Twins get 'mystifying' DNA ancestry test results (Marketplace)
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- CBC Marketplace investigates the science and marketing behind popular DNA ancestry kits. Host Charlsie Agro and her identical twin sister Carly test five top brands. Find out why ancestry test kits are not as accurate as you might think. To read more: www.cbc.ca/1.4980976
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My Kids cried when they found out that they were NOT adopted...
lol...I can relate. I sooooo wanted to be adopted. Now, I have to accept how much of my parents that I truly am, from both nurture AND nature...all the way from misplacing keys to storing tissues under my left bra strap. 🤷🏽♀️
Lol
This was an initiation into true bonding. you are truly blessed.
Hahahahaha
I don't get why.....
My mum found her long lost sister through a DNA test, who found other relatives. It may not be accurate, but it's useful to pull broken families back together
I just found my mothers biological father after YEARS of searching! I love hearing stories like your (and mine..)
Not the same test and different approaches. Believe me I am geneticist. Much easier and accurate to compare two people than comparing a person to many populations.
@Clementina Yael Severina M. like Frank Lloyd Wright? Lol
@Xrey All ANYONE'S talking about are DNA tests!
They found jack the ripper in a similar way
I was adopted at Birth. At the age of 68 I was given a DNA kit as a gift. At the age of 70 I decided to use it. Didn't figure I would find out much of anything. Boy was I wrong. Not only was my ethnicity different than what I had been told but I found five full siblings, a half-brother and 35 or 40 first cousins.
Short version for those who feel impatient:
DNA tests do not test against ancestors but rather against the contemporary populations whose DNA has been collected and analysed by the companies. Therefore this is rather statistical analysis of the DNA and isn't certain, but rather uses confidence intervals to make it seem more certain than it is. Maternal haplogroup helps to add some certainty in some cases, but it's limited.
Second point: The twins have DNA that the kits assert are either mostly Eastern European, Balkan/Greek, or Italian (they have some Spanish in some of them, too). This is extremely reasonable to have this distribution, as admixture among these populations was actually very common, especially via maritime trade and movement on the Mediterranean.
that's what confused me. at one point i did one through a mostly uk company and so they had very few germans in the database i guess, so on that one my entire german side was left out and referred to as Southern England. I'm still a little confused but that's when I figured out it's about matching your profile against those already living in a certain area. if those in that certain area don't have any of a certain part of your dna it just goes as undefined or they put it under something else as a best guess? i have english/irish/scottish/welsh and also german
another issue that's not addressed is that nationality is NOT encoded into your DNA. just because your family's been living in Sicily since your great, great, great, great grandpa, it doesn't necessarily mean your DNA is similar to a typical "Italian". Sicily, for example, has had Greeks, North Africans, Germans, Phoenicians and Romans inhabiting some parts of it since ancient history. Migration and history should be in the appendix to these results, as they can and do affect it.
You put it clearer than I did. They didn’t research the background before they condemned the tests with this shock horror video.
@@bvbxiong5791 exactly 💯
they are etruscans, that's the explanation
Just don’t tell me the neanderthal profiling is wrong cause I’ve already bought the cave and taken up grunting
Your comment is my favorite!!
Oonga boonga?
@Shayne Punim Grooming a mate to swing from a tree - thats the difference.
Neanderthals didn't grunt more than our Homo sapiens ancestries.
Got the joke; chuckled. 🙂 Still, for anyone interested...in the tone of an old Geico theme ("...even a caveman..."), we're not so sure they were that dumb. New research suggests Neanderthals died out due to interbreeding pressure, not for lack of intelligence. If they'd survived they might have done better than we've done.
My Mom has always told me I'm from another planet, so I've never bothered to get tested.
🤣🤣🤣
Yep, that’s gotta be a very small database in a great big universe.
Who knows u might get shipped to area 51.
Love it! I hear you. I've been told that several times. You and I might be related.
If you can fly, shoot laser from your eyes and wear the underwear outside, yeah you probably is.
Found a half sister this way we didn't even know existed. She'd been searching her entire adult life. My sister and I visited her and I knew immediately from her hair at a distance it was her. All 3 of us at that time a few years ago had the same style, texture, and color. All like our dad's. It was amazing. I think putting these ethnicity estimates together with a family tree can help fill in the gaps.
Hello Sara what make of test did you use
Yes what test?
I had tried "My Heritage." It did this.
Ethnicity estimates are useless for genealogy. You want actual DNA to find relatives.
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Speaking as a genealogist, along with being a long time user of Ancestry, Gedmatch, My Heritage DNA. The ethnicity results may not be fully accurate. However, your DNA matches are 100% spot on and that is the most important information that you can have.
How can you trust the DNA results?
@@lindabaggio5859 I trust the DNA results because I work with them on a daily basis. I know from a massive amount of experience that they are correct.
@@lindabaggio5859Different from the guesses of family origins data, DNA matching is actually using science.
@@lindabaggio5859 the guesstimates relate to ethnicity, however matching strands of dna with relatives are much more precise. Only in instances where there is endogamy (populations who keep marrying within one community group) will people be predicted to be more closely related than they actually are).
I think why most people are surprised is because they don't take into account the patterns of human migration throughout human history. So many people have moved, been conquered, have conquered, and as a result there's a lot of mixing in the overall population.
Exactly. My brother, for example, claims a Scottish heritage and is confused as to why his Genetic results show Scandinavian, English, and Irish, not Scottish. I've tried explaining it to him...
This is a very good point.
@Holly 12345 I was always led to understand the Irish and Scots, both being Celtic, were ethnically the same. I'm not sure how or why DNA would differ between the two groups.
You wrote it so much more eloquently than I did. It's a big mix. That's why I wish we could all just get along. ;-)
LOL
My sister found our long lost aunt who was given up for adoption.... I think it's worth it ❤
Congratulations! As a family genealogist I have found remarkable results with AncestryDNA matching my tree. It has helped confirm that my research is correct!
Hahah
@ReturnoftheBrotha No, its not. I found a 1st cousin with 23 and me
My daughter found my my son who was adopted without using a dna kit. She used Facebook!
