Let's Talk About "The Financial Report that Killed Tarkov" - Escape from Tarkov

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  • Talking more indepth about the video "The Financial Report that Killed Tarkov" and covering more indepth about some of the points and situation regarding the finances of Escape from Tarkov and microtransactions into the future.
    The @riloegaming video: • The Financial Report t...
    My video about Micro-Transactions: • Is Tarkov Pay to Win a...
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  • @Pestily
    @Pestily  Před 3 měsíci +910

    I want to make a point here about discussing the stakeholders section (nikita etc.) as I think this may bring some negative attitudes towards certain people. I believe people deserve to be paid and compensated for their value of bringing an idea to fruition. Otherwise Tarkov would of never existed in the first place or grown to what it is now. So whilst they've been paid a lot I think they deserve the money personally.

    • @Ka0t1c
      @Ka0t1c Před 3 měsíci +37

      *would’ve

    • @raptor1217
      @raptor1217 Před 3 měsíci +5

      100% agree pest

    • @macrot5419
      @macrot5419 Před 3 měsíci

      Good job. ​@@Ka0t1c biggest loser in youtube comment section.

    • @DanielJohnson-dz8qr
      @DanielJohnson-dz8qr Před 3 měsíci +14

      Thanks for adding this mate. There's probably a lot of people that don't realise that this is just plain business. The Russia/Ukraine conflict and indeed some people's ideology against Russians in the wake of this, may have led to their negativity view on just plain business.

    • @_tarnished_
      @_tarnished_ Před 3 měsíci +13

      @@DanielJohnson-dz8qr Russians are people too! BSG have done fantastic work imo and have created one of my all time favourite games

  • @riloegaming
    @riloegaming Před 3 měsíci +1664

    Thank you so much for your points! I’m of course honored that you took the time to watch this and break it down, but especially because you provided elaboration on many points I didn’t get the chance to include. This video was originally FAR longer and much more opinionated; it was rewritten and cut down drastically. I agree with every point you made, and I honestly think this acts as a great partner analysis to my video, so again, thank you!

    • @drinkmorecocacola
      @drinkmorecocacola Před 3 měsíci +80

      Ladies and gentlemen, I introduce to you, the new greatest Tarkov content creator ever made in the history of CZcams.
      Riloe was created when g0at escaped from Tarkov.

    • @Annathroy
      @Annathroy Před 3 měsíci +12

      Opinions do NOT matter only the facts. Thank You for cutting most of Your opinions out.
      //Edit : for clarity

    • @AnEnemyAnemone1
      @AnEnemyAnemone1 Před 3 měsíci +17

      @@Annathroybraindead take holy shit I think I got cancer reading this

    • @DecaDose
      @DecaDose Před 3 měsíci +1

      So fire bro! Glad your content and hard work is getting views

    • @Annathroy
      @Annathroy Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@AnEnemyAnemone1 lmao

  • @PaladinFury
    @PaladinFury Před 3 měsíci +943

    Imagine if they added different variations of the Hideout?
    Same unlocks, same everything - but graphically different.
    Subway hideout? Skyrise hideout? Forest cabin hideout?
    That'd be neat and relatively easy to implement. Wouldn't help you ingame, just give you cosmetics to splurge on.

    • @SteveIsHavingMC
      @SteveIsHavingMC Před 3 měsíci +121

      hideout skins? actually a good idea, i like it

    • @Psydvckthefirst
      @Psydvckthefirst Před 3 měsíci +19

      Yep, dev of Road to Vostok stated that they already have 4 different hideouts thru giant map.
      Waiting so much to see it.

    • @DanielJohnson-dz8qr
      @DanielJohnson-dz8qr Před 3 měsíci +2

      Great idea and skins in general has been done before with the COD games and that's never impacted the overall experience.

