. Apparently trump and mob were most upset when the bank declined the offer.
As an accountant with a Master of Science in Accounting, I can definitely state that this is a load of cr@p from this accounting firm. They did the financial statements to the best of their ability over 10 years ago. You can't just go back and say, "oh I have changed my mind." what twats.
Stating that the records are unreliable is how that accounting firm is TRYING to get out of being prosecuted for aiding and abetting fraud. Someone high up in that firm took bribes or was blackmailed into helping Dumpy Donny Trumpy commit fraud. Look to see who was recently "let go" from the firm - perhaps with a golden parachute and an NDA - for the culprit.
It's now tax season. I wonder what accounting firm could be convinced to do Trump's taxes now given the fact that Trump's previous accounting firm dumped him?
Hundred 's of millions in tax evasion from one Mazars client, and they work'n 90 countries. The Ireland, South African, and Chinese firms are quite interesting.
Trump had a victorious weekend. I'm not a Trump fan. I don't want him to run, but MSNBC is a joke. They're distracting you from the biggest campaign scandal since Watergate.
@joe dough In truth, it's only about a third of voting adults who are still trumpublican cultists. And that number is shrinking, as those who have any sanity left are attaching their sights to other republicans. It takes a serious amount of insanity to continue to be a trumpublican cultist after ALL that has happened. Or, one might be a paid troll. Which are you, Joe?
Hahaha, you people have been saying that for 6 years, and guess what? Nah, I'll let you keep believing the same tired crap that flows from these "News" outlets..LOL
@Phuc Hong the amount of money Trump spends on lawyers says everything. In the end, they got Al Capone on tax evasion, despite all the evidence he was (like Trump) guilty of innumerable crimes.
@@drewpknutz1410 Trump's lawyers had legal cases against the IRS to keep them from divulging any information until after the election, at which point he simply ordered them not to and they - because they had to - obeyed. He was the HEAD of our GOVERNMENT, and thus he was immune to any prosecution except that of the Congress! And Moscow Mitch McConnell, who has been a Russian asset for many years, shielded him from that rightful prosecution. Now, he is no longer President and no longer immune from prosecution. Now the IRS can act, but they are cooperating with other prosecutors to build the various cases air tight. You start with the unpaid traffic tickets and work your way up to the tax evasion and perjury and RICO statutes. Oh, and the TREASON.
@@drewpknutz1410 Sure Jan, innumerable reputable international and US public and independent news agencies, Vs a handful of "news" generated by immoral billionaire Murdoch's Fox, NY Post etc and whack-a-mole Fox far-reich wannabes. Whatever happened to Hunter's laptop? 😅🤣😂
45 has been printing money in his head for years…and these guys went with that figure…
Whenever it is a rich person its always hard to prove they had intent, but that never seems to be the case for regular folk. When we do something like this, they don't ask what your intent was, even if you made a mistake, the law will just treat you like you knew what you are doing.
We live in an aristocracy!
Exactly. Ignorance of the law not being an excuse seems to only apply to regular folk.
hang em all!,,,they are req citizens now,,,,,and crooks
So true!
No one gets paid by a poor person
@@peltpeltington9991 Biden / Justin Castro / AOC / Omar / every Democrat Governor whose cities due under crime . Bring back the MAN!!! trump !!!
Biden is seriously an Ill 😷 man , whose cognitive abilities decline in front of us !!!! . Harris is a low IQ, affirmative action hire as VP.
Please tell me more people voted for those two propeller heads over a true leader like Trump
Scratch a liberal - find a fascist .
I'm not a businessman, but I'm pretty sure that when your accountants duck and run on you, that's not good.
Probably not good for them either.
How about Bidens mafia. Hunter crack head is the smartest person in the room, By Brandon
Wren, you are a master of the understatement.
It means SDNY is very hot on the trail of something, and the heat just got to be too much for Mazar. They're not going to get out of this without some punishment. This is just a move on their part to lessen the damage.
@@utahnative9458 what about them? Does this excuse makes the clown less criminal?
Just a friendly reminder: ANY other person would ALREADY be in Prison. End the protections of wealth and status. One Law for all.
Trump has been crying out for equal justice for the 1/6 traitors/cowards. I'm all for Trump getting his equal justice. Like you said, "ANY other person would already be in prison", is true. Lock that Orange Traitor UP!
I agree. However in this case before we pull the trigger on Trump we have to make sure it is 200 percent air tight. There is no way people they want to let this dude off on a technicalities.
Yea, you just described Hillary perfectly
@@RMphan R U Phlem, you deflect nicely, but Trump is as guilty, if not more than Hillary!
@@peterraleigh9406 More and in sooo many more ways.
That accounting firm was not really auditing the statements for 10 years. They are trying to cover their behinds, every year they said the statements were accurate. Apparently, it was another lie.
Trump could shoot your moms on the street, and you'd still protect and follow him. Your god Trump can do no wrong. Jeez man.
Exactly. They were happy to collect a fee to produce a bull spit financial statement but if someone with the ability to enforce wants to look at it closely then they don’t want to take any responsibility. That’s the sort of firm that Trump would want, for sure.
What makes you think that they were auditing the Trump Organisation? I'd assume that they were only tasked with submitting financial statements to the relevant authorities based on what sworn information was provided by the Trumps.
@@lesmowhomever174 😬
@@lesmowhomever174 you’re the ones obsessed with the dude, can’t even focus on the current dementia in chief. All you have is a boogeyman.
If Trump had been forced to reveal his taxes, like "POTENTIAL" Presidental Candidates has always done, WE wouldn't be in the NIGHTMARE we're living TODAY!!!
Agreed 1000%! Numbers are numbers and if the IRS auditors can count why isn't it over?
