Why INDIA Rejected TALGO Train's ? || भारत ने टैल्गो ट्रेनों को क्यों अस्वीकार कर दिया?
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- čas přidán 20. 08. 2024
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In this eye-opening video, we delve into the stunning reasons behind the rejection of Talgo trains by the Indian Railways. The decision was based on a myriad of factors, and we're here to break them down for you.
Indian Railways, known for its extensive network and unique challenges, had some strong reservations about the suitability of Talgo trains for Indian conditions. Among the major issues cited were the trains being too narrow with a low footboard height, making them less accommodating for passengers.
But that's not all! The trains' height was also a concern, as they were deemed too low for the tall platforms commonly found across the Indian railway system. The complex process of separating coaches further raised doubts about their operational feasibility.
Hemant Kumar, a crucial figure in the Railway Board, pointed out that the trains couldn't be put into service in their current form, raising questions about their adaptability.
Furthermore, it was revealed that no foreign company had offered Indian Railways the same technology, leading to concerns about long-term maintenance and parts availability. Railway ministry officials were also hesitant to go for a direct agreement with Talgo.
Additionally, the lightweight nature of the trains was highlighted, with reports of accidents adding to the rejection list.
But there's more to the story! Bharat Forge Infrastructure Limited and Talgo India Private Limited teamed up to establish a joint venture aimed at manufacturing high-speed passenger trains in India, sparking curiosity about the future of train technology in the country.
Join us as we explore these astonishing reasons behind the Indian Railways' decision and what the future might hold for high-speed trains in India. Don't miss out on this intriguing revelation! Like, share, and subscribe to stay updated on all things rail-related.
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Acha hua reject kiya, nahi to koi Vande Bharat ke baare mei sochta bhi nahi. Hum import pe hi dependent rhe jaate. Luckily it was a good decision.
Bro vandebharath is an LHB coach with Memu configurations
@@neo3823it's EMU so what? Even bullet trains are based on EMU concept
@@saurabbhstar abe chutiye train 18 shandhu mani ki team ne desgin krke banani thi kyuki issko 18 month me bankr tayr liye aur 2018 me launch ku gyi issliye isse train 18 bola gya, lekin isska launch vande bharat ke nam rakha, patta nhi tum whatsapp vale kha se gyan uthate ho, jakr shadanshu mani ki ted talks hi dekh le
@@neo3823bullet train left chat 😂
@@saurabbhstarVande Bharat Ka Videshi Name Kuch Nahi Hai Bro Train 18 Uska Name Is Liye Hai Kyonki 18 Month Mein Indian Engineers Ke Dwara Developed Hui Hai And Indian Railway Signed Mou With Russia To Manufacture 120 Vande Bharat Express
That Modiji's clip was unexpected 😂
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Ai generated 😂😂
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App log bhi daba ke like thokie 🤣🤣 legend Dhasu Sir
Its good that it got rejected, otherwise nobody would have sanctioned Vande bharat
Modi ziii true youtuber
Ai generated 😂
@@Dr.Kraig_RenAI generated nahi Real hai, unka channel hai khudka wahi se li thi clip
Modi ji copyrights strike nhi karenge, ishi liye use kar rhe h
@@kushagra5549 right bro
CZcams fan fest ke liye bola tha modi ji ne 😂.....
Talgo failed so Vande Bharat could run
Talgo might be modern but they look so ugly thank god India rejected talgo. India made vande bharat is far better than talgo
modiji clip was god level 😂😂
Talgo coaches with Indian engine is like making pizza on tava 😅
Nahi bro pizza with allo lage ga😂
Bhai tawa mea pizza acha bnta hai
Not Pizza, but Tortilla made on Tava (since Talgo is Spanish)
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There was another major reason why Talgo was rejected. There was no other competing railway company that put forward any bids for such high-speed train sets. The rules for contracts in Indian Railways mandate that at least 2 companies or more have to place competing bids to be able to be accepted for a railways contract.
The logic is that competition would ensure that the companies would not resort to price gouging under the threat of termination of the contract and moving over to the next bidder. However, no other railway company was willing to invest in the manufacture of train sets at our broad gauge (1676 mm/ 5ft 6in) standard, and with no competing bids, Talgo was shelved.
