10 Most Difficult Video Game Puzzles
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- Here at Team TripleJump, there’s nothing we enjoy more than a good brainteaser but, every so often, we come across a puzzle that’s so tricky that we end up spending hours, if not days pondering the solution. With that in mind, we thought we should spotlight a few puzzles that left us completely flummoxed, whether it was just because our tiny brains were incapable of thinking laterally enough to come to a solution, or just because the game’s logic was so ridiculously warped. Here are the 10 Most Difficult Video Game Puzzles.
VO: Peter Austin (@ThatPeterAustin)
Script: Cat Elliot (@cat_elliott_)
Video Editor: Liam Carroll (IG: ThatGeordieLiam)
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As someone who's hard-of-hearing, I can confirm that Runescape is right - people are *always* firing ducks at me with their accordions to get my attention. Why, just today it must've happened a dozen times at work! "Enough with the ducks!" I say "I have a sound amplifier; I can hear you well enough!" Also, "Where are you all getting these accordions!?!" But _noooooo_ - stupid Runescape's "duck method" has been a thorn in the side of us all for too long! 😆🤣😆
sorry, did you say 'on with the ducks?' 'i can't hear you well enough?'
The Broken Sword port on the GBA has an infuriating bug that hit 50% of runs. When you get to the goat puzzle it would glitch out and you'd be unable to click what you needed to trap the goat and progress. The only way to get past is to restart the whole game and speedrun your way through and hope you don't get the glitch again.
I think the ds version made the puzzle easier though. They increased the time you had to move the plow I believe.
That's exactly what happened to me and few things infuriate me like that bug
@@wizzardoffuzz probably why they only let you do it 50% of the time
For #7, the remake of King's Quest 1 made its infamous puzzle a little easier, with the gnome telling you you were "close" if you guessed "Rumplestiltskin", and the solution being to simply spell it backwards (no substitution cipher).
The Kings Quest puzzle isn't required to beat the game. Just wanted to point that out. The gnome will give you one of two items depending on if you answer correctly and either of these items can be used to reach the clouds.
i'm surprised that damn Shakespeare puzzle in Silent Hill 3 wasn't on here.
Same here, Shakespeare puzzle is almost impossible to solve it if you don't know anything about Shakespeare.
At least the keypad puzzle in SH3 has all the information you need right there. The Shakespeare puzzle requires a small library of Shakespeare books, then reading through them. It was the first puzzle ever in my life I gave up and went online.
@@serioushex3893 Interesting factoid, but doesn’t contribute to making the puzzle any easier.
I've got a good one for you. From way, WAY back in 1988, Might & Magic 2. (SPOILER ALERT!)
Okay, In order to complete this game (something very few players were expected to do at the time) you need something called the Elemental Orb, which is located in a hidden part of Dawn's Mist Cavern. To access this hidden room, you need four items found in the game's four castles, and that alone isn't easy; once you get them, you are teleported into the room, which has no physical exit. Once you do this, you find the Orb itself prevents magic from working while there, making the fight with the Guardians difficult.
Once you defeat them, then comes the hard part; even after claiming the orb, magic still doesn't work, meaning you're trapped in the room unless you throw it away!
Solution: Bring a hireling along - preferably a powerful one who doesn't need magic to fight - and once you have the Orb, give it to the hireling. Then Dismiss the hireling. Leave the dungeon using magic, then meet up with the hireling and hire him again. He'll have the Orb in his inventory. And yes, this little bit of meta loophole abuse is the way you are supposed to do it.
One of my favourite games of all time is Zork Grand Inquisitor, which has a lot of puzzles that will troll you. My favourites are either the case with the sword and map that says "incase of adventure, break glass", but the hammer is also behind the glass. So you open the case, take the hammer, close the case and then break it.
Or the multi-tiered chess puzzle you need to complete to unlock a key item. You can mindlessly move chesspieces about all you want. The actual solution is to smash the whole puzzle with a stick.
Is it your favourite game because you know these solutions and find them funny or did you actually enjoy playing the game at the time and banging your head on the wall trying to figure them out?
@@JimiCanRead I did find them funny at the time. Some of them did take forever to figure out, but I cannot stay mad at it
That King's Quest one took me back. Holy crap that took me weeks until I finally had to WRITE THE COMAPNY and wait for the MAIL to get the answer to me!
