[TF2] Bad Weapon Academy: The Brass Beast

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  • čas přidán 2. 07. 2024
  • Ever seen a weapon and thought "How am I even supposed to use this piece of shit?" Don't worry. I'm here now.
    In which I stop ignoring this channel for a year straight and look at the big brass beasty boy.
    Rebalance Servers: badweaponrehab.tf/
    Twitter: / fsoas_​
    Patreon: / fishstickonastick
    Main Channel: / @fishstickonastick
    Discord - / discord
    Music used: Jojo's Bizarre Adventure Golden Wind OST - il vento d'oro
    Magnum Force - TF2 Soundtrack
    Pokemon Emerald OST (get it, because trumpets and the weapon is brass i'm a real comedian)
    0:00 Introduction
    2:45 Stats Breakdown
    5:29 Strategy
    6:44 Shotguns
    8:25 Melee
    8:56 Shotguns Continued
    10:57 MvM
    11:41 Potential Buffs and Conclusion
  • Hry

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  • @amanofnoreputation2164
    @amanofnoreputation2164 Před 3 lety +1791

    "The Brass Beast Heavy isn't just a sentrygun."
    Optimal Brass Beast Heavy strategy: become a symbiotic organism with an engineer.

    • @GIZMOGNOM3
      @GIZMOGNOM3 Před rokem +96

      Honestly I wish valve played more into this, actually seems interesting if the stats incoraged this playstyle

    • @harrisonmoore3841
      @harrisonmoore3841 Před rokem +29

      Become mobile sentry

    • @tbone2416
      @tbone2416 Před rokem +43

      The Brovy is real

    • @alex.g7317
      @alex.g7317 Před rokem +18

      “We have *come* for your dispensers”

    • @vivelespatat2670
      @vivelespatat2670 Před rokem +21

      Raises the 20% damage resistance to be active as soon as you are spun up, not when you are at 50% hp and raises the damage bonus to 25%
      If its the Sentry minigun, might as well go full ham on that gimmick

  • @sadfern0
    @sadfern0 Před 4 lety +5776

    4:03
    Now you see, the Brass Beast is designed that instead of you jumping around a corner and shredding, enemies jump around a corner and get shredded.

    • @gorilaogorila835
      @gorilaogorila835 Před 4 lety +427

      EXACTLY !!! omg.. It is so stupid when I heard ' oh I can't jump on and rev to kill. This is a bad weapon! ' . Like, as if that was all heavy is about. Try jumping around and shooting in the middle of a real war! Doesn't seem to work right ?
      With the brass beast you can't do this, you have to outposition the opponents. And that's how I play it. And I don't even need to use the shotgun in tandem.
      I agree the brass beast could be fixed but people play the game so stupidly that I always disagree with their arguments when hear them.
      I'm just taking it out my chest bro.

    • @soopcanwastaken
      @soopcanwastaken Před 3 lety +164

      Felipe Tony
      the way you say it, it sounds like playing BB heavy has a mental game similar to ct sided counter strike, requiring precise positioning in order to deal damage effectively. I think most heavies are just too stuck in the roots of the meta to enjoy other miniguns that drastically change playstyle, like the Brass Beast and Huo Long Heater.

    • @gorilaogorila835
      @gorilaogorila835 Před 3 lety +92

      @@soopcanwastaken yeah. I don't have experience with counter strike, but you're right. I think that positioning is a strategy that is necessary for the heavy with any minigun since he is slow. The brass beast only takes it to the extreme.

    • @TheBigSad8247
      @TheBigSad8247 Před 3 lety +69

      So... Like a sentry

    • @eventerminator1382
      @eventerminator1382 Před 3 lety +13

      Just time the rev exactly when you get around the corner.

  • @swifter46ter
    @swifter46ter Před 3 lety +6835

    Fun fact: in x10 servers you are literally a sentry.

    • @jargozle5393
      @jargozle5393 Před 3 lety +849

      If you can rev it up

    • @Niiue
      @Niiue Před 3 lety +710

      @@jargozle5393 you become practically invincible below 50% hp if you have a medic. aside from spies.

    • @jargozle5393
      @jargozle5393 Před 3 lety +388

      @@Niiue yeah 10x stock knife spies

    • @jargozle5393
      @jargozle5393 Před 3 lety +150

      @@Niiue or kunai

    • @Sci_X1
      @Sci_X1 Před 3 lety +155

      But is the damage buff now 200%

  • @theeagleunion2949
    @theeagleunion2949 Před 3 lety +3299

    You’re not just the sentry, you’re the whole nest

    • @Mute14_
      @Mute14_ Před 3 lety +86

      and they are not clowns; they are the entire circus.

    • @eeeeeeee4968
      @eeeeeeee4968 Před 3 lety +89

      You can literally heal as fast as a dispenser the only thing is ammo

    • @cosmic7972
      @cosmic7972 Před 3 lety +54

      @@eeeeeeee4968 he's not just the nest he's the entire 2fort server

    • @frostag4821
      @frostag4821 Před 3 lety +6

      damn you Edgeworth

    • @jakey6274
      @jakey6274 Před 2 lety +7

      (Turns into teleporter)

  • @sirloin7667
    @sirloin7667 Před 3 lety +2557

    brass beast isnt BAD, its just the meta makes it bad since "oh you cant rev around a corner" (despite this CLEARLY being a huge "dont get on my point" weapon)

    • @smile_interactive5823
      @smile_interactive5823 Před 3 lety +208

      I’ve jump reved into power class-medic combos and just, won with the brass beast.

    • @macabweu7682
      @macabweu7682 Před 3 lety +165

      Exactly. It's not bad. It's a little underwhelming. I would replace the current Lower Rev up time, and speed reduction, with simple No Overheal or Reduced Overheal. And have the damage resistance be when you're revved up.

