"Trees, Chainsaws, and the Visions of Paradise in J.R.R. Tolkien" by Tom Shippey
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- „Trees, Chainsaws, and the Visions of Paradise in J.R.R. Tolkien" by Tom Shippey.
From „J.R.R. Tolkien: The Man Behind The Lord of the Rings", held at The Arizona Center for Medieval and Renaissance Studies Symposium, 11/2/2002
This is great. For all the hype, the good stuff often doesn't have a lot of views.
Best stand up comedy I've ever watched.
The Grace of God, indeed. This guy is so funny and insightful.
Love you!!! Thank you, Sir!!!
LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE
Thank you for posting this!!
Happy to see this! It was shared on FB in the MythSoc group.
Sam is like Shakespeare: Making up poems, which he may or may not have derived from others..
Also, the "wood" (Shakespeare's "green world") is where England's persecuted Catholics found refuge when they were taxed almost to death and feared, well, death ... by execution. See for this Claire Asquith (Lady Oxford)'s "Shadowplay", which also shows the radical ways in which Shakespeare reworked the plays (Romeo and Juliet, Hamlet, Macbeth, Lear, and many others) he derived from other sources to tell the forbidden tale of these suffering "outlaws".
The "Wood", capital "W" can also represent the wood of the Cross. This would explain the seeming contradiction of the various (especially Catholic) writers' feelings toward it. We Catholics, and Christians, love the Cross. It is the means God used (uses) to open up the way to heaven for us. We are each called to embrace and carry our own crosses. But sometimes, when the crosses seem too heavy, too many, or too brutal, we may consider, with (Shakespeare's) Hamlet, taking up arms "against a sea (or a forest) of troubles, and, by opposing, end them."
Why the hard on, for dead Davids? Why not quote, Richard Roxburgh?! Or, James Legge!?!?!?!
But you have to cut down a tree to make a cross.
Incredibly entertaining!
To me, that does not seem like anti-trees, at all. In fact, it sounds more like Tolkien is saying that he agrees with trees killing people if said people killed trees before that. As Tom noted, once the trees were killed, the other trees became unkind. And naturally so. It sounds like Tolkien is saying, in fact, rightfully so! This would display even more Tolkien's deep love for trees. Indeed, Tolkien wrote in his letters that he cares for trees in the same way other people care for pets.
Worchestire poet: Tolkien. There you've got one.
This lecture should have a much greater publique. 15 ! Shame on you, Tolkien-afficionados...
8230 now.
Not worried at all. I live from day to day X
Funny and beautiful, pity that Tokien didn't write more poetry (and that he wasn't a psychological writer...)
he was a psychological writer, just expressed his philosophies of psychology through a mythological medium.
Did Tolkien, adapt songs, to put in LOTR? Or, are they original compositions?
Please list: in order of the prophetics.
One song, I like (and, am listening to, now:) czcams.com/video/Adz5pyPRCME/video.html
Won't play, "An error occurred. Please try again later." How much later?
Works now. Very worthwhile, too, and extremely witty.
Thanks!@@NuisanceMan
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