Grundig MTB Downhill World Cup Kaprun 1993

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  • @stephenkohler3472
    @stephenkohler3472 Před 8 měsíci +14

    It's crazy how fast they were going on those sketchy bikes. Missy was so impressive!

  • @jorgschneider4907
    @jorgschneider4907 Před 4 lety +33

    I cant remember the exact year but i've been there with a friend. During a Training Run, i crashed my Marzocchi Xc500 forke with 50mm of travel, but marzocchi race Service repared it, so that i could Start at the race next Day. A great time....

  • @stinkyrainbow653
    @stinkyrainbow653 Před 4 lety +13

    Yeah...me in my twens and shredding the hills with my GT LTS...or RTS...don't remember, I had both. I was auch a GT Fanboy 😂. Had the Karakoram, Zaskar LE, RTS and LTS ... and a GT Perforner BMX😂. I miss those days so much. 😭

  • @judevenalian5008
    @judevenalian5008 Před 4 lety +59

    I guess the only requirement for "downhill" in those days was that the rider had to be going in a generally downhill direction?

    • @ol48spring
      @ol48spring Před 6 měsíci

      Totally. I started riding in the nineties. Looks like xc to me 🤙🏻

    • @S0ulinth3machin3
      @S0ulinth3machin3 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@ol48spring not on those bikes. You took a beating on those things. It was still quite violent. I remember one downhill section where I knew where I wanted to go, let go of the brakes and let it rip. My head was bouncing around so much I couldn't see. Was just hoping to stay on the trail. Didn't try that again, surely lost a lot of brain cells with the brain bashing against the skull like that.

  • @LhDiy
    @LhDiy Před 4 lety +15

    The 12 who voted thumbs down did not know how is was to MTB in that time. No or absent body protections, short shock travels, bar ends ...

    • @Adoogin
      @Adoogin Před 5 měsíci

      absent body protections? Looks like these guys are all kitted with motocross gear head to toe...

    • @LhDiy
      @LhDiy Před 5 měsíci

      You're right, in these kind of competitions, but not everywhere @@Adoogin

  • @kennyfenny4754
    @kennyfenny4754 Před 4 lety +25

    In 1993 they be like ''That dude has 50mm of travel and narrow stright bars, wow ?

    • @radiocontrolled9181
      @radiocontrolled9181 Před 4 lety +2

      In 1993 they didn't care much about bike spec . . . they measured 'dudes' by the size of their balls.

  • @keiko909
    @keiko909 Před 4 lety +18

    loud colours. yep, it must be the 90's

  • @trailchoice2229
    @trailchoice2229 Před 4 lety +74

    I wach this vid. 2020 and my bike has 180mm of Travel and the guys in Video ride faster then I with a Hardtail and Bad Brakes.

    • @danielstormy3660
      @danielstormy3660 Před 4 lety +10

      If you want win, you should not use brakes :-)

    • @calvacoca
      @calvacoca Před 4 lety +2

      And 5cm travel forks ! 🤪😁👍

    • @radiocontrolled9181
      @radiocontrolled9181 Před 4 lety +1

      @@danielstormy3660 Yes sure . . . try going round that bend at 23:10 without braking before . . . and you would certainly win ..... the open field face down in the soil :-)

    • @mariomoreno9954
      @mariomoreno9954 Před 3 lety +1

      today the halfwork is made by the bycicle, beyond the good riders of today, those time were gold for MTB.

  • @BLAZER1337
    @BLAZER1337 Před 4 lety +27

    Imagine travelling back in time and showing them the video of last year's Red Bull Rampage...

    • @abandoneduniverses
      @abandoneduniverses Před 2 lety

      Useless thoat...same to show a lazer gun to 1600 people

    • @mirak63
      @mirak63 Před rokem

      I looked at the one of 2022 and yeah ... czcams.com/video/EZVy-Wrncyg/video.html
      But back in the day they were doing normal stuff with shitty hardware and that looked pretty extreme because of that czcams.com/video/VzZkKE9Z35g/video.html

  • @AdrianSchwizgebel
    @AdrianSchwizgebel Před 4 lety +3

    Unvorstellbar dass der heutige OG und wohl ältester aktiver Fahrer Greg Minaar damals gerademal 12 Jahre alt war.