I'm adopted and found 2nd cousins via Ancestry. Met a lot of nice people and they're connected via Facebook now.
The DNA of monozygotic twins tends not to be 100% identical, and epigenetic and environmental differences further widen the gap between twin pairs.
I took the Ancestry test. If it was accurate, based on my oral family history, it would be very specific - both sides of my family came from Friesland, in The Netherlands. It was one small spot in Europe, nothing else would fit what I was told. And Ancestry nailed it. It zeroed in on Friesland like a laser beam. In my case I can vouch for Ancestry. Did not try the others.
The people from Friesland are the original inhabitants of Netherlands who are living there for thousands of years. The rest of Netherlands is a mix of other near direct European country’s and they will get the same soup as in the video. Chaos of predictions and inaccurate dna results.
Your DNA doesn't change, the way that they analyze the information does.
@Captain America It's called epigenetics, and yes they do change over time through environmental exposure.
@@litusbatus What about through environmental alterations like radioactivity?
@Social Justice Warrior dna never ever changes the only thing that changes is epigenetic markers
@Social Justice Warrior no it absolutely does not I just took an epigenomics course and besides that I have 6yrs of medical school behind me and a 4.0gpa as well. You are full of crap buddy epigenomic markers does not=a change in DNA and mutations do not=a "change" in dna either. Neither does recombination nor the snipping out of DNA none of these natural processes=a change In dna
For one, no one has "1 genome" anyways; every generation of daughter cells have DNA sequence changes. Thus, you really have as many genomes as you have cells. It's even more important to remember that
My Dad always said that, as a kid, I had more in common with the dog than my siblings. Excitingly awaiting for the DNA test to confirm.
And... if you’re sitting by the door drooling, waiting on the doorknob to jiggle, I’m guessing you’re dad was right.
Well, that's really grosd if you consider the implications.
Lmao
Ha ha
Paternity fraud. Its too common nowadays
I really appreciate this story. Good on you and your sister for doing this, thank you!
I kind of think some of it makes sense. During times of antiquity many Greeks lived in Rome because of its importance. Those Greeks were eventually called “Romani” Romans, although still being genetically Greek. It think if random Italians in Italy took the test, a good percentage would have Greek heritage. For the Jewish apart that could be even Jewish Christians who were part of the diaspora.
This is weird because I know two sisters who did the dna test, and their results came back identical.
Don't know why these Sicilian sisters are suprised they have Balkan/Greek genes when Greece colonized a lot of Sicily.
Exactly. Know history is important.
But the huge differences between them, between companies and between tests at the same company, not movement of ancient people are at issue.
@@yaelB9467 yes archaic historical cultures are nothing like the Modern world which these women are using as a yardstick for their results .
We are Greek/Balkan and discovered actually 30% Italian. Definitely not hard to believe.
They are confusing cultural with genetics is all...
Meanwhile my long lost aunt who was forcefully taken from my grandmother found us after her Ancestry Dna results connected her to a cousin...
So thankful for this new accessible way to connect to our relatives
It seems to me that this type of situation is the best use of these dna tests. It could also be useful to get a general idea of what your heritage is but then I beleive you would need to do more research to know precisely where they lived and even then documentation of such things is very limited.
Whao, that sound serious. Which test did you do? :-)
matching individual people is only possible with a true, full dna test to match with other true, full tests. these companies are looking at tiny portions of dna, and giving you the odds of where your people used to live based on the people who live in that place right now. ou did not find your aunt throuh the typical ancestory dna testing.
@@nonyabizness.original It is a starting point for many. I now have a lovely 2rd cousin who had been adopted as an infant. She found her way to our family after many years of searching, including several false starts. The initial lead was being identified as related to another of my 2nd cousins via one of these tests.
I believe Ancestry is the most accurate.
An adoptif girl find biological real parents and in the same time that she was adopted thanks to that test
A man meet his biological father too
Well done! I appreciate this clip.
What a brilliant and informative content… thank you so much
Lol, my sister got one of these for my parents and it caused mad drama. First my mom's results came back telling her she was 0% Italian when her grandparents immigrated from there and there is still a whole village of people in N Italy with her maiden name. It said she was French. Since talking to the extended family, I think the test is just confused by the Northern Italians. Then my dad found out that his mom lied to him his whole life about who his real dad was... So, they should really have a disclaimer that says something like, "We are not responsible for the secrets of your slutty grandparents!"
Same! Big “ who’s (not) your daddy?” surprises in my family, too.
Lol
💀 YESSSSS 😂 but they'll never admit the 💩
I mean French and Italian people are both European you won’t see the difference and they’re soo near to each other it could be that her grandparents were from French but then they travelled to Italy
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
They seem really clueless about Sicilian history. It has been a melting pot for people from all of the Mediterranean (i.e. including Iberia and the Middle East) for thousands of years.
Right, do they even study history in school watching this video is so frustrating... Europe is mixed gosh ..especially Italy which was conquered by tons of populations.
many people dont think about this. its the sad truth, 99% of americans are clueless of sicilian history. it almost souds like a joke because 95% of us dont know any AMERICAN history.
Mine came back 93% Italian and 7% Greek and Balkan.
Normans were in Sicily too.
I disagree...with the middle east aspect...North Africa yes...middle east not so much....they are pretty far apart.
This show put me off ever doing it but then the comments made me want to do it again. Good to know the pros and the cons
Well I mean it’s very difficult with the current technology to find out the entire DNA sequence. They specifically look at a certain parts of the DNA. Of course they will have some errors and they update it over time. It’s great that they are updated over time.
It's mainly about private companies collecting genetic information that is sold to China and the CIA for policing purposes........
My Ancestry test gave me 25 % Balkan region and my grandmother had had a Croatian lover before meeting my grand dad...Lol Grandma, explain? Lol
Simon Knight oof
Simon Knight LOOOOOL
Simon Knight I don’t know if Croatia is balkan
LimeFossa16 it is
@@limefossa1672 As a croatian i can confirm that it is
It's shocking to me that people actually thought the results are 100% accurate without estimation. To me I always just assumed it was estimation
Totally. They keep talking about how misleading it is, and omg they're even saying that they've given a best guess! And this one says it's only 50% confident in their results?!