    • @Ninjat126
      @Ninjat126 Před 3 lety +97

      Massive, MASSIVE area denial. Shifting you off a point requires a manpower advantage or a sniper/spy instant kill.

    • @dom-hx7ki
      @dom-hx7ki Před 2 lety +48

      @@puppieslovies if i may?
      The brass beast itself has an odd spinup time yes but everytime i look at this weapon i cant help but think this is supposed to be a hard plant defense weapon. It reminds me so much of what the original gatling gun (old minigun from 1900's i think.). Once you had it planted you werent moving the damn thing for a while and the rev up time is also accurate in a sense, cause the brass beast is a look from the gatling gun that most older military's used way back then.

    • @foreskingamer7349
      @foreskingamer7349 Před 2 lety +4

      Its one of the best weapons in mvm

  • @noahhorner231
    @noahhorner231 Před 4 lety +1903

    Ah, the brass beast. I call this thing the sentry buster for a reason. At full rev, you can out-damage and outlast a level 3 in head a on 1 vs 1 fight. Sentry nest set up on top of the bridge on 2fort? Brass beast time.

    • @perdomy
      @perdomy Před 4 lety +113

      That's assuming the engineer isn't going to be constantly healing it

    • @michelecastellotti9172
      @michelecastellotti9172 Před 4 lety +118

      @@perdomy or using the wrangler, keep in mind that it gives the sentry a shield

    • @NuclearNuke41
      @NuclearNuke41 Před 4 lety +10

      Unless there is a person defending it.

    • @obsidianop9802
      @obsidianop9802 Před 4 lety +10

      Octoheavy: YOU UNDERESTIMATE MY POWER

    • @uiopuiop3472
      @uiopuiop3472 Před 4 lety +1

      Mechanical Menace reference??????!

  • @Red-mg4ro
    @Red-mg4ro Před 3 lety +2740

    "A lot of [engineers] are growing B R A I N S."
    What the hell kind of pubs are you playing in?

    • @TheGreatestWorldFox
      @TheGreatestWorldFox Před 3 lety +132

      The ones found manually via a legacy server browser.

    • @gemstonegynoid7475
      @gemstonegynoid7475 Před 3 lety +267

      Ever since uncle Dane gave cooperative engineering tips I've been seeing temporary engies upgrading teleporters for the regular engies its wholesome

    • @FranciumBoron
      @FranciumBoron Před 3 lety +79

      @@gemstonegynoid7475 I've done that before. I see a bloody Level 1 Tele, so I quickly switch to Engie and get it up to 3, then go about my rounds.

    • @eh2587
      @eh2587 Před 3 lety +5

      Timestamp?

    • @thicboibigsmoke7220
      @thicboibigsmoke7220 Před 3 lety +37

      @@gemstonegynoid7475 I always do that, it’s common etiquette

  • @oldstoffire
    @oldstoffire Před 3 lety +324

    "This is called the beast for a reason. It's just waiting to be unchained and let loose."
    Great line

  • @marcosbravo9645
    @marcosbravo9645 Před 4 lety +352

    12:00
    That scout at close range lasting a freaking nanosecond against the beast.

    • @sultan4d169
      @sultan4d169 Před rokem +13

      I need sfm meme where scout shoots heavy and he starts slowly turn to him with concrete sounds

    • @lolzers7986
      @lolzers7986 Před 10 měsíci +11

      he was shredded before his nervous system could even register the pain from having 30 large caliber bullets inside his chest

  • @JCBro-yg8vd
    @JCBro-yg8vd Před 4 lety +2210

    Ironically, The Brass Beast is considered to be really good in Mann v Machine. And I've seen some Heavies in other modes use The Brass Beast effectively.

    • @joshgab7827
      @joshgab7827 Před 4 lety +227

      i mean you dont really need to move too much in mvm, as the heavy you will either be frontlines with the medic or back up near the engine's dispenser, the movement speed downsides aren't as crippling in mvm as it is in normal game. you also get 20% more dmg which is very useful

    • @JCBro-yg8vd
      @JCBro-yg8vd Před 4 lety +115

      @@joshgab7827 Yup. The Natascha is also much more effective in Mann v Machine, because of the same reasons. It's a question of whether you want to deal more damage, or slow down the enemies. Both can work in normal TF2, but they're mostly good for defensive situations where you don't plan to move or push. For offense, the stock mini-gun or the Tomislav works better.

    • @joshgab7827
      @joshgab7827 Před 4 lety +21

      @@JCBro-yg8vd now the thing is if you have extra, and I mean EXTRA cash you can get knockback rage. If you learn to use this correctly thats a bunch of help against uber medics

    • @ViceN53X
      @ViceN53X Před 4 lety +8

      Thanks to the damage boost, it can take down tanks a lot faster once you max the fire rate

    • @wyattpolaska9070
      @wyattpolaska9070 Před 3 lety +5

      @@ViceN53X miniguns deal less damage to tanks

  • @wotwott2319
    @wotwott2319 Před 3 lety +507

    12:00 Scout regrets his life decisions.

    • @TheWither129
      @TheWither129 Před 2 lety +66

      fucking atomized lmao

    • @-megawolf-805
      @-megawolf-805 Před 2 lety +14

      This made me laugh much harder than it should, lmao.

    • @2fort
      @2fort Před 2 lety +19

      reduced to atoms

    • @theblueststarburst6851
      @theblueststarburst6851 Před 2 lety +37

      He was so confident that he was not using a brass beast he just stood there and died due to his foolishness.

    • @testgamer571
      @testgamer571 Před rokem +24

      scouts do like to run into sentries huh?