Haha, that's a great story! Before the internet my dad would buy a book with solutions to a number of games puzzles. "Keys to the Kingdoms" I believe. There were many games listed in there we didn't have but I still liked to read through it all. I looked up some 7th Guest puzzles in it. Also, now that people have walkthroughs of games like Monkey Island on youtube, it only takes like what, 1-2 hours? I think I spent A YEAR playing those Lucas Arts games as a kid after school whenever my dad wasn't using the PC, surely months at least!
Man remember those days ?? Before the internet it took maybe a year to defeat mike tyson in mike Tysons punch out
you missed the mother of all hard puzzles "The challenge" from the witness. also the plastic explosives from Beneath a steel sky. Yes game devs, finding a necessary item that's literally a SINGLE PIXEL is great game design.
In Simon the Sorcerer, you had to sneak past a sleeping monster/demon. Part of the solution was to "USE magic wand ON beagle" in order to turn a dog into a pair of fluffy slippers that would make your footsteps silent. It's been a while since I played but I'm sure there was 0 precedent or any kind of clue this could be done. An annoying case of "use every item with every other unrelated item" or "look up a walkthrough".
The Broken Sword one isnt so difficult because of what to do, it is when to do it. You can only grab the machine when on your arse knocked down from the goat. The interact icon does appear normally, but just results in the goat knocking you down. There are no other puzzles in the game that rely on timing, so there was no suggestion you had to do it at a specific moment and the puzzle appeared to be broken. Going to the exit on the left or machine on the left both make the goat knock you down and... that's it, there is nothing else to do or interact with. I only solved it myself by luck, clicking around the screen and screaming in frustration at coincidentally the right moment
To make matters worse, part of that section of the game requires you to transport a soggy bar towel past the goat, and players might be rushing to get past him on their first playthrough or even assume the time restriction of the bar towel drying out means it's a factor in the successful completion of the puzzle.
Simply going to copy and paste my comment... Says it all!
"I WAS WAITING WITH BAITED BREATH FOR THE GOAT PUZZLE! I have no shame admitting that this maybe why I have a bald patch on my head and this kept me going for HOURS!!!
Having bought the remasters - It is SO DAMN EASY that I now whizz through tis puzzle but when I first came across it... DAMN DID I RAGE!"
I'm surprised you included that Silent Hill 3 puzzle and not the one with Shakespeare's books
I remember playing through the not very well known adams ventures game and the solution to a puzzle apparently was to do with the bible 🤷♂️ which I pretty much no nothing about, so had no other option but looking it up on a walkthrough
I solved the "Longest Journey" one by trial and error. Took, to the best of my recollection, three hours or so.
There's a section later on where you have to get a character to say a line of dialogue. I could never manage that, even going through the exact stages that the Internet told me was correct, so... game over.
But... my brother and I solved the soup cans without spoilage. WE SOLVED THE SOUP CANS. Fear us!
Clock Tower 2. You'll randomly be killed partway through the game, and the only way to avoid being killed is by examining a suit of armor at a very specific point near the beginning of the game.
There's a reason it's the worst in the series.
So many Sierra games back in the day had bullshit like that.
King's Quest V has you throw a pie in the face of an advancing yeti at one point to have it stumble off a cliff. If you don't have the easily missable pie? You're screwed. If you ate the pie because your character WILL starve to death on the mountain if you don't eat something? You're screwed. The other food item you can eat is a roast, but if you eat the whole thing? You're screwed. And if you give the whole thing to a starving eagle? You're screwed. You have to eat half of it, AND save the pie.
This is to say nothing of the part in the same game where if you don't throw a shoe at a cat chasing a rat, the rat can't save you when you're tied up in a basement later...oh and in that same basement, if you haven't already gotten the hammer? You're STILL screwed.
That game's runtime was so artificially inflated with impossible puzzles...damn charming game, though.
The Resident Evil water test always got me
The piano on Silent Hill did too.
Oh yes that piano puzzle pain in the arse I figured out the water sample twice now
The Jindosh Lock puzzle in Dishonored 2 deserves an honorable mention. It's a combination mechanism that has two rows of five: the top row being a series of names and the bottom being a series a emblems. There's an elaborate riddle to give the player the correct combination, and it's different with every playthrough. The only reason it's not really difficult is because the player can just get or steal the answer by entering the adjacent district. However, unless you've got a pen and pad or want to use process of elimination, figuring out the combination from the riddle, alone, is quite difficult.
