Single Biggest Reason Why You Should Acetone Dip Your Coins - Will it Restore Value?
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I'm like the person prior to me, I was looking for demo on Acetone cleaning
This is super interesting to me. A few years ago my husband showed me a collection of silver Canadian Olympic coins he had gotten when he was a kid. They were stored in PVC and looked a lot like your Morgan dollar example. I am both a numismatic and a silver smith: the prior giving me knowledge that you shouldn't clean coins, yet PVC damage can increase with time, and the latter giving me knowledge that the mildest solution possible to remove stuff from silver is 7-up. He wanted to keep and preserve the coins, not sell them and agreed to let me try it. I started with just one that he had a duplicate of, filed a small glass with 7-up and watched it bubble around the green areas. When the bubbling died down I would change out the old pop for new. Eventually the coin had no more green slime. I rinsed with clean water and lightly patted dry. The coins look great and it removed all the PVC damage without rubbing. It may take longer than harsher chemicals (a few took several hours) but it's a good alternative. I did not know that dipping was accepted at this time and was only trying to prevent the coins from deteriorating further.
did you ever try to get one slabbed after this kind of cleaning? what was the result?
Dipping still isn’t accepted. It comes back as cleaned and destroys all numismatic value and is worth nothing more than melt value
7-Up? I know it contains carbonic acid.
@@BAlvn-yr6ej no, we did not get any of them slabbed. He only wants to keep the coins for nostalgic reasons. He never intends to sell them.
@@samgardner4667 dipping in acetone is unacceptable?
Mix hydrochloric acid , vinegar , milk and 10W-30 motor oil with the acetone . Get a stiff wire brush and an anvil . Call hazmat to dispose of the toxic mixture you made . put the wire brush back in the toolbox , ignore the anvil. Send your coins to PCGS for conservation . Or keep your coins dirty and claim it shows character .
I just use aqua regia, especially to clean my gold coins.
Your an idiot
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Notchormama spot on
@@rayperez2397 he sure is...lol
I thought for sure you where going to give a demo of you dipping your coins!
BlueRidgeSilverhound I have to check that video out, thank you, I recall you referencing dipping many times.
I searched for "acetone" in the title and couldn't find the video you are talking about. Could you provide a hint to help me search for it? Or maybe just a link?
Do you suggest as a precaution, coins that don't show pvc to dip them anyway before putting them in a 2x2? ...... I had posted another question to you over 1 month ago and didn't get a response yet, so I'll ask that one again.... I bought a 1968 mint set from a coin shop slabbed through a grader I have never heard of ( AACGS ). So as I am looking at the coins with a loupe, I can see little black or possible green dots on the field of the penny and definite small bits of dark green along the inside edge of the rim on the half dollar. Can I take them out and acetone wash PROOF COINS?
Thanks. I have a Canadian 1967 Proof set that means a lot to me. Due to a cheap pvc “curtain” the Canadian Mint put in the set, it has green crud on it.
Ok so yell at me all you want but how i "dip" my coins is to take a Q-tip and dip that in acetone then apply almost no pressure to the coin i am getting residue or surface dirt off of. I use this on proof coins all the time and it has never left any sort of marks, even on the mirror finishes of proof coins. I have used it on copper coins (DB large cents and canadian large cents) with no adverse effects. It works wonders in getting off the tiniest specks of dirt and debris off of coins especially proof coins.
Thanks for the info!!! God bless!
I also was hoping to see the before and after photos. Anyway, thanks for the good info.
Good sir.... out of all the youtube channels, videos and any other web info source, your videos are by far the most informative/educational. You have brought me up from a newb to a newb with some confidence. You have exponentially increased my $$$$ and I thank you for all of the videos.
Why no demo and comparison...?
I was waiting for you to do that right until you said "thanks for watching".
Just watched your video on acetone dipping and was amazed to learn the results. Can this method also be applied to clad coins? Thank you for all your time helping to keep us informed.