So yes, its an estimate. I have no idea why people wouldn't realise, or why you'd be angry when the companies actually point it out. I thought that's what they wanted?
Of course. The thing is, the more people that take these tests the more accurate they become. This is because the companies will have more DNA to extract and more information from them means you can pinpoint the locations more precisely. It's no different than doing medical tests on a broader population say...100,000 vs 1,000 people. The results will be more specific the more information you have, since no 2 people are the same.
It's the advertisements. People are really naive and don't understand population genetics. People imagine these nationalities or ethnicities existed since the beginning of time, unchanged. Meanwhile, they're mostly cultural fabrications.
In the ads they make it seem that they are 100% correct so its not that shocking
@Bre Ne I assume you have higher esteem since in your estimation you correctly estimated that it was estimated.
I have had 2 adopted cousins contact me because they were trying to figure out who their parents were. I was able to help both of them get in contact with a parent. I think it's pretty accurate for finding family. My results have changed multiple times for my heritage. I just did the test for fun so I am ok with that.
Interesting! Good to know! Thanks for the research and the effort you put into it.
I really just do not get how people can see their results and start bursting into tears after finding out they’re “5 percent ______”
And i understand :)
"celestial"
Hehe
everyone from black Africa has zero Neanderthal DNA, everyone from everywhere else has Neanderthal DNA, so Chinese Arab White Indian Mayan all have Neanderthal ancestry, FACT for you
Remember, if you're white, it is all about purity. Thankfully, there is no purity.
I'm romanian, from eastern Europe. That country was occupied by the romans, the turks, the mongols. It also seen immigration from Germany, Russia. There are Roma people originally from India. I don't care where my DNA comes from because it comes from all over the place because people move around.
Exactly.....
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BINGO! You win the DNA "Where Do I Come From?" Contest! All the millions of you who played along and paid for DNA results, sorry!
You don't have to care (you probably do in some situation though) but it's a little broad to say "people move around". Yeah... true... but it hasn't been some equal rainbow pie of everyone moving around everywhere.
In Scotland, well you had Scottish folk going back 40,000 years, and you do have people moving around, like Irish, English, Nordic countries, okay. But that's not 500 different groups all mixing in Scotland over thousands of years. So yes people move around, but it's not everyone moving everywhere, and there is such a thing as a people, an ethnicity, a clustering of DNA to a particular home region, etc
That's very true. I'm actually waiting for my DNA results, hopefully soon. Both sides of my family come from the same town in Sicily. It will be interesting since history weighs heavily on Sicily.
My family on both sides kept ancestry records that were detailed and went back four generations. I did 23andMe and didn't know what to expect. I was not surprised by any of the results. It was exactly the percentages I had been told. I was expecting maybe a surprise or two, but nope. I was even given the same percentages of German, French and Irish from 23andMe that I had calculated from records. So there you go...my husband also got the results he expected.
I did ancestry. Not sure about my ancestors, but was immediately linked to known relatives. Also found my uncle's daughter whom I did not know existed.
same.
I was linked to known relatives.
I turned out to be 100% earthling.
Hi neighbor! Glad to share with you. = )
I guess it depends how far back you look
I didn't get that at all....
SAME HERE! I'M 0.099% apple, and 0.001% dandelion. 🤫
Hmm.. best re-test
Thanks to Ancestry I found my long lost father who was taken prisoner during the Vietnam war. And I found my long lost brother and sister who are living in Siberia! Joy!
How?
@@Kopie0830 huh
That's not from a DNA test though, it's from you inputting information.
Did he leave you a gold watch?
can you prove it tho without the dna test? or u bought it and just went with it?
This piece is well done. Thanks guys.
Would have been interesting to see them send in multiple samples and see how close or off the results would have been
I did 23 & me. I am 68 years old. I found my mother who is 88 years old. 3 sisters and 2 brothers. I new my real mothers name so we are 100% sure. I new I had a lot of German and everything was right. It was a miracle at my age!!!
Congratulations that’s wonderful
That’s fantastic! I’m so happy you were able to find your family and possibly lay to rest any questions you had. That’s just neat!
Make up for the lost time
@@8cupsCoffee congratulations. That's wonderful
How many tests did you do? I’m trying to help my sister find out who her biological father is or what her nationality is. Did you know your moms or sisters real names or anything about them? And congratulations 🍾 😀👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Testing for who you're related to is very different from testing for where you came from.
Identical sequences should yield identical results
@@danielculver2209 And considering we share 99% of our DNA worldwide, we are all family.
These test couldn't test anything accurate. They're a rip off. Identical twins have ZERO DNA variation. They failed at detecting identical twins, lmao.
@@360revolucion8 Not true identical twins do not have identical dna after birth, there are variations.
@@nathr7375 identical twins have identical DNA unless there was a rare mutation.
Definitely worthwhile to make this programme! Thank you!
Thanks for putting things in perspective.
We (my brother and I) did DNA tests 10 years ago and have watch the results change. We did initially do it to give our children a sense of who we are ethnically. (We're adopted) Ultimately, we've watched that result morph and change slightly over time. Our biggest result: We found first cousins whom we were able to find out who our father was. Unfortunately he died several years prior. We also found a half-sister! What a treasure!
That is awesome. I am really glad for you. Sorry about your father though. My Dad was never legally adopted but, he was raised by his Mom's mother & step-father. His mother died when he was 19 (3 years before I was born) & 3 months before my Mom met him. And to confuse things even more, his mother's 1st husband left her after having 2 girls together. The oldest 1 was only 1 year old when her Dad left & never came back. Dad's father, he too, was married & left his wife after having 3 kids but, was pregnant for a 4th one that he (I assume) never knew about. He had 1 boy & 2 girls & then when Dad was 49, I found out that he had another brother. A son that his Dad never told us about. Therefore, I am positive that Grandpa died not even knowing about this kid. Which is very sad. That Uncle is now 82 & the other one we knew about died last year at 89 years old; & he was the one that knew about my Dad from day 1. And even though Dad goes by his Mom's previous married name, his late brother knew he was his brother & even told everybody Dad was his brother too. Dad looks like my Grandpa the most besides that. It really freaked out both of his brothers & all the rest of our extended family too. They always said, there's no doubt in our minds who his father is eh. Sometimes the genes are so strong between 2 half-siblings that you would have never guessed that they were only half-siblings & not full siblings. My Dad is the youngest of 8 altogether which includes each of his parents' 1st families as well as him & an older full sister that died at birth due to a doctor's mistake. Yet, he has strong resemblances to all of these half-siblings that hit adult age. That's DNA for ya. :)
The more people tests the better the results are for everyone-it’s why it’s shows small changes or % changes -it becomes more accurate the more people are tested
It's exciting isn't it! I hope you keep in touch with your cousins and half-sister.