This was as important as any other reason
Subscribe intro was unexpected
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Waah Modiji waah
Kya template diya h
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Modiji part was unexpected 😂😂😂
Tilting wheel technology of Talgo is the only solution to increase the average speed of Indian Railways. Average speed of Vande bharat train is perfect example. If We have the tilting wheel technology in vande bharat train, the avarage speed will get more than 110Kmph instead of 70-85Kmph
Yah but when it's come to maintenance it's will be pain and high cost because when it's come to maintenance in tilling wheel system the hall train need to tack there for it not only one coach if something happened in one coach and if you know then our train are capable to to go 180 not 110 or 80 it's track that making train slower not wheel sir
@@sagarvadoliya6252 There is no option other than tilting technology to enhance the average speed. Indian railways will change the Rails but due to the sharp curve average speed will never go up. Even before Vande Bharat India Railways was capable of running the trains up to 160KMPH. But average speed is between 80-90 KMPH.
ModiJi promoting every YT channel nowadays. 😂😂
Modiji ne bola subscribe krne ka to krne ka.😂😂
Yes. I see lot of channels doing that😂
Modiji ko unpe copyright marna chahiye💀
wo log sare changes karneko taiyar the .cost jyada thi lekin safety bhi jyada thi.bullet train ke kharche me 7000 talgo train aati .
Do Joint Venture
Indian Railway = 51%
Talgo = 49%
Cylindrical Train based on Talgo 230
Diameter of Train = 3 m
Cabin Height = 2 m
Track Width = 2 m
Wheel Size = 15"
Floor Height = 200 mm (Or Low R)
Low Center of Gravity = More Stability
Power Supply
AC = 110v & 90 Hz
BLDC Motor = 90Hz 2 Phase Half Wave DC
Front Engine = 2 Wheel
BLDC Motor = 1 × 2
1 Motor for each Wheel
Rear Engine = 2 Wheel
BLDC Motor = 1 × 2
1 Motor for each Wheel
Train Set = 4 Coach EMU based on Talgo 230
Power Car = 1st & 4th
* Bidirectional Train
Siting Arrangement
Facing each othr
3 Sit & 2 Row
And 2 cm Short Table in between
And 4 Toilet
2 in both End of Train
And no Curtain
Heard ashiwni vaishnav's sir speech where he had mentioned some of the points of developing high class trains
Talgo's sharing wheeled technology is extremely good. This can be used for trainsets
it is not good, it means the coaches cannot be separated if any coach has any issue,
the entire trainset goes offline if any coach has any serious issue.
exactly... and also the suspension in such Talgo layouts is pretty awful indeed... a more traditional layout with one bogie in each end is much more suitable
@@prasannask8320
@@prasannask8320It has its advantages like safety in derailing, smoother ride and lower weight.
Vanda Bharat is best 😊
@@wantaferrari yes but main issue is, european trains carry way less passengers , often 40% to 80% of seating capacity. Indian trains often carry 120% to 220% of rated capacity. that leads to more tear and wear on some coaches so often such coaches need to be replaced which is not easy on a talgo set.
Talgos bogy and coach design is a safety feature, in the event of a derailment indian caoches climb on other coaches of the train leading to more casualties.
Talgos design prevents this hazard.
you are partly correct. old ICF coaches were linked with hook and slot which did not keep the coaches together in any accident.
but current LHB coaches are linked with knuckle lock system which is strong enough to keep the coaches inline for most accidents .
talgo linked wheelset provide stronger benefit but that also means the coaches cannot be separated easily, it will need specialised equipment to separate the coaches so incase any coach has an issue, the entire train set is out of commission.
@@prasannask8320yes 💯
@RedSupergiant Bhai safety wafety se koi pharak nahi padta end mein toh pathar khana hai ya kisi ke so called nationalistic peaceful community ke plan se derail hona hai 😊
LHB coaches do not climb on each other during derailment. That used to happen with ICF coaches.
We already have that technology in the form of lhb coaches. The coaches you see climb on other coaches are icf ones
Main reason was talgo rejected "make in India" and IP transfer of coaches. Size etc can be redesigned but Spain got greedy looking at Indian railways upgradation plan of coaches which is World's 2nd largest route.
- It was this loss experience and the covid hit tourism that made Spain quietly accept C-295 aircraft "make in India" plan
Fact of the matter is we rejected talgo and now we have vande bharat . Better than talgo in all segments. Right decision taken by indian railways . 😊❤❤
Not better par Kam chalane ke lie thik h
Bande Bharat train is way better than talgo as per Indian infrastructure and Indian route...