  • @dirtydave2691
    @dirtydave2691 Před 6 lety +18

    Missy Giove on that cool ass full suspension Yeti. Those were great days.

    • @JJ-ru5xr
      @JJ-ru5xr Před 5 lety +1

      And M.Rockwell
      gute alte Manitou .

    • @JTMarlin8
      @JTMarlin8 Před 5 lety

      6:34 apparently her name was Missy Ciove back then.

    • @JJ-ru5xr
      @JJ-ru5xr Před 5 lety

      @@JTMarlin8
      Ciove ? Just an error in the Vid?

    • @radiocontrolled9181
      @radiocontrolled9181 Před 4 lety

      Agreed. And yet . . . . a massive 26 seconds slower than Stiefl !!

    • @michaelbullen3104
      @michaelbullen3104 Před měsícem

      That’s one of the few bikes here I’m not that scared watching go downhill. That one looked fairly sturdy. Thee rest of them are riding off of what are basically Walmart forks lmfao their frames are good but half the shit slapped on them is ass

  • @jemen1709
    @jemen1709 Před 6 lety +14

    I remember those days very well. Tomacs Pearl Izumi skinsuit still kicks ass!!!!

  • @albenstabaku1501
    @albenstabaku1501 Před 4 lety +4

    Those bike hadn't paddle brake even and this bikers were the best ,courageous and masters.Bravo!

  • @Daniel.Berlin
    @Daniel.Berlin Před 3 lety +6

    52 oder 62 zu 11 Übersetzung. Da bekam man noch Speed drauf. 💪🏻

  • @miyui9269
    @miyui9269 Před 7 měsíci +3

    same difficulty as with today's races.
    back then, they road so fast on a pretty tame tracks using sketchy bikes. you still have to go as fast as possible and a crash can take you out for a season.
    now, we ride very technical terrain with reliable brake system on the most forgiving and comfortable bikes ever. ride as fast as possible and can take you out for a season if you crash as well.

  • @calinopincariu5530
    @calinopincariu5530 Před 4 lety +5

    Now and then... this looks like a very xc for now, it s even hard to say it is xc. Man, you went on your bike and you were rocket, good memories, that s the most important thing.

  • @calvacoca
    @calvacoca Před 4 lety +14

    Maybe it could be very interesting to add a full rigid bike category in DH contests 🤔

    • @radiocontrolled9181
      @radiocontrolled9181 Před 4 lety +1

      I believe that there are 90's downhill videos here on YT which are raced on full rigid. Try searching for the 1992 Grundig races. Many riders used full rigid.

    • @samblenkharn8099
      @samblenkharn8099 Před rokem

      Steve Peat famously got his first DH win on a rigid kona.

  • @thinkpadBentnoseTheBlind

    What? am I the only one to notice they spelled Missy's Giove's last name wrong at the first finish?

  • @Gazzaloddi-ml9ej
    @Gazzaloddi-ml9ej Před 4 měsíci +1

    I was riding Amp Research Forks in 1993

  • @josuagrub
    @josuagrub Před rokem +1

    So geil ❤ danke

  • @erichhudson2090
    @erichhudson2090 Před 4 lety +3

    Really great video. Excellent post!

  • @traviswoff
    @traviswoff Před 10 dny

    90's rocked

  • @Benini916
    @Benini916 Před 3 měsíci +1

    In today's standards, this is basically XC race.

  • @RK-mc8zy
    @RK-mc8zy Před 15 dny +1

    If you ever wanted to know where the term “euro” comes from it’s early MTB racing.

  • @Romin.777
    @Romin.777 Před rokem +2

    The lower the technology the higher the skills required.
    This time was my hayday too.
    :))
    My purple hubba bubba hubs in my Mountain Cycle.. *'sigh"*

  • @davidg7170
    @davidg7170 Před 3 lety +6

    For all those commenting that this course looks pretty tame - even back then that was the opinion. Google Cap-D'ail to see a ridiculous course from the same era.

    • @AthelstanEngland
      @AthelstanEngland Před rokem

      Cheers for that link - yikes!

    • @manchesterunitedno7
      @manchesterunitedno7 Před 9 měsíci

      and Megavalanche have been around since the 90s. so, yeah, the extreme ones always there.

  • @raceace
    @raceace Před 2 měsíci +1

    Can’t believe we survived with 55 mm of travel.

