The FASTEST SSD Technology Explained - M.2, U.2, and MORE

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  • M.2? AHCI? NVMe? With the knowledge in this video, you should be able to comfortably pimp out your storage setup to the next big thing.
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  • @Pienimusta
    @Pienimusta Před 7 lety +774

    That M.2 slot that leaves the drive just sticking up feels super sketchy.

    • @Svenz0r
      @Svenz0r Před 7 lety +26

      If you look there are screw holes either side that iirc are for mounting a support for the drive.

    • @RousedPotato
      @RousedPotato Před 7 lety +9

      It probably comes with (or you can get) a bracket for it.

    • @TheDaidai05
      @TheDaidai05 Před 7 lety +8

      was thinking the same thing. It looks ugly to me compared to the ones that lay down too

    • @Tatsumaru2005
      @Tatsumaru2005 Před 7 lety +4

      it has 1 tiny screw that holds it down at the end away from the connector. the drive is so lightweight it doesn't need any more than that

    • @aliancemd
      @aliancemd Před 7 lety +3

      I would like mine to be like that because NVMe gets very hot and it would help to cool it down.

  • @LazerLord10
    @LazerLord10 Před 7 lety +1033

    *Reads title
    Oh cool, a new TechQuickie video! Wait a minute
    "Uploaded by LinusTechTips"
    Huh.

    • @Lucifer3230
      @Lucifer3230 Před 7 lety +11

      Same thought came in My mind.

    • @kylenetherwood8734
      @kylenetherwood8734 Před 7 lety +4

      LazerLord10 That's why I miss AFAP

    • @Ph4tT0ny
      @Ph4tT0ny Před 7 lety

      Same

    • @YK-xw4nj
      @YK-xw4nj Před 7 lety +2

      That's what I exactly thought my friend.

    • @jesselioce
      @jesselioce Před 7 lety +6

      too much info to put in a techquickie video of 4 min

  • @MiniArts159
    @MiniArts159 Před 4 lety +126

    2015 Linus: SATA EXPRESS IS THE FUTURE
    2017: Lmao that shiz dead

  • @xxxdroidmonkeyxxx
    @xxxdroidmonkeyxxx Před 7 lety +1872

    A better explanation for this would be:
    - AHCI and NVME are like the middleman between your hardware and software. AHCI is a slow middleman (protocols) and NVME is a fast one.
    - Since they're just middlemen, they can work off of any connection, whether it's M.2, PCIE, or SATA (specifically in AHCI devices)
    - Some motherboards support both protocols, while others only support one of them for boot drives. If yours only supports AHCI for boot drives, no matter what you connect your NVME drive (PCIE or M.2 slot) it won't let you boot from it.
    - New motherboards support both protocols so you can connect the NVME drive anyway you want and it'll work at full speed and let you boot from it. So whether you get a PCIE M.2 device or an onboard one, you'll be fine.
    To sum it up. PCIE, M.2 and SATA are all just data highways.
    AHCI and NVME are the things that dictate how fast your "car" will be able to travel in any of those given highways if the country (the motherboard) allows that speed limit.
    I hope that helps better explain it to anyone who's confused.

    • @phaolo6
      @phaolo6 Před 7 lety +61

      The best explanation : )

    • @SixplusonemediaAu
      @SixplusonemediaAu Před 7 lety +22

      great explanation!

    • @morells09
      @morells09 Před 7 lety +16

      Superb explanation, thank you!

    • @max03tube
      @max03tube Před 7 lety +3

      Meow Thanks

    • @thiagofelipedeoliveira6979
      @thiagofelipedeoliveira6979 Před 7 lety +4

      Still, i have a doubt (Maybe a stupid doubt)
      AHCI, is for SATA HDD's? In this case, i've understand that NVME is the protocol for the SSD chips that Linus showed in the video, but AHCI i didn't get it as many people have understanded.

  • @The_RoboDoc
    @The_RoboDoc Před 7 lety +358

    The fastest SSD is as fast as linus in bed

    • @Tailslol
      @Tailslol Před 7 lety +14

      he is neutered no?

    • @linusmlgtips2123
      @linusmlgtips2123 Před 7 lety +9

      Tailslol someone didn't watch WAN show

    • @Red9419
      @Red9419 Před 7 lety +24

      He still has those man juices.

    • @Tailslol
      @Tailslol Před 7 lety +1

      i didn't used the right word because i m not a native English speaker,but you got the idea... but putting no with an interogation point at the end of a phrase is a key point here too...
      and yea wan shows are too long ...

    • @iota-09
      @iota-09 Před 7 lety +9

      he still has the balls, no worries about that.
      apparently the specific operation he did is also possible to be reset, as in, he can go back to how he was before if i understood correctly.
      still, are we really going to keep talking about linus balls for weeks?

  • @Onibaka
    @Onibaka Před 7 lety +2392

    I am more confused now...

    • @tbonenom3736
      @tbonenom3736 Před 7 lety +76

      I thought i knew basic PC tech, i got like 20% of all that in the video... Apparently i'm getting old. :(

    • @kenkalajdzic
      @kenkalajdzic Před 7 lety +12

      Aaron Luedemann There are already some NVMe drives on the market that aren't too expensive. Samsung 960 EVO for example has great performance and OK price. Upcoming (mid-february IIRC) WD Black SSD will be even cheaper - 200$ for 500GB.

