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  • čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
  • B-29 Kee Bird
    footage taken from Michael Hjorth of Avvanna logistics from a fuel depot trip in Northwestern Greenland in 2014

Komentáře • 763

  • @donaldparlett7708
    @donaldparlett7708 Před rokem +82

    I don’t think I’ll ever forgive Daryl for screwing this up so badly. Here was a perfectly preserved airplane and their impatience caused its total loss.

    • @torstenscholz6243
      @torstenscholz6243 Před 11 měsíci +9

      Yeah, such a tragic story - they would have had the perfect chance to fully restore it and make it fly again, but in the end, it was all ruined by impatience and stupidity.

    • @Iz0pen
      @Iz0pen Před 10 měsíci +1

      Didn’t somebody die in the fire? So there’s that too

    • @torstenscholz6243
      @torstenscholz6243 Před 10 měsíci

      No, no one died in the plane, luckily the two guys on board managed to get out in time and remained uninjured. Bot one of the crew members died from health issues months before that.@@Iz0pen

    • @frostedbutts4340
      @frostedbutts4340 Před 10 měsíci

      No I'm not sure how that rumor started. An engineer died of natural causes before the accident. @@Iz0pen

    • @ginoperretta373
      @ginoperretta373 Před 10 měsíci +6

      @@Iz0pen no, they worked that poor man to death, in my opinion, but the official reason is some kind of medical problem

  • @jamminfool2002
    @jamminfool2002 Před 3 lety +91

    I remember watching the episode of nova as a kid when they came soooooo close to rescuing it and feeling so heartbroken when it caught fire and burned to the ground especially because I was hoping they would have dedicated it to Rick Kriege, the chief engineer who put in so much work before dying of a blood clot.

    • @JimmyLoose
      @JimmyLoose Před rokem +14

      Same here. I was about 15 when I saw that episode. I'm still pissed about the outcome to this day.

  • @UCH-zp4up
    @UCH-zp4up Před 6 lety +325

    I wish the Kee Bird could have been properly rescued without burning up. Who else wants to use whatever's left for a rebuild?

    • @Turbodog1
      @Turbodog1 Před 5 lety +28

      I'd leave it there, it's been there so long it's pretty much part of the ice now, but I do like your idea.

    • @starg8man
      @starg8man Před 5 lety +35

      I'm down let's go get it.

    • @ivanvrkljan1056
      @ivanvrkljan1056 Před 5 lety +10

      I mean what would be the main source of money to get the thing out of there?

    • @starg8man
      @starg8man Před 5 lety +30

      @@ivanvrkljan1056 perhaps we could get a museum to fund an excavation, and the. Rebuild it to aesthetic quality but not flight ready. Bam

    • @ivanvrkljan1056
      @ivanvrkljan1056 Před 5 lety +10

      draco man ya but most museum’s can’t fund a project like that, I was thinking if we could get Denmark (Denmark own’s Greenland) to fund the project as a scientific study to see how the ice has been affected by the metal we can get then to move the remains to the UK for shipping to the US for a full restoration by a team of professional’s
      What do think.

  • @jtuttle11
    @jtuttle11 Před 5 lety +411

    One man makes a BAD decision in his impatience and the world loses a great airplane.

    • @michaeljacobs7724
      @michaeljacobs7724 Před 4 lety +46

      Yes you are so right. Why would you gather up all the big Investors, get the best men for the job, one even dies from his work, and then decide to taxi around on ice with an unsecured battery? What a huge loss all the way around.

    • @SvenTviking
      @SvenTviking Před 4 lety +25

      Mike Jacobs It burned because they tried started the engines using the auxiliary power motor, mounted in the rear fuselage, which were renowned for leaking fuel and catching fire, even when they were new and hadn’t been buried under ice for 50 years, which is exactly what happened. And they had no fire extinguishers.

    • @jjojo2004
      @jjojo2004 Před 4 lety +23

      The official story is the APU broke loose and spilled gas in the fuselage and the plane caught fire. But how do we know it was an accident? It could have been a plan to claim insurance money because the investors were just in it way too deep......things to make you go HMMMMMM 🤔

    • @sirboomsalot4902
      @sirboomsalot4902 Před 4 lety +12

      Jordan Cunanan I don’t think so. What insurance money do you speak of? From what I heard, they lied about having life insurance for the guy who died. Also, they got sued to the moon because of this

    • @chrismofer
      @chrismofer Před 4 lety +4

      @Johnny Sportcoat JATO just shorten the takeoff. obviously a B-29 can takeoff without them lmao

  • @Ford_Raptor_R_720hp_V8
    @Ford_Raptor_R_720hp_V8 Před 7 lety +119

    *They should've Pieced the Aircraft and Hauled it out of there, like they Pieced DOC*

    • @joevignolor4u949
      @joevignolor4u949 Před 7 lety +12

      I've always thought the same thing. They should have disassembled it where it was and rented one of those sky crane helicopters to sky lift the parts out of there.

    • @StephenLyonsMusic
      @StephenLyonsMusic Před 7 lety +3

      Yeah but Doc was in much better shape. After the Kee Bird fire it destroyed so much of the air frame.

    • @joevignolor4u949
      @joevignolor4u949 Před 7 lety +16

      @ Stephen Lyons - I think what we meant was to disassemble it where it had been sitting and bring it out in pieces instead of trying to fix it up and fly it out. This would have eliminated the fire and all the other problems associated with trying to fix it at the remote site where it had been sitting. Also remember that one of the mechanics trying to repair it at the remote site got sick and died as a result.

    • @jcjcjunk1881
      @jcjcjunk1881 Před 5 lety +5

      @@StephenLyonsMusic before the fire idiot

    • @zoso1980
      @zoso1980 Před 5 lety +1

      Yes, yes and yes. Unforgivable the recklessness and loss of life that came from this "salvage."

  • @John-1984
    @John-1984 Před 5 lety +58

    I remember watching that episode when I was a kid and was so disappointed when it caught fire. To get something running again after it sat abandoned for so long amazed me. But then to watch all your hard work go up in smoke.
    It was and still is my favorite NOVA episode.

    • @joshuaherpolsheimer4699
      @joshuaherpolsheimer4699 Před 3 lety

      Theres the episode....czcams.com/video/2g3ZU0ZEVRk/video.html

    • @mattcarey6930
      @mattcarey6930 Před 2 lety +4

      I had the same reaction. I watched it when I was 9 maybe. I was so interested in this plane and was absolutely crashed when it burnt up.

  • @RonWylie-gk5lc
    @RonWylie-gk5lc Před 6 lety +15

    The best docu I have seen on any airplane. This was a great find, It is hard to imagine what those men must have felt after working so hard and getting her ready to spread her wings. Powerful and heartbreaking

  • @skny2282
    @skny2282 Před 5 lety +16

    A fully restored vintage plane would need a throughout maintenance and test before the test flight. Daryl’s team did such a unprofessional decision rushing to fly it back and caused fire - before taking off.

