Cyberpunk 2077 - What Happened to SPIDER MURPHY?
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
- Spider Murphy is one of the most significant characters in Cyberpunk 2020 lore, but she only makes a brief appearance in Cyberpunk 2077 during a Johnny Silverhand memory sequence. Not much is mentioned about Spider’s life before and after the attack on Arasaka Tower but we can build a pretty complete picture of the famous netrunner by digging into the tabletop books. And that’s what we’re going to do today.
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The same VA who voiced Misty and Spider Murphy also voiced Meredith Stout which I would've never guessed before seeing the credits
I caught on how she used her Futaba voice for both, but never caught on that she was Stout too.
It’s Erika Lindbeck. Also the voice of Cassie Cage in Mortal Kombat 11 (replacing Ashley Burch), Jessie in Final Fantasy 7 Remake, and MagieLou in Tales of Berseria. I know my voice actors, and I am quite an Erika Lindbeck fan. She’s become pretty prolific like Steve Blum.
Hideo Kojima level theories will be birthed from this.
whoa
@@Varizen87 wait Erica Lindbeck? You mean to tell me Black Cat's VA voiced Meredith? No wonder Meredith had me simping 🗿🗿🗿
Theory here: the body stayed "preserved" because it was in freezer that was actually recently dumped. In one of the gigs (Many Ways to Skin a Cat, at Rever Courier Service, if I recall correctly) there is a message on one of the computers about a freezer being held since the 2020s that is due to be thrown out since the account is no longer being payed up.
Edit: it's on a yellow tagged datashard
Found this one too. Was not looking for it and it was like a bolt out of the blue. Great easteregg.
This sounds about right from what I remember too. It will be really interesting to see how all of this ties together with what's going on beyond the black ice and the other AIs inhabiting bodies
Oh damn smart connection.
Explains the preserved nature and why it was so "accessible", truck straight up dropped it the week of V's story taking place.
I thought that shard was talking about the fridge you can find rache bartmoss in.
The simple fact that there's still ice cubes and the body is still intact makes me think exactly this connection. If the ice box had been there alot longer, the body would have been a liquefied slop.
That moment you realize Rogue is 70+ years old, and still kickin ass.
She probably has quite a lot of money and his able to afford high end life extension therapies.
@@tmage23 Bro Hanako Arasaka is 78 😂
@@dazzledazz123 the stresses from Johnny saw to his increased aging lol
@@dazzledazz123 the arasakas probably aren't the best people to compare life span to, but yeah. Saburo is like 150 as well
So is Kerry Eurodyne who looks even younger, like a man in his 30s despite also being 70+ years old. Them life extension methods of the future are really something.
Fun little sidenote: Spider Murphy was originally (or so I've read somewhere, but can't remember exactly where) the character of Lisa Pondsmith, Mike Pondsmith's wife, in the TTRPG. Just like Morgan Blackhand is Mike's character.
Close, but Mike's Player character was Ripperjack, a Techie. But he's played Morgan, and Johnny before..
Bartmoss has to be the wildest character in the universe. Dude managed to digitize himself and then make a date the day he crashed the Old Net.
murphy is still around. There is a show on the rock radio where the presenter describes a convo he had with her. He doesn't refer to her by name ofc but it is abundantly clear who he's talking about
Yeah, and the host of the show is Maximum Mike.
Fun Fact: Spider Murphy Gang was a quite popular german band in the 80s :)
Interesting, thx for sharing
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Thanks for this! I was always curious about Spider Murphy! Fun fact: She's voiced by Erica Lindbeck who also voices Futaba Sakura from Persona 5 who is also an expert hacker.
Def interesting! Thx for sharing 😊
Loony Toony from Helluva?!? Its official she’s one of those legends like Christina Vee and Laura Bailey 😀😀😀 BEAUTIFUL
She's also misty's va
@@alejandromoreno6879 AGAIN BEAUTIFUL 🤩
Black cat from insomniac's spiderman
So what you're saying, is that Spider Murphy retired, found religion, and opened a New Age shop called 'Misty's Esoterica.' You know, I always figured that Misty could afford to go days without customers because Vik was independently wealthy, and simply paid for her and her shop to act as a front for his back alley ripper clinic. Now it's clear I was wrong, and I had it backwards.