Previous presidential candidates revealed their tax returns as a COURTESY, their is no law, no regulations regarding this. The fact that Trump wouldn't do that should have been a red flag, not a big flag, but still. As I have said many times: PBS ran a documentary TWICE before election day 2016 that did a pretty good laying out EVERYTHING wrong with Trump. The folks that needed to see it, don't watch PBS. On CZcams look for a video titled Decision 2016...or something like that (I forget the exact title). And it also includes a generous amount about Hillary, so it's not one sided.
The IRS has and has always had his tax statements. The most ruthless, brutal, sadistic agency in all of government hasn't done something after all these years? Why? Don't think for a moment they haven't looked. Because there wasn't something? To believe otherwise is more than stupid it's Bama'votin stupid.
It should be required when you run for President, and or Senate that you have to show your taxes.
How bad is Trumpstink?
No real accountant can tell bad 🤣
The funny twist is, that trump tries to spin this into "this proves everything is fine and the investigation is moot" - its beyond pathetic 😂
Yeah it really is Twilight Zone stuff.
How can anyone after listening to Trump for five minutes, believe anything he says, much less for 10 years?
I've never made it five minutes...
Says the side that still believes Jussie Smolett
John Durham report, they spied on the president and got caught
Proof, that's how.
@@darbyogill5771 No it didn't. Learn to think for yourself.
I hope Mazars will be standing in line for justice also. I realize how difficult it is to prove intent, however, Mazars had all the information from the beginning. It doesn't matter whether the info provided by Trump and Co. was true or not, the accountants had the numbers that were used to do tax returns. It's well known and documented that Trump inflated and deflated assets, and this would have been shown on tax returns. At some point, the numbers given to Mazars would conflict with earlier numbers, and they had a duty THEN to investigate and attempt to reconcile the numbers. They didn't. They waited until the heat was turned up full blast and no doubt they are feeling it and THEN made the decision to try to extricate themselves. You're a day late and a dollar short, Mazars. Your reputation has a huge brown (or orange) stain on it, and I would be seriously surprised if at least some of your people are not going to be fitted for jumpsuits. Couldn't happen to a finer bunch of folks.
Their only interest was, and still is, to cover their own arses and make money.
Margie Large-O Mussolini
Bwahaha it's standard practice to do what Trump did..If they go after Trump for it they will have to go after every real estate banker too but oh yeah , it's not about financial crime IT'S ABOUT GOING AFTER POLITICAL OPPONENTS PLAIN AND SIMPLE !
@@toobmaniac If you really believe that about other businesses, you should be happy to see Trump under indictment. I don't think it's true, but if it is, it better to find out sooner than later. I'll bet you're one of the people who chanted "lock her up" about Hillary Clinton, hypocrite.
I think they could be liable for prosecution. If so, they turn on Trump to get immunity.
@@toobmaniac why is everything politics? Its a shame you guys always attribute everything to politics, just the same way some people tie everything to racism. How do you expect the most powerful man in the world not have impeccable characters. Whoever still supports this guy lacks morals, principles and integrity. Above all, they put their political party first before this great country
So after 10 years, this accounting firm is either criminally incompetent or a criminal conspirator
Don't forget the person reporting false information to them is also accountable.
That's what I thought too .
Is this what these accounting firms call "stated income" when they do someone's financials? So Donald Trump was allowed to state the value of his assets without these firms verifying the veracity of his statements? I say prosecute the accounting firm as well.
~~~ fly-by-night taking a grifters word for it~ no wonder Mars is ditching the grifter~ because they’re probably liable for just what you’re saying and then the government paid Trump maybe Mars is gonna pay the government back..?..!..🤷♂️
Trump like all clients gives the firm their financial information, believing it is accurate and true, it is not their job to hope it is accurate and true...Trump is responsible for his fake documentation.
No CPA or accounting firm goes to the expense of researching and investigating every client. They'd be bankrupt if they did.
They basically came out and admitted, The Trump Org had been lying to them, filing fake financial documents from 2011, to 2021. They dropped the Trump org, claiming they can no longer trust any of the documents coming from that Org.
They only performed an internal investigation into Trump, after Trump was named in 4 separate Grand Juries for bank fraud, money laundering, and tax evasion. This prompted the internal investigation which discovered the fake financial documents and prompted the accounting firm the fire the Trump org.
To be fair, it is likely they knew Trump fudged the numbers and kept him as a client anyway, but once Trump became a defendant in multiple cases, they had to drop him as a client, or be pulled into the same legal discoveries and defense.
@@jeremybackup5758 ~ Second part of your statement is what I was stating~ The red flags of the Trump organization were flying the accounting firm was ditching him..?..!..🤷♂️ ps. Jumping ship~ they just couldn’t sail any more adventures..! 🏌️♂️
if it’s true that their documents are incorrect, couldn’t companies that used the information from them sue them?
Yes, assuming they have been certified as a true and fair view. However, technically speaking, the materiality principle would require further testing to determine the extent of the "errors". Normally if profits or assets are mis-reported by 5% to 10% then that would be considered material.
@@fincorrigan7139 Theres ZERO chance that this disgusting liar only mis-reported his financials by only 5-10% . Its more likely thats its in the 500-1000% range 🤣🤣😂😂. We all remember the 5 dead voters that he claimed was 5000 so my range is absolutly realistic
Naw- it’s a compilation. Read a standard compilation report, it specifically says ‘we were not required to perform procedures to verify the accuracy or completeness of information provided by management’. However, if information becomes available where you know the financials to be false- you need to do what Mazars did.
They can and I expect several will.
They shouldn't be allowed to take back financial statements they knew were shady. They were complicit in his scam. They should be prosecuted.
The criminal Trump family provided the fraudulent documents and lied to their own accountants.
No report on Durham's bombshell report and court filling about "Trump Russia collusion?" C'mon fake news---
The more times you idiots repeat 'fake news', the more foolish you sound...
@@We_Finally_Beat_Medicare their was no bombshell in that report. It's mostly speculation and possibilities.
