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Departure and Docking Under Sail
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- čas přidán 9. 05. 2020
- This video will demonstrate examples of upwind, cross-wind, and downwind departures and dockings under sail.
The techniques demonstrated here are just one of many ways taught at Cal Sailing Club. By no means is this the only way or the right way.
In each situation, crew communication and good sail trim are essential for success. It's also highly advised to have a backup and backup of a backup plan in case the boat is going too fast, or too slow.
Disclaimer: Many marinas do not allow docking under sail. This video is meant as a backup technique in case of mechanical issues or emergency. Use of a motor during docking is strongly advised.
I don't know how you could do a better video. Just prefect with the different views and your calm directions. Saved it to my watch later. Seems like it would be very good practice to anchor a float in a quiet area and sail to it from different directions. I have a nice Venture 25 and CL16 in mid Michigan to learn on. Looks like lots of interest of sailing alone including me being Widowed 7 years. Thanks for the great video.
Thats some old school sailing. Looks fun to try.
Its remarkably well filmed, not to mention the outstanding explanation and of course performance.
Thank you!
Thank you! glad you enjoyed it and found it useful.
@@carolynbrown1563 Yeah good video, I only sank two vessels so far! Getting the hang of it soon, I hope. :)
Love the aerial and helm views! Tragically underrated video, they should show this in classes.
Please share this with any classes you know of. Glad we could help.
This is possibly the best video out there about this topic. Excellent!! It would be amazing to see more videos in this style. Thank you!
This is awesome! I would not hesitate to call it THE BEST instructional video out there. Well done!
Thank you very much for this very calm, relaxing and informative description. Much better than many hectic sailing videos.
Glad you appreciated it. Staying calm is important to successful sailing.
Oh well then I'm stuffed😅
Excellent! Thanks so much. We have no motors where I sail and this opened up more possibilities for departure and docking than I knew.
Very nicely done, and very well presented.
The first J24 I saw was late 70 ‘s it was yellow and had a picture of Woodstock on the hull. The guy left the dock did a figure 8 and returned to the dock. All under sail from the spar alone. Very impressive. It was love at first sight. MYC Muskegon Mi. Big lake sailor!
The best video on this topic. Thank you very much for sharing the info.
I used to always leave the slip, and return, including sailing through draw bridges without motor, if possible. I like to know that if I need to use motor I could, but if something happened to motor, I could manage without it.
Other things I used to do was practice anchoring a lot. Having a good anchor, and knowing how to use it, can be difference between good night sleep, and waking up ever time you hear a bump. And use to go out by myself, intentionally get hit by strong wind, say approaching thunderstorm with full sails up, and learn how to reef and reduce sail in emergency condition, all by myself. Knowing your boat, and yourself is key.
Another thing I would suggest if you are new to sailing, is to race. You really learn a lot about sail trim, currents, wind shifts. while racing, that a quiet boat, is a fast boat, and taking actions quickly isn't necessarily the fastest. The other think you learn, particularly off shore racing or cruising is that early preparation can keep you out of trouble
Thank you very much for such a good instruction video! Very clear with two points of view.
Thanks, glad you find this helpful
Great contribution to those of us learning to sail. Thank you.
Very Nice video Thank you, i learned something new, usually , docking downvind I would turn the Boat 180° and let the Wind and sails slow the Boat . Allways Nice to learn something new like in this exelent tutorial !
I'm very impressed. Great sailing, great instructors. 👍
absolutely superb sailing, filming and commenting. Bravo and thank you guys!
Excellent guide, more of these handy examples please!
Thanks you for your support, we will be making more videos. What topics are you interested in?
@@carolynbrown1563 I often sail alone and are always looking for tips and tricks for handling the boat more easily and securely alone. Reefing the main can be troublesome sometimes and anchoring, just off the top of my head. Sail trimming advice. Installation of instruments, solar panels etc are also interesting.