A hacky Einstein Riddle
Im 37. I dont have time to spend hours searching the area or flipping levers anymore just to solve a puzzle and keep playing. If a puzzle is taking me more than 10-15 minutes im youtubing that shit.
For me, the one puzzle I used to be stuck on, that still sticks with me to this day, is the Chocolate Code puzzle in Professor Layton and the Curious Village.
You're supposed to decode the letters on the chocolate. When you find out how to solve it, a bunch of emotions kick in all at once.
I'd never think of that solution in Metal Gear 2 without consulting the ol' dubya dubya dubya.
I immediatly thought of the SH3 puzzle, glad to see it made it into the list... we really need a new Silent Hill game
Gaining access to the wolf pen in Gabriel Knight: The Beast Within. While you are given a clue as to the mechanic you need to use (and it only has this one use), the details of the solution are so specific that even if you have the right idea, you are highly unlikely to come up with the correct answer yourself.
I always remember the game red guard. You get turned into a mouse or something and communicate through the sounds of he creature generate which are not connected to what’s selected on the screen.
The bable fish puzzle would probably get a chuckle out of me the second or third time but I would imagine it would get repetitive.
I was about 8 when I first played Kings Quest (and not dead yet, amazingly), and I think we either read through the hint book at the computer store (they later made you use a revealing marker to stop this), or you called the hint line. I also somewhat remember a friend finding the name in the code (wasn't that crazy since it was a very IF:THEN code that even children could understand). It does seem crazy that anyone figured it out the "right" way though...
Fellow kid of the 80s, same here, we could not solve it without having the hintbook on hand to give away the solution.
I must be a genius cuz i solved that garlic bottle puzzle on my own (prob used hints). I feel the chocolate bar puzzle from the first game was more obscure
Funny timing: I only recently looked up what the infamous "cat hair mustache" puzzle actually was, after hearing it as shorthand for so long, and JESUS WEPT! To reiterate from the video: You have to construct a fake mustache to impersonate someone WHO DOESN'T HAVE A FUCKING MUSTACHE!!
That is the most bass-ackward puzzle design I have EVER heard, and proof that "complex" and "complicated" are not the same things, and shouldn't be regarded as such.
I grew up on the infocom and Magnetic Scrolls games which contained some of the most brutally difficult games ever made. Oh, and Discworld could go do one, that thing was beyond difficult.
Crazy thing. Kings Quest was not a text game. So yes. You do use the keyboard or a joystick to move Graham around. Not sure where you all got the info for that. It is a text parser. Meaning to do other things like search or take you type that in or use a key shortcut.
I'm currently playing through SMT3 and the Puzzle Boy minigame gets pretty intense. the final level of it takes 50 individual steps, I genuinely think you'd need a galaxy brain IQ to do it without consulting a guide
Not a puzzle but obtaining the TM Dig in Pokemon Gold Silver was quite bizarre, you had to walk through a break in the fence, yet it was the same as all the rest of the fences
That Kings Quest Gnome puzzle has got to be the best puzzle in the history of games..
Still Life for the original XBOX.
The game is made up of maddeningly nonsensical puzzles, but having to make cookies with the below recipe was not a fun time.
"1 Cup Love
1/2 Generosity
2 Cups Commitment
1 Cup Sweetness
1/2 Cup Integrity
1 Tablespoon of Romance
1 Teaspoon of Sensuality
1 Common Sense"
And if anybody is wondering what that actually means...
"1 Cup Milk
1/2 Cup Butter
2 Cups Flour
1 Cup of Brown Sugar
1/2 Cup Molasses
1 Tablespoon of Ginger
1 Teaspoon of Cinnamon
1 Egg"
I've only recently played Day of the Tentacle (even though I'm very much old enough to have played it at release) and the part where a thunderstorm will only start after you wash the carriage made me the most angry I've ever been at an adventure game. I used a guide from then on because I didn't trust the game not to waste my time anymore.
Dammit! Someone beat me to it!
The game actually gives you a hint if you try to wash the car as Bernard in present day.
This wouldn't come close to making a top 10 or even a top 100 for me as an avid adventure gamer. It's a bit silly and it's a reference to the joke about washing your car (or hanging your laundry) but it might be one of those things that's dated now.