@@We_Finally_Beat_Medicare No report of Faux Fox "News" about the 15--FIFTEEN boxes of NATIONAL DOCS that he STOLE & took to Mar a Lardo.
trump + national docs====
EAT them
TEAR them up
BURN them
FLUSH them--bc he's mentally 2
STEAL Them & take them to Mar a Lardo
As though a "reputable accounting firm" took a decade to realize that the numbers made no sense. Nice CYA letter, though.
EXACTLY .....
This sound too fishy. People are everywhere trying to blame trump for something and nothing shown with proves.
When they found truth with the last election, they didn't approve those. Just think how hard they had tried to put away Trump.
I think they found who was managing Trump account, they found a way to despise him and make it look legit and now say a decade later we found something. Uh hmm. Mind blown. Arrest Biden and Pelosi for inside trade and accepting funds that is Federal sentence. Not some tax invasion when a person that has businesses and loop hole made for business mens and women.
I call BS on this. Not trying to defend all in on Trump, this sound fishy is all I am saying. Not Trump but a decade record of nothing to now this. Smh.
@@DSPNWtoCali your prophet never stop to lied, deceived, cheated everybody. He will answer in his grave
Sounds like you don't "trust" MSDNC! That's a no no! Between MSDNC and SNOPES I get some of my "best" information! I listen to what they say... and then I reverse the meaning! Works 99% of the time! The next few months will be "interesting". General ROM L anyone?
@@ridwanbanta8356 some people just stuck on STUPID
Accounting firm, until 2020: Yawn here's your tax return. Keep stealing money.
Accounting firm, under NYS investigation: OMG you are radioactive go away.
I know right!
Gee, took 10 years for them to get the balls?
They FINALLY read the writing on the wall, he's going down and they're trying to distance themselves from him.
Trump is nothing more than a glorified front for the NY mob for decades, so there is an element of danger to yourself and your family if you threaten the well oiled machine that launders tens of millions of dollars for you every year.
Mazar you've got some splaining to do. Now you dump him. Where was your new found honesty for all these years?
They can say they took his word but now they found out He lied.(They knew)
This means that SDNY is moving aggressively behind the scenes .. or under the surface. Mazar just jumped out of the pool. There's blood in the water and they don't want to be the next meal.
It should be explaining not splaining
@@edgardogonzalez916 splaining is a joke from an old comedy series, I love lucy.
@@sarahgarner5425 mmmm stand corrected
The rats continue to jump off the sinking ship
The name of the ship is SS Trumptanic 😄
Unreliable is accountant speak for fraudulent. It's pretty bad when your accounting firm confirms you're committing fraud.
They came after me cause I forgot to change my holdings one yr, when I filed I owed, they threatened me with garnishment for less than 700 bucks, SMH
Author Anderson firm went to prison for less willfully negligent accounting
Arthur Anderson. In Oz they had some of the most attractive auditors I have ever seen. A Cute smile works wonders when your dealing with large sums of money.
The firm was indicted years ago and collapsed. Now we have to see what happens to Mazars. This is not good but I don’t think their business is at risk. They have thrown it back to the Trump Organization who now has to find some way to defend against fraud charges.
Enron was not less negligent
It is Arthur not Author
God bless but you’re wrong. Trumps firm did not destroy evidence. Andersen was convicted of obstruction of justice for shredding documents related to its audit of Enron, resulting in what infamously became known as the Enron scandal. ... Big-name accounting scandals linked to Arthur Andersen went on to include Waste Management, Sunbeam, and WorldCom all crooks.
Mazars would be reminded what the Former acct firm, Arthur Anderson did for Bernie Madoff. They've got a lot more explaining to do with this inconvenient client.
Criminal trump belongs in prison
I totally agree.
Arthus Andersen went bankrupt because they obstructed Justice in the Enron case (they were Enron's accounting firm and shredded over 1 ton of documents).
Madoff didn't use an accounting firm.
I don't think Mazars is the firm which audited Trump's company. Mazars are the accountants.
The criminal Trump family are definitely guilty but Mazars might get wrapped up in the Trumps crime spree as well.
Wait... wouldn't the accounting firm be liable for making sure that the statements were backed by income and expenses??🤔
EXACTLY. It's seems like they would be totally liable
No, because the communists that run our shadow government have demanded they bend the knee, and they've complied.
They don’t provide the numbers, they just crunch them.
@@thisisaname5589 Define Communism. Clue, it doesn't mean universal arsehole.
I get the feeling that they are trying to cover themselves here rather than go down with the ship.
So how many things does this man have to be guilty of before eventually he actually has to answer for himself ... I mean it appears to me it takes an ocean of wrong to get a rich or influential person in any kind of trouble ... Me ... I fart in an elevator by a DA I'm going to prison for assault on an official lol
Funny dude
That’s the thing, he won’t. We need to stop believing he will, because he won’t. The reason why he and many other crooks who have corrupted America since day one is because of capitalism. It is what is protecting them and they know it. Believe it or not, it’s the truth.
@@antisocialal4799 Crooks? Oh you mean the Clintons..I agree
A fart can be considered a chemical weapon and thus you could be taken behind bars.
It kinda sounds like John Gotti the Teflon Don. Trump has been leading of life of crime for so many years due to his use of other individuals that will always keep him at arms length from the actual crime. I think they are systematically going after his enablers to finally get to him. Very slow process, as this guy has always acted with a fall guy in mind.
He lied, how am I not surprised.
His whole life is a lie.
You think people will start falling for Trump's lies. Sadly they'll be people will always fall for it😔
WHO CARES? His lying never affected me or anybody I know. You know what DOES affect me? Gas prices, food prices, runaway inflation, a porous southern border...etc. He can lie all he wants as long as he can keep the country from imploding.