    • @FiveCentsPlease
      @FiveCentsPlease Před 5 lety +2

      +S K They were doing a patch-up ferry flight similar to what used to be done in the 1950s and 1960s with surplus piston aircraft. You get a ferry permit and then make proper repairs at another location.

    • @torstenscholz6243
      @torstenscholz6243 Před 3 lety +3

      TBH, this mission was likely doomed from the start. As much as I appreciate their efforts, this project was optimistic to say the least. They tried too much within too little time and with too limited resources, leaving little room for error and resulting in some poor decisions that led to this outcome. The finishing of the plane and the takeoff were rushed, they should have tanken more time to properly check the plane through, then the apu should have been recognized.

    • @davidpage3893
      @davidpage3893 Před 2 lety +2

      I remember seeing this on Nova back in the 1990s. It’s a damn shame this almost intact plane was lost to a fire from the APU. I believe that the
      hoses and fittings on the APU most likely were dry rotted from the years of being exposed to the cold temperatures. This team that attempted to fly this plane out should’ve checked all the fuel lines, and other rubber fittings for defects. If they had done this the plane should’ve been disassembled, flown out piece by piece and rebuilt with new fittings like the B 29 named Doc. I respect the men and crew for their dedication to their efforts for trying their best to preserve this abandoned plane. If this would’ve been successful Kee Bird would be flying with FiFi and Doc. I don’t know if there are any B 29’s left at China Lake or any other bone yard that could be picked over for spare parts for FiFi and Doc.
      David Page
      East Millinocket, Maine.

  • @clevlandblock
    @clevlandblock Před rokem +23

    I watched Nova's "Frozen in Time" when it was first run. I was never so disgusted with a show's ending in my life.

  • @bmused55
    @bmused55 Před 7 lety +91

    Such a sad story. She was on the cusp of freedom from her icy tomb. All the effort to bring her back to life. Dedication that eventually cost a man his life and all for naught. For the want of a couple of stronger bolts :(

    • @olafurmikaelsson4794
      @olafurmikaelsson4794 Před 4 lety

      I don’t remember anyone loosing his life

    • @lightning4497
      @lightning4497 Před 4 lety

      No one died, only the plane

    • @lewisparker4488
      @lewisparker4488 Před 4 lety +1

      Think they used a coat hanger to hang the gas can from the ceiling for the APU. Should have activated the actual fuel system to the APU since they were going to use it all the way home.

    • @pressrolls
      @pressrolls Před 4 lety +13

      YES somebody died....brilliant man too. Watch the show.

    • @Check_Vibe0
      @Check_Vibe0 Před 4 lety +4

      He got badly sick amd doed from a blood clot

  • @andrewgraulich6602
    @andrewgraulich6602 Před 27 dny

    My grandfather was the pilot who rescued the Kee Bird’s crew from the Greenland ice; he would reminisce about how his hands were practically frozen to the controls of his C-54. For the rescue he received the Distinguished Flying Cross, amongst other honors. He went on to become the youngest full-bird colonel to that point in USAF history, flew the B-36 for SAC, and served as the USAF liaison for the Titan missile project.

  • @coolhand1964
    @coolhand1964 Před 10 měsíci +2

    What you notice when visiting such places is the silence. Your mind has difficulty taking in how some relic or piece of history has just sat motionless surrounded by nothing but silence, for years and years.

  • @lr882027
    @lr882027 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Watched that documentary years ago, don't think I can ever watch it again, heartbreaking.

  • @craftpaint1644
    @craftpaint1644 Před 6 lety +61

    Should paint "Darrell's Fault" on it.

  • @donaldparlettjr3295
    @donaldparlettjr3295 Před 7 lety +98

    Daryl Grenemayer's ego destroyed this acft. It killed one of the restoration crewman as well. Not from the fire. A waste of 4 rare props and engines that were hauled in to try to fly it out. STUPID!!

    • @pascalcoole2725
      @pascalcoole2725 Před 5 lety +9

      To bad... i have to agree. i wish you where wrong ;(

    • @joef2171
      @joef2171 Před 5 lety +25

      Every single thing about the attempted removal of the Kee Bird was badly planned. They should have dismantled it and hauled it out in peace. Shipped it back and rebuilt it.

    • @hodaka1000
      @hodaka1000 Před 5 lety +14

      I can't understand why they didn't bring the engines back.

    • @markfrench8892
      @markfrench8892 Před 4 lety +1

      You can use A/C instead of acft for Aircraft. I think we all know that one.

    • @ikhanjali409
      @ikhanjali409 Před 4 lety +6

      They tried to roadkill a b29...

  • @johnnypopper-pc3ss
    @johnnypopper-pc3ss Před 7 lety +155

    What a waste ! I saw the documentary and it about made me cry . What a priceless piece of history destroyed because some idiot didn't have a fire extinguisher !

    • @finkamain1621
      @finkamain1621 Před 7 lety +21

      It reminds me of some idiot who has a big cabinet that can't fit through his door. Instead of disassembling it, he decides to force it through, smashing the doors, chipping paint, an damaging the drywall. Pretty much the analogy for the Kee Bird

    • @robertfrownyjr4035
      @robertfrownyjr4035 Před 7 lety +14

      They had a fire extinguisher on board. It was in the back where the fire was, so they couldn't get to it.

    • @Marshcar
      @Marshcar Před 7 lety +4

      It was all because some idiot left a generator back there

    • @Aviatr23
      @Aviatr23 Před 6 lety +14

      No one on that crew was an idiot.

    • @----.__
      @----.__ Před 6 lety +4

      Dimitri Vladivikovic
      There is very little left to "build back up", it may as well be scratch built. The cockpit is completely gutted, as is most of the fuselage back to the empennage. After the original crash landing the wings were not airworthy, and having sat in water for so long this has been exacerbated. Logically the only thing reusable on this aircraft is the engines after a complete rebuild. Nothing is impossible, but I don't think you understand the work that is required to get this B29 airworthy again. Just build a new one if you can get hold of the engineering plans.

  • @ricky4001cs
    @ricky4001cs Před 6 lety +43

    The men who tried, and the one who died, trying to salvage this bird will go down in history as unlikely heroes. Heroes for trying so damned hard, and being rewarded with grief and failure. Bless them all. Bless them for trying!

    • @FiveCentsPlease
      @FiveCentsPlease Před 6 lety +19

      +ricky4001cs They will be remembered for doing everything you not supposed to do. They went in cheap to make quick buck and went out with "go fever."

    • @jamesbehrje4279
      @jamesbehrje4279 Před 4 lety +10

      hero's??? what are you smoking???

    • @sirboomsalot4902
      @sirboomsalot4902 Před 4 lety +8

      You need to read more about this story. While I’ve heard the mechanic that died was ok, the guys in charge were just doing it to make a quick buck

    • @philipme109
      @philipme109 Před 3 lety +3

      Don't bless the leader Greenmeyer!
      He could have safely disassembled the aircraft and had brought by salvage boats.
      Instead he tried to grandstand and fly it out!
      Rebuilding a aircraft to make it flightworthy was stupid on Greenmeyers part!