  • @LePLusCoolDesCools
    @LePLusCoolDesCools Před 3 lety +93

    This weapon is basically "Your strengths are doubled, but so are your weaknesses. You gain twice the fun but also twice the pain that Heavy usually provides"

  • @demfrodegroot7596
    @demfrodegroot7596 Před 4 lety +2029

    Personally I feel like they should give the beast an accuracy bonus. Make you a real sentry and be able to actually hit enemies at long range to make up for you practically being practically glued to your spot.
    Yes it kinda rips off the tomislav, but it has so many unique traits that I don't think it could hurt to lose one.

    • @vorpalweapon4814
      @vorpalweapon4814 Před 4 lety +63

      That sounds like a good idea for a buff.

    • @WHOARETHEPATRIOTS475
      @WHOARETHEPATRIOTS475 Před 3 lety +117

      I think it's a terrible idea, buffs should either increase a weapon's punishment to the player for playing too foolishly, or decrease a weapon's punishment to it's player depending on whether the weapon is too op or not, that way the weapon's intended play style is intact whilst being more fair than in it's previous iteration. (RiP baby face blaster)
      Your accuracy buff doesn't answer the weapon's real problem, which is the fact that it's too bloody slow, I'd say instead of buffing it's accuracy we buff it's rev speed.

    • @pikapika7566
      @pikapika7566 Před 3 lety +31

      I kinda disagree I think the tomi should have be the accurate minigun and the trash beast’s damage up already compensates for long range

    • @hajimehinata5854
      @hajimehinata5854 Před 3 lety +140

      @@pikapika7566 Be respectful to the Brass Beast.

    • @janemaria8912
      @janemaria8912 Před 3 lety +90

      @@pikapika7566 why not lessen the damage fall off from the minigun it might not constantly hit targets from afar but when it does it can still deal a ton of punishment

  • @Taifun_TV
    @Taifun_TV Před 4 lety +1520

    YES!! YOU'RE ALIVE!!

  • @cheezkid2689
    @cheezkid2689 Před 3 lety +180

    On a last-point hold, it's great to mention that the Dalokohs Bar pairs amazing with this. It brings the half health resistance to 175 whilst using it, and you're basically invulnerable while being healed by a level 3 dispenser or a medic.

    • @Spanishdog17
      @Spanishdog17 Před rokem +1

      This is mostly true, but the Dalohks Bar doesn’t stack with Medic’s overheal.

    • @headcrab4
      @headcrab4 Před 11 měsíci +19

      @@Spanishdog17 Overheal doesn't exceed 450, but what he's saying is the damage resistance kicks in sooner due to the increased max health. You're resisting more frequently!

    • @Uranium-jj7le
      @Uranium-jj7le Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@Spanishdog17 IIRC Dalokohs Buff Stacks with QF Overheal but not Medigun Overheal

  • @TheShadyBoi
    @TheShadyBoi Před 3 lety +215

    Brass beast is unironically my favorite minigum
    Being a tank heavy with the dalakos or having a good flank with this fucker is amazing
    Amazing for heavies main job which is being a defensive tank
    All this thing needs is like more resistance and maybe a knock back resistance buff
    One of my friends also suggested crit resistance under 50% health

    • @charliefike5709
      @charliefike5709 Před 3 lety

      It’s broken

    • @Breakaway-ic5gj
      @Breakaway-ic5gj Před 2 lety +8

      +20% accuracy would be good

    • @manologamerss5801
      @manologamerss5801 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Breakaway-ic5gj No, actually I think giving it a -20% accuracy and removing the damage bonus for a +50% firing speed bonus would be better, so it becomes more of a reverse Tomislav than it already is.

    • @Breakaway-ic5gj
      @Breakaway-ic5gj Před 2 lety +19

      @@manologamerss5801 Than it wouldn't do shit at long range and not be fast enough to get close to anyone at close range

    • @manologamerss5801
      @manologamerss5801 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Breakaway-ic5gj Would it though? Would it? A 50% firing rate bonus is hefty, and with only a 20% dps bonus the Brass Beast already outdamages the Tomislav at mid to long ranges, so it's not that bad, but when it comes to Giants it would be brutal. 50% higher DPS than stock would get just ridiculous.

  • @sigmundfreud7903
    @sigmundfreud7903 Před 4 lety +219

    Brass beast is the quintessential weapon of choice for the “Heavy-On-Kart” meta. Back when it had a 20% resistance regardless of health on it, made Kritzkrieg pockets a terror to deal with.

    • @gorilaogorila835
      @gorilaogorila835 Před 4 lety +1

      Exactly !

    • @PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth
      @PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth Před 2 lety

      Why'd they nerf that?