@@drewpknutz1410 When rich people like Trump commit tax fraud, all other taxpayers including you have to pay more taxes to make up the tax revenue shortfall, so it does affect you. Also, if we can't trust Trump to follow the law in his personal life, how can we trust him to follow the law as a president? Trump can only be relied upon to do what's best for him, even at the expense of the country. Also, inflation is a problem that started before Biden took office, with the money printing starting with COVID. I'm not defending Biden since he's also to blame, but not solely to blame.
@@jayyyzeee6409
That's called Denial my child
truth was told -clinton campaign spied on his office then continued as President
Ok, so NOW they're dumping
Him? They need to investigate all of Trumps shady deals had with this company!
Yes, because this firm went along with it, innocently, for YEARS. They knew.
So they KNEW!
@@stevejette2329 given the timing of their dumping, it would be impossible for them NOT to know. So, yeah they need to have a visit from the IRS.
Hillary needs to be investigated
The accounting firm is dumping him. Like it took forever for pur government to put away Al Capone. It sl lomg because they had to start from the very bottom and work tjeir way up. The Party of Trump is being treated like an organization not just a political party. Which that alone adds even more hoops, set on fire, for our justice system to jump through.
Why would anyone want to wash their hands from the “worlds greatest businessman”
Trump stated that he was a tax expert. So, now he’ll start his own accounting firm! 🙈😳
Will he name it "Truth Accounting Corporation" ? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
He was an expert on everything. Just ask him if he is. An expert like nobody has ever seen. Many people are saying. Believe me.
I’m waiting to see Ivanka in an orange 🍊 jumpsuit! She’ll look fabulous!
The company should turn all these documents over to the NYAG - LOCK HIM UP - LOCK HIM UP - along with his whole crime family.
Well not Baron....
Mazars has already turned Trump's accounts over to New York's AG.
maga trump 2024
If only....there's only been about 300 different attempts to catch the man doing something...and every single one has failed. You are so blinded by Trump that you are literally ignoring the collapse of your country....actually I take that back. You aren't ignoring it. It's exactly what you want. Death to America huh?
Riiight buddy… they have nothing tho
All loans are now invalid and will be called immediately
Repossess it all!!!!!!!!!
I'd almost rather see him broke than in prison, if I had to choose. But, it appears, he might get both.
@@nj-1008 honestly being broke would be more of a punishment for this conmam
OMG great point! This should precipitate the swift collapse of the Trump empire! The banks will scramble to get their money back, because declaration of bankruptcy will be forced, and they will be lucky to collect pennies for dollars.
Hopefully the public won’t have to pay for the banks incompetence. Again.
Interesting point indeed!!! This is a man whose ego would eat him alive if he had to truly experience poverty.
Mazsrs said "We're not getting entangled in your trump bullsh!t." Here's your tax returns and exit stage left.
The Government listened to him.
How about doing some actual reporting, like the revelations in the Durham Investigation?
After 90 failed attempts they think they are STILL on to something.
@Benjamin Valenzuela go and watch Fox if you want conspiracy theories… 😂
@@mattjacks0n83 what happened was treasonous, but you don’t even blink an eye. Do you understand that your party fabricated a story and spied on a sitting President? Then liberal media, which is nothing more than the propaganda wing of the DNC, ran this fabricated story for almost 3 years. Do you not grasp the magnitude of the situation? Or are you just so brainwashed that you think this sorta behavior is warranted?
@@benjaminvalenzuela3948 The whole spygate story is nonsense and has been debunked over and over again, and yet morons like you still continue to believe it, probably because Fox News continues to push it. It's just like the whole Hillary's emails thing. There's nothing there.
Russia really did interfere in the 2016 election to help Trump win and Trump really did welcome, encourage and expect to benefit from that interference. Nothing we have found out since the Mueller Report has changed any of his findings. In fact, what we have found out since the Mueller Report only reinforces his findings.
If you want to talk about treason, lets talk about Trump attempting to overthrow the government because he couldn't handle that he lost an election. And if you want to talk about brain washed, lets talk about the Trump cult still convinced that the 2020 election was stolen despite there still being no evidence for it. Like I said, take your conspiracy theories elsewhere.
@@mattjacks0n83 the only moron in this chat is you. You say the Russia Hoax has been debunked, yet you offer ZERO evidence. Why, because Don Lemon says so? That’s rich! It happened. Hillary Clinton’s campaign played dirty and broke the law in an attempt to win the Presidency. It would not surprise me in the least if Obama was the head of the snake, we’ll just have to see where it leads. Here is a first sign indicator, the White House has stopped answering questions about the investigation. Something they were happy to do when evidence against the Democratic Party was in the shadows. Liberal media has gone quiet on the issue, you think that’s because it is a non story, or do you think they know they are complicit in covering up for the Democratic Party? It’s time to wake up.
Sounds like someone thought they might have some legal exposure and decided to right the ship.
........or jump the ship.
So his financial statements are as reliable as his golf score cards, his acumen tests, his medical report, his bill payments and his grasp on reality.
And as rock solid as his medical reason for bone spurs to avoid the draft!
We are talking about the guy who had fake framed Time covers in his office for decades, President Sharpie! 🤣
Shouldn't be long before Baby Cheesus' cultists and foreign trolls start projecting all this onto Joe Biden. 😆
Oh C'mon! You know he's only 239lbs!!
💯
Lmfao I love watching all the bone spur cronies turning on him.... even the corrupt ones are suddenly developing morality. Guess they're seeing writing on the wall.
Exactly !
Never heard of such a thing from an accounting firm… They were cool with helping trump before. Now because he’s likely going to be charged with high crimes, they want to distance themselves. 🤣
Honey that wld b their best bet
Wouldn't you do the same?
The bottom line is as long as everyone is making money they seem to loose their grip on truth.
Or the ability to even care.
its all about the Income to the fools
@Pat Megroin Just ask killer Trump The Syria Killer
@Pat Megroin Wow. What a powerful retort. Did you spend all night thinking this one up, troll?