    • @joshisnot11
      @joshisnot11 Před 7 lety +4

      I'll just stick with the 1TB 850 evo for a while. Thing is still around 300.

    • @nermanus
      @nermanus Před 7 lety +11

      I thought the same until I realized stuff in this video concerns maybe the 10% of tech literate people from the 1st World that have the extra cash for these types of hobbies. Most people will just go with a 1 to 2 TB HDD for storage and the cheapest 120 GB ADATA or Kingston SSD for OS.

    • @sandylie1655
      @sandylie1655 Před 7 lety +2

      i'm definitely not one of them since i will install os and games on them, and game is huge 20-60gb....

  • @JonIceInternational
    @JonIceInternational Před 7 lety +886

    I like this kind of videos. I don't understand anything, but I like it.

    • @elissitdesign
      @elissitdesign Před 6 lety +8

      I don't like to read comments but I read yours anyway.

    • @keifuchan7265
      @keifuchan7265 Před 5 lety +10

      These videos make me realize just how dumb I am....but I also don't even know just how dumb I am...make sense?

    • @ReyomHD
      @ReyomHD Před 5 lety +6

      @@keifuchan7265 Well hey, the more you watch the more you learn. So in a way, you are a little smarter at the end of each video.

    • @robmanabat8293
      @robmanabat8293 Před 4 lety

      Me too

    • @GumaroRVillamil
      @GumaroRVillamil Před 4 lety +2

      @@DihelsonMendonca this is basically my dad. He worked in IT since the 80's to the mid 2000's (He has printing business now). There were always computers in our house while growing up. He taught me how build my first PC. But he's a little lost now. I little while back I explained to him all the USB 3.XXX mess and this ssd stuff

  • @moodymann_nl1526
    @moodymann_nl1526 Před 5 lety +50

    I always get depressed because I don’t understand shit after a few minutes... and then thinking I’m doing everything wrong

  • @EpicLPer
    @EpicLPer Před 7 lety +719

    I'm currently building a PC and now I'm even more confused...

    • @coopercummings8370
      @coopercummings8370 Před 7 lety +67

      You will probably be fine with a sata ssd, nvme ssds can be much faster but the difference isn't nearly as noticable in most applications as the difference between a hdd and sata ssd. Nvme ssds are also much more expensive per gb than sata ssds of the same capacity, so most consumers that don't need the extra speed are better off sticking to sata until the price drops.

    • @EpicLPer
      @EpicLPer Před 7 lety +2

      Cooper Cummings Yeah, oh well... SATA SSDs are fast enough for me tbh but the next thing would also be the PCI lane speeds and such. Like, if I attach an "unsupported" or slower PCI device to a lane it'll drag down all others from what I understand. So what's the best place to put one then? And where for the GPU? I am so freaking confused even tho I'm an IT technician myself and should know it...

    • @coopercummings8370
      @coopercummings8370 Před 7 lety +7

      most z170 and z270 boards suppord ahci (sata protocol at sata speeds) and nvme (new protocol at pci express speeds) on their m.2 slots, and you just have to switch the mode in the bios, but for the best place to put them I haven't done too much looking at them because of their expense, but I have seen a few places find they will run cooler directly underneath an open air style gpu (because even though it is hot air being blown onto it it is some airflow over the device, but others say to put it as far from the gpu as possible to avoid the heat source. Every source I have seen says not to use a behind the motherboard m.2 slot if there is one on the front because there is better airflow, but the drives dont actually run over their temperature ratings without airflow, so it doesn't make much of a difference unless you put it next to a heat source with no airflow.

    • @mytten
      @mytten Před 7 lety +3

      If you only game, just go for a sata ssd ;)

    • @WhiteoutTech
      @WhiteoutTech Před 7 lety +10

      EpicLPer just put your gpu in your first pcie 16 slot, connect your sata drives to your sata connectors and if you really want to have 3000mb/s write speeds put your m.2 ssd in your m.2 motherboard slot. the video just makes it seem difficult. :P unless you use a motherboard from 2010 you can't really do anything wrong nowadays.

  • @eligrey
    @eligrey Před 7 lety +127

    You seem to have SATA and AHCI mixed up. SATA is a physical data transfer interface and AHCI is a storage protocol that can run over PCIe or SATA. There is no such thing as an AHCI-only M.2 slot, only PCIe or SATA.
    There are PCIe AHCI M.2 SSDs that will blow normal SATA drives out of the water, like the SM951.

    • @Uraveragegamer172
      @Uraveragegamer172 Před 7 lety

      Eli Grey I have an sm951, how does that stack up to other drives?

    • @_clemens_
      @_clemens_ Před 7 lety +7

      Your are totally right...they should fact check their videos better...the Ethernet video some while ago was also crap...

    • @kwarkon1
      @kwarkon1 Před 7 lety +8

      Yes, but to be exact, m.2 PCIe AHCI drive can connect only through PCIe lines directly CPU (it has its own AHCI controller) while m.2 SATA needs AHCI or SATA controller in between (usually build in PCH or on SATA -> PCIE adapters ). PCIe AHCI are not limited by SATA limitations so they can run much faster than SATA drives. NVME is a redesigned protocol that has lower latencies than ACHI.
      Please go to en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.2 and especially this diagram: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.2#/media/File:SATA_Express_interface.svg
      The adapter shown two slots has the lower slot for m.2 PCIE ( so both AHCI and NVME) and the upper slot is for M.2 SATA drives ( thats why there is a sata connector for SATA cable that you have to connect to have it working).
      The drive MZ-N5E250BW shown is a SATA drive.
      the difference between m.2 SATA and m.2 AHCI is expecially important in older laptops where often you have m.2 SATA support but not m.2 PCIe ( both AHCI and NVME).