    • @notalive5479
      @notalive5479 Před 2 lety +16

      ​@@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth No idea. I'll go through some math and decide on an answer afterwards (This very quickly became a long-winded comment brainstorming how effective a Brass Beast Heavy would be before the nerf, so apologies for the length).
      Not Brass Beast:
      300 (no bonuses)
      350 (Dalokohs bar)
      450 (max overheal)
      Post nerf Brass Beast
      337 (150 x 1.2 = 180, 180 + 150 = 330, ignoring excess damage)
      385 (175 x 1.2 = 210, 210 + 175 = 385, ignoring excess damage)
      495 (225 x 1.2 = 270, 270 + 225 = 495, ignoring excess damage and healing)
      Pre nerf Brass Beast
      360 (300 x 1.2 = 360)
      420 (350 x 1.2 = 420)
      540 (450 x 1.2 =540)
      Obviously, pre nerf Brass Beast actually got really fucking beefy, but combined with healing his beefiness reaches new heights. Because damage resistance makes existing health count for more instead of adding more health, healing counts for more as well. A level 3 dispenser provides 20 health per second, but since the Brass Beast makes each hit point count for 1.2 instead of 1, he actually gets 24 health per second. Healing from a Medic during combat counts for 28.8 instead of 24. Put more simply, on top of having an effective 20% more health, he has an effective 20% increased health regeneration, so long as damage is taken while he is revved up.
      Lets compare a Not Brass Beast Heavy (NBBH) with a pocket medic and full overcharge vs a Brass Beast Heavy (BBH) with pocket medic and full overcharge in a 5 second duel.
      NBBH 450 + 24 x 5 =570
      BBH 540 + 28.8 x 5 = 684
      As can be seen here, an overcharge BBH with 5 seconds of healing demolishes the poor overcharge NBBH with 5 seconds of healing, holding a 114 health advantage. In fact, an overcharge BBH has 18 more effective health than an overcharged NBBH with 3 seconds of healing time (450 + 24 x 3 = 522).
      Moving on to how effective the BBH would be against the common threat.
      The BBH getting 60 increased health already allows a BBH to survive 3 pipes and 3 Scout max ramp-up meatshots, so it is already quite tough. However, the Dalokohs bar makes things interesting.
      Overall, the pre nerf Dalokohs BBH (DBBH) ends up in a very awkward health position such that they are nearly impossible to kill 1v1. 420 effective health means that 4 consecutive pipes will fail to kill a DBBH (20 health left), 4 consecutive rockets require max damage ramp up to kill a DBBH (without ramp up DBBH will have 60 health left), a Scout requires 4 max ramp-up meatshots to put down a DBBH (damage is exact, so if one pellet misses the Scout needs an extra shot). DBBH will survive 3 base damage sticky bombs with 60 health to spare, while an Overcharged BBH (OBBH) will survive 4 with 60 health to spare. An OBBH can tank 4 Direct Hit rockets (without damage ramp up OBBH will have 108 health left), and with any amount of healing the OBBH will survive a 5th. An OBBH can survive 5 scattergun max ramp-up meatshots with 15 health to spare. Not even a Sniper is 100% effective anymore, since a DBBH can tank 2 quickscope headshots with 60 health to spare, and can tank a third if they hide to Dalokohs heal, while an OBBH can survive even a Machina headshot if they have full health. Random crits and backstabs are the only thing seriously threatening a BBH in a 1v1 environment anymore.
      After considering all of this, I guess can understand the change. A DBBH with up to 342 DPS at mid range and up to 618 DPS at close range without any healing support is getting a little too hard to dislodge (420 effective health + 120 effective Dalokohs bar healing every 9 seconds), while an OBBH is almost unfair (540 health effective + 28.8 effective H/S + 240/360 effective burst healing every 10/30 seconds). Direct attacks on a DBBH are impossible for anything but a really good Scout or another Heavy, and while dislodging one is a little easier if you use corners to your advantage, it is still a needlessly time consuming and difficult prospect. In team fights he's a little more vulnerable, but the DPS a BBH brings combined with how much effort is required to remove him alone gives a decisive advantage to the team that has him (Spies could work wonders, but with a good Pyro that tactic isn't reliable).
      Of course, I could be wrong. But this is where the math has brought me.

    • @DBArtsCreators
      @DBArtsCreators Před 2 lety +7

      @@notalive5479
      You are on the money; Brass Beast was nerfed to have the more restricted damage resistance because, as it was before, you could tank sniper shots and overall fucktons of damage if anything was actively healing you, especially if you had an ammo source (like a nearby crate or a dispenser/payload cart). You basically became a super sentry that didn't need to be actively repaired or reloaded that was able to move & accomplish objectives, demanding multiple enemies focus you down (making them vulnerable to everyone else on your team).

  • @drednoughtship2261
    @drednoughtship2261 Před 4 lety +240

    12:00 that scout was just literally swept away XD

    • @MemeMuseum23
      @MemeMuseum23 Před 4 lety +39

      Holy shit, he got erased from the universe

    • @walterheisenbergwhite6034
      @walterheisenbergwhite6034 Před 3 lety +20

      Yeah. That's what happens when you hold a choke with this weapon while defending.

    • @Underworlder5
      @Underworlder5 Před 3 lety +23

      @@walterheisenbergwhite6034 also what happens when a scout stands still while fighting a heavy

  • @Ludwig_Perpenhente
    @Ludwig_Perpenhente Před 3 lety +423

    This can Outdamage all of Heavy's Minigun
    If you can make it into battle

    • @lianglianggoh2753
      @lianglianggoh2753 Před 2 lety +3

      before a spy kills you and you have to get back into there.

    • @ghostchill2722
      @ghostchill2722 Před 2 lety +18

      Isn't that what the gloves of running urgently are for? I don't see any reason why anyone should keep it Revved while going across the map.

    • @Spookoffi
      @Spookoffi Před 2 lety +17

      It doesn't slow you down passively, only slows you when revving up

    • @minchai2943
      @minchai2943 Před 2 lety +1

      Is better for enemy come to you preferably near battle where enemy may pop up into your range

    • @Artician
      @Artician Před 2 lety +5

      Teleporter + Gloves of Running Urgently

  • @Izunundara
    @Izunundara Před 3 lety +51

    The Spy dancing into view and then just immediately getting blown the fuck away got me so good

  • @phantomaviator1318
    @phantomaviator1318 Před 4 lety +169

    The Brass Beast was made to be fired from a stationary position as an AAA gun.

    • @bluish5189
      @bluish5189 Před 3 lety +17

      I'm pretty sure the true AA gun is the natasha although the brass beast is more of a AT gun

    • @duncanchillake8024
      @duncanchillake8024 Před rokem

      What the hell does AAA, AA or AT mean

    • @eMercody
      @eMercody Před rokem +2

      @@duncanchillake8024 AA is anti air, AAA is anti air artillery, and AT is anti tank.

    • @duncanchillake8024
      @duncanchillake8024 Před rokem +1

      @@eMercody ahh thanks man. I am guessing this makes natascha an AA and AAA weapon.