It also conveniently explains why Misty knew what drug would unleash Johnny in V's mind. Relic 2.0 is derived from Soulkiller, and Spider Murphy is already intimately familiar with that. It could also explain why V see tarot cards all over the place, that conveniently look exactly like Misty's deck, despite V not really knowing what tarot cards were beforehand. Misty probably slipped some code into V's OS while they were laid up after the heist, in order to try and help them out.
Don’t know if you’re serious or not, but isn’t it mentioned that Jackie and Misty knew each other since childhood or something?
@@carj3391 who’s to say Spider/Misty didn’t hack Jackie’s memories at some point?
or Misty is her child, since she and Jackie grew up together
@@carj3391 If it's the line I think you're referencing in the side job "Heroes" where you talk to Misty while going through Jackie's garage, I think Misty says /she/ knew Jackie since he was a kid, not that they both grew up together.🤔
Soo your saying Jackie banged a 70 year old?
When i first got into the game i honestly thought there was a connection between Spider murphy and maelstrom, because maelstrom's symbol is a spider with a tech like head, and spider murphy seemed to fit the whole "tech above all" idea that could have been manipulated into the maelstrom current way of doing things.
or mealstrom sees her as above all being.
No, the name Spider Murphy is a reference to a song by Elvis Presley, it has nothing to do with Maelstrom
No one is asking where Spider Murphy's name originated from but appreciate the fun fact though
She was pretty cool in that one mission we got to meet her. Pretty fun character
I have i crazy quess that wakako is same women who was working with arasaka in 2023 who used soulkiller on johnny. She told her husband died in tower and wakako had more than 5 husbands i think and they sound alike
Interesting
90% of the things you see in Johnny's memories are incorrect. Alt mentions that when V talks about seeing johnny's memories. "What you saw was a subjective version of what really happened that Johnny has been reliving." That memory with Johnny being interrogated didn't happen, he was already dead when Smasher shot him in half earlier. The real version of what happened in both of Johnny's flashbacks is in Cyberpunk RED, which is where i got all this info from.
@@dillankempter5780 so what was true? Why it was part of the story.
I can believe that Johnny could had same thing Jackie did but what i said, it's just theory also he never met her before unless his memories combine with v's memories
@@rokasciurinskas7890 The “Never fade away” story in Cyberpunk 2020 and “The Fall Of The Towers” in Cyberpunk RED are the canon events of what happened. Both of those stories were written by Pondsmith iirc and came out before 2077 did. They’re as canon as you can get.
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events happened for sure but what was Johnny doing nobody knew then he even could imagine getting killed by smasher and died another way but i bet cyberpunk red has everything clear im just lazy to read it
There's the Maximum Mike broadcasts on the Morro Rock radio station, too. One of them has Mike relating a discussion with one of his old netrunner friends, talking about the blackwall, daemon programs and the like. Shit really hints at it being Spider that he's talking about.
You totally missed that there's a possible reference to her in the Cyberpunk RED book. In the section on NPC's of Night City is this listing.
A Recluse, of course, is a type of spider.
Recluse (Netrunner): Very little is known about the hermitic Netrunner living in the heart of the Combat Zone's Old Japantown district. But everyone in the Combat Zone knows you don't go into the old Kaifū Corner shopping complex unless you're looking for trouble or you need a top-tier Netrunner. For the last several years, Recluse has lived in the abandoned mini-mall, installing expensive, covert defenses and complex NET Architectures that most Edgerunners could only dream of acquiring. She only speaks with clients who can shell out big time cash and never meets anyone in person. Recluse prefers to meet clients in the lobby of her NET Architecture, where she appears in the form of her Icon, a tremendous brown recluse spider with an icy voice. Some say she's an ex-Netwatch agent, hiding out from her former employers; some say she's really an A.I.; and some people even say Recluse is a Net Ghost who lives in the Old NET. But there's one thing everyone in the Combat Zone knows: if you need a NET cracked, no matter how airtight, you go to Recluse.
damn, i think that might legit be it
combat zone? so we might see “Recluse” in Phantom Liberty
Might be our spider changing name after all!