    • @itsneight1260
      @itsneight1260 Před 7 lety

      Now that makes more sense as well... The Kingston HyperX Predator is also an example of this, right???

    • @_clemens_
      @_clemens_ Před 7 lety

      Yes but that's an PCIe 2.0 x4 drive

  • @erikcastro3431
    @erikcastro3431 Před 5 lety +11

    Much props Linus. Your explanation saved me from buying a slower M.2 SATA, and instead buying a much faster M.2 NVMe instead.

  • @EveryLittleThings
    @EveryLittleThings Před 7 lety +2

    Thank you Linus! You saved me so much time reading about them. And you consolidate all the into in one video! Kudos! Keep it up!

  • @god2172
    @god2172 Před 7 lety +131

    Who else is pooping while watching this?

  • @hole1stdrillpresschannel
    @hole1stdrillpresschannel Před 7 lety +89

    Time to learn something. Thank you!

    • @cyancoyote7366
      @cyancoyote7366 Před 7 lety +6

      I'm subscribed to you, but fucking hell, you're everywhere. Great channel tho :D

    • @hole1stdrillpresschannel
      @hole1stdrillpresschannel Před 7 lety +2

      Thank you coyote! But I'm not everywhere, just at good channels! :-)

  • @solomonshv
    @solomonshv Před 7 lety +436

    I really don't like U.2, their last few albums have been dreadful.

    • @lakechocolate9785
      @lakechocolate9785 Před 5 lety +3

      Lol 🤣

    • @shawncruz732
      @shawncruz732 Před 5 lety +25

      Well U2 doesnt like u 2.

    • @johnc3403
      @johnc3403 Před 5 lety +1

      last few, like since Rattle and Hum! They've been blagging it ever since...

    • @SkankHunt-rv8qo
      @SkankHunt-rv8qo Před 4 lety +3

      I dont like how they forced themselves into my Apple music library

    • @GJBedrin
      @GJBedrin Před 4 lety

      Has anyone ever actually liked them?

  • @JasonOFlaherty
    @JasonOFlaherty Před 7 lety

    Thank you for spelling it out in step by step plain English with visuals. It helps keep it all in order.

  • @elijah_9392
    @elijah_9392 Před 7 lety +160

    The reason this isn't a techquicky video is because it's 8 minutes long.

    • @christiandeuctor3606
      @christiandeuctor3606 Před 7 lety +30

      And the fact that it's uploaded on LinusTechTips.

    • @Thinker145
      @Thinker145 Před 7 lety +3

      The actual video minus the ads is just 7 minutes though kinda like all the LTT videos these days.

    • @bluefoxtv1566
      @bluefoxtv1566 Před 7 lety +1

      Remove the ad's and the dicking around and it would fit with in that window.

    • @TheZaman_
      @TheZaman_ Před 7 lety +1

      well you guys use adblocker.. instead only depend on google ads that you block they make ads in the videos.

    • @davidoke3909
      @davidoke3909 Před 7 lety

      Elijah _ no, its a guide, that's why

  • @benjaminoechsli1941
    @benjaminoechsli1941 Před 4 lety +3

    We need more videos like this. Videos explaining just what a term(s) means, and what it means for the end user.

  • @le4848
    @le4848 Před 7 lety +1

    Thanks Linus! You answered all the questions I had regarding m.2

  • @Ausskip87
    @Ausskip87 Před 7 lety

    dude your videos are great , I'm not much of a tech head but I get what you're you on about, you explain things well.. cheers

  • @joelmathew616
    @joelmathew616 Před 5 lety +7

    You're the only youtuber that I know of who explains complex tech terms and gets into tiny details
    This is my go to channel for gathering information or to increase my understanding about the various new tech and terms

    • @feynstein1004
      @feynstein1004 Před 5 lety

      Nah mate. Check out Explaining Computers. He does a much better job.

  • @laurensi1
    @laurensi1 Před 7 lety +17

    "I'm already confused": Yup

  • @saadsiddiqui9881
    @saadsiddiqui9881 Před 7 lety

    Oh my god why your every video sounds so good and it always has so much meaning , like every time there is new and amazing things to know about i love your videos

  • @SuperHolyWater_
    @SuperHolyWater_ Před 5 lety

    thank you so much man. you answered all my questions and more. im looking into upgrading the drive inside my kids inspirion 3050 and had no clue where to start on what type to get. this cleared it all up for me. i knew i subscribed to you for a reason!

  • @nbrikha
    @nbrikha Před 7 lety +19

    I was hoping for a performance review. I want a performance review. Why has it taken this long to compare the four or five M.2 sticks out there right now? Intel 600p, Samsung 960 Pro and Evo, Corsair MP500, and the OCZ RD400. Just like, a quick video on which is best value and best performance.

    • @nbrikha
      @nbrikha Před 7 lety +4

      There's also a value M.2 NVMe ssd on amazon that has amazing review but I've never of the company before. MyDigitalSSD BPX

    • @itsneight1260
      @itsneight1260 Před 7 lety +3

      Agreed! Dont forget about the Plextor drives though!
      I would also like to add in comparing the AHCI M.2 drives like the Kingston Predator, Samsung SM951, Adata XPG SX8000 (is that one nvme?) as well!