    • @mcstabman5638
      @mcstabman5638 Před 4 měsíci

      It's more akin to an "Anti-thisfuckingdirection" gun

  • @ludwigiapilosa508
    @ludwigiapilosa508 Před 4 lety +181

    I use it with the Dalokos bar and the Bread Bite (GRU). Dalokos makes up for some of the gru health drain and gives you the 20% damage resistance at higher health. You use both to move to and get set up at each new ambush location. Frontier is a great map for that.

    • @jonebebander6208
      @jonebebander6208 Před 3 lety +8

      And also when low health, and chocolate is not enough, you can run for health faster with the gru. Personally i like using kgb. (No joke i like using it with brass beast and chocolate.

  • @thefrogger6507
    @thefrogger6507 Před 3 lety +53

    I feel like, since it's based on an old timey Gatling gun, it could actually have fire rate build up over a few seconds instead of the crippling slow spin up

  • @Ninjat126
    @Ninjat126 Před 3 lety +31

    "When you use this weapon, you need to invalidate its weaknesses."
    Pretty solid general advice that works for most "bad" weapons.

  • @cz-kick
    @cz-kick Před 3 lety +358

    My team: why do you keep using the brass beast?
    Me: cause it's easy, and it does a lotta damage
    Also the brass beast always has been and always will be my favorite minigun

  • @itsjustaclint8404
    @itsjustaclint8404 Před 4 lety +370

    Why is CZcams recommending me videos that I'm in...
    This is now really really really concerning.

  • @SavageGreywolf
    @SavageGreywolf Před 3 lety +35

    I feel like the Brass Beast is one of those weapons that isn't actually BAD, it's just people don't bother to learn how to play it. Also yes it is a MvM fist of god.

    • @osiristhefallen8554
      @osiristhefallen8554 Před 2 lety +4

      I literally can stomp a heavy medic or lvl 3 sentry being repaired or wrangled using just the brass beast from the sheer damage it outputs. Imo its important to run with a shotty to make up for the slow spinup in close quarters and isnt always the best for offense due to your slow speed and its not great for long ranged damage but long range crits usually do the job on light classes thinking their out of range (random crits or kritzktieg ofc).
      I usually either run beast or stock but natascha and tomi are good aswell

  • @fortnitesexman
    @fortnitesexman Před 3 lety +75

    "Coolest looking primary"
    Hue-long heater: *sad noises*

    • @Emrirwastaken
      @Emrirwastaken Před 2 lety +5

      i mean, huo long heater looks like its made of wood and yet it shoots flames?

    • @Breakaway-ic5gj
      @Breakaway-ic5gj Před 2 lety +5

      @@Emrirwastaken From what I have heard originally Huo Long Heater was gonna shoot Fireworks, and it's magazine was gonna be like a basket
      It should've been like a sustained fire rocket launcher but has spin up and limited mobility

  • @sevkips4952
    @sevkips4952 Před 4 lety +219

    Me and my friend thought of a new meme strategy
    Hamon Heavy:
    A group of heavies with stock fists and steak and one vaccinator medic

    • @odeioenzos
      @odeioenzos Před 2 lety +20

      Its the "suicide hoovie" strategy
      Any primary
      Steak
      Warrior's spirit
      Eat le steak, run into le enemy, die painfully

    • @samuelfvalim7418
      @samuelfvalim7418 Před 2 lety +1

      @@odeioenzos I love your name tho

    • @odeioenzos
      @odeioenzos Před 2 lety

      @@samuelfvalim7418 chad bic melhor que qualquer bostinha faber castell

    • @f1shyspace
      @f1shyspace Před 2 lety +1

      @@odeioenzos based

  • @richardwatson1254
    @richardwatson1254 Před 4 lety +578

    Next weapon: Bison? Shortstop? Caber?

    • @As567na
      @As567na Před 4 lety +20

      Bison sounds good

    • @junkyardbronze3531
      @junkyardbronze3531 Před 4 lety +7

      Bison it is

    • @abandonedaccountlel7605
      @abandonedaccountlel7605 Před 4 lety +71

      Shortstop isn't that bad. Compared to the sun on a shit and back scatter, it's no where close to bad.

    • @mint8503
      @mint8503 Před 4 lety +11

      @@abandonedaccountlel7605 the back scatter is not that bad either, it's just not worth it

    • @muhammadfashhanp.1665
      @muhammadfashhanp.1665 Před 4 lety +5

      tbh caber is kind of fun to use

  • @a.k8185
    @a.k8185 Před 3 lety +53

    The brass beast isnt a bad weapon,just focus on camping around a corner and waiting for the enemy to come to you.

    • @mising7305
      @mising7305 Před 2 lety +9

      And get kick for been afk or doing nothing

  • @Saini16014
    @Saini16014 Před 3 lety +62

    I feel personally attacked in that intro because I have 30 hours on the game and I thinked it was the best mini gun in the game

  • @Cishsun
    @Cishsun Před 3 lety +54

    "You'd expect to see on a gibbus heavy who's been playing for like, 30 hours." Wow, you described me perfectly, and I used the brass beast.

    • @2fort
      @2fort Před 2 lety +6

      I joined while smissmas, got the smissmas sweater, made me a brass beast because it soumded cool and deleted anyone that came to close to me on wutville. I love that thing.

  • @ib4361
    @ib4361 Před 4 lety +185

    i just realised you only have 300 subs, whoa dude, with this quality you deserve atleast 200k

  • @richardtan4844
    @richardtan4844 Před 3 lety +95

    Brass heavies: exist
    Snipers: H E L O

    • @maison8822
      @maison8822 Před 3 lety +26

      To be fair heavies are already giant targets for Snipers no matter what minigun they use

    • @dd6742
      @dd6742 Před 3 lety +1

      @@maison8822 well, atleast in the other miniguns you can maybe escape? Tho you're still likely to die.