💯💯💯💯💯
I don't understand why they waited so long. On Nicole Wallace's show, a commentator said Eric pled the 5th 500 TIMES about this in various hearings!
Eric is upset at the New York AG and vows to go after her. Good luck!😀
If the financial statememts are audited, the audit firm is also responsible if they stated that the financial statememts present fairly the financial position and cash flows of the company
I understand
An opposing party and unelected government officials literally spied on a sitting president, and THIS is the story they want to talk about?!!!? MADNESS....
@@crforfreedom7407 no proof nothingburger
Lots more yacking, but I'm still not seeing the Trump family modeling this year's spring line of ORANGE haute couture.
It’s not gonna happen
They’re literally just trolling him
Trump and his family are never gonna be held accountable or go to jail or anything
And you won’t, he’d already be executed if they had ANYTHING on him.. 6 years and still NADA
This is a big deal. When you lose the money then you're lost. And accounting firms don't leave just because of some bad press. They leave because they believe they'll be implicated in _criminal_ problems. They know Trump's goose is cooked and they're trying to cut ties with him before it's too late.
After the last five years of lies against Trump, you still buy into this stuff? You seem a bit slow to me.
@@arraymeditations4039 MSNBC viewers are very gullible and stupid
@@arraymeditations4039
The accounting firm dropped Trump, that is undeniable fact. Regardless of what you believe, Trump losing an accounting firm hurts him and it's not something he can recover from easily, if at all. So this isn't a good look from Trump, regardless if you feel he is innocent or guilty. And apparently more and more Republicans in congress feel the same way, meaning his influence is beginning to wane and that hurts him in both the long and short term. Besides, if you really felt that what is being reported is a lie you wouldn't feel the need to comment on it.
@@andrewowens4421 Which means exactly nothing. Trump derangement syndrome is widespread. Further, the WHY they dropped him is more important and we will likely n ever know the truth. Trump isn't easy to work for as I understand. But.. Russia hoax perpetrated by Clinton, the DNC and fake news stations is >>>>>>> some accounting firm dropping Trump. He's been lied about for 5 years and people still trying to put dirt on him and getting it to stick. Some people be like.. yeah but this time it's true!
Trump since 2016-"I can't release my taxes because I'm being audited."
SDNY-"We have your taxes and they show you've been a liar, a fraud and a thief your whole life."
Drumpf is still God to absolute and complete idiots!
This is his un-doing. They are saying: "We will tell you everything you need to know. Just don't send us to prison".
IF BIENG STUPID HURT..... YOU'D BE IN THE ER 24/7
Might have to sell a building for the hush money on this one.
@@Dealete420 🙃Your Big, Orange, God is going in the trash!🙂
Could this give rise to companies suing Trump Org and/or Mazars if they did business with Trump on the basis of such accounting statements, which Mazars are now saying were not correct?
I certainly hope so!
Those companies may have ALREADY tried suing, gave up...and now OTHERS are probably suing. I remember reading when he was still in office, there were 90 lawsuits pending against him and/or his businesses. He might well be the MOST sued person in history.
Yes
Oh yes. Peace y'all
@@elainedaprano9130 I agree. He has to be the most sued person. And probably also sued others the most. It's the only thing he does BIGLY.
I LOVE Joyce Vance! Her ability to phrase answers is unmatched. Not an "Um" in sight! Just smooth words. She's my hero!
We like her also glad she was on
Funny @April😄😄😄😄😄💜
Trying to distance theirselves from a career criminal as his career is about to experience a violent crash.
Everyone is running for cover! They can see trouble coming. 😂 😂 😂
Like roaches when the light comes on. Even Moscow Mitch is trying to distance himself from Trump.😀😀😀
@@rickygranderson9625 DURHAM
Yep, have you seen the Durham Report lately. Federal charges have been made.
@Rosco Rosco Oh let them whine about Durham on the days they're not screeching about Hillary's laptop or Hunter's emails. Or whatever. Seriously, they're the kind of fruitcakes for whom life would be boring without the World Daily News. They're entertainment fodder.
This means SDNY is hot on the trail of something .. it means there's blood in the water and Mazar just got out to lessen the damages.
I just love Joyce Vance. She's always on point. Thanks Chris for your good, hard work and for having Joyce on your show.
Joyce Vance is not gonna ever tell us junk! I agree. You bet. Thank you for this reporting job Chris Hayes. Yup!
No doubt! She’s been on my radar since one of the Russian hearings. I was so impressed then and now. She’s straightforward, no BS.
Yes, Joyce is terrific! Super smart, articulate and, as you say, always on point. I love her too.
these people are lying to you.
Oh do tell ladies ... you know these statements you make ..how? ...do you personally know these people?? 🤣🤣🤣 ...you ladies need to pray, JESUS is coming because of people like these ....evil thru n thru...
He really should have pardoned “everyone I’ve ever done business with”.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
And he most likely would have gotten out of the backlash and “trial” if he did it. What a moron.
He should have been in jail long before running for Pres. Would have saved the country from enormous suffering, and most likely the lives of many millions. Corruption at his scale for so long that was ignored is a very damning symptom of our society. That we actually put him in the WH is incomprehensible.
Well said and true !
All the banks he did business with should be suing the accounting firm having relied on those statements for their lending decisions.
Why?
Except their not... wonder why? Fake News??
Good point!🎯🎯🎯
I'd guess that in the small print, there would be a disclaimer to say that they relied on the Trump-sworn financials. Now that everyone can see that the Toilet Don is a compulsive liar, conman and poser, they fear for their reputation.
@@RaquelSantos-hj1mq Because their signature is their bond. It is legally binding. It is the law. Capiche?
“We don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia.”
-- Eric Trump
Lmao... Sike.
U, IMO, are a liar!!!!