    • @torstenscholz6243
      @torstenscholz6243 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@philipme109 Yeah, if only a more competent person would have been involved, this probably wouldn't have happened. Greenmayer is a dubious figure and was heavily criticized for the way he handled the whole thing. He just saw the opportunity to make big money with little effort. Very irritating and telling is the scene where they sit and watch the plane burn down and don't seem to be too sad, even joking and laughing about it.

  • @dragonmeddler2152
    @dragonmeddler2152 Před 11 měsíci +2

    People who find, acquire, restore and then fly the world's rarest historic aircraft have in their hearts all the traits mentioned in these comments including impatience, bravado bull-headedness, luck and lust for adventure with a good amount of danger thrown in. Was one or more of these traits responsible for the firey end of the Keebird? Perhaps, but the truth is without these free spirits taking chances, it's likely very few of these great aircraft would be available for the rest of us to enjoy. Thank you, gents, for your efforts and please keep up the good work.

  • @matthewcox6615
    @matthewcox6615 Před 7 lety +24

    I've seen this footage a while back and I have to say it's unbelievable, I think the Kee Bird should remain where it has been since 1947 because I feel like it belongs up there and has already been through a lot.

    • @bennoakes2477
      @bennoakes2477 Před 3 lety +2

      should have been left in one piece and forgotten, rather than destroyed first.

    • @smalllocoguy770
      @smalllocoguy770 Před 3 lety +7

      @@bennoakes2477 or dismissed and moved out in sections rather than fly something that hadn't moved in 40 years

  • @stormwulf117
    @stormwulf117 Před 3 lety +38

    “You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.” -- Homer Simpson

  • @rcbif101
    @rcbif101 Před 7 lety +77

    Weren't those engines on loan to the salvagers? What a waste...

    • @Spacecat1969
      @Spacecat1969  Před 7 lety +30

      Rcbif yep, they're still there would likely need overhaul but could definitely make a case going back for those engines.

    • @General_Eisenhower1945
      @General_Eisenhower1945 Před 7 lety +19

      Anon ymous take as much from the kee bird as possible and combine it with the lady of the lake fuselage in Alaska. good idea I thought

    • @Marshcar
      @Marshcar Před 7 lety +8

      yeah why did they leave the new engines and props

    • @FiveCentsPlease
      @FiveCentsPlease Před 6 lety +4

      +paul chandler The water levels in Lake Mead have been at record lows and there is a B-29 just sitting there to raise up and place on a barge. But the National Park Service would probably not allow salvage if anyone wanted it.

    • @General_Eisenhower1945
      @General_Eisenhower1945 Před 6 lety +2

      FiveCentsPlease, it's in rough shape anyway, I think that one should remain

  • @luciusvorenus9445
    @luciusvorenus9445 Před 5 lety +37

    That's a damn shame! How awesome it would to see her flying with Doc & FiFi?

    • @brandonpeterman9964
      @brandonpeterman9964 Před 2 lety +1

      atleast the liberty bell will eventually join them

    • @BrainDamage0001
      @BrainDamage0001 Před 2 lety

      The aircraft is largely intact and well preserved. Tail section, and nose damage. Engines #2, #3, and #4 broke away upon impact
      Park service will not permit recovery sadly

  • @TheDeJureTour
    @TheDeJureTour Před 7 lety +16

    The lack of attention to detail in getting the Kee Bird out, the fact that APU was not a secure setup, speaks volumes of Greenmayer's shoestring budget and "quick let's get out of here and make a buck" mentality. In the end, maybe the Kee Bird just wanted to stay where she was. After all, one of her crew members did say that it was like disturbing an Indian burial ground.
    Also, I think that the warbird scene was very different 25 years ago. There just wasn't the money or support that exists now. Of course things were cheaper too.

    • @torstenscholz6243
      @torstenscholz6243 Před 11 měsíci

      Yeah, if only a more competent person would have been involved, this probably wouldn't have happened. Greenmayer is a dubious figure and was heavily criticized for the way he handled the whole thing. He just saw the opportunity to make big money with little effort. Very irritating and telling is the scene where they sit and watch the plane burn down and don't seem to be too sad even joking and laughing about it.

  • @lineshaftrestorations7903
    @lineshaftrestorations7903 Před 3 lety +10

    As someone who appreciates history, watching the original documentary was incredibly sad when, on the cusp of returning, Kee Bird met its fate. If only the APU had been secured.

    • @markbass7145
      @markbass7145 Před 3 lety +3

      If only somebody brought a fire extinguisher.

    • @torstenscholz6243
      @torstenscholz6243 Před 3 lety

      Even if so, it would still have been extremely dangerous to fly this thing and there could still have been a million other things going wrong. I doubt that the fuselage was strong enough to be airborne after being frozen in ice for 50 years. Imagine if the plane would have broke during flight and crashed to the ground - not unlikely imo.

    • @vincemajestyk9497
      @vincemajestyk9497 Před 11 měsíci +4

      The APU WAS secured. It was the gas tank that fell that dumped fuel on the running engine because they had it 'rigged' by hanging it from a stringer above the running APU to gravity feed it because the fuel pump failed. It was a V32 twin Andover (Fairchild) generator. Not clear on the wisdom of taking off or taxiing in that configuration. The pilot was only 'supposed' to bring it to the edge of the lake. No fire suppression or extinguishers would have put out that fire with that much gas. It was a real shame. Haste and impatience will always bite you in the ass in aviation.

    • @chrisreynolds6520
      @chrisreynolds6520 Před 11 měsíci +1

      ​@@torstenscholz6243Very unlikely to have caused a major problem, considering the battle damage many made it back home with

  • @carlingas666
    @carlingas666 Před rokem +3

    What a tragedy. She almost made it out. It’s like the place where she crashed didn’t want to let her leave

  • @jeffscott7266
    @jeffscott7266 Před 11 měsíci +3

    I can’t remember the man’s name who originally was organizing the Kee Bee’s Retrieval Crew his name was mentioned once if memory serves correct. He lacked the capital needed to fund the B29’s retrieval plan and get it to Thule The narrator said this guy butted heads with Daryl and they hated each other. The guy reluctantly agreed to Daryl funding the project but ended up leaving the project out of frustration. We as the audience were not privy. As a former flighline jet engine mechanic who worked C130’s and CH-53 Sikorsky Helicopters in the US Air Force, I’m guessing Daryl is not one of those pilots you really like because of mutual respect in making the airplane air worthy and being able to really fly it well. I’m gonna step out on a limb here and speculate that Daryl is one of those pilot’s who’s probably a real arrogant a** who acts above people and takes dangerous risks that get’s people hurt,or maybe he thinks he’s a know it all, or takes stupid risks that endanger’s lives, or maybe all of the above. There is some backstory here for sure. Maybe that’s why this personnel conflict wasn’t discussed in detail because it would give away the documentary’s shocking and tragic ending. One thing you don’t ever do is fly a plane with souls on board that has not been thoroughly inspected by experienced military trained or licensed Airframe & Powerplant mechanics who know B29’s inside and out. Also having a thoroughly documented Aircraft discrepancy & maintenance book that lists every grounding item, what was done to complete and test the repairs. Every single; nut, bolt, cable, gear, support, part, support equipment, engine, prop, servos, controllers, gage, safety, electrical generator, it’s fuel tank & support, prop, de-ice equipment, cabin heaters and thousands of other items are installed, torqued, secured, check listed to be 100% functional and verified to be safe before any taxi is considered to be taken. This especially without a Flightline fire department on standby. I’m guessing this is why Daryl was so disliked that the guy who should have been in charge of saying the B29 was safe to taxi was checked out and gone. There would have been a review of discrepancies, pre-taxis checklist before that plane moved an inch. It’s really sad this project was allowed to proceed. Accidents that set irreplaceable historical aircraft on fire just don’t happen. Rushing, skipping aircraft safety protocol and unprofessionalism cause accidents. Also the decision to use the “mothballed” Air Base boneyard Vietnam era cargo plane was a real POS. It should have been respectfully and professionally overhauled out of respect for the Vietnam Veteran’s. I worked with some of them who were my supervisors when I joined the Air Force. The best guys I ever had the opportunity to work with in my life. I’m surprised it didn’t kill everyone who flew on it. Daryl doesn’t know jack squat about doing a project like this and the guys who did, dis-served better, especially the poor man who died and we all lost a really awesome WWII Aircraft that should be sitting in a hangar with Fifi!!!