    • @Dickstick
      @Dickstick Před 3 měsíci

      I highly doubt that will happen.
      Skins like you mean it generally get implemented in a game where you can nearly exclusively buy cosmetics and nothing else. Nothing that completely alters you game experience.
      Tarkov is way beyond that with "pay 2 win" editions and their coming microtransactions, that provide a massive advantage towards other players.
      I believe they will much likely implement more p2w features, like instant lvl 50 in certain skills, no wait for constructing/crafting stuff or buying trader rep for real life money instead of purely cosmetic skins. Get ready to pay real money for predefined kits.

    • @SpaceRanger187
      @SpaceRanger187 Před 3 měsíci +2

      They should, along with player skins. Just what I need another game to spend to much money on cosmetics

  • @ericmcmanus5179
    @ericmcmanus5179 Před 3 měsíci +203

    When a game is 8 years in early access, I dont see why it would be crazy for the player base to become hyper critical about it by that point.

    • @Robot-Overlord
      @Robot-Overlord Před 3 měsíci +9

      You'd think so till you realize how long 7 Days to Die has been in Alpha.

    • @MaggotAddict21
      @MaggotAddict21 Před 3 měsíci +17

      This game is also bigger, and more complex than any other FPS game on the market ever.

    • @rycs16
      @rycs16 Před 3 měsíci +16

      @@Robot-Overlord 7 days to die isn't even PRETENDING to be a AAA game...

    • @dguz73
      @dguz73 Před 3 měsíci +7

      @@Robot-OverlordI think it’s more fair to compare it to rust or dayz, each of those was in early access for 4-6 years.

    • @local9
      @local9 Před 3 měsíci +14

      @@Robot-Overlord Star Citizen entered the room

  • @notjman7979
    @notjman7979 Před 3 měsíci +92

    Accountant here. Ending a year in a loss position isn't really necessarily a bad thing or an uncommon one. Financial projections and data require year over year trend analysis to really understand the true specifics and while I'm also skeptical about the motives, I think it's important to mention that there's is a heavy cost associated with maintaining a game like this and its server/player base.
    "Going back on your word" isn't necessarily the bad thing it has been painted as, and if they've realized they need a consistent income stream to ensure that Tarkov stays online, I can say that as a reasonably informed consumer, I can make the logical leaps necessary to understand it. Admitting you were wrong and telling the truth about what's necessary in a modern business environment is something I can commend.
    Definitely going to be skeptical, but I'm hopeful for the future of it, and am glad to see the barrier to entry reduced slightly.

    • @retagainez
      @retagainez Před 3 měsíci +2

      Analyzing the changelogs year over year would give everyone a bigger insight than anything.

    • @ryanscott2745
      @ryanscott2745 Před 3 měsíci +1

      I don't understand accounting or any of that but something fishy is definitely going on lol.

    • @mcchaderson
      @mcchaderson Před 3 měsíci +9

      @@ryanscott2745this is how Q Anon starts.

    • @dewfan4
      @dewfan4 Před 3 měsíci +13

      “I don’t understand it but I have a very strong opinion” Jesus

    • @DoingTheBestICan
      @DoingTheBestICan Před 3 měsíci +4

      @@ryanscott2745 "Wow, you really seem like you know what you're talking about. But I don't really understand what it is you said so I'm just gonna come to my own conclusion anyways." Lol. Lmao, even.

  • @Murika1995
    @Murika1995 Před 3 měsíci +700

    No one thinks that the sound system should be finally wrapped up? New and new content, but such a game without competitive audio system is just sad.

    • @TwiggehTV
      @TwiggehTV Před 3 měsíci +121

      Audio needs an overhaul, netcode needs an overhaul, lighting (specifically shadows) needs an overhaul.....
      SoonTM!

    • @Mcfc2Rich
      @Mcfc2Rich Před 3 měsíci +79

      Audio & cheating are the 2 biggest major flaws.

    • @RedMedsRedemption
      @RedMedsRedemption Před 3 měsíci +19

      Idk man, I play maybe 10 hours a week and I’ve never noticed any issue with the audio. Cheating yes but audio seems to be getting better?