@@brancolt_no the combat zone are regions within night city that existed in 2045. Those places are already available for us to visit in 2077
I wonder if the name Recluse could also be a hint that it is indeed spider. Since a Brown Recluse is a type of spider.
I found a mini mission with a reference to Spider Murphy out in the Badlands towards the SE. Forgot where but around the regional airport area.
There is a car on the side of the road with its door open and a body dressed in net runner gear laying just next to it and a shard. The shard recounts a tracking and recovery attempt of a "package" from I assume space. The attempt was discovered, and net runner taken out. Using the info on the shard you track down the "Package". The "Package" was a locker looking box in a shallow crater. Inside for me was 3 items. 2 of which were legendary BD wreaths of very low armor with writing from Spider Murphy on them.
if you ask Rogue for help to infiltrate Arasaka, you can question her about the 50 year gap as Johnny, eventually she'll say she sold out the gang from the bomb job to Arasaka so she could walk away
Bro she didn't. After everyone from the old crew left or die she started working with araska. She didn't sell them out
Spider Murphy very likely became the infamous "Recluse" from RED. They all but state it outright.
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She sought it with thimbles, she sought it with care, pursued it with forks and hope
"Bartamos was wrong" is 8ugbears shard. You come across crazy amounts or lore, but none of it is interesting until you know about the characters. I would have liked bugbear to be in it more... possibly just because I like the name.
Throughout the game I noticed a lot of hints towards balance between V and Johnny. There's also a chakra menu in Misty's store that mentions chakra harmony that resembles the attribute menu. I noticed that you get 71 attribute points. Now to my point... Has anyone ever tried spec'in 14 points into each attribute and saving the last one for the relic spot? I only thought this because when you click the relic it always say insufficient points when you have none and does nothing when you do. Might be another mystery.
There is so much series/movie potential in the Cyberpunk world that its overflowing.
So being obsessed with cyberpunk I've been collecting every table top book and even plan on playing the table top games but I would love to be a part of digging up the lore behind cyberpunk if you ever need a hand
She propably joined a band called Spider Murphy Gang. Jokes aside, does anybody know if her name is inspired by the band (a german 70s/80s rockband, "Skandal im Sperrbezirk")?
Hey Big Dan. Could you do a video about the history of Alt Cunningham? I know she has more material in the tabletop books that isn’t represented in the games
You ran into Spider Murphy in the intro adventure for Cybergeneration. Cybergeneration itself is a weird little alternate timeline of a game, you played neurotech-enhanced, idealistic cyberkids picking up the pieces after the last generation. There is a transition government and martial law with Biotechnica on top.
Spider has been rounded up by BuReloc goons and placed in a work camp. Her fake ID has held up and she's in gen pop, but you got to bust her out before someone notices her real identity.
Cybergeneration was very weird but I thought it was unique. I ran it once for my players, it was a nice self-contained little experience.
@@orbitalbutt6757 Everyone is nanotech cyberkids, right? You're in some kind of reconstruction era, apparently Biotechnica runs it.
I’m probably reading too much into it, but what if Spider Murphy is Judy’s mother or grandmother? Judy has a spider web tattoo, and she even sounds like Spider, and has a knack for computers/tech.
🤯
Judy is a techie not a netrunner
The VA for Spider also voiced Futaba in Persona 5 who is also a super talented hacker
I have it as an understanding that Spider Murphy after that big Arasaka mission , she cuts her hair wich used to be super long (she was a Rias Grammery) and moves to the East apparantly she finds a husband and has a child and retires (hell she probley was the one who taught SoMi how to be a netrunner (speculation) V could have met her while he /she was in Atlanta as well when they were younger (speculation) the books are great but they did leave us guessing alot of stuff on the entirety of the Lore of the characters.