  • @blodstainer
    @blodstainer Před 7 lety +3

    Good to note: Pretty much *EVERY* ATX Z97, Z170 and Z270 Motherboard got M.2 slots. And I think you can even BIOS update a Z87 to support NVMe. Not sure about Z77 though

  • @007vsMagua
    @007vsMagua Před 7 lety

    I'm glad your covering this new storage format. Can't wait to hear more.

  • @jordansean18
    @jordansean18 Před 7 lety

    perfect timing!
    I only have a 2242 m.2 available for my laptop, so I'm deciding between using it or just keeping an external for supplemental use

  • @gaiustrollius9920
    @gaiustrollius9920 Před 7 lety +324

    I'll just sit here with my single 1 tb hdd.

    • @Joe-xb8bf
      @Joe-xb8bf Před 7 lety +7

      Gaius Trollius lucky, 480GB. its slow too, its like 4 or 5 years old.

    • @gaiustrollius9920
      @gaiustrollius9920 Před 7 lety +1

      Maybe a format will help.

    • @Fosi94
      @Fosi94 Před 7 lety +5

      +Joe check your sectors, do a defeag, fresh install os?

    • @Joe-xb8bf
      @Joe-xb8bf Před 7 lety

      Fosi94 its just the age

    • @bringitlp5177
      @bringitlp5177 Před 7 lety +3

      yeah got only 250gig ssd for games like bf1 fallout etc which got long load times other hit is on hdd and fuck off ppl who say mimimi long wait times ...meanwhile u can ....roll a joint,smoke some other shit,take a shit etc xD

  • @jdtechgear
    @jdtechgear Před 7 lety +308

    Did anyone else see the little bug @1:06?

  • @llamasplosion684
    @llamasplosion684 Před 7 lety

    iv been watching your videos over the past 2 years and i finally built my first pc the other day and these videos really helped me out thanks

  • @Kroeg
    @Kroeg Před 7 lety

    Love these information rich videos. You guys are ever improving on yourself!

  • @MrabEzreb
    @MrabEzreb Před 7 lety +68

    holy crap 522 views in less than a minute

    • @eduardonazario
      @eduardonazario Před 7 lety

      Mrab Ezreb i got 101 views here

    • @MrabEzreb
      @MrabEzreb Před 7 lety

      you got here earlier than me

    • @rocketlaunch99
      @rocketlaunch99 Před 7 lety

      Mrab Ezreb Most people have no life. Just like me.

    • @slickm7
      @slickm7 Před 7 lety

      2278 in about 3

    • @wizzo2280
      @wizzo2280 Před 7 lety

      I seen 5k views in a minute before.

  • @SolomonCornish
    @SolomonCornish Před 7 lety +9

    whats the point of picking up an M.2 drive and using a converter to plug it into a PCI-e port? Wouldn't it make sense to just pick up a pci-e based NVM-e drive instead, versus haggling with a converter and 1-2 separate drives?

    • @MattSena1
      @MattSena1 Před 6 lety +1

      At 5:53 he says "go through the same steps as our previous board that supported it natively". I have a feeling they had a longer video that included them installing a drive on a motherboard with an m.2 slot and that clip got cut, but they didn't bother updating the script.

    • @yaeshraj
      @yaeshraj Před 6 lety +3

      Maybe they want to talk about motherboards that do not have m.2 slots but support NVMe drives.

  • @ArmandAlberts87
    @ArmandAlberts87 Před 7 lety +1

    Dude, i gotta say, i like your channel!. Keep it up man!

  • @MadMaxBLD
    @MadMaxBLD Před 7 lety

    Very good and clear explanation of this confusing topic, well done!

  • @mtstechgamingtherapy5850
    @mtstechgamingtherapy5850 Před 7 lety +6

    why you don't do more in depth video about M.2 and U.2

  • @TheUnclejulian
    @TheUnclejulian Před 7 lety +4

    Hey Linus, thanks for the informative video. Perhaps you could do a custom build video where you discuss the reasoning on how to get the most bang for your buck? Which drive you chose and why, etc.

  • @firstnamelastname-xt5kn

    This video is concise, clear, and brief. Subscribed

  • @marks372
    @marks372 Před 5 lety

    Awesome! Great Job! Dude! Keep doing all the great work! Thank you so much!

  • @MuhammadAhmed-wh5kv
    @MuhammadAhmed-wh5kv Před 5 lety +6

    Watching it again in 2019 And still very informative!

  • @Ampera_
    @Ampera_ Před 7 lety +9

    Hey linus, the inability to boot from PCI-E storage isn't a problem almost whatsoever. Bootloaders can be used on a small hard drive, even a cheapie 80GB one, and then that can hand the deal off to the SSD. While this isn't that elegant, this is what I use to dualboot Windows Server 2016 and Windows 7.

    • @joem3082
      @joem3082 Před 7 lety

      Bah guess i was beaten to the punch.

    • @itsneight1260
      @itsneight1260 Před 7 lety

      but why get an M.2 if you're not going to use it for booting? Seems pointless to me as the larger storage size drives are WAYYYY too expensive.

    • @Ampera_
      @Ampera_ Před 7 lety

      Itsneight If you actually read what I said, you would know how stupid that was.