I’m 2% squid, that explaines my love for long showers and shrimp
doublebassbass lmao I can’t with this comment 🤣🤣🤣
doublebassbass :-No certainly not!.You are 98%genius and 2% jackass!.Check your genes!
Zoidberg hhhh
@@MsG4L4DRIEL you're genius I laughed so much i'm dying 🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Need a 4 year update on how it’s all changed.
Just saw this. Fascinating for sure. My sister did the text and it was accurate as to what we’ve been told but have always been tempted to do my own. Guess I don’t want my DNA floating around out there. Thank you.
At 56, through Ancestry, I found siblings I never knew I had, a father I've never known, and his parents. I am his only child that looks just like my father and his mother. In my opinion DNA results may not be on the money about where you are from, but it can definitely identify who you came from.
UPDATE:. We talk all the time. They tell me all about my dad, and the history of the family, sending me photos, the resemblance is uncanny. Im the youngest of 7, which includes me and 2 other outside children. Only one sibling with his wife is living (the person I matched on Ancestry, 63) and the other 2 outside children. the oldest being 73.
My father was the same age as my grandfather, my mother was 20. I did find out that he had just been divorced when he was with my mother and he died a year after my birth.
Family dna test works different so they are accurate. These tests they are talking about just some guess and a bit statistics.
@@tamilyatamilya all the companies they're talking about matches you to/with people you're related to, in addition to estimates of your heritage.
Sorry, but the ancestry test is not solid proof of family members. Ancwstry themselves says you must check against the most likely matches then do extra research to follow the family tree or take a proper DNA test like Sibling, Paternal, or Maternal testing in a professional lab.
@@maryst77 no they looking some random strings and compare them with other continental's random strings. As much as that the part of dna's similar, they gave you the percentage. But as video says even the collected data dna from countries is vary and changes. Because they grab different parts of DNA sometimes and participation changes. There is no a certain string that tells you, your ancestors coming from a certain country. But parental or sibling test are 99.9 accurate.
@@tamilyatamilya Yes, I'm aware of all that. These tests, FamilyTreeDNA, ancestry, 23andme do match you up with people related to you, though, in addition to the stuff about your heritage, which is very useful for genealogy. I'm not arguing the accuracy of the heritage stuff. I was just responding to your comment that these tests don't work for people related to you (if that's what you were saying - I may have misunderstood your comment). I've done some of the above tests, as well as my family members and it's been very accurate for showing how we're related - although I don't doubt that there are issues for some people.
I just found out the biggest advantage of having a twin. You can test out different hairstyles simultaneously.
The disadvantage is I have had grey hair ...and losing it for a lot of years while my twin is just starting to go grey and still has most of his .
are we too shallow? i was thinking the same thing!!!! hahaahahhaha
whoddaya My sister is 7 years older than me but we look very very similar. A few months ago she convinced me to get a short haircut (I’ve always had long hair) then got the exact same haircut. She literally just wanted to see how the haircut would look on her 😒
@@Kate-lc3ce That's not nice of her
Oh that's so true!
I knew my results were an estimate. I did research before I purchased the kit. I think the best thing about these kits is that they can help you find relatives.
Interesting: Stable isotope technology helps to differentiate the origins of candidates where DNA is not a viable method of identification. Stable isotope technology can detect the locations in which an individual has been raised (to the age of approximately 21) and the locations in which an individual lived in the final 10 to 15 years of their lives.
Every time an army passed through they would leave their DNA behind.
Everyone keeps forgetting that
Not just an army, but also merchants, envoys etc.
Sicily in particular changed hands many times
I believe the original britain dna was superceded by german saxon dna only several hundred years ago 🤣
Somer kids. Some er here some er there. So I said some er everywhere
Greek is not surprising. Sicily was colonized by the Greeks before the Roman empire. The fact they are getting Mediterranean countries is pretty good. With so many migrations over the centuries, and nationalities being historically more recent, it's very possible that "Italian" is not what they get.
Exactly. It's just sad how history and migration isn't even taken in account when they are trying to understand the results. Italian is pasta, no more.
Exactly right, count in two world wars in Europe and everyone is migrating everywhere.
Not to mention South Tyrol. That region of north Italy is inhabited by Germans!
@@zd2243 Not to mention South Tyrol. That region of north Italy is inhabited by Germans!
The disturbing point is that identical twins got different results...
Many site’s specifically say, siblings can have different results, even twins.
The more people take the tests, the larger the databases will grow. The more the databases grow, the more comparisons are made, the more refined the results can become. I think! Don't quote me on that. I think Ancestry updates my ethnicity results about every six months as more people put their DNA in the database. My initial result was much broader, but with each update the regions where my DNA shares markers with others grow a little smaller. Mine updated last week again, and it's fascinating to see the changes--which were big at first, but get smaller each time.
So what you're saying, it's a cool way to build a global DNA database while profiting at the same time?
@Sig Kimber Like the name you've chosen. 😊
Look up the owner of 23 and me. Ann Wojcicki and who she was previously married to.
@thesix107 Yeah. OWOrder crowd like the idea of getting everyone used to the idea that we're all the same. Maybe, even to the extent of giving false genetic info to the world, while keeping your true full DNA for themselves (and some of the companies even have the rights to sell or use you're DNA for whatever else they want). Testing is a scary thing to be doing "just for fun"!