Fantastic camera angles and annotations of wind direction and boat drawings. A+ all around this is the most helpful docking under sail video I've seen yet. I'd love to see something like this for single-handed docking / undocking under sail
Thank you. There are some folks in Berkeley who does single-handed docking, I may ask them if it's okay to film. Hopefully once COVID is over, we can do more instructional videos.
@@jackchen5290 cheers, I've just recently started docking BJKs under sail and I find myself doing better/worse without much insight as to why
@sameeransari Our club has very few sailors who are permitted to single-hand. Since we all share club boats it's important for us to practice and promote safety and crew communication/interactions. But like Jack said we could ask one of them to demonstrate.
@@carolynbrown1563 no worries, your club boats are larger so that makes sense, at CWB these are exactly the boats/dock I've been docking with lately czcams.com/video/WaoO8zGB2h8/video.html , so smaller boats and easier docking conditions which is much more manageable single-handed.
@@satellitesam I visited the Center for Wooden Boats in September, I love the fleet of boats you guys have as well as the museum. I didn’t schedule my on water test in time to check a boat out, but I do hope to sail on Lake Union next time I visit Seattle.
Amazing work everyone. Thank you for posting this!
Great job on this video. The split screen was perfect.
One of the best videos I seen. Hope you make more. ☺ Thank you.
The best demonstration of sailboat maneuvers that I have seen. Thank you so much for the hard work of creating this video.
Great video….very helpful. It’s that rudder braking….I need to learn how!
Great job. I usually just anchor out if I can't get the engine running😅 probably not so easy in socal. 😁👍🏻👍🏻✌🏻
Best example video Ive seen.
素晴らしい動画です。
とても参考になりました。
Overall great teaching video, I just can't for the life of me, think why you would not face into the wind when arriving to the dock as is usual!
A tip I found useful to practice skills as a novice without the risk of damaging other boats was to visualize a quiet marker buoy as the end of a pontoon and maneuver up to it.
Great video! The multiple camera views are super helpful...
Excellent in every way
very well done!
Thank you! Great camera views and explanations!
Y'all make it look TOO easy!
It is easy if your practice...a lot.
That was fun! I love the drone + gopro combination.
Excellent video and presentation. A big help. Thank tou
Thank you
Very nice filming and explanation!
thank you!
Why didn't the crew step off with an aft spring line? Is it because the boat is so small/light or would that pivot the stern away without a motor?
Great video! Thank you!
The crew steps off wherever they can easily reach for the shrouds to hold the boat alongside the dock.
@@damondanieli hey Damon, fancy seeing you here! When you come to the SF bay, so let me know and we should to sailing here!
@@jackchen5290 absolutely! And vice versa! I’m going to practice these docking under sail techniques (on a monohull) this month or next.
Patience is the key.
Well done video, thank you!
Muito bom! Parabéns pelo vídeo.
In Switzerland, you need a sailing licence to sail on Lake Leman, and demonstrate you can do everything only with sails...
Sounds like govt over reach....
That's cool. It would be nice if all sorts of licenses required actual skills demonstration (looking at US drivers).
Awesome video! Is there a good technique to departure against the wind ? Is the only way to give the boat a good push and then use the jib to sail away?
Love this! Thank you
Wow...Amazing photographic angles!
How did you do that??
Splendid! 👍👍👍
Great video!
Hi Dan, thank you for the comment. Hope to see you around in Berkeley.
Fabulous
awesomeness 😎
great video and production values. my only real question on the 3rd part is... if your going to go through the trouble of turning the boat around in the slip, why not just back out and go? LOL
Thanks for the reply. the reason we turned the boat around is that we can sail out under jib alone going forward out of the slip. I don't know how we can back out under sail.
Outstanding!!! Can you do all this with a 15T crousing boat?
Bravo, one of the best videos on docking/casting under sail. What boats does the club use for training?
We use Merit 25 (shown) and Pearson Commander for instruction.