The Trump Moscow Tower deal should have been a red flag from the start. The IRA and Mitch McConnell have also been enjoying their bonus pay and budget boost in rubles.
I have that saved on video. Truth.
An accountant is responsible for the integrity and accuracy of the company's financial statements, even if an error or misstatement was made by others in the organization...End quote ....
That doesn't let Trump off the hook because the client provides certain information to their accountant that the financial statements are then based upon. If that information turns out to be lies (which is what it appears has just happened), then those financial statements are completely worthless. Who will want to do business with the Trump Organization now? Just the Russians I suspect! 😂
Disagree------ what if the Trump ORG operates using 2 sets of books? The CFO normally is responsible for the figures given to an accounting firm just like you are responsible for the $$$on your 1040 form not the preparer thats why you are required to sign it
God bless you but you are wrong!. From the IRS website, The IRS doesn't care if your accountant made a mistake. It's your tax return, so it's your responsibility. Even though you hired an accountant, you are liable to the IRS for any mistake. So, if the IRS adjusts your tax liability and say you owe more money, it'll be you who has to pay, not your accountant.
@@eviliswhereevilthinks9617 If your tax preparer makes a legitimate mistake you will have to file an amended return through your preparer yes you are liable for any difference in taxes you may owe but if any penalties are charged to you I believe the preparer is then responsible??
@@eviliswhereevilthinks9617 yes I agree
So, which high up Democrat operative threatened the accounting agency? Did they use the FBI or CIA this time or was it just a DNC operative?
'Not paying taxes makes me smart'
- Trump Presidential debates 2016
Not so smart now
🤣😆 .. that’s so revealing... thanks for the reminder 👍
It just makes him a smartass.
@@mackjrbell7828 and a scammer scondrul
@joe dough which wont be trump
@joe dough nah im a free thinker but trump is not gonna be president again hes just grifting bud you give you're credit card he needs it for tax reasons :)
Donald Trump’s accounting firm walked away from him like Ken Jeong and Robin Thicke walked away from the masked singer Rudy Colludy.
Hope everyone else follows suit.
as far as the name calling goes a lot of them are really unimaginative and dumb but rudy colludy always makes me giggle
If you think people as rich and influential as Trump using an individual accounting firm , you'd be naive.
I imagine this will end up proving the accounting firm is guilty of embezzlement.
The guy keeps falling but justice seems to never catch him up...how? Why are some people above the law?
This speaks volumes….
Now the question is who is going to be the scapegoat in the Trump organization. You know 45 won’t take ANY responsibility.
Don't worry. They'll soon run out of scapegoats.
We need to see the actual Mazar letter. It is concerning that Mazar's mentions "not material" "errors or misstatements" because that is accounting speak for it is not that important or that significant. By way of an example, in a multi billion dollar company, a 20 million dollar error is a rounding mistake and not material or significant out of billions. So while 20 million is plenty to you or me, it is not significant when talking about billions. Strange, but true in accounting speak.
When does Weisselberg go down for being involved with THIS whole mess? He's in enough trouble as it is!
@@coreyham3753 Not to argue with you, but why then would the firm say the records are “unreliable”?
Uh oh Weisselberg!
Trump won't mind being the poster boy for tax cheat of the year, as long as he gets his picture out there.
True and for $75 he will sign it for you with his magic marker!
Probably want to put many democrats up their first.
From the cover of Life to doing Life, Go Trump Go
Trump was right!! Lets Go Brandon!!
You jealous your face isnt out there??? Dann???
In the statement from _William J. Kelly_ of MAZARS it states, “We also believe that due to prior tax payments, there was an overpayment of taxes[.]” The wonderful thing about HD video is that you can pause and read the statement yourself without any spin from the news source.
Edit: Fixed an error regarding the sender.
No, that's not "the statement of MAZARS" to the government. It was a letter to the Trump Org--and it hasn't nothing to do with the issue here which is whether accounting documents were used falsely to defraud lenders...You're the one who's "spinning," actually.
@Sitting Still Alan Garten works for the Trump Org, not Mazars. You might want to get some new reading glasses 😂
@@KingoftheJuice18 Hi, thanks for the input. I edited my post to the correct name. How exactly did Trump defraud the lenders? Did his corporation intentionally take out loans they had no intention to repay? Is it something else? Please enlighten me. Have you studied business or real estate? Do you know what the accepted practices are? Are you an investor yourself?
Can you show me where I suggested the quoted text was directed at the US government? Thanks!
@@sittingstill3578 he allegedly defrauded lenders by overstating the value of properties while understating it to the IRS. The discrepancies are what sparked the investigation - at least one number has to be false, so he either cheated the lenders or the IRS. Both cant be right and Mazar seems to agree, otherwise they could not be of the opinion that the data they were provided by trump org was "unreliable". Assuming he - at one point - paid at least the correct amount of taxes does not necessarily cover the entire period in question to begin with and it bolsters the claim that he lied to lenders, i.e. defrauded them. And as a side note, if you were to lie to the IRS in one out of 10 years, you would still not be off the hook for that one year even if you net overpaid taxes. If intent can be proven, its a crime. The investigation is running its course and if there is something to the allegations, there will be an indictment.
@@Ganiscol The overpayment of taxes would be in regard to the quarterly taxes of the Trump Organization, I’m not sure what this refers to exactly but I assume it’s shorthand for one or more of the companies owned or run by Trump and his family. This presentation seems to be lacking a ton of relevant data about not only what is being investigated but why. I get the impression reading comments and in our communication on this thread that none of those fighting against him know what they’re talking about.
I'm still waiting for him to retire to Russia...
What financial institution will want their reputation tarnished by that stinker now?
Wouldn’t the financial firm actually prepare these statements?
It's the firms job to confirm.
Wouldn’t Trump actually sign these statements after they were prepared? Let’s try another blame game.
Based on the numbers Trump gives them.