I just completed DotT recently. I remember figuring out that you needed to wash the carriage for some reason and I remember being surprised by the storm suddenly appearing. Does Hoagie comment on the carriage being dirty if you look at it? I don’t remember. However I figured it out, I knew the carriage needed to be washed and I remember trying to figure out how to get the soap so I could wash it.
As I was trying to figure out how to get the soap, I was assuming that the solution in mind was to get George Washington to go on a carriage ride, but he was too arrogant to ride in a dirty carriage… or something like that. The sudden appearance of the storm totally shocked me because that’s not what I was expecting.
You have Silent Hill 3 on the list, but not for the hard version of the Bookshop Puzzle? Hope you're all brushed up on your Shakespeare knowledge.
Shakespeare puzzle is definitely the hardest puzzle in the franchise, even harder than the poem and the bloody piano.
I always go to the internet after giving puzzles a hardy try. Unless of course the game is based around puzzle solving. I just kind of want to beat the game, I dont want to fiddle around with nonsense for hours when I could just *beat the game* if I get that little hint.
I WAS WAITING WITH BAITED BREATH FOR THE GOAT PUZZLE! I have no shame admitting that this maybe why I have a bald path on my head and this kept me going for HOURS!!!
Having bought the remasters - It is SO DAMN EASY that I now whizz through tis puzzle but when I first came across it... DAMN DID I RAGE!
I hate when there is a game you are really enjoying playing and the only way to to advance is by solving the puzzle, it’s like the devs want you to look up the solution as a lot of the time the answers are so obscure
That owl guard thing is just plain bad. No other way of putting it it’s impossible to ignore the logic of “how does he not notice it’s not night he’s outside” like you can’t say that’s “overthinking it” or something especially for a god damn puzzle game that’s supposed to take brains
It's clear y'all never played King's Quest, because yes you did move the character with the keyboard as well as typing in commands
Yeah but that’s in no way related to the puzzle, so it’s a minor gripe
@@Merricat_likesu it would be if they didnt specifically say you don't move the character around.
With that said, the puzzle IS bullshit - but they also failed to mention that if you can't solve it, the gnome gives you an item to solve the quest in another (more annoying) way.
@@Godzilla1982 it would be if the video were on the game itself, it’s a big error in terms of describing the game but not the puzzle in question. It’d be similar to mentioning the Terminator being in WWE2k16 but incorrectly citing Arnold going in the WWE hall of fame in 2013 instead of 2016, it’s factually very wrong but irrelevant to the topic actually being discussed
@@Merricat_likesu if you're implying that failing the puzzle fails the game it is tired to the puzzle. Sorry. Shut up
@@obzcure no. What I’m saying is that the error is a big one in the general context of the game, but that error has nothing to do with the puzzle so it’s less of an issue here.
You had a giant mop head? Fascinating.
6:15, did I just get gnomed?
I swear I'm real, I'm just usually on lunch watching Judge Judy when you guys post.
I don't remember what game it was from, but I do remember playing Escape From Monkey Island and them referencing a puzzle using a rubber chicken with a pulley in the middle.
The Monkey Island puzzle that always threw me was the one where you need to beat a pirate in a musical contest. How do you accomplish this? By SHOOTING HIS INSTRUMENT WHILE HE'S PLAYING, which somehow only damages the guitar whilst somehow not pissing him off.
The Babelfish puzzle... nay the ENTIRE HhgttG game was a beautiful exercise in trolling. There was an item you could miss early on (the mail) that would make the game unfinishable, except you wouldn't know that for about a third of the game. At that point, you couldn't do anything except start over from the beginning.
I'm surprised the Pokémon Ruby/Sapphire Regi puzzles aren't on here. I had a crazy pain in the ass time with those ones as a kid
The one floor pattern puzzle in uncharted 3 baffled me for hours you had to walk left right left then far right to open the wall to advance
One of the main reasons I hate puzzles in games is you think oh ok I’ll try various things to solve it and sometimes the conclusion is so ridiculous and obscure you would never think of the solution without looking it up on the internet, also hate games that give you a puzzle to solve and doesn’t let you progress through the game until you complete it 😡😑
Day of the tentacle. The beauty pageant puzzle is crazy
The most difficult puzzle to solve is trying to understand why someone wouldn't be subscribed to TripleJump.