  • @carlschroeder6811
    @carlschroeder6811 Před 3 lety +1

    Truth be told, what really happened is, the APU had a bad fuel line/tank, instead of waiting for a proper replacement, the new team leader hung a gas can over the APU and jerry rigged the fuel connection. Being that it was a tricycle landing gear configuration, as the plane was taxied over the very rough, hastily prepared snow/ice runway, the tail section where the APU was mounted, was bouncing violently up and down, spilling fuel all over the hot APU and fuselage floor bulkhead, thus starting an uncontrollable fire. Being a WW2 aviation buff since childhood, I was in my 30's and so excited watching this documentary for the first time in the mid 90's (especially while taxiing) and was literally traumatized when it caught fire and burned to the ground, what a let down! To this day I have not been able to stomach watching the documentary for a second time, it's just too sad.

    • @FiveCentsPlease
      @FiveCentsPlease Před 3 lety

      +Carl Schroeder Also something about the team member manning the APU stepped over to put on his goggles from the dust inside and that's when the fire started. They should have waited to fix that fuel pump or brought a spare.

  • @bonzoschlacendaker1057
    @bonzoschlacendaker1057 Před 3 lety +6

    My heart simply sank to see what should have been a victorious flight go so tragically wrong. The only good spot is that it happened on the ground and not at 4,000 agl. A salute to all who gave so much in their attempt to add a rare page into the book of history.

  • @roblogie1667
    @roblogie1667 Před 7 lety +32

    All because of cutting corners with a dodgy fuel tank on the APU :( :(

    • @pat36a
      @pat36a Před 3 lety +4

      And an impatient pilot. He went beyond the plan and it cost him.

    • @torstenscholz6243
      @torstenscholz6243 Před 3 lety

      TBH, this mission was likely doomed from the start. As much as I appreciate their efforts, this project was optimistic to say the least. They tried too much within too little time and with too limited resources, leaving little room for error and resulting in some poor decisions that led to this outcome. The finishing of the plane and the takeoff were rushed, they should have tanken more time to properly check the plane through, then the apu should have been recognized.

  • @tanker1425
    @tanker1425 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I used to watch this with my grandpa :)

  • @naikewest3765
    @naikewest3765 Před 6 lety +6

    Don't despair, perhaps 100 years from now man will try again to remove Kee Bird from her resting place. She'll be there, waiting. I can't fathom how anyone could justify criticizing the end result of this bold attempt. Risk is part of life, be proud of them. Even the best of us fail, but let that fact never stop us from trying.

    • @FiveCentsPlease
      @FiveCentsPlease Před 6 lety +3

      +Naike West The end result was because of carelessness and impatience.

    • @craftpaint1644
      @craftpaint1644 Před 6 lety +3

      A lot of people criticise this and rightly so. With qualifications like that team - they knew better, but loved their spirit of adventure - the 'game" - as it was called more than sectioning it down and shipping it to a proper shop. Not some risky game but assured disciplined success.

    • @torstenscholz6243
      @torstenscholz6243 Před 5 lety +1

      Maybe someone will one day remove what's left of Kee Bird, but that doesn't change the fact that nowadays it's just a piece of rotten junk. It was in good condition and would have been able to be made airborne again, but then these morons came and ruined it with their incompetence, arrogance and pretension.

    • @Halfstep2024
      @Halfstep2024 Před 3 lety +1

      I live how easily everyone overlooks the fact that they went up there to try and get it to profit from it by selling it... not to save a piece of history or any of that shit. It was all driven by greed and it ended a lot better than it would have if they ever would have actually tried to take off through all those snow banks which would have made it break up juuuust about the time they got enough speed up to insure nobody could survive.

  • @robertmurphy4836
    @robertmurphy4836 Před 3 lety +3

    Way back when I first saw the NOVA documentary I thought they should have airlifted in the parts. And built a sled for it and towed the aircraft out of there. Trying to do that much repair work at that location and fly it out was just plain stupid.

  • @hamster-wh3ws
    @hamster-wh3ws Před 3 lety +3

    Wiki states the aircraft was wrecked in recovery attempt in 1995. So it has been there for about 19 years after the tv program at this time.

  • @wynder15
    @wynder15 Před 6 lety +31

    Worst case of "Go Fever" in world history.

    • @mikespillman3075
      @mikespillman3075 Před 6 lety +3

      if im reading you correctly, I agree....they were anxious and prolly cut corners and overlooked the obvious.....

    • @BobSmith-dk8nw
      @BobSmith-dk8nw Před 5 lety

      If you watch the whole thing - they were bouncing it around way to much when they were taxiing.
      czcams.com/video/CE9j-W_8USw/video.html
      .

    • @zoso1980
      @zoso1980 Před 5 lety +7

      @@mikespillman3075 The account I read is that the APU gas pump wasn't working so a coat hanger was twisted and holding a gas can so gravity fed the APU motor. Standing still no problem. On bumpy runway - what could go wrong? Yes 'go fever,' indeed. Greenmeyer is on film saying he wanted to hop in and go. If he said that on film, you know with all four engines up to temperature and running he was saying 'go, go, go, go, go' to the crew. Compare that to the DOC and Fifi crews who are methodical in following their checklists before they get moving. Terrible waste of a treasure.

    • @martinda7446
      @martinda7446 Před 5 lety +3

      That accolade belongs to Captain Jacob Van Zanten.

    • @martinda7446
      @martinda7446 Před 5 lety

      This was No2.

  • @skytar63
    @skytar63 Před 5 lety +3

    I'm an Aircraft Mechanic. This reminds me of something. Hurry, Hurry, Hurry, get the airplane done, visual progress, make the company money ??

    • @FiveCentsPlease
      @FiveCentsPlease Před 5 lety +1

      +skytar63 Getting it out cheap for a profit was the goal, yes.