Really, this is sad. Report some real news!
why don’t you report on durham?
Durham is a dud. There’s nothing to report 😂
Que the, "But but Durham!" Q crowd...
I guess Allen Weisselberg has flipped.......
Interesting hypothesis.
@@colinsacks8200.... Somehow I cannot see Weisselberg ( or anyone else with a brain) standing by Trump now.. Best advice would be make a deal while they can....
Cover the Durham report
Never trust a former president who wears Jim Bakker’s haircut and Tammy Faye’s makeup.
“I wish I knew how to quit you, trump”
I guess he should have paid them.
Lmfao, good one!
Any news about Hillary Clinton?
Did she do something that effects our lives?
@@thowl7065 Yup
@@Nick10101 Not within the last 8 years.
Hey let's talk about the Durham findings.
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How about flushing documents down the toilet. It took 15 flushes.
Mazar’s USA asked Donnie for some information for tax purposes but he said he could offer it up as he was under audit…then he flushed the required documents like 10 or 15 times….
We need to call the Gazpacho Police here…
cold soup is a crime.
@@julesmasseffectmusic tax fraud IS the cold soup of the legal system…..it might have to go right up to the Nacho Supreme Court…
@@michaelbray109 after 10 minutes could not think of a food related privy counsel pun that you would get.
that was Oz's highest court until 1986, we only changed because some SOB appealed from our High Court to them and then they got the ruling wrong for like the 5th time in a row, we had been going for decades just ignoring them saying OH THIS case is an exception to that rule, like the other 14,789 exceptional cases we had since the privy counsel made a mistake in law.
No judges on the privy counsel its Lords, so of course we ignored them as much as we could, turns out it was a lot. But after the 6th time they got it wrong we had to get off our arses and change it.
@@julesmasseffectmusic ahhh…the Privy Council….isn’t that where Donnie tried to flush his document dump….down the Privy?
@@michaelbray109 I didnt go that route on purpose, it was low hanging fruit. and i figured i could eventual ly think of a food,
TOO LATE FOR THEM TO ACT LIKE THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WUZ GOING ON FOR ALL THESE YEARS JUST BECAUSE THEY WANNA TRY & SAVE THEIR OWN AZZEZ!!💯💯
The curious thing would be what the internal communications were in the accounting firm.
What were the staff saying about the creative ways that the Trump Organization accounts were reading, and did anyone think to question what they were seeing and hearing?
The other thing is - If the company was aware that there were some illegalities in the books, don't they have a duty to report it?
They can't just shut their eyes to what they're seeing and pretend they saw nothing.
@@victors8465 Stating that the records are unreliable is how that accounting firm is TRYING to get out of being prosecuted for aiding and abetting fraud. Someone high up in that firm took bribes or was blackmailed into helping Dumpy Donny Trumpy commit fraud. Look to see who was recently "let go" from the firm - perhaps with a golden parachute and an NDA - for the culprit.
@@gracebellamy586 Have you seen the Durham Reporting lately?? Federal charges filed you should go check it out!!
@@onlyyou725 Actually yes, I have checked into the Durham probe and I found, just as most experts have found, that it not only violates the constitutional clause against politically motivated investigations, but it is vague enough to be useful as politically motivated fodder for propaganda outlets associated with Rupert Murdoch. This include the Fox propaganda outlets. John Durham is likely one of those men who are dangling on the chain of blackmail by Trumpty Dumpty, probably as a result of his association with Jeffrey Epstein.
There have been three indictments filed. One got probation, and that was likely a result of Durham promising them probation if they would lie for him. Two others, Sussman and Danchenko, have yet to stand trial but both have plead not guilty to charges. What were they charged with? Lying to the FBI about the identity or status of people from whom they claimed to have gotten information, but NOT ABOUT THE INFORMATION ITSELF! So, in other words, if they forget the proper spelling or pronunciation of a name and used what they remembered incorrectly when they spoke to the FBI about things regarding the Trump Organization and Russia, then THAT is what Durham has charged them with. He has NOT charged them with lying about the information, however!
So your Durham report is not what you think it is. It is vague, empty, and in no way manages to throw enough logical questions about the Mueller investigation to make that nest egg of Trump's crimes go away. Remember, Mueller did not exonerate Trumpty Dumpty... he just was not in a position to charge him with anything since Trumpty was the president. And only Congress can indict the President. Which they did. It's called impeachment. Then Moscow Mitch slid and slithered his way around having to have an actual trial of Dumpy Donny, thus saving his hide from conviction. Dumpy Donny owes Moscow Mitch a big favor... which he will never repay, because he doesn't pay any of his debts.
T.D.S news for T.D.S sufferers.
Put the Trumps behind bars....jail, bighouse prison, hooscow....
Just lock them up...!!!
What took the accounting firm so long???? I bet you they already knew this a long time ago... They thought tagging along with him would gain them more customers... NOT! Better get out while you can!
They were getting paid?
@@michaelbray109 that should be one the 7 wonders of the world.
Rumor Has It Boris and Natasha accounting firm will pick up their account🇲🇽🇨🇦🇺🇸🔵🇺🇸🇨🇦🇲🇽
Have you checked out the Durham findings lately? Federal charges now filed... go check it out!!
Big Blow for Hillary are you going to report on that MSDNC ?
Is she in our government? So, who cares.
Hey, MSNBC..... any particular reason you don't want to talk about John Durham's latest findings?
The only finding is that Biden should have fired Durham on day 1.
@@williamg8269 He sure should've cause he, obama, and clinton are in a world of caca.
@@JustMe-uw3oj No they aren't.
They brought down -- Al Capone through the bookkeeper -- --. HISTORY REPEATING ITSELF?
"What's past is prologue"... Shakespeare [The Tempest].
Joyce Vance always has the best 👌 information....easy to understand for us pathetic lay people 🌝.
Lots of credibility and integrity.