Vande Bharat does have the bogies between the coaches. It's not a problem if you are the one manufacturing and maintaining it.
Kuchh bhi. Dude you have no idea what a bogie is?
pura jahil ho kya ?
😂😂 what😂😂😂
Oh Pata Nahi Ji Kaun Sa Nasha Karta Hai
@@neerajwabogie aur coach alag hote hai
Then comes swadeshi Vande Bharat Trains (Train 18)❤
#askpt difference between talgo and vande Bharat train
Thank you for the information.
I used to wonder why this train was not introduced after trial.
As my opinion
Talgo is a spainsh train company that also manufacture also train set
Like talgo aliva 250 and 250 hybrid
Talgo ave 350
And
Talgo avril
Yes absuloutly vande bharat is good train
But we need to more studies
On train sets
Vande bharat nose is so ugly we need to update ki
And also cockpit also
But whole train is nice
Europen train sets having
More aerodyanamics
Cafeteria coach etc
Dedicated Cafeteria coach shud be a must on the premium trains. Not sure why no one talks about it here.
Also private cabins with attached toilet/bathroom in first ACs. Might jack up the fares a bit but can be tried on a few train routes. Also more food options atleast on the premium trains.
Is it really ugly ? 😅 I think it's okay
Hmm overall why I say ugly the nose of vande bharat becoz in vande bharat no have rrts , European and China japan like
Mouth like technology
That control by piolet from cockpit
In the mouth you see a coupler
But now what the nose cover by fiber
Damage in catale accident
@@jaguarunleashed4935
Yes absolutely
We want more major minor
Changes in vande bharat
Thanks for sharing the details.
I used to ask myself what reason was to drop this train technology, because I didn't read the article later on these trains.
Because I read somewhere these trains are made with Aluminum frames, which is equivalent to aircraft aluminum, doesn't rust BLA BLA....
now I got the reasons.
Anyway, ICF Chennai is good for Indian tracks, Tata cars are good for Indian roads and TVS bikes are for INDIAN roads.
Usually, people comment like this.
Aacha hua! Hamare Indian engineers ka Kamal dekho! Vande Bharat ke samne ye talgo valgo kuch nhi hai!
Apne Desh ki hi train aachi hai!
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It is true, initially I was brainwashed that we need to purchase everything from outside and I felt sad that high speed talgo was rejected. But I did not know the power of Modi
@0:39 modiji ne kaha karne ka toh krne ka na bhau 😂😂😂😂
As soon as I saw Narendra Modiji talking about Like comment and subscribe on his channel a few days ago, I knew someone was going to use this in their video and I was right 😂
wah modi ji wah😂😂🫶🏻
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Talgo has tilting technology can move faster than vandebhraath in our tracks
Wande bharat me bhi aa jayegi abhi testing pe he
All these reasons are very obvious and would have been known before, why did we take trials then?
Why Indian railway not starts metro coaches in meter gauge line it's look is good and also we can start as sleeper and ac coaches.
why indian railways asking private companies(like Alstom,siemens) who won the tender to manufacture trains in IR facilties like ICF Chennai instead of in their own factory.
Bhai alstom technology transfer sign kar product lati hai.
Alstom is constructing factories of its own, such as the Electric Locomotive Factory in Madhepura for the manufacture of electric locos. The thing is, until now, there was complete technology transfer which meant that the company would hand over the patents, and let Indian manufacturers build the tech. Only now are we allowing foreign manufacturers to directly establish railway factories.
Your commentary/narration matches with the Sachin of 'Railgyankosh' channel. Your voice and accent matches with that boy.
All the specifications would have been shared beforehand to Indian railways regarding the width, platform height, bogies etc. So the question arises why the train was even brought to India for testing?
Didn't the competent engineer from India gave URS (user requirements specifications) to renefe (talgo)?
More than the failure of talgo in India I'd say it was failure to review and understand the specifications of the train set.
Wah Modiji Wah.. 😂
Thanks to that we got Vande Bharat
Mene ye train deka tha
Thoda sa ajeeb tha 😅essa laga ki ham or koi country me hai 😂🥲
Bro u need to upgrade your format..your content has power but I think you should change your format by bringing facecam
..your format looks of 2016 in 2023...
Indian Summer Temp is 50 Degree
We need maglev trains in India.