    • @teenagerinsac
      @teenagerinsac Před 3 lety

      AAR, TIMCO, PEMCO, Commercial Jet...... Same idiocy rules there too.

  • @richardcline1337
    @richardcline1337 Před 5 lety +5

    Compete lack of proper planning and being to too big of a hurry and now a piece of history lies wrecked, burned and ruined. Isn't that a definition of "ego"?

    • @torstenscholz6243
      @torstenscholz6243 Před 3 lety

      Yeah, really sad how some poor decisions destroyed a plane that laid there in good condition for almost 50 years. Imo this mission was likely to fail from day one. As much as I appreciate their efforts, this project was optimistic to say the least. They tried too much within too little time and with too limited resources, leaving little room for error and resulting in some poor decisions that led to this tragedy. The finishing of the plane and the takeoff were rushed, they should have taken more time to properly check the plane through, then the apu should have been recognized.

  • @arnemagnus680
    @arnemagnus680 Před 7 lety +25

    damn the Kee Bird got me i think about her every day

    • @Spacecat1969
      @Spacecat1969  Před 7 lety +4

      I would check out hunting Warbirds, Its a great book that really goes far more in depth then the documentary did.
      as for the kee bird check out czcams.com/video/lTrCtI7Dyw4/video.html
      the original Kee bird was the mascot of the people who built the Alaska Canada Highway good little bit here
      www.explorenorth.com/library
      This link has some really good stuff VVVV
      hougengroup.com/yukon-history/yukon-nuggets/the-story-of-the-keebird/
      I'd personally love to go get her, but the main setback would be money it would cost roughly half a million just to get her out of that lake and back to the states.
      Boeing probably could do it, but they would need someone to actually commit to restoring it

    • @arnemagnus680
      @arnemagnus680 Před 7 lety +1

      thanks

    • @matthewcox6615
      @matthewcox6615 Před 7 lety +2

      Feuer Wolf Me too!

    • @bennoakes2477
      @bennoakes2477 Před 3 lety

      do you though?

  • @gusm2752
    @gusm2752 Před rokem +3

    Saw the documentary when it first aired, incredible effort. What a tragic ending. Heartbreaking. Must have crushed the people involved in the restoration. 🇺🇸

  • @russflyin
    @russflyin Před 4 měsíci

    Thanks Daryl! you will forever been known for this!

  • @awkwarddoggo05
    @awkwarddoggo05 Před 3 lety +4

    Imagine if they restored her properly. She could’ve been flying along side Fifi and Doc.

  • @jstephenallington8431
    @jstephenallington8431 Před 3 lety +2

    I also watched the documentary about the attempt to fly it off of the ice. The man who was directing the salvage attempt had to leave just before the aircraft was ready to fly, and subsequently died. The B-29 had an Auxiliary Power Unit (or A.P.U.) mounted in the rear portion of the pressure hull that was fed Av gas from fuel tank in the rear of the fuselage. The A.P.U. in a B-29 had a nasty reputation with it's crews to begin with, it was cranky, smelly and leaked horribly. The most likely cause of the fire was the unattended, cranky and leaky A.P.U. In all practicality there was no aircraft left to salvage.

    • @FiveCentsPlease
      @FiveCentsPlease Před 3 lety

      +JStephen Allington The fuel pump on the APU was broken and they had rigged up a gravity-feed can of gas for it, and this spilled avgas on the hot APU.

  • @ibizenco
    @ibizenco Před 6 lety +4

    I too have seen the documentary about "Kee Bird". After having seen "FiFi" and "Doc" here at YT, seeing the remains of "Kee Bird" is so sad. Damn...

  • @philipme109
    @philipme109 Před 6 lety +10

    This aircraft should be recovered as a source of spair parts to keep other B-29s flying.

    • @SweatCookienese
      @SweatCookienese Před 3 lety

      Fuck no it's an important piece of history and should be preserved as one

    • @philipme109
      @philipme109 Před 3 lety +4

      @@SweatCookienese It can't be preserved where it is!
      Its on a frozen lake and it could eventually be lost underwater!!

    • @Entity282
      @Entity282 Před 3 lety +2

      @@philipme109 Uh, a B-29 in a lake shouldnt be so hard to find. I mean, they also found the Lake Mead B-29 and she‘s still in a lake. And I wouldnt take her apart for spareparts too. She should be recovered from the ice and preserved at an museum.

    • @philipme109
      @philipme109 Před 3 lety +3

      @@Entity282 Key Bird caught FIRE from Greenmeyers stupidity.
      All that is left is the aft fuselage, burned out cockpit and the wings.
      It was almost a total loss.
      That Lake Mead aircraft is far more intact as long as they don't allow fools like Greenmeyer near it.

    • @Entity282
      @Entity282 Před 3 lety +1

      @@philipme109 I know. Kee Bird is still a piece of history and also a symbol to double check everything so we dont lose history again. I also know that the Lake Mead B-29 is in super condition but as there are shells living on it, it probably wont see sunlight again. Both B-29 probably wont get restored but they should be preserved! No matter what happened or what condition. Both are pieces of history and not be salvaged for spareparts.

  • @DK-mc1yr
    @DK-mc1yr Před 4 lety

    I met Robert "Lucky" Luedke, Flight Engineer, and invited him to speak at our annual Commemorative Air Force dinner back in 2005 or so. Sad tale of this aircrafts destruction.

  • @RifullOfTheWest
    @RifullOfTheWest Před 5 lety +6

    When I was trying to search for rich sponsors willing to help fund the excavation of 30+ German fighters in a German Bavarian bunker, I called Cathy Hanson who was a large funder for the Kee Bird project. Cathy contributed a large portion of the finances for the retrieval of Kee Bird, but as we all know the story it failed. Cathy owns a large museum in northern CA, and has many aircraft of her own. I was directed to speak with her to see if she would be interested in owning several Fw-190s buried in fresh water we are retrieving this summer 2019. Thankfully the dig is 100% funded now, but I have yet to find someone willing to fund the shipping and restoration of the aircraft. There are around 30+ Me-262, Fw-190A&D and Me-163. Apparently the bunker, like most german bunkers at the end of the war with new technology like Jets were booby trapped with large bombs, just like this bunker. But thank God they decided to do that, because the US Army left them in there.

    • @plinthley
      @plinthley Před 2 lety

      Yeah, right. Nazi gold train, too. But at least you're a name dropper.

  • @xray86delta
    @xray86delta Před 2 lety +1

    When I heard what happened, what caused the fire, I couldn't believe it. I watched that special years ago, and didn't realize it was their own negligence, not the condition of the aircraft or its age, that caused the destruction.

  • @nexus-6598
    @nexus-6598 Před 2 měsíci

    I remember watching the original NOVA documentary around the time when it first aired and being astonished by the technical experience and courage of the team. Regarding Darryl Greenamyer I'm shocked by all the negative comments. This guy financed the mission and risked everything to rescue this abandoned B-29. Had he made it he'd would have been hailed a hero and had he not tried there wouldn't have been a documentary and likely many who are so critical of him wouldn't even know about this plane. Comments like "paint Darrel's Fault" on it likely come from people who really haven't thought this through.