    • @itsneight1260
      @itsneight1260 Před 7 lety

      I assumed since you said 80GB that you were referring to a 2.5"ssd or AHCI M.2 since 80gb M.2 nvme drives dont exist.

    • @Ampera_
      @Ampera_ Před 7 lety +3

      No, I was saying if you put a bootloader on some random ass hard drive, I gave 80GB as an example, you can boot off of that, but store the OS on an SSD. That way when the PC boots, it hands you off to the bootloader, which then hands you off to your OS.
      My config is a 300GB HDD with a Server 2016 install disc image on it, and the disc image's bootloader allows me to boot into Windows 7 and Server 2016 because Windows 7's bootloader refuses to load Server 2016, and Sever 2016 doesn't want to boot into Windows 7.
      The same thing can be done with PCI-E storage that can't boot. Load GRUB on a small hard drive, configure it to load your OS off the SSD, and you're good.

  • @Gsoda35
    @Gsoda35 Před 6 lety

    This is the best Linus Tech Tips I have ever seen!
    Thanks, Team Linus!

  • @brandonturbo9911
    @brandonturbo9911 Před 7 lety

    This was a great basic explanation to Hard drives and connectivity.

  • @GnuB0ot
    @GnuB0ot Před 7 lety +3

    So you could just install the Bootloader on a normal SSD and use that to boot from the NVME Drive if your Mainboard does not support that?

    • @sahibjot01
      @sahibjot01 Před 7 lety

      GnuB0ot what is bootloader.. fuck it this pc shit id confysssingsgsgshsjsks

  • @darkflux
    @darkflux Před 7 lety +4

    wow, thanks for keeping me from having to google to find all that info...

  • @mylifestartsat8k
    @mylifestartsat8k Před 7 lety +1

    I had to watch this a couple of times, it'll eventually lock in :o !!

  • @3rdaxis649
    @3rdaxis649 Před 4 lety +1

    hahahahaha I love how you guys put Schluter tile membrane up on the walls!!

  • @scubaac753
    @scubaac753 Před 5 lety +3

    My brain is mush from watching linus explain this, lol. If only I had went to computer school instead of hvac school.

    • @liby5958
      @liby5958 Před 4 lety +2

      i didnt go to any school about computers and i pretty much understand all of this...

    • @martyisokay
      @martyisokay Před 3 lety

      Sheeeit, I appreciate you guys in the HVAC school! I have no friggin' clue how that sorcery works.

  • @hunterloli
    @hunterloli Před 7 lety +332

    worst written script of LTT....this is super super confusing....

    • @aoshi1992
      @aoshi1992 Před 6 lety +6

      Agreed

    • @pinkspiders34
      @pinkspiders34 Před 6 lety +14

      I'll make it simple,get a samsung evo pro nvme m.2

    • @johnabuick
      @johnabuick Před 6 lety +5

      Yah, 970 1 tb.

    • @Joostinonline
      @Joostinonline Před 5 lety +24

      The script was fine. It's just an incredibly confusing topic.

    • @JAYRAY00
      @JAYRAY00 Před 5 lety +1

      I thought it was just me who was "wha??" 😞

  • @josephv7762
    @josephv7762 Před 2 lety +1

    I kinda miss this style/vibe of your content. Not that your current stuff is worse by any means, I wish I could articulate what I like about this but it feels like a guide for dummies and it works for me!

  • @user-yp6kk9lx7k
    @user-yp6kk9lx7k Před 5 lety +2

    how can I find out if my mobo (b360m-d3h) can run a NVME m2 or a AHCI m2? in the manual it says only 1x M2 slot :\

  • @Dexter101x
    @Dexter101x Před 7 lety +5

    Just what we don't want, confusing computer standards regarding cables

  • @Henrix1998
    @Henrix1998 Před 7 lety +3

    I wish this video was longer

  • @tablatom
    @tablatom Před 6 lety

    Linus, you are amazing. You have helped me, a pro user, but not a pro builder,
    to understand what i need to TELL MY BUILDER what i need. Thank you a million times. And i love your fun style.

  • @rusinsr
    @rusinsr Před 7 lety

    Been waiting for a video like this for so long! :D

  • @mellifont96
    @mellifont96 Před 4 lety +28

    2019...just bought one to use as a stream library...

    • @solidanlive6313
      @solidanlive6313 Před 4 lety

      Yup....

    • @sean8102
      @sean8102 Před 4 lety +2

      Yeah, it's fantastic how much pricing has come down on NVME and solid state storage in general. Got a 1 TB NVME PCI E drive for ~$120 bucks recently. And thank god DRAM prices are finally getting back to sane pricing.

    • @provet1
      @provet1 Před 4 lety

      Or steam library

    • @wrifraff
      @wrifraff Před 4 lety

      @bittercottoncandy Micro Center has a Crucial 1TB NVMe drive for $109 right now 4/20/20.

    • @wrifraff
      @wrifraff Před 4 lety

      @bittercottoncandy www.microcenter.com/product/513534/crucial-p1-1tb-ssd-3d-qlc-nand-m2-2280-pcie-nvme-30-x4-internal-solid-state-drive

  • @mbahmarijan789
    @mbahmarijan789 Před 5 lety +28

    2019? ......
    still confused

    • @liby5958
      @liby5958 Před 4 lety

      what you confused about?