Great Advice, however it does not have to come from the Hardware Store. I have used 100% Acetone for years to clean silver coins. Acetone cannot interact with the silver itself. Many are the times I have put silver coins into pure acetone. Sometime I have left them overnight. Acetone cannot interact with the metal of the coin and removes anything organic without any damage to silver coins.
Pure or 100% clear acetone is inexpensive in Family Dollar, Walmart's beauty department in the area with with fingernail polish remover. Only get the one labeled as 100% acetone. Regular fingernail polish remover that's not labeled 100 % can also have additives like (pink) coloring and fragrance - and these might have adverse effects on the coin.
Absolutely fabulous info thnx
you can even pay for professional conservation when getting your coins graded,however I always thought when you sent a coin for conservation, it affected the value
And I have to wonder what the prof use. Probably acetone.
Acetone evaporates quickly. Do you have to use a bowl with a lid? Do you agitate it or just let it sit?
How is the acetone rinsed-off? I tried rinsing off the coin several times with distilled water but now it looks like there is residue that looks green when tilted in the light. After rinsing off the coin I left it out to dry. Is there anything that is safe to use to pat the coin dry after the acetone is rinsed-off?
it evaporates.
WHO KNEW!!!! Thanx!!
With knowledge comes power... I feel myself getting stronger!
Can you use acetone to remove green gunk from gold coins? Thx!
People are going to hate me for this. But a background in inorganic chemistry can also be beneficial in cleaning coins without damaging them... and it is even possible to restore patina... so there is literally no trace of cleaning.
I'm not going to elaborate. Just know that it is possible with the right knowledge and tools. There are weak acids that will remove corrosion without causing pitting by attacking the metal. Patina is also cause by chemical reactions on the surface of the coin with gasses in the atmosphere. Which if carefully done. Can be simulated to speed up the re-aging of the coin.
Be aware. That in the case of multi strike coins. This can cause you to lose some... or all... of the evidence of the multi strike. So caution and close monitoring is necessary.
Play at your own risk.
I have a question for you.
Is a BAR cent worth anything??? I have 2. One is in a plastic & one isn’t. Please let me know. I also have the 2 silver pennies somewhere in my in my coins. I believe they are 1940 something.
Thanks Rose
Getting ready to send in some coins to PCGS. Think I will send in one that was dipped just to see how it comes back. I still have some vouchers from my membership so cost won't be a factor.
Scott Hill how did it go for the dipped one?
So how did it go for your dipped coin?
Can you do the same dip to Proof silver that is extra shiny?
I wish there were before/after photos. I see in comments there is another video on acetone dipping so I’ll check that next. Have you ever used any of the coin cleaning products, such as Conserv? My grandpa used to use kerosene to remove grease and oil from coins he pulled out of the till at his service station-worked wonders on the coins that passed down to me. From the fact that there are literally NO key date coins in this cache, and they are all very well circulated, I’m guessing any nicer coins got put in his real collection which was stolen. I wonder if those got the same treatment, and if it has affected their value on the market, wherever they ended up.
I used it to get glue off old silver coins my grandpa glued to felt
interesting!...so I read comments obviously no nail polish remover acetone that was my first question second is if u cleaned with acetone and sent in for grading wouldn't It come back not graded and say it was cleaned??
Heidi S
I believe the reason why coin dipping isn't good for some coins is because they aren't made pure. Copper coins for example are always diluted and cheapened in value.
Ah! I have a nickel 66 in great condition and I think full step but it had a small milky spot and i was wondering what it was. So cleaning it will "restore" it?
Great video
Key word !!!! Hardware grade or auto grade acetone 100%
When you said hardware acetone what does that mean? Is there a certain percentage of acetone?Thanks
you should also be able to find a chemical supply company, which would probably have the best prices. i have bought it by the liter before in the $5-6 range.
B.R.S.Hound I did not know this Good Information. Thank you ( SOLDIER-Up ) Ralph
I used a water and lemon juice mixture for some of my pennies, I'd never do it to something potentially valuable though, mostly just to read illegible dates.