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Shaitan wasn't on the boat dude, he was just a bio pod at the time. I believe it was smasher waving him about that baited blackhand into the duel.
:15 that neck snap turn though.
Funny but did anyone remember the Elvis song "jailhouse rock" "spider Murphy played the tenor saxophone...."
Is Misty Spider Murphy? Misty Murphy, seems right with her voice. Nah, she knew Jackie as a kid.
Also she is way too young to be Spider. Doesn't have cybernetics and her face is still young compared to Rogues face.
Spider Murphy, Misty, and Meredith Stout is all voiced by the same VA.
Some say, Spider Murphy is still playing on the saxophone
According to Cyberpunk RED, Spider's the one who ran Soulkiller on Johnny, not Arasaka. The fact that the engram ended up in Arasaka's hands does not bode well for her.
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Think Spider actually rejected Bartmoss, so he relased that virus to the Net, would make sense.
I did Don't fear the reaper last night and Johnny mentioned her. I was wondering who it was haha.
This...this would make an awesome DLC to finally find out the truth of the Arasaka attack. Need to bring back Thompson too. Had high hope he would've been revealed as Hands.
Its cut content, We might see something actually added for the expansion concerning Murphy......There is a chance actually that Bartmoss is still out there in the net, As for Murphy Rogue says she sold everyone out and high tailed it out(which we know she is the one that did that), Also there is actually a Chance Alt and Johnny are actually still alive, the version of soulkiller may not have actually killed them but it looked that way according to the Constructs memories, Silverhands memories may have been altered as a means of interrogation as that is what Arasaka wanted in the first place. We may even get to see Blackhand eventually as there are only rumors he is dead.
I mean for reasons you are going to have differences between the game and tabletop version, Pondsmith did work on the game, so I would say that its official lore, and Cyberpunk probably will have eventually tabletop revisions to account for it. I think we will see more than 1 DLC for the game,. and the reason is that it is probably going to sell well, as people eventually will have newer consoles and PC hardware will push it to the point you can reasonably get all the eye candy for a reasonable cost at good frame rates the 4090 plays the game at 4k maxed out above 60 fps with Ray tracing cranked. So I only think the popularity of the game especially after Edgerunners Anime is really making the studio and investors rethink their strategy here, and they probably are not going to want to just shit these games out to far, so they are going to want to stretch the content out.
While I'd be keen for more DLC, I'm pretty sure they mean it when they say Phantom Liberty will be the only one. The studio is totally done with their in-house REDengine and are switching to Unreal for future projects, including the planned Cyberpunk 2077 sequel that's expected to start preproduction next year.
Weve been talking about this on other channels we hope to see spider murphy song bird and blackhand in the coming expansions/story..
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She ended up in prison, playing the tenor saxophone, while Little Joe was blowin on the slide trombone.
what if the emp V and Panam used to down the Kang Tao AV also caused bartmoss’s cryo-freezer thing to stop working 👀
later on in game after you down the AV you hear about parts of the city losing power on the radio! if it was that strong to damage NC’s power grid no doubt it would have fucked with the freezer and thats why theres still ice and the body hasnt decomposed
Doubt Bartmoss freezer was still working if it was dumped in landfill.
You can find the freezer straight away if I remember right.
Though it could of been the game bugging I think she's still around while looking for a way to sneak in a building I found a vending machine with sparks coming out the side when I got closer there was a spider painted on the machine where the sparks were coming from
My brain crashed to the image of Spider Murphy being a Vtuber...
They missed an opportunity to have them played by Henry Rollins again.
I just love the name "Spider Murphy" lol 🔥🔥
Spidermurphy. Spidermurphy. Does whatever Spidermurphy does
I think Spider Murphy just quietly retired, like T-Bug planned to after your big heist. By this time she had to have been insanely rich.
Rache bartmoss body didn't decay because he was mostly cyberneticly enhanced? That's what I tell myself everytime I go up to that deep freeze. Dude was mostly metal and that's why he's still looking like he died yesterday.
dan ur vids are very interesting found ur channel yesterday keep it up!
thing is table top and the video game are not in the same timeline its a split timeline like how fallout series differs from our world, and this will stand until the table top of 2077 is finished up so until then the two cannons are not one.