Megaman Battle Network 5. There's a door with an 8 digit code. The only hint is "Double 1 and 9 too tonight makes 11"
The answer is 11922911. Yeah...
Sounds like a "say it out loud" hint to me, but that's definitely not something you'd think of while actually _playing._
MGS2: there are ingame hints that clearly state that the guards are used to the owl hooting as measurement of time. Combine this knowledge with the laser being turned off at night and you may get an idea. Not the hardest puzzle.
I nomitate ultima iv that - at the very end of the game - right before the outro - asked the player one final question which seemed philosophical but no reasonable answer would be accepted and no NPC would provide a hint unlike every one of previous dozen of questions that the game asked right before that. Instead the player should have recorded symbols that occured at specific events throughout the entire open-world game depending on player progress, transcoded them from runic alphabet and arranged in an order that was never specified as being important - nothing ingame ever hinted any of this should have been done.
Whats worse, some versions of the game apparently booted the player out of extremely long and arduous final dungeon.
I guess I have a different definition of "hard puzzle". Most of the puzzles mentioned here just have some kind of obtuse presentation style as the root cause of frustration. Whether you end up stumbling across the answer is seemingly more random chance or just brute-force trial and error rather than genuine lateral thinking. A good "challenging puzzle" would require the user to, for instance, take previously established puzzle mechanics and apply them in a particularly innovative way.
Usually I’m an idiot and can’t solve even the basic of puzzles, but I’m quite happy to say I got the MG2 one first try.
Genuinely surprised "Solve the soup cans" isn't on here.
How about almost every puzzle from Discworld on PC?
I’ll be honest. I will always try to figure them out, and unless they are as complex or bordering on the absurd as the ones mentioned here, I won’t check the web for help. I don’t often play puzzle games themselves, but there are puzzles in all game genres so it’s impossible to avoid them completely. 😅 If my game progress is impeded by a puzzle, and I fail after 5 to 10 tries, or lock it outright, I will reload and look up the answer online. 😡 The older the game, the craziest the puzzle will be, so I’ll literally have the web page opened at the same time, I won’t even bother trying to figure out how the brains of the 90’s work. Sorry but I just don’t have the time. 👀 Thanks for this great video! 👍
Yeah I have absolutely no idea how people managed to solve puzzles in the 90’s before the internet
It's sad, you seem to don't know "Ripper" (1996) from Take Two Interactive. This list would have been full with puzzles only from that game.
The Runescape bit was just glorious.
WOW. that text based hitchhikers game was the 1st game I had on my 1st computer! That computer had a black and amber screen and didn't have a hard drive.
How did you figure out the Babel fish thing
Hah, I never twigged on to the fact that that the custard was an aphrodisiac (because it had been made by Nanny Ogg) and that's why you needed it to liven up the squid.
How did you miss Takeshi's challenge?
Oh that Goat puzzle... Back then I had someone else to look up the solution on the internet, because I still didn't have a computer (and therefore internet) myself.
4:49 that’s pretty normal for a metal gear guard tho have u not seen them not give a second look at a wimping angel cardboard box
What does this teach us? Old games were way better at ridiculously hard puzzles. Grim Fandango, Full Throttle, Monkey Island. To be fair when the first Monkey Island came out, I think I was 9.
tbh I find those games' puzzles to be overly obtuse to the point of barely making any sense and not being fun to do or satisfying to figure out. absolutely cannot stand that whole genre lol
should have added HareRaiser, the expensive yet crappy puzzle game where the prize was a very pricey pendant. nobody e ever figured it out and it's assumed that the game has no actual solution, unlike the original book which led to an actual location where a pendant rested.
Yeh, one and two were exactly what I was expecting
the monkey wrench in Monkey Island 2 was impossible for non americans!
happened to me as well, and I don't even know what that type of wrench is called in my own language... I was also stuck for months with the bucket of mud from the swamp that you needed to hang above Largo's door.
I completed Gabriel Knight 3 but I don't remember that puzzle at all. I do remember the guy who rented the motorbike though, because he was voiced by Rene Auberjonois.
The original a Silent Hill ‘Piano Puzzle’ should’ve been in this list it was extremely difficult at the time.