    • @cosmosofinfinity
      @cosmosofinfinity Před 3 lety

      2020 and still confused. I got on here to learn specifically about Ultra M.2...

    • @shadi6160
      @shadi6160 Před 3 lety

      @@cosmosofinfinity 2021 and still confused

  • @axlsumanreloaded
    @axlsumanreloaded Před 7 lety

    A video that was definitely needed. Thanks Linus

  • @morganpaul185
    @morganpaul185 Před 7 lety

    This was amazing please make more videos like this

  • @hattrickster33
    @hattrickster33 Před 7 lety +25

    meh I'll stick with a SATA III 480 GB SSD. The load times are already 2 fast I can never read the loading screens anymore :(

    • @ssssaa2
      @ssssaa2 Před 5 lety

      The areas where you see a major difference between M2 and SSD are a light less numerous than between SSD and HDD, but they do exist and are once again a several times increase. The big reedeming factor here is that it isn't actually that much more expensive, the gap between HDD and SSD is waaaay bigger than between SSD and M2. It's also very small and frees up a Sata port, so I could see it outside of a budget build.

    • @TheFluffernutter12
      @TheFluffernutter12 Před 5 lety

      @@ssssaa2 Why not both?
      or is that just pointless?

  • @BrawndoQC
    @BrawndoQC Před 7 lety +7

    I've the samsung 950 Pro in my build and it's faster than my 3 x 850 Evo storage in Raid-0. Very impressive. To be fair to apple, my 2014 Macbook Pro PCI-e benchmarks are twice as fast as a regular SSD.

  • @JMotion
    @JMotion Před 6 lety

    I dropped out of follwing tech news at all for a couple years after 2014, then came back this year and was super confused what these little ram looking things were. Can't believe that this kinda thing came along and just became a standard so quickly that nobody talked about them by the time I started following tech news again.

  • @FrancoContreras
    @FrancoContreras Před 7 lety

    This is the kind of content i miss from LTT, very useful

  • @dubious6718
    @dubious6718 Před 7 lety +23

    Whats with the useless info in the start, about cables?
    Which has nothing to do with M.2

    • @rexyliusde7681
      @rexyliusde7681 Před 7 lety +1

      The video is not only about the m.2 standard

    • @dubious6718
      @dubious6718 Před 7 lety

      Rexylius De But it has nothing to do with cables

    • @Marcus-OK
      @Marcus-OK Před 7 lety +21

      He's trying to explain the difference between the connector standard and the wire. Otherwise, people would think all the m.2 stuff is the same. Kinda like how people think USB C is an upgrade from USB 2.0 or 3.0

    • @dubious6718
      @dubious6718 Před 7 lety +2

      Marcus Kapoor He might as well explain the difference between a BMW and a Audi

    • @AlifAmzariAzamee
      @AlifAmzariAzamee Před 7 lety +10

      It's not about cables. It is about explaining physical interfaces (USB-C, SATA, M.2, U.2, Sata Express, Thunderbolt, Display Port, HDMI) vs Protocols (AHCI, NVME, USB 3.0, USB 3.1, ).
      It is like, not all USB-C is having the 3.1 speeds. USB-C is not necessarily USB 3.1 protocols. The same thing apply to M.2. Some M.2 have fewer PCIE lanes. And some don't speak NVME language.

  • @jeyendeoso
    @jeyendeoso Před 7 lety +6

    this was barely an explanation of m.2, just a small lesson on how to install a m.2 ssd.

  • @sheenobi
    @sheenobi Před 5 lety +1

    Thanks for the helpful tech tips! Your video really helps, particularly on the SSD variants! I had bought a Dell Inspiron 15 a month ago. The laptop included an 8th gen Intel CPU, 1TB HDD and 32GB RAM. I knew the 1TB HDD is a standard 5400rpm. I opened up the laptop for inspection, it have a slot to support an M.2 SSD. I gave my laptop an upgrade of using a newly 250GB M.2 SSD, and it is running blazing FAST! just freakin' awesome! ALOHA!

  • @babybesner
    @babybesner Před 7 lety

    Interesting video very educational! Wish I had known all of that a while back...

  • @ModrunOfficial
    @ModrunOfficial Před 7 lety +21

    touching the mobo with a screwdriver making me hurts

  • @tdog7326
    @tdog7326 Před 7 lety +6

    as a gamer and photo editor will I realistically notice a difference between NVMe and SATA III?

    • @iNick90
      @iNick90 Před 7 lety

      You'll likely experience faster boot times and loading times (take GTA5 for example) that game will load 2-3x faster on NVMe

    • @QuantumWrench
      @QuantumWrench Před 7 lety +1

      Oh Yeah.
      I have an OEM Samsung ahci m.2 256GB drive, x99-pro that yields 2200/1200 MB/s throughput for r/w according to CrystalDiskMark. It is four times faster than my moderately fast SSD on sata. Since storage will always be the slowest HW component, an X4 improvement in potential read and write will always help.
      NVMe will be faster than ahci. Less code and designed for FAST devices using four lanes of PCIe.

    • @polyjohn3425
      @polyjohn3425 Před 7 lety

      Considering how bulky most photo/video editing programs are, an increase in your drive's throughput is gonna make a pretty big difference.

    • @tdog7326
      @tdog7326 Před 7 lety

      thanks, I planned to already get a 7600k but I didn't know that

  • @DytliefMoller
    @DytliefMoller Před 7 lety

    Thank for the research linus....most don't realise ho many variables there usually are....