  • @budesmatpicu3992
    @budesmatpicu3992 Před 6 lety +16

    wow, nowadays more technical obstacles, jumping etc. in crosscountry than in '93 downhill

    • @neilgouws6962
      @neilgouws6962 Před 4 lety +2

      It's called evolution 🤔
      I was racing XC then and still the odd race today ..
      If I had my XC bike today , back then .... I would have been a professional !
      Back then , your XC bike was your down hill race bike too 🤭🤣
      Cheers 🇿🇦

  • @christianbarros1580
    @christianbarros1580 Před 9 měsíci +3

    An easy way to understand 90's downhill is: "Before this, there is nothing", no suspensions. no official races, no real brakes. This was the shit.

  • @user-bo4vm8de1t
    @user-bo4vm8de1t Před 4 lety +3

    Классные велосипеды делали раньше из нормальных комплектующих не то что сейчас

  • @michaelbullen3104
    @michaelbullen3104 Před 3 měsíci +1

    These old FRAMES were good, sure. Great even. Slap modern top class 26 parts all over it and some disc brake adapters with top tier disc brakes, some good bars, grips, the works, you have a pretty good old school new school hardtail mix, But those parts… Lmfao they SCREAM sketchy. Was waiting for a fork to snap at any second. The suspension on them looks Walmart esque lmfao Idk how they did it. Balls of steel.

  • @John-jh8yx
    @John-jh8yx Před 5 měsíci +1

    Cool ☺️😊

  • @seco86
    @seco86 Před 4 lety +1

    GT Forever

  • @ysfabd100
    @ysfabd100 Před 3 lety +19

    Not cool how future people make fun of these historical people and their bicycles..Ok we get it you have better bikes in 2020 and better clothing.. good for you! Enjoy them guess what people after you will be mocking you

  • @Oleksii_Popov
    @Oleksii_Popov Před 6 měsíci +1

    Кантилеверные тормоза... колеса 26"... Рулевые колонки на 1"

  • @johnhartmann5875
    @johnhartmann5875 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Die Moderatoren waren zum einschlafen, da halfen die Hintergrundinformationen auch nicht. Wegen denen habe alle abgeschaltet und das Fernsehformat wurde eingestellt.

  • @carlodosa7951
    @carlodosa7951 Před 3 lety +3

    I've just seen this video: I've just decided to restore my cousin's old bike and throw myself downhill in Trentino's woods

  • @reinaldomiranda9618
    @reinaldomiranda9618 Před 4 lety +2

    👏👏👏👏👏

  • @saraspitefull32
    @saraspitefull32 Před 2 lety +1

    Yarrrh 👍

  • @Malleluxusgirllarissa
    @Malleluxusgirllarissa Před rokem +1

    Gerhard Zadrobilek. Fuhr mit dem selben Bike XC und am nächsten Tag den Dh.

  • @HamsterWheelGaming
    @HamsterWheelGaming Před 2 lety +4

    4:49 *guy shreds down the road*
    4:52 Lady: Yeah sorry, not impressed...

  • @abritandhisbikeinpoland6802

    Those bikes have no handle bars!!!??

  • @Nonnenmacher87
    @Nonnenmacher87 Před 4 lety +6

    26" Inch Tires >

    • @knightsportsfc3s
      @knightsportsfc3s Před 4 lety +2

      ZoD I still ride my M3 Intense with 26in. I'll be shredding it in about 9hrs

    • @FelipeLuizDickmann
      @FelipeLuizDickmann Před 4 lety +1

      These kind of racing is like gravel riding now a days

  • @shiftlove
    @shiftlove Před 2 lety +1

    This is hilarious. No wonder their bikes could have minimal suspension. Those pads though. Damn. I bet I’ve had pedal strikes harder than anything they would have experienced lmao

  • @policematrixx
    @policematrixx Před 4 lety +1

    fair play to them

  • @donnovicki9771
    @donnovicki9771 Před 5 lety +1

    The Missile could fly.

    • @catbijoux1
      @catbijoux1 Před 4 lety

      True, but the other two girls smoked her.

  • @knightsportsfc3s
    @knightsportsfc3s Před 4 lety +3

    Send a like for old school.
    I have an Intense M3
    Comment below what your old bike was!!