We only in 2022 and look how desperate news is to get their ratings up??
“ I love it when a plan comes together “
Can someone tell me why " Trump's LONG-TIME ACCOUNTING FIRM " has suddenly decided to drop him? It's not likely he developed his shady business practices in the last year or 2. This is just like all those people who were " former Trump aides " who are now/suddenly developing consciences...at the same time they are " suddenly " publishing tell all books.
Might had to fire someone then the new guy saw that the numbers did not add up?
They're trying to cover their butts. They can see how much trouble they can potentially be in. They look shady, already...
Certain senior people "suddenly" want to avoid going to jail?
Because they are now working with The NY AG.
Stating that the records are unreliable is how that accounting firm is TRYING to get out of being prosecuted for aiding and abetting fraud. Someone high up in that firm took bribes or was blackmailed into helping Dumpy Donny Trumpy commit fraud. Look to see who was recently "let go" from the firm - perhaps with a golden parachute and an NDA - for the culprit.
Trump should have learned something from Al Capone! Gotta pay your taxes...
This reminds me of the ( accounting firm ) that certified ( Enron )
Banks depend on those docs.
Can the lending institutions that depended on these docs. Sue
the accounting firm.
Partly because of the American (shared only with Eritrea) tax law, leave was granted by The Court of Session in Edinburgh 🏴 to seek an Unexplained Wealth Order (MacMafia order) reasons including, though not limited to, different tax returns on the same properties, to different National tax authorities. Ten years plus of no trump business in Scotland declaring a profit. And My personal favourite, approaching a bank, the vendor, to buy an hotel for, if memory serves, £26 mill on condition that the bank loaned £36 mill. Apparently trump and mob were most upset when the bank declined the offer.
Trump: I don’t know much about that accounting firm. They only put their stamps on the financial statements I handed them.
But he's heard they're very nice, really beautiful, people but he doesn't really know them.
Don’t believe it
As an accountant with a Master of Science in Accounting, I can definitely state that this is a load of cr@p from this accounting firm. They did the financial statements to the best of their ability over 10 years ago. You can't just go back and say, "oh I have changed my mind." what twats.
Stating that the records are unreliable is how that accounting firm is TRYING to get out of being prosecuted for aiding and abetting fraud. Someone high up in that firm took bribes or was blackmailed into helping Dumpy Donny Trumpy commit fraud. Look to see who was recently "let go" from the firm - perhaps with a golden parachute and an NDA - for the culprit.
this more redirect as The criminal behavior perpetrated by our government is just mind boggling towards the 2016 Presidential Trump campaign
Go and watch Fox if you want conspiracy theories… 😂
Funny how this came out AFTER it was proven he was being spied on!
@@tsunchoo right dude how many of these braindead individuals will be spamming the word Durham in here
You are so used to being lied to you will never be able to learn a thing.
It's now tax season. I wonder what accounting firm could be convinced to do Trump's taxes now given the fact that Trump's previous accounting firm dumped him?
Based on the Super Bowl ad, TurboTax has staff available 24/7 to help with your taxes.
Dewey, Cheatham and Howe.
America is actually a better country without Trump as our president anymore.
Yes, it's way better now that we don't have that lying, coward anymore.
it might get bad march 1 freind be prepared
Americans paying record high prices for goods. Open border with no authority. No America is in a downward spiral
There is nothing wrong with the southern border at all.
@@jon7375 🤣🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡 Thats a good lil parrot also biden dosent control prices smart one
Hundred 's of millions in tax evasion from one Mazars client, and they work'n 90 countries. The Ireland, South African, and Chinese firms are quite interesting.
In Plato's republic the slaves did not get a vote, notice any similarities.
It makes me giddy to imagine Drumpf down in Mar A Lardo having a complete meltdown.
Trump had a victorious weekend. I'm not a Trump fan. I don't want him to run, but MSNBC is a joke. They're distracting you from the biggest campaign scandal since Watergate.
@joe dough In truth, it's only about a third of voting adults who are still trumpublican cultists. And that number is shrinking, as those who have any sanity left are attaching their sights to other republicans. It takes a serious amount of insanity to continue to be a trumpublican cultist after ALL that has happened. Or, one might be a paid troll. Which are you, Joe?
@@gracebellamy586
If it makes you get up in the morning to better yourself, sure..
@joe dough Make sure the train doesn't run through you 😉
@@myman8336 You don't deserve that pfp.
My sense of shadenfruede just rose up.
This does NOT bode well for DJT
More like shady-fraud
Hahaha, you people have been saying that for 6 years, and guess what? Nah, I'll let you keep believing the same tired crap that flows from these "News" outlets..LOL
@Phuc Hong the amount of money Trump spends on lawyers says everything. In the end, they got Al Capone on tax evasion, despite all the evidence he was (like Trump) guilty of innumerable crimes.
@@drewpknutz1410 Trump's lawyers had legal cases against the IRS to keep them from divulging any information until after the election, at which point he simply ordered them not to and they - because they had to - obeyed. He was the HEAD of our GOVERNMENT, and thus he was immune to any prosecution except that of the Congress! And Moscow Mitch McConnell, who has been a Russian asset for many years, shielded him from that rightful prosecution. Now, he is no longer President and no longer immune from prosecution. Now the IRS can act, but they are cooperating with other prosecutors to build the various cases air tight. You start with the unpaid traffic tickets and work your way up to the tax evasion and perjury and RICO statutes. Oh, and the TREASON.
@@drewpknutz1410 Sure Jan, innumerable reputable international and US public and independent news agencies, Vs a handful of "news" generated by immoral billionaire Murdoch's Fox, NY Post etc and whack-a-mole Fox far-reich wannabes. Whatever happened to Hunter's laptop? 😅🤣😂
Puffering? How is a $100,000,000,000 “puffering?!”
The people have dumped CNN and MSNBC
....and FOX News....and OAN....