    • @the866-sushi
      @the866-sushi Před 3 lety +5

      Brass heavies: exist
      Bot snipers: O H N O
      Seriously, the brass beast is a beast against bots

    • @LunarSolar86
      @LunarSolar86 Před 3 lety +1

      @@the866-sushi with a vac medic or stock uber, yes. without a medic, you're fucked against any sniper
      unless its me

    • @Emrirwastaken
      @Emrirwastaken Před 2 lety

      @@dd6742 i mean.. if youre running away you arent gonna be revved up

  • @hggoleg8347
    @hggoleg8347 Před 3 lety +109

    I love how Jerma and star are still known for playing tf2

  • @SomeOne-gs7sy
    @SomeOne-gs7sy Před 4 lety +13

    It also turns into an unstoppable powerhouse when the dalokahs bar is consumed.

  • @winklermann
    @winklermann Před 4 lety +118

    Seeing Star/Ster and Jerma in a video, so cool :)

  • @Chaud31423
    @Chaud31423 Před 3 lety +26

    Here's an idea, what if the weapon gave you incredible resistence when facing towards someone?
    But from the sides (and maybe even worse at the back) you have no resistance or worse

  • @deal5769
    @deal5769 Před rokem +5

    0:01 me when NNN is over

  • @dustydog.
    @dustydog. Před 4 lety +175

    JoJo: Golden Beast
    Heavy experience requiem

  • @TigerKirby215
    @TigerKirby215 Před 4 lety +5

    I actually really like the chocolate bar with the Brass Beast. If you're really hunkered down on defense the chocolate can give you more of a buffer against spam, especially since the damage resistance comes into play faster. You can actually survive a headshot with the BB and the chocolate unless the shot is flat out 100% charged. Eating chocolate in the corner can also compensate for not having healing on-hand, since it'll be faster than respawning.

  • @hoothoot7122
    @hoothoot7122 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Y’all just aren’t ready for the disciplinary action brass beast team up, add the conch and you’re laughing

  • @TheSniperpal
    @TheSniperpal Před 2 lety +9

    So i tried this out yesterday. The Beast, the family business and the fists of steel. It worked out quite well! Being able to choose exactly when and where you use the brass beast instead of relying solely on it works wonders!

  • @Ze_N00B
    @Ze_N00B Před 4 lety +83

    I have always been a brass beast main and I totally agree with zhis video, but I must say zhat zhe holiday punch and dalokohs work well too. ANY lunchbox item along side brass beast allows you to not just be zhe sentry, but also zhe dispenser. And zhe holiday punch is one of if not zhe most powerful melee weapon for heavy. It allows you to stun enemies, EVEN WHEN ZHEY'RE UBERED, allowing you to even counter ubered heavies as you'll waste zheir uber, have plenty of time to rev up, and also have zhe advantage of zhe dalokohs where you can have more health zhan a stock heavy. Zhis is more of zhe defensive playstyle you mentioned. However zhis is an AMAZING offensive alternative if I do say so myself.

    • @FelipeJaquez
      @FelipeJaquez Před 4 lety +3

      I've stopped enemy pushes with a suicide laugh punch on the medic or his healing target
      Its funny

    • @someonestolemyname
      @someonestolemyname Před 4 lety +1

      As a former scout main, I cannot agree more as I can make more use of my map knowledge for melee.

    • @devlintaylor9520
      @devlintaylor9520 Před 3 lety +2

      Oksana is my favorite minigun

    • @rockeater5580
      @rockeater5580 Před 3 lety +3

      Hey wait a minute.. medic cant use miniguns!

  • @EntropyExpirius
    @EntropyExpirius Před 2 lety +6

    My favorite thing about this series is that many of the weapons aren't even terrible, they are just niche and need that niche pointed out.

  • @whensomethingcriesagain
    @whensomethingcriesagain Před 2 lety +8

    The Brass Beast is the prime example of Heavy working well as a centerpiece player on a team, if you've got teammates willing to support you and keep the Snipers and Spies off your back, it takes away the biggest problem and increases your ability to be absolutely devastating

  • @BirdRaiserE
    @BirdRaiserE Před 3 lety +6

    The nice thing about standing next to a dispenser is you get infinite ammo, meaning you can constantly spycheck the area at long range

  • @MystralThunder
    @MystralThunder Před 3 lety +4

    9:48 *B R A I N S*

  • @DinnerForkTongue
    @DinnerForkTongue Před 3 lety +4

    6:15 Oh yes, they are, and very vocally so. And I think we know which archbishop we can thank for that...

  • @GhostXM9
    @GhostXM9 Před 3 lety +6

    I've found that it is extremely effective to just sit on top of the cart on attac. It completely negates the movement downside and you can just stay revved up so that's negated too. You get infinite ammo and it works as long as you can stay on the cart. When the enemy team takes the cart however, you should switch to any other minigun.

  • @user-dg1vm8fn6o
    @user-dg1vm8fn6o Před 3 lety +2

    This is a wonderful video and I really enjoyed it! The background music is carefully placed and really fits in, good job.
    There was a part where you talked about a certain scenario in dustbowl, but the clip shown was in a completely different map and conditions. In the future try to put clips that explain the audio! :)

  • @bruhbruh-us6gl
    @bruhbruh-us6gl Před rokem +3

    I think a simple accuracy buff like that of the Tomislav would make it better for the playstyle the weapon seems to be designed for. Also fits with the theme of the weapon

  • @thenerdbeast7375
    @thenerdbeast7375 Před 2 lety +4

    Given how much Big Joey has a shotgun fetish and is desperate for the Heavy to have a reason to use shotguns without memeing fat scout, I'm surprised he didn't think of this.

  • @jcpkill1175
    @jcpkill1175 Před 2 lety +2

    At a glance the boot & the ant analogy works pretty well for this. The brass beast is already really good at defense and survivability, adding the sandwich to that is just making a boot even bigger for killing the ant. The boot doesn't need to be that big it just needs to get the job done.