How many of these companies share their data with government agencies if any of them do thats a bit sinister
Wow, just a guess - timate ? The way they advertise, you think they's be right spot on, being with a genealogy facebook page though you find out different.... getting my dad's results soon...
I did a test and discovered I was human. I was shocked.
Waiting on Facebook's CEO to take DNA test and prove he's an 👽.
If a genetic test would say I'm mostly non homo sapiens sapiens, but have other human groups ancestry, I wouldn't be shocked at all.
omg what no fair! I was raised as a human but it says I am undetected T_T
Better than being a lizard....
Remember names for us Hunans just give a referance point.... The truth is a name is not human the people are. Let's ask The Lord Yeshua to remove the blindness from us and please. Adonia Help us from the darkness that is all around and consuming us HUMANS We are like an orchard with many flowers.... Do you think the red rose thanks in its heart about the white rose, (Pride) I'm better than you,( Lust) I'm wiser, smarter and more beautiful. And even more ( Lust) I can be WHO I WANT. Well, this is what we do to eachother, The Lord is coming with ten thousand of His saints...... We people need to repent of our sins, and ask Yeshua ( Jesus) for forgiveness.... or we will go to a pit of OUR own choosing Amen
17:20 - 17:45 sums it up perfectly
My 23andme test results corresponded extremely closely to what we already knew about my family tree. I was impressed by the accuracy. My husband's results also mirrored almost exactly what his family already knew about their family tree. Results are probably more accurate for some populations than others, based on the sample size.
Was my fav test too
I guess it all depends- me any my sister were on the other side of that 50% - she had Native American dna - me none.
Lol, the most confident part is where the DNA company gets your money
Emphasis on the "con" part, lol.
Brilliant
and your dna - your genetic fingerprint
Yes. 23 and me lost me when they said I have blue eyes and red hair. I’m a brown-eyed brunette.
Or where the DNA company turns another profit from selling your info to drug companies
Lol. People are changing their entire lives based on who they "think" they are.
Just be yourself, not who your ancestors, or what companies say you were.
Exactly. Nobody ever gets to choose their parents. It's what you do now that matters.
I think that behind this nonsense of the DNA heritage..there are the sionist. Cause like this they validate the lie..that they are a race.
yep it seems to be identity crisis overload, some people take this stuff way too seriously.
People are so dumb in 2020.
While you're right, it's also true that identity is always behind whom we see ourselves as being when we are "being ourselves". That is because who we are is a function of what we believe about ourselves. We can place our identity anywhere...personality, skills, character, interests, race, nationality, etc. If our sense of self is built upon inner qualities or our skills, then we won't crumble over our genealogy. But if we build our house upon genealogy and the culture of that race, then that house will fall if it comes out that the foundation was sand. Ultimately, we don't know much about ourselves. We can't really trace our genealogies, despite ancestry websites, because we cannot assume every father listed is the true father. So this is not a place to build one's identity house.
Charlie - the reason your results came up with such a strong Greek/Balkan result are easily explained if you look at the history of the region as well! Sicily, where your forbears originated was heavily populated with Greek settlers in antiquity. Cities such as Syracusa and Gela still have Greek names today...and the island was Greek speaking until about 1100 AD...This is the origin of your test results. Yes, you are Sicilian, but like all other Sicilians, you have a Greek heritage as well.. The problems with these tests is that they need to be examined hand in hand with a study of history, shifting identities, and migration, and that is probably too much for most people who just want immediate gratification. I'm Greek...and now you are too!
I knew it was partially guessing or not really looking at the whole DNA or comparing segments with people who’ve taken that test. I took one years ago and my results have changed so much since then.
Saved myself $99
Thanks
Why?
Sho Kosugi Because it is a scam.
Rahim Htmal me 2
Lol, me too actually.
Exactly. My husband wasted money on one of these tests and gave him weird results. Lol
At 66, my daughter and three grandchildren found me with Ancestry DNA.
it was a dowsing rod in our case
@@jerkchickenblog
Heck, be glad it was only dowsing, they found me, and well, they said they were trying to Baptize me, the only problem was, they wouldn't let me up.
Aw how sweet. I hope you have a great loving bond and relationship with your granddaughter and grandchildren
@@hn45645 Thank you. We talk daily, but we have not met in person yet because we're in different countries. It's only been a few months since we found each other.
Awesome mate.
Hope you meet soon.
They also use it to add to law enforcement dna databases.
My mother always assumed she is 100% Dutch. That's the culture in which she grew up. We decided to do DNA (National Graphic Geographic) tests a few years ago. She knew she had a😂 8th great grandfather who was from Spain, but she was shocked to find out the majority of her DNA is from European Mediterranean countries, from Portugal to the Slavic countries with a bit of France & Germany. That revelation explained a lot about the the skin tone of random family members, especially me, my maternal grandmother, and son. Amongst Blonde haired blue eyed family members stands me, my son, and our dark features!
did you finish watching the video? Your results about your ancestry breakdown is clearly a not scientific
You do realize that Spain controlled the Netherlands for period of time. So there could easily be Spanish genes in her family.
@@steveramsey7983 their was no spain until around 1492
@@steveramsey7983 We know there are.
Mediterraneans are not dark skinned. Im sick and tired of AngloSaxons talking about Mediterraneans as if they were "different" or exotic.
DNA doesn’t lie. Interpretations are another story.
@Zionism toHell In a sense it does. It confirms hundreds of my ancestors. It says more than you know, that is for sure.
Actually: Greek/balkan DNA in Sicily are common thing in fact Sicily was part of Greek a long time ago even today you can hear a version of greek language on Sicily spoken by natives and when we talking about Greeks they are ortodox christians like a lot of Slavic nations from which have a long tradition of close ties. Carigrad today Istanbul was ortodox capital city with slavic/russian priests before muslims/Turks run over.
@@altergreenhorn That's interesting.
@@altergreenhorn YES! Hit the nail on the head. Most people don't know that.
@@altergreenhorn Yes! Hit the nail on the head. Most people don't know that.
