4 Metal VSTi Guitars Comparison | Part II
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- čas přidán 4. 07. 2024
- 4 Metal VSTi Guitars Comparison
- Impact Soundworks Shreddage 3 Jupiter
- Wavelet Audio Cabal 8
- Ample Sound Ample Metal Eclipse III
- Three-Body Technology Heavier7strings
0:00 Intro
0:03 Full mix comparison
1:56 Guitar only comparison
3:13 BONUS - Full mix of all guitars together
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Heavier7strings !!
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I have tried all of these guitars and here’s my take on all of these guitars
Shreddage 3 Jupiter is quite a strong guitar and can offer a heavy as hell rhythm but is often hard to program since it’s the most advanced out of the 4
Cabal 8, don’t even bother. Rr count is tiny, they haven’t fixed the phasing issue with the double track. Similar issues with that dracus library that orange tree released. Plus a cumbersome ui that really sucks on the eyes. (Also they didn’t even bother with player support)
Eclipse and ample sounds stuff is by far the easiest to work with, just remember to remove the offset and enable pick attack in the settings. It’s slides are by far the best out of the 4 and is the easiest to program leads. However it’s often hard to program the rhythm with it due to lack of range.
Heavier7strings is imo the king of leads when I used it, it has some of the most features out of all of them along with an advanced vibrato engine that makes it sound more realistic compared to the others, however it lacks the rr count for real rhythm action and makes it difficult to play with repetition. It can be quite brutal but it does need some more mixing to sound right
i just noticed the phasing problem is still prevalent in cabal 8 lmao
Hey snes! Fancy seeing you here =]
I agree with almost everything you said. But here's my main takeaway from all my experience programming with guitars. The only viable way to program a guitar to sound right is to have 100% control of the fretboard, and the only way to do this is to have one MIDI channel per string. Ample Sound has been doing that since the get-go, and they do it in such a way that it still respects the other articulations. I can have my friend play a solo for me, and I can transcribe it exactly as he played it with Ample Guitars. And I can do this with relative ease thanks to the multi-channel functionality. I have never seen a single video out there that utilizes this feature, and it's upsetting =/ And RE: "remove the offset": even the manual recommends this, but I honestly think that you get a much fuller sound if you keep the offset as is in the settings (35ms) and just add a negative sample delay in your DAW (-15ms).
Shreddage's Midi Guitar Mode is a mess. Keyswitches don't work reliably, and they almost always default to playing the wrong strings whenever you want to program a slide or hammer-on. It's a nightmare. I had high hopes for Shreddage 3 when I saw the demos (their DI sound and Bite knob are my selling point), but they're still a very big nope for me when it comes to programming.
H7S has the "inspiration keyswitches" (making it your "king of leads" I feel) which I have been begging Ample Sound to implement for years; but this is just about the only thing I go for with H7S. You can make a realistic shredding solo with it, but you can make it sound just as good with Ample Guitars with judicious use of the mod/pitch wheels. But I still love H7S for coming bundled with HeavierFX; their talkbox module is one of the only ones out there, and it's perfect, so I still highly recommend getting it.
As for Cabal 8-oh boy. You hit the nail on the head. Unless you're looking for a low-volume cinematic guitar texture in your piece, this one is not for you. BUT the clean sound is outstanding for ambience.
Honorable mention to MusicLab's instruments. Their customizable keyswitchs-coupled with the sheer volume of articulations makes them a really good contender. They just need to have better RR. They also allow you to control where you strum to give you extra pick sound and tone control, which is wonderful. But their multi-channel mode strips away all articulations, which makes the function a complete waste.
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@@drawnquartered1284 hey, same with you
ngl, never messed with the midi guitar mode but im not nearly as advanced as most of my piers lmao
it is possible to modify some of the issues with shreddage by changing a few of the parameters manually but it's a pain in the ass to mess with kontakt's scripting language
and yeah, music labs does have some great stuff for like almost no size
@@drawnquartered1284 though the one thing with ample that i could never understand was their decision to sample via mic instead of di for some of their guitars and the forced 35 ms offset that's on the default preset. it took me a long as hell time to realize that was a problem along with the pick attack being missing.
but yeah, ample guitar can make some great products, however there are a lot of duds they've done as well lol
@@snesmocha I suppose I never noticed the mic vs DI samples. After all the DI's I've been given over the years, I just took them at their word that DI meant DI in the software. As for the sample offset; that's important for realism. If you remove the sample offset entirely, you'll have a very unrealistic-sounding performance. That offset is meant to compensate for the pick attack; that's why you have to doubly-compensate in your DAW to keep that pick attack sound and keep your performance on time.
Thanks for the demo, I will try myself soon
Ample Sounds Eclipse for the win... Most "realistic" sounding "chugs"
Man jupiter sounds so fucking ANGERY in the chorus I LOVE it
ikr, jupiter is awesome, there are a few design flaws imo but that's as me looking into it like a developer and not a musician lol
@@snesmocha fair!
1 место: H7S (хоть и очень странные у неё палм мьюты)
2 место: Jupiter (хоть убейте, но Shreddage 2 звучит лучше, чем Shreddage 3)
3 место: Eclipse
4 место: Cabal (гитара для одной струны и для красивого чистого звука, но не более того)
Cool video. How did you select the sounds for each demo? The Cabal 8 sounds a lot weaker than what it can really do.
btw, next time if you plan to use h7s remember to disable the auto chords, cause it's rn playing different notes compared to the rest
Yoo it's so cool 🔥
Imo, Shreddage Jupiter is the best one in this video. Definitely a great secondary option if you can’t run Shreddage Hydra.
hydra is superior than jupiter?
@@JamesSSWayne each have their benefits. hydra is just an 8 string, nothing more along with both pick up modes avalible to you unlike jupiter which was designed for the ancient as hell s2 engine which basically cripples it.
@@JamesSSWayne Pretty much yes, hydra is more deeply sampled, has more range and one more pickup. So the only thing that might be better in Jupiter is it’s tone from pickups, but it’s completely up to personal preference. Overall both are great.
Cabal 8 & heavier 7 string this sound crazy amazing but i like it😍
I love the way pinch harmonics sound on Heavier7Strings. Also are the whammy bar and the pitch controlled seperately or is it the same control?
Different control surprisingly, iirc
H7s has a pretty interesting technology where it will create more round robins by shifting the phase of the samples around
Which could explain the sound
La comparación es brutal, pero que quedo con Heavier7strings y Eclipse, tienen muy buen sonido, me pregunto como conseguir ese mismo tono desde una guitarra real?
1), 3) and 4) - sounds very good. 2) Wavelet Audio Cabal 8 - punch of the string sounds artificial, like rubber or plastic.
Cabal 8 was sampled with a mic instead of di for some reason, along with that it has the lowest rr count and absolutely no dt samples. You have to really mess with it to prevent phasing.
And to add onto it, it’s buggy as hell and the samples don’t have a real rr engine when looking through the resource files… it’s just really not that good lol
What is better for Atmo Doom Metal?
I need a VST Pinch harmonics, thats it ;)
any metal guitar vsti that DOESNT require kontact?
Heavier 7 Strings doesn't need Kontakt, nor does the Ample Guitars, or even The Odin 2.