  • @llmkursk8254
    @llmkursk8254 Před rokem +2

    It’s funny coming back to this, because I think the Dalokohs has a bit of a say in here. The 50 health gives an extra buffer zone during the rev-up. While not a ton, it still gives that little bit of extra bulk, and even ups the half-health point to 175. It also really ramps-up the FoS resistances.

  • @shenglongli8387
    @shenglongli8387 Před 3 lety +6

    I honestly think this is one of the best weapons of the bad weapon academy

  • @stormreach1234
    @stormreach1234 Před 3 lety +3

    AAAH!
    The intro confused me cause I was just listening to il vento d'oro when I came over here and I thought CZcams had bugged out

  • @pearmint308
    @pearmint308 Před 3 lety +2

    9:42 i feel attacked

  • @justjoking5252
    @justjoking5252 Před 3 lety +1

    8:20
    I genuinely thought that video would be lost to time, but I'm so glad people still remember it.
    I'll never forget my contact lenses arriving.

  • @ikiry0830
    @ikiry0830 Před 3 lety +3

    Something else of note: The Brass Beast really benefits from teammate coordination. If you can get warning that people are heading your way without needing to have LOS, the rev-up time issue is much less of a concern. The enemy coming around a corner into a revved up brass beast is going to result in not much of a team very quickly.

  • @warrior1590
    @warrior1590 Před 4 lety +12

    Wow, feels like I discovered something before youtubers, then they took it and explained it in a more easy-to understand way. Wow :D

  • @quisquiliarum7710
    @quisquiliarum7710 Před 2 lety +2

    11:40
    HOLE IN ONE!

  • @roland.w
    @roland.w Před 4 měsíci

    I love your quips at the end of each video!
    It's a nice treat after you watch a video all the way to the end!
    No wonder you're the favorite of Eminem weapon reviews.

  • @BaconPuncakesX
    @BaconPuncakesX Před 3 lety +10

    real talk: the pokemon gen 3 soundtrack is unironically some of the best pieces of music ever in a pokemon game

  • @cheezkid2689
    @cheezkid2689 Před 4 lety +5

    The brass beast is surprisingly good, especially on defense or in MvM. It's good for defending last points in control points or attack defense. Combine it with a shotgun or the Dalokohs Bar, the Fists of Steel, a medic, a level 3, and a dispenser, it's one of the best defenses I've seen in my thousand hours of play.

  • @Mr.Monacle
    @Mr.Monacle Před 2 lety +1

    Okay so... totally unrelated to the video as a whole, but watching your videos always hits me with a fat slap of nostalgia because of the Pokémon music you use, honestly, I'm amazed more people don't use Pokémon music because it *universally* slaps, without being too distracting if you put it on in the background.

  • @thefighterfly9208
    @thefighterfly9208 Před 3 lety +2

    Honestly, after this video, the brass beast became one of my favorite of the miniguns, it's just so much fun

  • @br4ss_crusader973
    @br4ss_crusader973 Před 3 lety +7

    MvM: let me introduce myself

  • @muhammadammarrasyid5780
    @muhammadammarrasyid5780 Před 3 lety +3

    A sniper holding an angle is also being a sentry. A very long range one, but a sentry nonetheless. Conclusion : There is nothing wrong being a sentry.

  • @HermesSonofZeus
    @HermesSonofZeus Před 3 lety

    I think I've seen all of these now. This is actually a very good series!

  • @Sansmemelordover
    @Sansmemelordover Před 3 lety

    Your outro’s make me feel so invigorated!

  • @Jessie_Helms
    @Jessie_Helms Před 3 lety +3

    One different combo that’s great with the BB is the Dolokos Bar.
    Normally it gives you 50 HP, but with the BB’s bonus it effectively gives you 75 bonus HP, that’s half of a quick scope’s dmg.

  • @FighterDood
    @FighterDood Před 3 lety +6

    soundsmith's 3rd heavy plays: engineer

  • @bluesheepjoe5546
    @bluesheepjoe5546 Před 3 lety +2

    6:07 the moment you've been waiting for

  • @FelineDeskFan13
    @FelineDeskFan13 Před 3 lety +5

    5:25
    Fish: I’ve figured out the secret to this weapon”
    Me: bullshi-
    Fish: actually shows good tips and strats on how to use the damn thing
    Me: that crazy son of a bitch actually did it.

  • @tuckermatis1572
    @tuckermatis1572 Před 3 lety +6

    Idea to Fix the Beast:
    Introduce recoil to propel the Heavy backwards (like on eg. the Force-a-Nature). Calibrate this so that the Heavy's backward speed from the recoil (when not holding W or other keys) is about half the walk speed when revved up with a Stock Minigun.
    This would make the gun itself into a sort of mobility tool to counterbalance the crazy rev up time and slowdown when revved. You can achieve the Heavy's normal walk speed, but only when shooting directly away from the direction you want to go. This will force the Player to be really choosy about when, where, and at what they fire the thing, but with practice can use the extra mobility from the recoil to get in and out of situations as though they were walking with a regular Minigun. Naturally it'd still favor defensive positions, where say Heavy's back is against a wall or where retreating is more important than advancing, and make jump-revving and the like still a pain. Hopefully, though, it'd make the trade for increased damage at least more fair; what do you think?

  • @LapiTF2
    @LapiTF2 Před 4 lety +10

    HE'S BACK

  • @laowhb4393
    @laowhb4393 Před 3 lety +1

    10:14 after this 12 words the engeener number of players down to zero

  • @lawaern3474
    @lawaern3474 Před 3 lety +1

    5:30 None of us have figured this out? But there are hundreds of us!