Mikee Vee Lemon Juice will destroy coins, even diluted
before pvc they were made out of celluloid, it left marks pvc was supposed to be better and not leave marks, lol.
A picture is worth 1000 words.
again very interesting!! lol. hey Thanx for responding..do u have an email that u give out ?? I would love ur opinion on some very different coins lol...I come across very unique coins and can't find info on some and some may be new errors...would love ur expertise 😁
I've heard of some using olive oil. Any thoughts?
Joe Waddell Olive oil is normally used for either copper coins out of the ground or generally old circulated copper. Acetone reacts really strongly with copper, so it would be a terrible decision to dip a copper in acetone. Olive oil is somewhat of an alternative, but it is a very slow process that takes months. There are solutions on the market for copper, but they can be pricey. Acetone is used mostly for silver coins to remove residue that would hurt the coin. In short, copper is hard to deal with, but silver can be dipped in acetone with little to no problem in most cases.
DansCoins appreciate the knowledge
+ DansCoins: I recently dipped two Indian Head pennies in Acetone. I didn't notice any adverse effects. Can you give more details of the damage that may occur?
So what do you suggest for copper? I have some full red wheats that I would like to keep but see some small of green. What do you think?
Was wondering if the HE Harris and co coin albums contain any pvc. Working on completing the mercury dime collection in AU+, and I'm currently using the folder made by them
New sub here and also new matal detectorist. I am trying to learn as much as this old mind will let me so if I find something I will know ow how to deal with it. Thanks for the info. Havagudun silverhound.
its not the pvc itself, its the plasticizers that soften it
Is there any other areas of collecting that is so adverse to removing the flotsam and jetsam attached thro time and usage to the point of obscuring the coveted object collected ????😏
@@kittybuchter2721 sportscards!! Funny thing about dipping... collectors soak vintage cards (pre 55) in water to turn the borders on some cards back white. They have big balls cleaning a $10k baseball card let me tell ya. Its undetectable if someone knows what they are doing. Coins I bet have a similar way that few can do with no evidence..
I use ezest coin cleaner. and her is what I use it for and what I have found. first off I found that a lot of times after using it as long as you just use wanter to rince it off and not soapy water like thay say to and then you pat dry that buy doing this with a coin that has ms quality 90 % of the time you cant tell it was cleaned it even fools grading companies like ngc its coins that are vg and so on not ms state that they start to think it was cleaned simply buy what is the coin look so nice for when its so worn that would tell them its ben cleaned. well what I have noticed was that it works find and it seems to increase the value of some coins. no I my self started doing this for the fact that when I sell coins I noticed that people wanted a clean shiny coin or coin with nice luster and would be willing to pay more money for a dipped coin over a coin of higher grade in dipped. so I did testing on that market and then testing on cleaning coins to wear I could get them clean and reduce the ablity to tell they wear cleaned as much as posable and after testing different products I found the cleaner I sed above did this when I use it in the manner I told you to. I also started talking to other dealers and talking to people buying coins and it just seems now days their are more people collecting coins that like how they look cleaned over having a coin that retains its value. but the biggest thing I learned also was cleaning a coin like this can give the coin a better grade and that even in the case of a cleaned coin wear its gradded as cleaned sometimes that damage from cleaning will not matter. also a big thing I noticed out threw the years of having coins regarded years later is sometimes a coin that was graded 10 15 years ago as cleaned no longer looks cleaned 10 15 years later and in fact can sometimes be sent in for regarding and they will regrade it and no no it was cleaned and graded as that years ago. witch tells me that if I lightly clean a coin now then whats not to say 20 or 30 years from now no one will ever tell after all cleaning coins the way I do 90% of the time now they cant tell. even tho you should never clean a coin and I was a firm belever in that I no part of collecting is what do people want what will they buy and what do I want. and my self I can take a coin that's ben cleaned and trade it to someone for a coin that is what I want in cleaned with a higher grade and value then I will clean the coin and trade them or sell to them to get what I want. I also no that buy cleaning the coin that years from now their will be less coins in cleaned making the ones in my collection worth more. keep in mind like anything things are worth what someone will pay for them.