  • @dudelee1181
    @dudelee1181 Před 6 lety

    @Linus, Thanks for all your research on this.

  • @SavolX
    @SavolX Před 7 lety +4

    I feel like an idiot.
    And hey - I've built all my PCs to date myself (hardly an achievement, but still). Damn.

  • @NorthshireGaming
    @NorthshireGaming Před 7 lety +6

    When he said, "That product already exists", I was tabbed out for a moment and started thinking, "Wait, someone's made a USB to coathanger adapter?"

  • @BLKJ7
    @BLKJ7 Před 5 lety

    thanks for the video,,,way easier than reading different web-pages over and over and getting things misinterpreted and confused

  • @easternwind4435
    @easternwind4435 Před 6 lety

    THanks, a graph would also be cool for understanding

  • @elijahdunwoody5091
    @elijahdunwoody5091 Před 7 lety +4

    after 1 year of trouble shooting I finally fixed my computer... FML

  • @The_LIC
    @The_LIC Před 7 lety +6

    This video makes no sense to me and I don't understand it but I watched it all anyway.

  • @navblank6848
    @navblank6848 Před 7 lety

    When I built my brother's computer, I just got him a SATA SSD. I knew nothing about M.2 even though my brother's motherboard supports it. Thank you for explaining this! It will help me in my future builds.

  • @delcambrem
    @delcambrem Před 7 lety

    Amazingly helpful. Thanks!

  • @jordanallison7105
    @jordanallison7105 Před 7 lety +9

    Still confusing AF

  • @AstroRamiEmad
    @AstroRamiEmad Před 5 lety +4

    I understood totally none! First video from Linus that was really not that clear!

  • @technicaltoton2185
    @technicaltoton2185 Před 5 lety

    Hello, Sir. My motherboard has 2 m.2 slots, can I use one m.2 for os and other for storage?

  • @iggytse
    @iggytse Před 4 lety

    I’m glad I’ve spent the time researching and didn’t rush off to buy hardware. We have a 10 year old computer at work I wanted to upgrade with ssd. It looked like the cheapest option was to get a pcie adaptor for nvme ssd but didn’t realise you can’t boot from it for old motherboards. So will have to go the 2.5 sata route. Will need a USB 3 pcie adaptor as well to speed up cloning.

  • @dexty112
    @dexty112 Před 6 lety +6

    Are NVME and M.2 the same thing??

    • @ChrisThomasBone
      @ChrisThomasBone Před 6 lety +11

      M.2 is a hardware connector. NVMe is a protocol.
      So no, they aren't quite the same thing, but there's some overlap between them.
      You can think of protocols as languages that different components use to communicate with each other, and the hardware connectors as just what they're talking through. Some connectors support multiple protocols, and some protocols can be used over different connectors.
      The question you're asking is analogous to asking if English and Email are the same thing.
      NVMe protocol can be sent over the M.2 connector, but AHCI protocol can also be sent over M.2, the same way you can write an email in English, but you can also use French. NVMe can also be sent over PCIe, the same way you can choose to write the same English information over a text message instead of email.

    • @jefffy7775
      @jefffy7775 Před 5 lety +1

      @@ChrisThomasBone i thinks he will be more confuse now😂

    • @VijitChandna
      @VijitChandna Před 5 lety

      No

    • @cst256
      @cst256 Před 5 lety

      M.2 is a 'socket', a port, a bus or an interface, a physical (a hardware) thing like a USB/PCIE/SATA ports. Some are faster than the other. Like how a USB 3.0 port is faster faster than the 2.0 one.
      NVMe is a protocol like AHCI, so is not physical thing. NVMe is a new protocol while AHCI exists since early 200 and was designed for hard drives so you could imagine that NVMe is much faster. It sort of a procedure of how the data should be handled during transfer. Like http or tcp protocols for instance -- they sort of handle the rules regarding data transfer. NVME manages to be faster because is reduces the CPU overhead and some more magic that I don't understand like NVMe having more queues and more command in each queue bullshit.

    • @Sheed96
      @Sheed96 Před 5 lety

      Chris Thomas I totally understood that

  • @mathboy_
    @mathboy_ Před 7 lety +6

    One Plus 3 at 1:03 ?

    • @skweej
      @skweej Před 7 lety

      Mathboy first

    • @mattthetechguy5057
      @mattthetechguy5057 Před 7 lety

      I was first Skweej

    • @mathboy_
      @mathboy_ Před 7 lety

      wow i'm so pleased with my self. this has truly been the pinnacle of my existence as a human being.

    • @denis_dg
      @denis_dg Před 7 lety

      yes, the normal oneplus 3 or the oneplus 3t

    • @kenkalajdzic
      @kenkalajdzic Před 7 lety

      Denis G It's a "normal" 3. 3T's gunmetal casing has a slightly different tint.

  • @TairnKA
    @TairnKA Před 6 lety +2

    I wonder what would happen if you had an "Optane" M.2 (32GB+) attached to one of those cards?
    It's intended to improve the speed of the drive having the OS? ;-)
    I'm thinking if the "Optane" M.2 (32GB+) drive works as advertised and supporting a 1TB M2 (OS added) plus two 1 or 2TB SSDs I feel it would be a killer combo if the optane works (I'm optimistic you can answer my inquire)?