People should be aware, the reason why many southern Italians get almost 0% Italian on these tests and get Balkan/Greek instead is because southern Italy was heavily colonized by Greeks, and so there is an incredibly close genetic link. It all depends on what populations these companies have data from to compare with - if their data includes southern Italians/sicilians, you'll get that on your results. If their data includes more northern Italians, then you might see a lot more greek on your results.
I was waiting for them to talk about this. In history, there has been a lot more moving of people across borders (or borders across people) than we envision. If your ancestors have lived in what we now call Italy for a few hundred years, you can feel 100% culturally Italian and still look muddled genetically.
not to mention the Roman/Byzantine Empire that came after that.
The Spanish invaded Sicily and Italy as well. Which is why that is very likely to show up as well.
Just goes to show that everyone is a mix of something. Even if the tests are not 100% accurate, it does prove that no one is singularly from one place.
exactly, I really couldn't believe no one in this video talked about that or just about people migrating in general.
But regardless, they were twins, right? Should be the same.
My sister and I in an effort to find out who our grandfather was took dna tests. I took 23 and me and my sister took ancestry . As a result we discovered that my mother who thought she was an only child actually had a sister, and we tracked down my grandfather and that part of our family. In 2019 we went to the family reunion which our new relatives held every year and there was no doubt about our relationship.
As for our ethnicity, we are all mostly Irish/ Scottish which was not in doubt. We found the dna tests helped us solve the problem of our missing grandfather.
I did the most accurate one. World dna. It showed me I'm 95% from earth!
"An approximation of how your DNA compares to other people".
"It's not tracing back your heritage".
I confirmed the identity of a relative that was placed into a closed adoption over 40 years ago. I'd been looking since she turned 18. We are both so happy to know each other and looking forward to meeting in person soon. Sadly, her mother wants nothing to do with her but now she knows who she is, and I know that she had a good life and very good parents. That peace of mind is priceless to us both.
Yes, I was wondering about scenarios like this. In terms of ethnic analysis, they can only approximate. But I’ve also heard neat stories of long lost family members being reunited. So, I suppose what one is using the tests for can vary how one views the success of the test. I know too that some are even more geared toward health analysis moreso than ethnic origins.
Same thing happened with my friend. Sad it's like a blow to the heart. But there are so many things that motivate people. That you have to respect those feelings. Maybe someday the Mother will come around.
So the mother is trying to deny the past by punishing her daughter?
@@tulsaguy9963 That is not how she sees it at all. She sees it as having a child for people who wanted children and she has said that she has no right to any information on the child or that family. I also believe that since the father (now deceased) left her before learning she was pregnant, had three daughters, by three different mothers, and supported none of them, she doesn't want in any way to be connected to his family, which still lives near where she lives. But, she has never said that to me, so it's just a guess.
late to this party but thats a very worthwhile investigation youve done there. not only from the angle of false/deceptive advertising and consumer rights, but also because this can be such a divisive issue and ppl can get really intense over these things. taking the test as a bit of fun fine, as long as you understand its not accurate. but anyone who puts a lot of import into their ancestry and could be seriously impacted by the results could be harmed emotionally if their personal results are as wildy off as they clearly could be.
That was fun to watch!
I had to laugh when these twins were shocked over how much Greek they had as opposed to “Sicilian.“ Any student of history knows… Sicily was the melting pot of the entire Mediterranean.
In fact, Sicily was a part of Greece proper for a long time before the Romans took it. And then later on the Arabs possessed it for quite some time.
Know your history folks. And yeah… Take these tests with a grain of salt.
Funky Fungi, exactly. My GF’s Family is Sicilian but GEGE. Albanian immigrants from the 15th century trying to escape Ottoman rule in the Balkans.
Yeah. They do need to learn that most places in the worll is really not that homogenus.
This is my entire thought process while watching this. Anyone with a cursory understanding of history would know WHY these results have different classifications for the haplogroups. If the actual HAPLOGROUP results were wrong, then that would be more cause for alarm. This entire segment made a mountain out of a molehill. Statistical variations and a growing data pool account for all of the discrepancies shown here. I'm really underwhelmed.
@serendipidus1 Slavic and Central Asian DNA is more common in the Balkans than in Greece.
How about how the tests conveniently omits any African ( sun saharan) DNA matches.... i guess they feel Hannibals presence has been effectively breeded out!! ..lol!!
According to my DNA test, I am 23.7% Cheetos.
You should call the president of the United States, as you must be a lost member of the Trump family.....
@@davidhollenshead4892 Oh no, she'd better not do that, as otherwise the President might have to shell out another $130,000 in hush money to Saft Suse's mother... 😂
😂
@@quantumbubbles2106 I better not do that because then Trump would have to pay my mother?
How much do you assume I hate my mother? :P
Also, don't assume my gender! *triggered* I'm not a girl, I'm a bipolar pear!
Best Reply ever!!!😂
I know 21 generations of my forefathers by NAME
and where they lived, these tests wouldn't give the info more precise than this apparently. Thank you for saving my money
I did ancestry DNA and did a lot of genealogy research. My DNA results matched my genealogy results pretty well until they updated my results. When I got updated a second time my results got even further from what my tree showed.
"I got it for my mom for fun, cause she's so proud of her Irish heritage" Turns out her mom was 50% African 😂
Luna Sea When I was a kid I thought our Family was 100% IRISH because Mom & Dad both had IRISH last names. Turns out the O'GRADY name was more English than IRISH. We had to have some IRISH we were born with IRISH FRECKELS HA HA
jim ogrady Haha. Nice!
I am very proud of my African ancestry, but it’s less than expected.
@@profscarlett cry about it
"Passed"...well at least in the US. I bet there's an interesting story there.
What baffles me is that the reporter and her team could not find out that Greeks colonised Sicily and that the Balkan is neighbouring Greece and people migrated between countries for thousands of years (for example: Alexander the great was born in Macedonia, a country in the balkans).
Furthermore, you couldn't find anyone who can explain how statistics actually works? I mean, this isn't rocket science.
I was surprised nobody mentioned that as well... Btw Alexander the great was born in Macedonia, a region of Greece and the country that is named North Macedonia today actually contains only a small part of the territory of the ancient greek kingdom of Macedonia.