    • @FiveCentsPlease
      @FiveCentsPlease Před měsícem +1

      +@ The salvage was financed by a real estate mogul who wanted to "get in on the action" of warbird sales. They went in cheap to double the money. I think Darryl skipped some of the required medical insurance for his permits, which was why Rick's family sued after his death. The whole effort ended in the fire and lawsuits between all involved parties.

    • @nexus-6598
      @nexus-6598 Před měsícem

      @@FiveCentsPlease Thank you for this information.

  • @jinmo2821
    @jinmo2821 Před 2 lety +4

    Darryl Greenmayer was greedy, selfish, manipulative and, most importantly, cheap. It was Kee Bird's misfortune that it got the attention of such an awful character. He was in a hurry to get to the plane and make the quick buck before some aviation historical association or museum beat him to it. In the end he ended up destroying the plane and overworking and killing a highly skilled person.

    • @torstenscholz6243
      @torstenscholz6243 Před 11 měsíci

      Yeah, if only a more competent person would have been involved, this probably wouldn't have happened and might have ended well. Greenmayer is a dubious figure and was heavily criticized for the way he handled the whole thing. He just saw the opportunity to make big money with little effort. Very irritating and telling is the scene where they sit and watch the plane burn down and don't seem to be too sad, even joking and laughing about it.

  • @tylerbonser7686
    @tylerbonser7686 Před 3 lety +20

    The results of impatience and a big ego.

    • @teenagerinsac
      @teenagerinsac Před 3 lety +3

      College educated idiot with an ego problem-- AND no common sense---- NO FIRE EXTINGUISHER!!

    • @davesaldana7263
      @davesaldana7263 Před 3 lety +1

      @@teenagerinsacyour statement was pure stupidity

    • @teenagerinsac
      @teenagerinsac Před 3 lety +3

      @@davesaldana7263 and YOU are WHO? I have 58 yrs Aviation following and experience both military and civilian and associated activities including service with SAC 509 BW :)

    • @torstenscholz6243
      @torstenscholz6243 Před 3 lety

      @@teenagerinsac They had one, unfortunately it was in the back where the fire broke out, so they couldn't get to it.

  • @buckduane1991
    @buckduane1991 Před 3 lety +1

    My grandpa cried when NOVA aired the episode on this plane... his brother was a B-17 navigator and when he himself followed and got into the USAAC in early 1945, he was in flight training to fly B-29s to Japan. In fact, they were getting ready fir a training flight when word came to shutdown... because Japan had surrendered. Within two months, the USAAC washed him out and he was sent home. The guy who tried to salvage it said “anyone can get it now, but only if they can fly it out of here”. That never made sense to me. I was only born in early 91, so I was a very little kid when NOVA had the program, but I remember it crystal clear still. Grandpa said “...he should’ve just disassembled her and flown her out on that cargo plane, any senseless recovery laws be damned...” I agree... he had the cargo planes, they could’ve done it. They took apart first one in 1992 and now apparently recently two of the P-38s of the Lost Squadron buried in the ice and flew the parts out on a DC-3, it’s how we got the Glacier Girl. He could’ve done it! Why not? “The glory of flying her home!” ...just a waste... but there looks to be more than enough to make a recovery worth it, even if just for parts for Doc and Fifi, a static display... or the base of a rebuilt to fly again!

    • @LoneWolf051
      @LoneWolf051 Před 3 lety

      their rebuild on the ice was pretty much flawless, I mean a fire like that can happen at any airport, they just needed fire equipment onboard, that was the main issue

    • @torstenscholz6243
      @torstenscholz6243 Před 10 měsíci

      The fuel pump didn't work so they installed a jury-rigged fuel tank over the apu that quickly started to spill fuel. That was highly unprofessional, they should have installed a new fuel pump, the this would not have happened. @@LoneWolf051

  • @fonziebulldog5786
    @fonziebulldog5786 Před 3 lety +2

    They changed the engines and gave her a big overhaul in that cold place and then she broke in half and burned. What a sad saving story.

  • @PacificAirwave144
    @PacificAirwave144 Před 6 lety +1

    I think I've the series on trying to recover this plane three or four times and every time I'm just in tears. I hope they can recover this plane and get some of it in the air again!

  • @sd906238
    @sd906238 Před 7 lety +7

    If "Snuffy Smith" were alive he could of pissed that fire out. It got a Congressional Medal of Honor for doing that in a B-17.

    • @markfrench8892
      @markfrench8892 Před 4 lety +1

      That's nothing more then a legion.

    • @None-zc5vg
      @None-zc5vg Před 3 lety

      @@markfrench8892 There was a WW2 Airforce Medal of Honor winner called 'Snuffy' Smith who saved a B-17 by putting out fires. He was,otherwise, an unpopular character.

    • @richardanderson5109
      @richardanderson5109 Před 3 lety +1

      @@markfrench8892
      French Foreign Leigon ?????,try *legend ♿ 🇺🇸

  • @johnmorello1164
    @johnmorello1164 Před 7 lety +6

    heartbreaking, but a valiant effort !

  • @michaelelvas364
    @michaelelvas364 Před 6 lety +4

    I hate to see such a legendary aircraft just going to waste like this :(

  • @tonipaola1764
    @tonipaola1764 Před 3 lety +4

    I can honestly say, that plane wasn't leaving that place long before they tried to rescue it. One of the crew said he had torn feelings, and he felt that it belonged out there, and poor Rick died making it run, it was just a mess. God bless them for trying, yes it should have been shipped out in pieces LONG before being flown, but hey, 'Merica, and look at those ailerons after sitting for 25 years! Not bad! Lots of usable parts still.

    • @user-bx7nw1ve6y
      @user-bx7nw1ve6y Před 3 lety +2

      The ailerons (as well as the rudder) were resurfaced by the salvage guys.

    • @BrainDamage0001
      @BrainDamage0001 Před 2 lety +2

      Well they couldn't exactly disassemble her and fly her out of the icy grave

  • @jamesthornton1867
    @jamesthornton1867 Před 5 lety +2

    I watch the production of that video at the end it broke my heart

  • @ellisdiggle1523
    @ellisdiggle1523 Před 5 lety +3

    Kee Bird could probably be salvaged and displayed as found or rebuilt for static display. The only FW 200 Condor was in a much worse condition when recovered but she now looks nearly new.

    • @FiveCentsPlease
      @FiveCentsPlease Před 5 lety +2

      +Defiant Shackleton There aren't any roads in the area but the remains could be lifted out if someone would pay for it. Nobody wants to display this aircraft as found as a monument to stupidity. It would be used for parts or a static rebuild, unless someone wants to spend major money to rebuild it completely.

  • @cadillacman028
    @cadillacman028 Před 3 lety +2

    Hopefully one day somebody will make a trip up there and grab whats left of her and bring it home .. maybe use the remaining parts to rebuild another 29. So the old bird could live on in another air frame

  • @s_wggns
    @s_wggns Před 4 lety +3

    After watching the documentary on this bird, I really agreed with the original pilots that the plane should've just been left there. It was a great effort in trying to rescue it but all the signs were showing that it wasn't meant to come home.