  • @kaffeetrinker
    @kaffeetrinker Před 7 lety

    Nice Video, added this to the specs for the next pc to build :)

  • @snackymcgoo1539
    @snackymcgoo1539 Před 5 lety +6

    Thanks, but I still don't understand.

    • @BenitoFan760
      @BenitoFan760 Před 5 lety

      I ended up more confused after this video

    • @kyeronelma4835
      @kyeronelma4835 Před 4 lety

      @@BenitoFan760 Then you should watch again, a few times if needed, and do a bit of research on your own (GASP!) about the things that confused you the most.

    • @kyeronelma4835
      @kyeronelma4835 Před 4 lety

      TLDR - M.2 PCIe SSD is the fastest form of storage.

  • @kcwidman
    @kcwidman Před 7 lety +16

    I have an SSD from an old laptop that is the exact same size as the one in my new laptop. They both run windows 10. Would there be any side effects if I straight up replace the drive in my new laptop with the drive from my old laptop? Would the entire computer have the same digital contents as my old laptop?

    • @sahibjot01
      @sahibjot01 Před 7 lety +6

      Kai Widman drivers and all will be messed up.. i dont know tho ima noob

    • @NineS5
      @NineS5 Před 6 lety +2

      Kai Widman you have to re install windows 10 and re install the drivers your Windows 10 product key should be below the laptop.

    • @ebash43
      @ebash43 Před 6 lety +3

      just make it legacy then run a driver updater. all should be fine

    • @Beta-lc8xl
      @Beta-lc8xl Před 6 lety +2

      it works on desktop, you may have a problem with drivers though and do a restore thing its not to hard

    • @cullenwalsh4485
      @cullenwalsh4485 Před 6 lety

      i don't think there would be, it is still like a baby desktop and you can do that in a desktop

  • @charm9675
    @charm9675 Před 7 lety

    Great video! it helped me to understand it more clearly, so now that i know more about it may get one that is worth it. :)

  • @ElwoodBluesAK
    @ElwoodBluesAK Před 2 lety +1

    Why does my motherboard says NGFF pcie gen 3 x4, Can it still support a m.2 nvme ssd? Or does the NGFF differ from the nvme?

  • @brbbiobreak
    @brbbiobreak Před 7 lety +6

    m.2 ahci is not the same as sata

    • @WorBlux
      @WorBlux Před 7 lety +2

      AHCI or the Advance Host Controller Interface, is an Intel standardized implementation of a Serial ATA host controller.

    • @_clemens_
      @_clemens_ Před 7 lety

      Indeed AHCI can also be used over PCIe...then it isn't Sata! e.g. the SM951 has also a AHCI flavour, which can be used in M.2 PCIe compatible slots. All the new PCIe SSDs use NVMe, but in the eraly PCIe SSD days there were PCIe AHCI cards...unfortunetely the video is confusing about this...

  • @stargazeonacloudyday
    @stargazeonacloudyday Před rokem +3

    Slim shady

  • @Professor__Cow
    @Professor__Cow Před 4 lety

    I just installed my M.2 drive directly into my motherboard, but I really enjoyed your explanation and the visuals, and I had no idea that PCIE devices existed that could basically port your M.2 drive in. :)

    • @laowai2000
      @laowai2000 Před 4 lety

      Not only do they exist but they also do not appear to lose any bandwidth. Good to know if you want to run multiple M.2 and motherboard does not have multiple slots.

  • @RoqueSantosJunior
    @RoqueSantosJunior Před 7 lety

    Linus thank you for your videos. I feel like my latest rig is 80 years old with a 2 year life span so far... But i've heard about this M.2 standards when i bough the ASRock Beebox for my HTPC.
    BTW why don't you analyze NUC devices? That would be fun.

  • @jacobrose9606
    @jacobrose9606 Před 6 lety +4

    8:01 - Linus' Face Is Concerning...

    • @nicholaskinkaid
      @nicholaskinkaid Před 4 lety +1

      Doesn't even come close to how weird his face is at 4:15

  • @KakkoiSan
    @KakkoiSan Před 7 lety +2

    Does it matter if I get the fastest ssd for gaming? The only difference I know is the loading times 🤔

    • @slipknotboy555
      @slipknotboy555 Před 7 lety +1

      Scythe I believe the loading times are the only benefit in terms of gaming (which you already mentioned). There's also faster boot times, but I think those two are it in a gaming context (of course, there's generally also faster reads and writes, but I don't think that's very relevant for gaming)

    • @torpedohippo8493
      @torpedohippo8493 Před 7 lety

      SSD/HDD/Whatever has no effect on performance, only loading times (mainly the initial start-up load of the game)

    • @techpanda2022
      @techpanda2022 Před 7 lety

      most folks just get it for the operating system and programs. My motherboard, x99 taichi, has two m.2 slots, so I thought about getting one for gaming. Pricewise its just not going to happen, plus my steam library wouldn't fit on any ssd right now. For a game drive, I would look at western digital gold drives as the loading times are improved with a good hard drive.

    • @stabilisedchaos
      @stabilisedchaos Před 7 lety

      I went back to a old HDD for 30 minutes because my SSD broke,that's how long it took me to rip the HDD out and throw it in the trash,the game load times were horrendous.

  • @EdwardBerryy
    @EdwardBerryy Před 7 lety +1

    This stuff is deep man!

  • @patrice373
    @patrice373 Před 7 lety

    Many thanks again for this video, you're the best