Macedonians (North Macedonia/FYROM) are ethnic Bulgarians in deny. Also, Alex The Great was NOT born there.DNA tests do not take into account the population migration. Why Greece & Balkans and not Thrace?
Snooooore
Michael Ernst All of that’s irrelevant.
Michael Ernst pyrrhic wars
I've done a couple of tests that ended up similar. At least Ancestry states your percentages in a scale of possibly 0% to whatever percentage they estimated. And they update from time to time. So changes seem to get more refined as time goes on. My initial test showed no UK, then updates moved on to include Brit, Scotch and Welsh. The initial test only had me at 11% Portugues, which was odd, since my Mom' family was almost all from Portugal. Now it's up to 41%, more specifically associated with the Azores. However, if one knows the country's history, the Portuguese Government invited other people from other countries to settle in the Azores since no mainland Portuguese wanted to move there. I am aware that these tests are rather loose ended, so to speak. However, when I found the Scotch end, I did some family investigations and learned my Mother's Mother's grandmother was from Scotland, which I hadn't known, but a cousin, many times removed, who was much older had down a records research of the family some decades ago and found this fact. Her parents had migrated to the Azores late in the 19th century from Scotland. So... you never know.
Wow! That's quite an eye opener how you and your identical twin's DNA results varied. I was toying with the idea of taking it but am glad I didn't waste my money on it after watching your investigation of DNA testing. My paternal Aunt did genealogical research on our family tree, so when Father had his DNA testing, the results were more or less concurrent with his sister's family tree results. Thanks for your enlightening video! Jenny
"I thought I married an Italian. Turns out he is only 16% Italian..... "
Okay,....what is this leading to? A divorce? Let the dead rest. Greetings from Germany.
Good vid, good message.
Yep, never take that wife to anything Italian.
If you were born in America you are American. People seem to take it that if they've had an ancester from Italy that they themselves must be part Italian. This concept baffles my mind. I'm from South Africa so I identify myself as either South African or African not English because of where my father came from or Irish because of where his father came from or even Romanian because of where his grandfather came from. There are too many variations in where our ancesters were born. People have to re-evelatuate their concept of where they're from and where they were born to get a more accurate sense of their ancestrial heritage otherwise it promotes incorrect information on their ancestrial history.
@@amyelizabethjacobs3183 Same. It's your cultural heritage that matters
Amy Elizabeth Jacobs there’s a difference between nationality and ethnic background/ethnicity. Obviously everyone born in America is American, but my ethnicity is Irish-Italian. That doesn’t mean I’m saying I’m not American. ..?? How does that not make sense to some people?
Tbh I've met so many "Italian"-Americans who are only a quarter Italian yet they insist on calling themselves Italian and completely disregarding their other heritage, as if they have anything to do with Italy anyways, culturally speaking. A hilarious example is the American actress Ileana Douglas, her dad was mostly English/anglo-saxon, her mom was half Romanian/half Italian with a Romanian last name, yet she tells everybody her mother was Italian. I've even seen interviews with her where she's asked where her name comes from (Ileana is a Romanian name) and she says her mom named her after "some Romanian princess" lmfao, those are the exact words she uses, but she NEVER says that she's part Romanian too despite the fact that her mother's last name is something with an -escu which is obviously Romanian and not Italian. She straight up tells people that her mother is Italian and that she "identifies more with her mother's working class Italian immigrant side of the family" as opposed to her dad's "old school American side" and she says nothing about her mother being Romanian as well. Imagine having a Romanian name and a mom with a Romanian last name and saying your mom's side of the family is only Italian. Also if her family has been in America for three generations, she's "old school American" too. People like this are a parody of themselves. It's some weird warped cultural chauvinism to ignore 75% of your ancestry. Some lady who lives in my building is mostly Scottish but she tells everybody she's French bc she's like 1/8th French and she has a French last name. She couldn't speak French to save her life. Either accept your American-ness or Canadian-ness and say that's what you are, or if you're going to talk about your ancestry, acknowledge all of it, don't cherry pick 20% of it and totally ignore the rest because you think being Italian or French makes you sound "more interesting" or some such garbage. You have nothing to do with that culture anyways.
No one is going to talk about how they look like Tia and Tamara (?
This was Interesting and Entertaining !
Last fall I did 23andme, which linked me to my sister's long lost baby girl she gave up for adoption in 1969. I was delighted to call up my big sis and let her know, giving her the New-year's ever.
So worth it to find close relatives?
@@marcellemccalla6325 yes, but that assumes that they have done the test as well, it can only compare to the data it has in it's database. But yes it can accuratly find relatives.
@@marcellemccalla6325 I, my daughter and my brother, all have different names. My daughter and I have married named. We three live in separate parts of the U.S. It connected our relationships to each other .... of myself to my child and my sibling! They connected all three of us to each other, correctly. 👍🏼😉
Linking relatives is more accurate as it doesn't involve the calculation of ethnicity as they can just check if any dna in the database are similar to yours. the issue is not in how they analyze the dna but how they try to match it to a specific area of origin.
Historically speaking, Sicilians were mostly from Greece, so the Greek/Balkan results are not strange.
Yeah, Greeks built colonies all the way to Marseille. Also Greeks are in the Balkan .. Italy was the center of Roman empire and people from all Mediterranean went their to settle and live the Roman dream.. anyone with basic knowledge of history would anticipate it.
Mary Vallas Sicily is made up of Albanians honey
The Arbereshe
@@jonikej When I said Historically speaking.... it is before Albania existed. They were Macedonians... hence... Greek.
Mary Vallas I am talking about people from Albanian territories and they were not Greek or Macedonian
@@maryvallas772 Macedonians werent "greek", macedonians shared the "helenistic" culture with greeks but they werent "greek".
I wish I could say that I was surprised, but misleading consumers through advertising is STANDARD PRACTICE.
Three levels of lying:
Factual lies, marketing hype, and statistical summaries.
Harold Henderson “There are lies, damned lies, and statistics.” Mark Twain
It's almost as if our ancestors moved around a lot
They really didn't.