  • @leobaker-tf2andmusic520
    @leobaker-tf2andmusic520 Před 4 lety +6

    i actually had made a loadout specificly for the brass beast
    Brass Beast
    The Choco Bar
    FOS

    • @peterisawesomeplease
      @peterisawesomeplease Před 3 lety

      The Choco Bar does pair really well. It increase the amount of health the damage mitigation while spun up applies to so you are actually getting a little more bang for your buck with that stat. But even though it works I just can't play heavy with any lunch box item anymore. Its just too boring. Adding a shotgun just ups the entertainment value of heavy so much. Especially when combined with the brass beast. The joy of hunting down demos with the shotgun and them acting suprised because they thought you were a sitting duck with the BB is just priceless.

    • @eh2587
      @eh2587 Před 3 lety

      Thats like the russian sentry loudot

  • @alexlokanin3312
    @alexlokanin3312 Před 4 lety +6

    this game hasn't been updated in so long that people are trying to make use of the bad weapons that need attention from the dev team. we have soundsmith's beggar's bazooka video, now this, also i see the classic in my recommendations, and i myself even started using the vaccinator instead of the stock medi gun

    • @miky9504
      @miky9504 Před 4 lety +4

      Are you for real saying the Beggar's is a bad weapon?

    • @DinnerForkTongue
      @DinnerForkTongue Před 4 lety +1

      > implying the Beggar's is bad

    • @alexlokanin3312
      @alexlokanin3312 Před 4 lety +1

      @@miky9504 see, now it's not considered trash

    • @juan_becerra
      @juan_becerra Před 3 lety

      Even after the nerf some time ago the beggars is still borderline broken, as some one who's been using it since it came out, and roughly 14k TF2 hours under my belt, I can safely tell you it's in a good place.
      My advice to you... don't believe everything you here on a CZcams channel, just because someone has youtube following doesn't automatically make them good, or an expert.

  • @cashaela1548
    @cashaela1548 Před 2 lety

    The nostalgia of the pokemon emerald OST, awesome video

  • @megatronman2783
    @megatronman2783 Před rokem

    And a very Happy Valentines Day to you Sunny!...another wonderful and spectacular animation ACLP!!!

  • @cellulanus
    @cellulanus Před 3 lety +4

    Honestly the shotgun strategy works decent with the normal minigun. I'm pretty sure sure your "Brass Beast secret strategy" is literally how a full stock heavy is supposed to be played too. Sure the minigun is great but a shotgun is a shotgun. If you get caught with your pants down as a heavy having the shotgun out for a quick reflex shot is usually better then waiting for the minigun to rev up. The shotgun might be completely overshadowed by the minigun in terms of raw power but the shotgun is still a shotgun.

  • @briishcabbage568
    @briishcabbage568 Před 3 lety +4

    Personally i belive The Brass Beast is great (in my experience) for King Of The Hill, especially ones like Harvest that have an enclosed, small space to rev up your BB.

  • @jontynorth7533
    @jontynorth7533 Před 3 lety

    This vid made me smile way more than I was expecting

  • @PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth

    Making it so the damage resistance is ALWAYS active, so long as your revved would be a good buff in my eyes.

  • @manmantuber
    @manmantuber Před 3 lety +10

    ☑ giorno's theme
    ☑ Jojo's reference
    ☑ cart defending
    *I like.*

  • @justcallmexen
    @justcallmexen Před 3 lety +3

    I just watched this again, and I was thinking, "what if the extra reduced speed only applied when firing?". Like you still go normal minigun heavy speed when revved up but when you actually shoot then your speed gets reduced even further to the current brass beast speed and maybe for a quarter second after letting go of the trigger so players can't just single click over and over to negate it.

    • @Techhunter_Talon
      @Techhunter_Talon Před rokem

      That wouldn't be a bad change for the weapon. Hell, considering the weapon does more damage than stock, the slowdown in speed while firing would give the sense that the weapon's recoil is slowing you down.

  • @unbanquackityishot327
    @unbanquackityishot327 Před 3 lety

    bro thanks for this, i got so much use of the brass beast

  • @sosecherofsky7985
    @sosecherofsky7985 Před 3 lety

    You really out here with this quality and 6k subs what a world

  • @dantesilva6894
    @dantesilva6894 Před 3 lety +4

    2:05
    ... well if i don't feel called out
    though i'll keep using the brass beast without fear of the enemy escaping because i only use heavy to kill myg0t bots

  • @Wet_Deer
    @Wet_Deer Před 4 lety +5

    I love when I’m on engineer and I have a heavy in my dispenser. It helps me keep my building safe to help my team

  • @Joe--biden
    @Joe--biden Před 2 lety

    Title:bad weapon acadamy
    Also Fish on a stick:litteriky shows that its goid af

  • @sotheofdaein
    @sotheofdaein Před 3 lety

    im glad im not the only one whose figured the shotgun trick out. the brass beast and the family business are my go tos as heavy.

  • @aedanpineda9109
    @aedanpineda9109 Před 4 lety +16

    You should do the claidheamh mòr for demo knight. I know its sort of reverted but that 15% still hurts

  • @kittyatomic0147
    @kittyatomic0147 Před 4 lety +7

    Hey man! I want to start editing my TF2 clips! What editing software do you use?

    • @screamsinrussian5773
      @screamsinrussian5773 Před 3 lety

      yea

    • @screamsinrussian5773
      @screamsinrussian5773 Před 3 lety

      I personally recommend premiere pro, has a lot of features and it isn't known for crashing like Vegas, also comes with a lot of tutorials

  • @ToxicBastard
    @ToxicBastard Před 3 lety +1

    Did Fish just recommend my 2nd favourite heavy loadout? Nice.

  • @PozerPie
    @PozerPie Před 2 lety +2

    I think adding a damage buildup, the longer you're revved up (with a max of 20% after 10 seconds. Or a damage meter like the banners could work too), would do good for the weapon, and removing the slowdown would balance this since you'd need to stay slowed down (and revved up) to get the full damage boost anyway.