    • @ethanbenton6676
      @ethanbenton6676 Před 4 lety +2

      2001 Rocky Mountain Blizzard, it’s still kickin’ it as a commuter

    • @sergarcarr
      @sergarcarr Před 4 lety

      Kona Manomano 1997. Still using it, a very nice ride and the V-brakes are the dream

    • @elvisderblasehase9522
      @elvisderblasehase9522 Před 4 lety

      1994 Trek 8000 ZX. I'm still riding it

    • @possibly8180
      @possibly8180 Před 2 lety

      1991 muddyfox seeker mega, it's falling apart and is a size too large since it was my dad's bike back in the day but I'd be damned if it isn't fun as fuck to ride lmao

  • @Kowinaida
    @Kowinaida Před 2 lety

    The bars are so narrow...it's one step away from just holding the stem to steer.

  • @paco_rider
    @paco_rider Před 3 lety +2

    Vibration party

  • @peppi0304
    @peppi0304 Před 4 lety +2

    13:30 fast alle fahren bereits schon mit einer gefederten gabel :D

  • @Hihopeyouhaveawonderfulday

    500mm bar width. Sketchy AF. Seriously why did no one think of runny wider bars back then?

    • @joshcheck7532
      @joshcheck7532 Před 4 lety +2

      Because that all ran 120mm stems to counteract the poor handling

    • @sergarcarr
      @sergarcarr Před 4 lety +3

      @@joshcheck7532 more stem than fork travel... That's fucking hardcore

    • @christianjimenez6004
      @christianjimenez6004 Před 4 lety +1

      Check the handle bar that John Tomac used on his bike . It was a roadbike handle bar .

    • @markjerham2478
      @markjerham2478 Před 4 lety

      I run 640mm and no problem going fast dh

    • @Hihopeyouhaveawonderfulday
      @Hihopeyouhaveawonderfulday Před 4 lety

      @@markjerham2478 Same, I can still ride fast on 680 bar. I just recently moved to 760's and they just offer more stability.

  • @mariusznaw2592
    @mariusznaw2592 Před rokem

    Magura Race Line... I'm still using those in my 95 rigid steel 26in mtb. However this bike is single speed these days I find it as perfect gravel bike.

  • @hedrick5286
    @hedrick5286 Před 4 lety +1

    Funny

  • @o_mtb1925
    @o_mtb1925 Před 4 lety +4

    Back than downhill track , today Green Beginners Trail

    • @aakos26
      @aakos26 Před 4 lety +4

      Question is: how fast you can bomb down on a green trail. Most of people are able to go down on blacks well, just matter time.

    • @radiocontrolled9181
      @radiocontrolled9181 Před 4 lety +2

      @@aakos26 The speed is directly proportional to the size of your balls.

  • @ethanbenton6676
    @ethanbenton6676 Před 4 lety +3

    More like “Fireroad bomb World Cup”

  • @Danstheman1357
    @Danstheman1357 Před 4 lety

    Needs skinnier bars

  • @lucacecchinato3797
    @lucacecchinato3797 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Che ricordi che gare e con che bike correvano mamma mia

  • @iliyadavoodipour6366
    @iliyadavoodipour6366 Před 4 lety +1

    i cant beleave how shitty mountainbikes were back then xD. ive doing mountainbiking for7months now and i think with my 120mm trailbike i could be one of the fastest at that race.

    • @calvacoca
      @calvacoca Před 4 lety +3

      Not sure at all ! 😉

    • @stewpleee
      @stewpleee Před 4 lety +1

      You ever rode a 20yrs old bike? Try downhill with that

    • @givemeakidney
      @givemeakidney Před 4 lety +5

      Don't miss yourself. Even back then those guys were AVERAGING 60+Kph down the course, pushing 44 tooth chain rings.

    • @lennidk1013
      @lennidk1013 Před 4 lety +7

      Don't think so. People crash today riding long slack bikes on 1,5 m. wide purpose build family friendly "trails" . Don't think you would smoke Tomac or Vouilloz just cause you got a modern bike 😉

    • @kona6812
      @kona6812 Před 4 lety +5

      Belive me, you wouldn't be in the Top 20 at least! I raced this course and know most of the contenter personally ,a bunch of bad asses! And look how the old guns shred today e.g. Nico Voullion! These race were highspeed races.