@@TheOwenMajor Since most human civilizations were nomadic they really did
@@s.a.8548 the people's of Europe advanced beyond nomadicy thousands of years ago.
If only everyone had built a wall..
@@TheOwenMajor ...really now. Aren't you the same people in Australia, the Americas, and some Asian/African regions? Come on now. Every tribe move around A LOT. Europeans isn't an exception.
Took a DNA test --- found out I am of Indian (India), Moroccan, Turkish, Spanish (Spain), Italian, Greek, German & Icelandic descent. To say the least, I was shocked to find out I have ancestry from India. Especially since I am blonde and very fair-skinned. But it was wonderful to find out this info !!!
Which country are you from yourself?
I found my sister through 23 and me last year. I’m also a twin and we both took the test 2 years apart and the results are very similar. We are fraternal so I knew our results would be exactly the same but only a few numbers off.
Lol a deep dive into fraternal twins will shock you, especially once you realise that being "twins" (aka same womb, same time) doesn't always mean being twins (same parentage, same results but a few numbers off). Human reproduction can be wacky like that.
Fraternal twins are more like siblings than actual identical twins, so you'd share around 50% of your genes.
I think the main confusion comes when you use nationalities as race
Yes! Thank you. I HATE when ppl do this. White people in the US love to say oh I'm not white I'm irish and German and Italian And British etc those aren't races those are just places white people live, along with everyone else.
@@jamesb6396 ah, half true. it is ethnicities and there is some differences between let's say italic, etruscan, germanic and welsh (celtic). Mainly superficial as in hair and eye colour and lvl of tan. In the US people seem to be obsessed by being 2% of something which doesn't tell anything usefull. In the end all caucasians are central asian step people.
@@sciencefliestothemoon2305 yea true but so is what I said. In the context of migration patterns to determine race, anyone can live in a place for a few generations, with the genetic features from somewhere else. The US as a whole is obsessed with race one way or another. So again country of citizenship of your grandfathers doesn't necessarily define a race for you in any way.
Christian *steppe
According to my results my ancestors were cows. That can't be right.
I've seen your mother.. You're right
Hereford or Angus?
Probably should have swallowed that quarter pounder before swabbing. lol
Cows? That's udder nonsense.
makes sense,therefore the name...
Wow. Great information
Imagine getting one that had no connection to earth.
The important message is given at the very end: pure ethnic groups do not exist and it is a dangerous idea.
And at 20:48 - if humans *already* share over 99% of DNA, a 99% match between twins should be in the remaining under 1%, i.e, about 4 decimal places out. When people throw out pennies as irrelevant, this is like splitting pennies into 100 more pennies then trying to make the smaller ones important again.
@@definesigint2823 what's more important is, what are their Insta''s?
@Shayne Punim For these testing they are not sequenced, but markers are used. The same method is used to identify humans (or other species) in crime investigation. Some markers are mostly found in Euroasia, Afrika or Australia. They are not more specific than that.
Sequencing the whole genome is way more expensive ;)
Not necessarily. My results were 87% British, and the rest was Sweden, Ireland, and germanic Europe. If you look through history, all of these migrations date back to the Indo-European people's. So technically, it is a pure ethnic result.
Please define "ethnic".
The problem is that they are Sicilian, like myself. We were original Greeks on the island, conquered by the Arabs, reconquered by the Franks, and the Normans. That is why their DNA is that way. Ancestry takes all that info and makes it Sicily, others break down the Sicilian mix. My DNA follows the history of the island and its conquers. That is why it is important to know history. Mystery solved. You are welcome.
I don't even know why they even wondered about them not having higher percentage of 'Italian' ancestry especially if their ancestors came from Sicily. They really need to read up on the history of Sicily much less Italy.
@asdf Because I am the result of the Sicilian inhabitants that were conquered by the Normans. And yes, there are blonde haired, light eyed Sicilians because of this. I also have Arab DNA as well because the town my family is from Sambuca di Sicilia was conquered by the Arabs at one time. Just as I have Lebanese friends who are blonde haired and light eyed because of the same conquerors.
@@ArtistGV You can get dark haired and dark eyed Northern European and blond haired and blue eyed Southern Europeans. It doesn't mean because someone has blond hair that they have a Viking in the woodpile or a Northern European has an Italian ancestor.
Greeks were conquerors too, they weren't the original inhabitants of the island.
@@TheAnarchistBeekeeper The Siculi were Phoenicians - most identify them as Greek.
That german to scottish ad though, now, fesls incredibly apt for me and my family. We grew up fully believing we were german. My maternal grandmother's surname was berghoff, we KNEW that family was german. Yet, when my mom and I tested our DNA, it showed we were only MINUTELY german. We were, however, primarily scottish.
While you could argue that it was just the "unsure" nature of genetics, the fact that we got proportionally accurate results struck us as weird. Turns out? My maternal grandfather was actually a 1st generation american. His parents? From scotland. He never even told his children, and because he was raised in San Fran he never had an accent himself.
My friend discovered her mother had an affair and who she thought was dad, wasn’t. Her mother tearfully fessed up.
I swabbed my dog
He’s from Russia apparently
That's funny af lol
🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂 What is wrong with you? Omg 🤣
Love
Love your comment about your dog! Took me totally by surprise never thought of swabbing an animal. It makes sense though, dogs have been man's best friend for many thousands of years.
Damnit. The funniest comment ever.. 🤣🤣🤣
Makes sence that you have a lot of greek, considering that southern Italy was a greek colony
@Clementina Yael Severina M. Apart from the fact that Sicily did not have mass immigration from north africa, and the same applies to albania, yeah.
@SicilianScoundrel not mass immigration but elite immigration or work immigration . nobody goes to another placce for no reason .
It's amazing at the wave of people settling in Sicily. Between the Greeks, Phoenicians, Romans, Moors, Normans, it really was a crossroad.
Yes their DNA is not shocking at all. Of course they have a lot of Balkan and Middle Eastern DNA, the Barbary Moorish pirates traveled all over there as well as the Roman Empire has had history with the Balkans for a very long time. Patriotism and Nationalism are silly for this exact reason.