@@jackchen5290 thank you
Skipper, don’t stop the boat by holding the top of the stanchions. But otherwise good instruction. Good to practice with the engine ticking over in neutral as the “get out of jail free card” if it all goes wrong.
this is real sailing.
ohhh i love a merit:D
Amazing.
Love the video technique. But have some issues with the content.
Upwind yes, crosswind fine. But why would you ever choose to dock downwind on a dock where you can do a perfectly controlled upwind docjlking? It is completely artificial and pointless.
Hi Peter, thank yo for the comment. You are absolutely right that the particular downwind docking demonstrated in the video could have been done upwind. The wind gods was fortunate to give us opportunity to do a cross-wind and up-wind docking on the day we filmed, but unfortunately it didn’t clock in the direction that would have allowed us to do a good downwind docking. However, we hope that the concept demonstrated here will provide some help to the audience in the case that a downwind docking is needed. Here’s a link to a demonstration of an excellent downwind docking into a downwind slip. They tacked upwind, dropped the sails, and then slowly docked into the slip. czcams.com/video/AyEKMBLlDTo/video.html. Hopefully after this COVID thing passes, we can sail again here in Berkeley and I hope to make more videos then
@@jackchen5290 I guess you're right, sometimes we do strange things in the name of teaching. I hadn't seen the zig zaf trick with the helm before. Does that work in heavier winds too? I'll try it first chance I get.
@@PetervanGinneken hi Peter, I think you are asking whether the rudder braking we used during downwind docking works for higher winds. I think using the rudder to brake only works on a boat with tiller, it’ll also depend on how far to one side the rudder can move. I’ve only tried it in lighter winds and where I have a bailout plan.
@@jackchen5290 that's OK, the boats I teach and usually sail on myself all have tillers that can come over 90 degrees if need be. But I will test it with plenty of room to spare and find out. It's definitely an interesting trick.
@@jackchen5290 the zig zag works with wheel boats and larger boats, just making a lot of turbulence slows you way down
Wow you make that look so easy lol
Sure looked like the engine was on and in gear. How is this departure under sail??? But, nice vid, vert informative
Than you for the comment. Outboard was left down, but was not running. The sound you hear in the upwind departure / docking was from the neighboring boat. Btw, from the drone and cockpit camera you can also see that that no one ever touched the outboard to change throttle or change gear during all the demonstration.
👍 x3
Have you got one of these solo?
Also, great video btw 👍
Our club has very few sailors who are permitted to single-hand. Since we all share club boats it's more important for us to practice safety and crew communication/interactions.
Nice. Can we see that again in a F5? :-)
Now. do it single-handedly, just skipper. :)
Now do that in 30 knots 😊
Crew? Nice luxury. My family never wants to sail. 😂
I'll sail with you 😁 unless ur a nutter, then nevermind 😂
The wind conveniently not coming from dead astern. Try leaving then😁
Hi Brendan, thanks for noticing that downwind departure was not in the video. We filmed a departure with wind coming from dead astern, but decided it wasn’t worth including due to its simplicity. You’d simply disconnect the line and the wind will propel you off the dock.. Once you are off the dock, raise the jib, turn upwind, and raise the main. czcams.com/video/p1zN7GXa2E0/video.html
Thanks Jack, I meant if the boat was moored stern to wind at the dock
@@brendancarroll9376 Hi Brendan, in this scenario where the wind is pushing you into the slip, you certainly cannot sail out. The way we can depart without engine is to use a long dock line to pull the boat to the opposite dock, stern in. You can see an empty slip at 4:56. From that slip, you can now do both an upwind or a downwind departure, depending on whether you are stern or bow in. This, of course, will take a while and most of us will just turn on the engine and motor out.
@@jackchen5290 Why not use a paddle? We are moored at poles with the stern windward (to shallow to back up). If it not to windy we simply pulling out hard aganist the wind, then hoist the sail and steer away. If the wind is to hard we use a paddle..
the first launch i can hear the motor....
Yes, the boat next to use was idling their outboard
Appropriate music....
Looks easy 🙄