Wasn't that hard and there is no twisted logic, all the clues are there. Good puzzle IMO
not a single Stupid Invaders entry?!
This could have been titled "Why I don't bother with point and click adventure games."
Bone Puzzle, The Dig
That is all
Wow, didn't even give a mention to Fez and its very impossible final puzzle with only a handfull of people accidentally getting the solution to
I'd suggest having a crack at 'Lock' on PS4/5's 'Dreams'.
I've been at it for months, and I've only 56% solved it.
I spent about 4 hours yesterday getting absolutely nowhere.
Did you just make a Poirot reference? Are the writers at Triple Jump around 40 years of age, or is he just that much more popular in the UK? And both The Hitchhiker's Guide and the Discworld series of novels and games are why I stay alive.
They're about my age so between 34 & 38 it's why I like these guys on their own I hate people my age acting like they're teenagers into everything new like no that's not how being nearly 40 works lol
@@WhatwouldRoddyPiperdo yeah, that's a good point. I'm 40 myself, so I got a real kick out of the reference, myself. And I absolutely hate it when presenters act like screaming children in a video.
@@DeathMetalDerf 38 here. Yo we made it to adulthood a lot of people haven't made it this far 👊 keep on brother.
@@WhatwouldRoddyPiperdo Thanks! Same to you!
Poirot is probably more popular in the UK than the USA, but the character has had two major release movies in the last five years, so I wouldn't say it's obscure.
Tomb Raiders puzzles had been a great problem to me, and i was always running to CZcams to see a gameplay to pass those puzzles
It really makes you wonder how it could have been possible to solve some of these puzzles without the internet I guess you would just have to give up and never advance in the game
Roberta Williams...just Roberta Williams.
Discworld is just plain hard but again for some reason it was logical, the main reason I figured this out was probably a Terry Pratchett fan and had read all the books.
Man I literally never heard of any of these games!!
Leaving this obscure horror game here in case anybody has played it. "injection π23 (no name, no number)" every puzzle is kind of a doozy
This list could be full of text adventures
The #%^%(#&^ rubber ducky from The Longest Journey has scarred me for years.
I'm currently stuck on the floor puzzle in Onimusha: Warlords...apparently it's randomized, which is so much more aggravating than just my autistic brain struggling to figure out the damn puzzle to begin with
I am honestly surprised that something from The Monkey Island series wasn't on here! That game destroyed my logic as a child 😅
Those games had some tricky puzzles but I can't think of any as obscure as those in the video! Maybe turning JoJo the Monkey into a wrench to turn off the waterfall? At least there's the "monkey wrench" connection there.
a puzzle I liked, but was too hard to figure out for me were the word combinations in Toonstruck, in order for the contraption to work you had to complete several blanks ___ & ____, one of these was heart &____, the answer was soul which alone required some guessing, so you needed 'a sole' which was a fish that you could only take from a fish game, where you could also take five other fish types. How was I supposed to know that, for a non english speakers these types of fish are named totally different in my language.
Tormented souls had a couple good ones.
I came into this thinking "the duck is gonna be in there". And it was.
Any puzzle in the The Mystery of the Druids - some of them soft lock the game others need insane logic. A fun letsplay done by MandaloreGaming is great to watch!
To be fair to kings quest, if you fail the gnome puzzle you get less points and a different path to take. It isn't a game over. I'm guessing they didn't know.
Any puzzle that requires lateral thinking to complete should summarily executed...
This list is also known as "Peter slowly submerge into the an abyss of madness and impatience". Love it!
SNES Lufia 2
I was suprised to see Runescape but to be fair I've never played RS3.
I mean RuneScape has always had some pretty nonsensical puzzles in it.
Its become clear to me that none of you did the glyph puzzles in Assassin's Creed 2.
The sign post in grim fandango was sooopo poorly thought out and so stupid in an otherwise near flawless game
Who didn't figure out that Professor Layton cork puzzle?
Crypt puzzle in Alundra.
Funfact about Discworld: Tiffany Weh is a way more enjoyable protagonist than any other character in the series. And that albeit she seldom ventures outside of her native Chalklands.
Granted, having huge geoglyphes around you all the time is probably desirable for young witches. Even if Nanny Ogg used to be sure that Tiffany was no good because "chalk is way too soft for a witch to grow on".
Hard? More like "obtuse"
Like spike everyone!
Hello guru larry