  • @wolfbyte3171
    @wolfbyte3171 Před 7 lety +16

    Terrible to see such an interesting plane in that state, but it almost looks... natural, like she crashed like that. I don't know, just trying to romanticize a failed salvage. It was a damn good effort on their part though.

    • @Halfstep2024
      @Halfstep2024 Před 3 lety +1

      Yea.. if you consider blindly throwing bodies and borrowed parts at a venture in an ill fated attempt at making a quick few million bucks, hurried so much you couldn’t even be bothered to make a damn runway a “good effort” then yea.. they knocked it out of the park!

  • @hubriswonk
    @hubriswonk Před 2 lety +1

    Interestingly, I have read that at some point the Air Force fitted Kee Bird with Doc's tale fin................things like this makes me believe we really are living in a simulation.

  • @norherman
    @norherman Před 3 lety +3

    I'm surprise the engine are still there. I think all four had fresh overhauls.

    • @bennoakes2477
      @bennoakes2477 Před 3 lety

      Why be surprised, they are destroyed

    • @norherman
      @norherman Před 3 lety

      @@bennoakes2477 They weren't on the day of the fire.

    • @bennoakes2477
      @bennoakes2477 Před 3 lety +2

      @@norherman they were moments after when plane collapsed onto the propellers which are attached to the engine shafts, but thanks.

  • @ducamuk
    @ducamuk Před 3 lety +4

    How sad. That was such a beautiful plane.

  • @charliecollard6433
    @charliecollard6433 Před 6 lety

    Thanks for the upload, so sad to see the state of it now, pity some parts couldnt still be salvaged....

    • @FiveCentsPlease
      @FiveCentsPlease Před 6 lety +1

      +Charlie Collard Some will be in time and I think a salvage permit was issued for a few misc items.

  • @mrfiestas
    @mrfiestas Před 11 měsíci

    Why are the prop blades bent if they were replaced and new and it never took off??

  • @icebluecuda1
    @icebluecuda1 Před 10 měsíci

    Thank you.

  • @stepvanjoe3469
    @stepvanjoe3469 Před 7 lety +4

    A real loss, and surprisingly no one had any thoughts of salvaging anything off of it such as engines...maybe to much money to

    • @FiveCentsPlease
      @FiveCentsPlease Před 6 lety +4

      +stepvan Joe The new engines and props were borrowed and the original owners would probably sue to get them back if they were salvaged.

    • @Halfstep2024
      @Halfstep2024 Před 3 lety +1

      They were probably not worth salvaging after they got done dragging everything around with their mini dozer before they left it so it couldn’t sink to the bottom.

  • @wvbygraceofgod5508
    @wvbygraceofgod5508 Před 6 lety +3

    Sorry that was, “too big of a hurry and smoothed out the taxi area”. I got into too big of a hurry typing.

  • @carlitostephano8911
    @carlitostephano8911 Před 7 lety +24

    If I ever for 3 million to blow I'm going to kee bird

    • @Spacecat1969
      @Spacecat1969  Před 7 lety +4

      Carlito Stephano This plus the entire lost squadron lol.

    • @briananderson8733
      @briananderson8733 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Spacecat1969 At least they recovered and rebuilt Glacier Girl The P-38 from the lost squadron.

  • @TILLMANc2
    @TILLMANc2 Před 3 lety

    I remember that, one of the engineer's died from an illness whilst getting kee bird going. Rip mate.

  • @NS-tn3th
    @NS-tn3th Před 4 lety

    I watched the team try to recover it as a kid. This is just depressing, god speed Kee Bird

  • @tlfrantz1
    @tlfrantz1 Před 3 lety +1

    How did some of the propeller blades get bent? The engines were stopped when it burned down.

    • @Halfstep2024
      @Halfstep2024 Před 3 lety +1

      Look at the wing.. after the fire they obviously drug it to where it was perhaps more shallow, damaging the wings in the process. You can see where the chains and stuff dug a quarter way through the wings

    • @torstenscholz6243
      @torstenscholz6243 Před 3 lety

      @@Halfstep2024 If that's true (and it's very likely as it would explain the damage to the wings) then it only even more shows their incompetence. Their effort was Murphy's Law at its worst, they never would have managed to make it fly safely, sooner or later it would literally have fallen apart anyway.

  • @user-zu5up3ln3u
    @user-zu5up3ln3u Před 6 lety +6

    Is there any way to still save the airplane ? I mean get it out the ice (with out setting it on fire ) and maybe save the parts that are still in good shape and mix it with parts of an other b29 if there still one which isn’t restored?

    • @FiveCentsPlease
      @FiveCentsPlease Před 6 lety +1

      +World of Tanks Player Yes and no. Greenland was angry about the mess that they left and shut down permits for salvage for a while, but I think they would grant a permit now. But there are no roads anywhere near it so anything that leaves is going out by air and that is very expensive. The new engines and props were borrowed and still belong to the original owner. There are enough usable items left there to salvage if someone will fund it. But there are also a good number of other B-29 survivors that could be obtained for a flying example, most of which are already in museums for display or gate guards.

    • @BobSmith-dk8nw
      @BobSmith-dk8nw Před 5 lety +1

      The water melts every summer so someone could do it if they wanted to. But it wouldn't be easy. They should have done that right after the fire though.
      .

    • @bap7929
      @bap7929 Před 5 lety

      Plus there outta be a B29 airframe in China Lake they can use for the burned sections.

    • @torstenscholz6243
      @torstenscholz6243 Před 5 lety

      I don't think there is much left to salvage except maybe a few single small parts. The plane rests on the bottom of a lake, meaning that it is often at least partially covered with water, meaning that the engines and all electric things are broken, and the fuselage and the cockpit were largely destroyed by the fire.

  • @----.__
    @----.__ Před 6 lety +3

    The fact they tried to fly this without a complete overhaul leaves me feeling nothing but anger towards the morons involved. It would have been bad enough to lose the aircraft in flight, and the crew, but to also risk the public's life with such a reckless move is unforgivable.

  • @spacemutt1978
    @spacemutt1978 Před 5 lety +6

    This is the first time I've been able to watch anything about Kee Bird since I first saw the documentary where she burned. Such a stupid and tragic event that should never have happened, all because they wanted the bravado of flying it out of there. Such a waste. One of them even died doing it.

  • @marktaylor7115
    @marktaylor7115 Před rokem +1

    Damage to the rear of the wing wasn't there before 🤔

  • @Soulvex
    @Soulvex Před 3 lety +3

    I know you took something from that plane, what was it?

  • @mtpleasantmadman7648
    @mtpleasantmadman7648 Před 6 lety +6

    Damn You Darryl Greenamyer!

  • @delta3sigma
    @delta3sigma Před 7 lety +2

    In the video, what was meant by "Washington Land" in far NW Greenland?

  • @highlysuggestible861
    @highlysuggestible861 Před 3 lety +1

    Even great people suffer disappointment, perhaps more than most, as they're much more likely and willing to try.