It would be pretty cool to meet her in a mission that’s if she still alive
Her real identity is Futaba
She became song bire
I love RPGs. Ohhh, you meant Role-Playing games? Well, those to.
Would be huge to learn that Spider is actually Misty
Wouldn't the ice have melted by 2020???? In 2077?? Or is this some super ice?
>radioshack
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Welp now I have questions. Questions like "is anything in cyberpunk 2077 cannon" cause it is vastly different from the rest of the universe
this question occurred to my mind yesterdy, thank you for the video.
So looks like spider was the only one to survive and leave night city in the background of chaos
Bro really dated her then committed a historic terror attack on the date. Giga chad.
so Bart's engram actually died? I thought he was still alive somewhere beyond the black wall
Blackwalls a hell of a drug
You digged deep but not deep enough, there is more about Spider in CP2077.
Then share it here if you have anything to add ☺️
make a video about it then
@@ChelseaH1 better to check on CZcams cyberpunk lore there's a channel were they talk bout all lore before 2077 recommend to check it out
how can it be that cybermorphy did a gig a day after arasaka tower grayson on ebunike says rouge was trhe only person from the team that survived this event?
Johnny Silverballs
I wonder if the name came from Jailhouse Rock?
Last I heard, he was playing Saxaphone in the county Jail?
Brooklyn Phoenix down below has the real answer through data shards.
Are we sure Spider Murphy didn't change her identity or something? Perhaps she's working at a little spirit shoppe in Watson.
I like how people were offended by Rebecca but then you have Spider's icon...
Rage Bartmoss :)
I'm still confused about why Spider made an engram of Johnny and how that ended up in Arasaka's hands
very important thing to remember : the Johnny flashbacks are not what actually happened. They are only the flawed and twisted memories that simmered for 50 years.
In München steht ein Hofbräuhaus
doch Freudenhäuser müssen raus
damit in dieser schönen Stadt
das Laster keine Chance hat
You're one of the few people I've heard say her name without accidentally adding a hyphen. Spider-Murphy, Spider-Murpy...
Cool character >o
I get it now… misty is spider😂👍🏽
Rogue must have used Sandevistan to turn her head at 0:16
Anyone know where/if/how to get her helmet/headgear?
Still hate how t bug just wasn’t morned, wish v had at least something to say
given the same VA and similar voices what if misty is her daughter? no one knew who spider murphy really was in the meat space except maybe johnny and rogue. and they arn't talking
Who else went crazy when you saw Nux?
it's confusing when johnny's memories lie and even art's "engram" isn't her. hope the sequel has a lot of Mr. blue eyes.
Just patiently waiting for those Sony hackers to break our internet
Someone know how i can make have on V same colours Johnny Silverhand have it on his memories back then?
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Is that how you pronounce his name? Raich? I always thought it was rach eee.
Things that happen in game are part of cannon? Or that is own separate universe?
Ancient comment, but Johnny's memories are not the actual events that took place. It's either his own twisted version of the events triggered by ego or trauma (or both) or the memories of the engram were tampered with by Arasaka.
Short Version: No one knows.
Well Spider is dead, or at least you can find her grave at the end of the game in the Johnny ending, her name on one of the walls where you put [REDACTED]
I haven't verified it, but I read in a different thread that they removed her name from there in one of the patches.
It's 2023 now, and where is all those netrunners? (thousands nerds who died at their PC cause 0 psychical activity doesnt count) It looks like 1940-th expectation of 1990 year, where people should fly at flying saucers, wear space suits and shoot from deathray guns, or something. Same with flying machines from Back to the Future. That's why Robocop script was in 2170-th years, or something - it's more realistic.
Personally i bet on 3000 year, or something - cause scientific progress is not so fast as in Sci-Fi...
Sooo the short answer is "I don't know"
she and rogue sold out to arasaka.. Case solved.
You can't just casually mention V-Tubing without telling us your Oshi Dan!
So basically they were 4chan?
spider was a vtuber
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