IN 1966 SIMILAR DESIGN OF TALGO TRAIN WAS OUT DECCAN QUEEN WHICH WAS RUNNING BETWEEN MUMBAI AND PUNE. IT HAD WOODEN BOGIES AND ONE WHEEL SET WAS SUPPORTING TWO COACHES. IT WAS THE QUEEN OF RAILWAY. THERE WERE TWO SUCH QUEENS WERE RUNNING. THE OTHER WAS BETWEEN MUMBAI CENTRAL AND SURAT. IT WAS NAMED FLYING QUEEN AND HAD ICF COACHES.
DUE TO WOODEN COACHES AND MAINTENANCE WAS DIFFICULT WHICH WAS EFFECTING THE SAFETY IT WAS REPLACED WITH ICF COACHES IN 1070 OR SO.
So basically ICF/LHB trains are like body on frame Boleros while TALGO train was like the the Ford Endeavour.
A "bogie" refers to the wheeled undercarriage that supports a train's cars or coaches.
0:39 creative 😂😂😂😂
Bro maine Durgiana express, Himgiri , Archna , lokmanya tilak , Malda town ye sab sare train humare yaha aaram se 120 pe chalte hain .
Hume bas apni track ko upgrade karna chahiye
We Indians with 3.8$ trillion GDP are happy with 6% gdp growth rate, where as China with 19$ trillion Gdp are still growing with 4.4% gdp growth rate. India has crossed china in terms of population, but skilled workforce will not cross in next 50 years. Youth in India are still busy in Hindu-Muslim, Elvish vs Abhishek. No one wants to hear the truth 😢
Bhai thoda calculate kar to pata chalega ki India haar saal 6 se 7% ke growth rate ke saath aapne GDP pe haar saal approximately 300 billion usd add karta hai
Jabki Chika 900 billion se 2 trillion USD tak add kar lega. Unka chota percentage Jo tu bol raha hai 4% ka who 19 trillion dollar ka 4% hai. Hamara 9% bhi jo hai wo sirf 3.8 trillion USD ka hai. Overall mai bhi optimistic hu. Growth rate fast hai aur jaise he 3rd largest economy banenge tab growth rate me aur bhi jada tezi aayega. Aur young population ke karan aage bhi growth rahega jabki China ka Ganda waala katega kyuki population aged hoo chuka hai. Young log hai nahi waha pe. Aur abb cheap labour bhi nahi hai waha pe jaisa pahle tha. Xi ke jate hai waha Ganda waala corruption aayega. Aur agar war hua to USA aur nato mil ke pura barbad kar denge China ko.
@@succmymeme572Bhai aap Sapna bahut aacha dekhte ho! Mere liye ek script likhoge? Movie ke liye.
@@succmymeme572India me 1700 cr. Ke bridge dekhte hi gir jaate hai 😅. Hasne wala Infrastructure hai. Hamare, ham kya China se compete karenge. Aur baat rahi population ki jo aap bol rhe ho to mai aapko bta dun. India ka skilled worforce, 2100 tak bhi China ko nhi cross payega. India R&D and education dono me bahut Kam kharch karta hai. India me aaj bhi aachi education lena ek luxury hai. Ek-ek project ko complete karne ke liye 10-20 saal lag jaate hai. China ka GDP per capita 13000 usd hain Aur wahi India ka 2600$? Hame Indonesia ne bhi Puche kar diya hai. Lekin log sach nhi sunna chahete aur *"SUPERPOWER"* banna chahte hai 😢😅
@@tejasviaanandPaisa kitna doge
Wese bhi unemployment jyada hai😅
Trust chinese numbers as much as you trust a hooker
How were they able to run on Broad Guage as they use Iberain Guage ?
Savi reason faltu hai except AtmaNirvar Varat & expensive.
1. Vande Bharat mai v coaches ka mixing nahi hota , satabdi , duranta ka coach nahi lagaya jata.
to Telgo ko v bina coach mixing k run kia ja sakta tha .
2. Door stairs ko redesign kia ja sakta hai according to IR platform.
Pr talgo apni technology share nahi krna chata tha....
uske wajah se hume saare coaches import krne padte...
Part kharab ho jate to bhi import krne padte....
Sab kuch bahot expensive ho jata...vande bharat se bhi jyada ticket hota😅
Iske pehle bhi Technology transfer na krne ki wajah se bahot saare project cancel kiye gaye the....
More importantly, there was only one axle placed between two coaches. System of bogie did not exist.