I just bought a bunch of PVC coin envelopes from Amazon. Are these going to damage my coins long term or is the new PVC ok for coins?
Eventually they will, the plastic will seep your fine fir now but I recently invest it the hard plastic capsules
@@Happycat8385 I have since replaced the coins into non PVC holders
I like to soak mine in brake fluid overnight. The get extra shiny.
Saludos. Deargentina
I bought a 1968 mint set from a coin shop slabbed through a grader I have never heard of ( AACGS ). So as I am looking at the coins with a loupe, I can see little black or possible green dots on the field of the penny and definite small bits of dark green along the inside edge of the rim on the half dollar. Can I take them out and acetone wash PROOF COINS?
There was 999 likes and I gave it a like and it’s 1k coollll lol
Will acetone take gum or glue of the coin?
BlueRidge. I was hoping to get a reply to my question. I bought a 1968 mint set from a coin shop slabbed through a grader I have never heard of ( AACGS ). So as I am looking at the coins with a loupe, I can see little black or possible green dots on the field of the penny and definite small bits of dark green along the inside edge of the rim on the half dollar. Can I take them out and acetone wash PROOF COINS?
Now you tell me.
3 years on and still alive....
I 'm fairly new at 4 months at this hobby, awesome information on this. I discovered you a couple of months ago and really like your videos. I have a Indian head that is all green. (1872) I guessed it is ruined it was in a old coin flip at one time. What do you think of the solution called ( Conserv)? Ty
I dip my coins in lighter fluid and light them. It takes all the dirt out lol
I like your way of thinking lol
Does PVC ruin baseball cards after decades of storage, also?
Unless the PVC pages are labeled Archival I would never use them for expensive cards.
Use a whitening toothpaste and a soft toothbrush .
then you are violating grading service rules for cleaned coins. no real numismatists would agree with this advice.
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Urine dipping works best ~
Iearn something new every day
Could you use nailpolish remover
Nope! See his other comments on this video for the reasons why.
Why didn't you dip and show us the results?
Dip it for 15-20 MINUTES?????
What about milk spots?
Do you still think this is a good idea?
It's a cleaned coin and destroying the value.
If a grading company doesn't catch it doesn't mean it's not gonna get caught by a collector who's buying the coin and not the slab.
Grading companies are wrong all the time. It's an opinion on authenticity and condition and that's all it is.
If you want to clean your coins, go for it, their yours.
The moment you clean them trying to turn a higher profit and neglecting to tell the person buying them that you cleaned them you are being fraudulent, but as always buyer beware.
John Burgess you are watching a pro buddy but I know what you are TRYING TO say
according to PCGS's website, dipping does not fall under their definition of "cleaning" if there is no abrasion involved...
NO SAY on wearing latex gloves while using acetone . It can deaden the nerve feelings on the tips of your fingers .
I am not a Dipper, I am a Buffer, which like dipping is in section 92 Clean Coins in the pcgs guidelines. Buffing involves Polishing which if goes beyond "Grossly" polished. Also referred to in pcgs as abrasive or harsh. Dipping can be Very Grossly abrasive and harsh. But when we talk about Plastic Folder Slime I think we are talking about section 94 Adulterated coin surface, in other words something is painted on the surface of the coin. I think pcgs lets you use acid just because of plastic slime. If it were me I would dip my finders in the acid and then buff the coin with my finger tip. Buff just means the final removal of material when polishing, and polishing just means rubbing. I'd finish off with a wash with Dove Body Soap, pat dry and apply a thin bit of sweat from your forehead.
I'd probably cut the suggested time in half to be really safe.
Lol dipping is allowed!!!???!?! I wouldnt if it is a valuable coin/rare coin. Pcgs/ngc is going to reject any coin dipped in any chemical. PVC desteoyed alot of sports cards.
Dont do it stupid. That depreciates the coin