  • @jamesrogers4674
    @jamesrogers4674 Před 10 měsíci

    The prop is bent. How?

  • @eccentricdetectorists9754

    Hope some day she flys again!!!! I cried as a little boy when the bird burnt up on the OPB program frozen in time.

  • @sanfranciscobay
    @sanfranciscobay Před 3 lety +4

    I give credit to Daryl and his crew for the attempt. They were so close to flying that plane home. Here is the entire video of it's attempt. czcams.com/video/2g3ZU0ZEVRk/video.html

    • @bennoakes2477
      @bennoakes2477 Před 3 lety +2

      just like you give him credit for destroying the plane, it's a world of balance

  • @twentyonetwelve2179
    @twentyonetwelve2179 Před 5 lety +2

    Daryl felt pressed for time. No excuse... Daryl and all of his techs should have known better. They should have seen the possibility of the equipment being loose in the tail causing an issue.

    • @FiveCentsPlease
      @FiveCentsPlease Před 5 lety +2

      +TwnetyOneTwelve The should have fixed the fuel pump on the APU instead of rigging up a makeshift fuel can. That's what started the fire.

  • @fw1421
    @fw1421 Před 3 lety +3

    If only they had properly secured that generator.

    • @richardanderson5109
      @richardanderson5109 Před 3 lety +1

      fw1421
      Yeah, "If a frog had wings he wouldn't bump his ass"a quote atributed to Willie Nelson !!!!!! ♿ 🇺🇸

  • @gottjager760
    @gottjager760 Před 6 lety +7

    Its a god damn tragedy.

  • @michaelcuff5780
    @michaelcuff5780 Před 6 lety +3

    Such a shame! I think if those guys werent pressed for time they would have flown that plane out. But you know what happens when you hurry. You make mistakes.

    • @torstenscholz6243
      @torstenscholz6243 Před 3 lety

      Yeah, that was the big mistake - too little time. They tried to do too much within too little time with little room for errors, which resulted in some poor decisions. The takeoff was very rushed without properly checking the plane through. Otherwise they would have recognized the broken APU that led to this desaster.

  • @robm9460
    @robm9460 Před 3 lety +1

    Why don’t they raise that 29 from Lake Mead? It’s perfectly intact and in good shape in 90 feet of water. Now Lake Mead is 40% capacity. Now is the time!

    • @FiveCentsPlease
      @FiveCentsPlease Před 3 lety +1

      + Rob M Lake Mead is US Park Service land and I doubt they will ever agree to raising it. (Perhaps if the fuel and oil start leaking.) It's like an ancient buried ground.

  • @Niterider73
    @Niterider73 Před 5 lety +1

    I am actually very surprised that he was not sued over leaving the borrowed props and engines. Just blew my mind when I watched the documentary and noticed the engines, props, tires, and everything else that was new was not salvaged

    • @FiveCentsPlease
      @FiveCentsPlease Před 5 lety +2

      +Niterider albin I think they were sued over the borrowed parts. And they were sued by the family of the mechanic who died for not carrying required health insurance, if I recall..

    • @Halfstep2024
      @Halfstep2024 Před 3 lety +2

      They attempted to salvage them. Or at least they attempted to drag it off the lake. You can tell by the damage to it in this video.

  • @gordswaitkewich940
    @gordswaitkewich940 Před 8 měsíci

    The remains need to be salvaged for usable parts. Its sad what happened to this bird after sitting. For over half a century in pretty much pristine condition

  • @alfredwilson7276
    @alfredwilson7276 Před 3 lety +1

    That poor B29 is probably saying, no thanks, I don't need anymore "rescuing". I was doing just fine before that last crew completely destroyed me.

  • @bernadettegarbers9552
    @bernadettegarbers9552 Před 11 měsíci

    Just wondering is there any plans to selvage what's left ......

  • @Beautifultruthofficial
    @Beautifultruthofficial Před 4 lety +1

    Very sad. Those engines are zero hour rebuilds.

  • @wewuzvikangz4829
    @wewuzvikangz4829 Před 5 lety +1

    Cant some of it still be salvaged for parts? Metal doesn't burn and those panels could help restore other b29s, there has to still be useful equipment on it?

    • @FiveCentsPlease
      @FiveCentsPlease Před 5 lety +2

      +John Smith Greenland was pissed and shut down the site for a while. I think now there may be some salvage rights granted for small parts.

    • @MartintheTinman
      @MartintheTinman Před 4 lety +2

      Aluminium melts in a fuel fire

    • @teenagerinsac
      @teenagerinsac Před 3 lety

      @@MartintheTinman Magnesium wing panels burn very readily when flames touch them, so do wheel halves.

    • @Halfstep2024
      @Halfstep2024 Před 3 lety +1

      No..

  • @clearcreek69
    @clearcreek69 Před 3 lety +1

    Wasn't Paul Allen restoring a warbird at one time before his death? He'd probably fund an operation to salvage the Kee Bird but we'll never know

  • @philipme109
    @philipme109 Před 6 lety +14

    Greenmeyer who tried to fly this aircraft out is a JERK! A FOOL! He could have had it taken back in sections and properly rebuilt and flown. The heater that caused the fire would not have been used! Greenmeyer should never be allowed around aircraft again!!

    • @FiveCentsPlease
      @FiveCentsPlease Před 6 lety +4

      +philipeme109 Not a heater. They used a makeshift fuel can on the APU after the fuel pump broke.

    • @philipme109
      @philipme109 Před 6 lety +4

      FiveCentsPlease OOPS my mistake. I still think this aircraft should be recovered as a source of spair parts. The wings and engines could be used on another aircraft.

    • @FiveCentsPlease
      @FiveCentsPlease Před 6 lety +5

      +phillipeme109 The engines were borrowed zero-time engines, and I am pretty sure that the original owner will still have legal claim to them. However, I understand that Greenland shut down salvage permits after this mess but has recently began allowing permits again. I read elsewhere that some items have been salvaged. It would be a bigger effort to salvage all of it although I hope that happens one day.

    • @philipme109
      @philipme109 Před 3 lety

      @@FiveCentsPlease More stupidity on Greenmeyers part!

    • @philipme109
      @philipme109 Před 3 lety +1

      @@FiveCentsPlease I have seen photos of B-29 fuselages in various locations. Keybirds wings and tail section survived the fire. Perhaps the nose gear can be salvaged as well.

  • @Simsonschieber
    @Simsonschieber Před 7 lety +8

    Hey, the Engines are nearly new xD

    • @erykbing3587
      @erykbing3587 Před 6 lety +1

      gordon mathew barely 4 years since this year...they were changed for operational...they are probably destroyed because of the fire

  • @tubefluid
    @tubefluid Před 3 lety

    I wonder why the one prop blade is bent? The engines were shut down during the fire.

  • @davelewandoski4292
    @davelewandoski4292 Před rokem +2

    why Greenamyer didn't salvage the new engines, props, tires, etc from that disaster shows what a tool he really was.

    • @torstenscholz6243
      @torstenscholz6243 Před 11 měsíci

      That's because they were rented, so of anyone tried to salvage them, the actual owner would demand them back.