I'm from Bareilly bro 😎
Hight, width, bogey and coach structure, capacity, maintenance cost ye sab trial se pehle hi pta nhi kiya
Aapney ye nahi bataya ki Talgo ki articulated Bogie system way too advanced technology hai modern time me...
Matlab high end Android chaiye tha flexibility ke liye. iPhone le aye the yeh log. 😅
Indian main problem track china built new tracks we need to make new tracks as well
If you wish to reject anything you will have plenty of reasons for😊.
if talgo has low pass. capacity, they could have used them on trains with low occupancy.
Modi Ji's cemo was most unexpected 😂
🎉
Subscribing because of Modi's request
btw jo wheels doh bogey pe laga hua ta telgo ka woh accident hone k time kam impact krta rather than ICF earlier coach jo upar niche ho jata he
How thoughtful of the govt, they already took in consideration the accidents to occur and lives to be lost in the future and reject the above metro . So they can easily reuse the wheels or bogeys or whatever. 🎉😂
You just tried to explain multiplier effect 😅😅😅
Because public wanted actual Bullet trains 😈
Indian trains with LHB coaches run at 130 kph on main line routes while the Gatimaan express runs at 160 kph. Talgo coaches were tested at a top speed of 180kph with a WDP4 diesel locomotive on the Delhi Agra route and at 150 kph on the Delhi Mumbai route behind a WAP5 locomotive and so please correct your data. Otherwise excellent ...
Sahi kiya... Kyuki idhar to har dusre din marammat aur accident hota hai.....kul milakar apne shortcomings ke karan nahi istemal hua
Modi ji vote system is converted to subscribe system 😅
Maine dekhi thi ye talgo train
I think we should cooperate with European train manufacturers for future trains
As long as they manufacture and maintain the train sets locally, there should be no problem.
Acha hua nahi aaya warna kuch peaceful community kahi jani wale log ispe pathar marte or pata nahi kya kya peaceful kaam karte or india ka naam spain ke liye bhi kharab karte 😊
hates off to Indian Railways n PM modi ji govt done greatest ever historic work.... Indian Railway must do project of installation of iron protective Bar fencing on both side of Railway track on all over states for safety n security of train from crossing of illegally animals n humans on track n also maintain train speed well''''''
Yarr ye to muje ghotala lag raha h lagta h company k sath milke gholtaa hua h ye sab cheez to koe Europe m khade khade bata sakta tha to ye india kyun ayee
Sirf coaches ko rakha jata hai to vo bahar nikal janeka risk nai hota kya??? Just curious.
Talgo indian train se advance lekin uska technology indian conditions ke hisab sahi nhin ta
0:37 ye sahi nehi hai aap PM ke video ka ek part apne channel ke liye use kar rahe ho😂
Ai sound of his is very weird 💀
2nd
Vande Bharat trains are not that good compared to Talgo. We should have bought few and manufactured rest under licence. Development is not reinventing the wheel. The reasons to reject Talgo were known before importing. Then why they were imported in first place?
What is this godi thumbnail put India's flag yar
Thumbnail 😂😂😂
RESULT- india got its own indigenous BANDE BHARAT train .
Talgo design is too bad. Also talgo trains are not safe. Too much accidents in Spain cause it cannot turn properly on curves.
Only reason is , afford nehi kar shakta indian railways
Jaha 3-4 month m major train accident hota hai, waha kya bullet train chalega?
These things could have been understood by just looking at the train specs sheet or technical presentation, worst case rail employees could have visited Spain. Why did they get a whole freaking train to India first! So wasteful!
#AskPT any update about Shaktipeeth highway
Rejected because of old technology offered with hefty financial offer...
Waah modiji waah 👏🏻
Aacha hua reject kiya tabhi thoo vande bharat moli
bhai muze hassi ati thi wap5+talgo
Semi high speed bhi nahi hai
does indian railways doesnt know this small things before testing it or are waiting for a youtube channel
Which things are u saying about ?
Ye modi ki awaz nhi hai😂😊😊
first of all indian trains are more spacious then european how wrong you can be
Yeh sab trail pta kiya inta toh koi first time mei dekhkr bta de
1st
Chips ka lo
Bhai ye bevekoofi thi humare railway officers ki. Jb unko pta tha ki single tender ve nikal nhi skte to eske trail ki permission di he q. Ye reason tha Jo telgo k employee apni train wapus leke chala gya.
Kam sa kam Indian Railway talgo train ke technology sa kuch to apna coach main implement karti