    • @yonakatsu4878
      @yonakatsu4878 Před 3 měsíci +15

      cheating is pretty obnoxious but when I can hear a cheater coming it doesn't really matter much for them. I think they should fix sound and shadows before anything. The game is just too dark windows have such a large presence simply from not being able to see into them.

    • @ProbablyFat
      @ProbablyFat Před 3 měsíci +41

      Been playing since 2017, I have been absolutely impressed how they manage to NEVER NEVER NEVER ever fix the audio issue. Just how they ignore such a core function for year after year is just impressive....

  • @christianwendt7852
    @christianwendt7852 Před 3 měsíci +156

    I love the auto-subtitles that tell me this is another "estate for taco" video 👍

  • @tmmy2ootuff843
    @tmmy2ootuff843 Před 3 měsíci +10

    Riloe did a great job with that vid! Thanks Pest for touching on the subject. I don't do microtransactions at all, but if I gotta buy myself a Hideout Pet to help keep my favorite game in the green that seems like a win-win and an easy choice. At the end of the day, it is still a business and making $ while doin what you love is the name of the game. I personally don't think any numbers involving wages were unreasonable, nor do I think Nik and team would straight up let greed interfere with their dream of making something great that has no problem succeeding naturally. IMO.

  • @Shmooexe3440
    @Shmooexe3440 Před 3 měsíci

    This was a great break down and very insightful both your reaction and the original. Thank you for always breaking these videos down and being helpful as always. Much love farther pest

  • @hjm9586
    @hjm9586 Před 3 měsíci +423

    Arena was a foolish move. Making a new game before the actual one is completed. But now we're here.

    • @ones9308
      @ones9308 Před 3 měsíci +25

      Arena was always a part of the EFT plans, the execution was flawed though.

    • @kalle8960
      @kalle8960 Před 3 měsíci +88

      @@ones9308doesnt matter if its planned or not it should come AFTER the main game regardless

    • @freshnesbro3792
      @freshnesbro3792 Před 3 měsíci +6

      lmao Arena was planned to release 2018, bsg will take its time.

    • @Soniq_YT
      @Soniq_YT Před 3 měsíci +4

      Arena was planned but rushed ahead of schedule because of the pressure from the community and streamers.. I remember watching MANY streams where the main streamers were joined by Nikita and Pestilys main topic was always “where’s Arena, How long will it be”
      Then when Nikita raised its development with investors im sure they wanted to market and monotise it to make sure it was worth being moved forward in the development plan.,

    • @CM86x
      @CM86x Před 3 měsíci +18

      ​​@Soniq_YT I don't think streamers should be the voice for communities of any gam, but thats just me..

  • @FunziesGuy
    @FunziesGuy Před 3 měsíci +36

    I understand. At the same time, micro transactions ALWAYS end up going further than was originally intended. Once the cash flow starts coming in, owners/stakeholders can’t help themselves.
    Eventually it usually ends up breaking the tone. At first it’s a small amount. Then it slowly but surely builds.

    • @m2hmghb
      @m2hmghb Před 3 měsíci

      Not always. Usually. I've been in a couple games where they stuck to their guns about it - which is why I had no problem buying microtransactions from them. I want to say I have played 4 games where creep didn't set in out of hundreds.

    • @trackex9783
      @trackex9783 Před 3 měsíci

      for me regular tarkov was dead the second i was able to buy more stash space as EOD owner, i dont understand why so many people dont care that the game will be riddled with stupid skins in acouple of years and only the players that buy that stuff with real money will ever enjoy that... but this is the sate of modern gaming

    • @erikmy2
      @erikmy2 Před 3 měsíci

      It depends on how greedy the owners are, and as long as Nikita & Co are the owners, I highly doubt they will let it get out of hand, as it's their baby. However, if they decide to sell or bring other investors, things may change.

    • @kingkarlito
      @kingkarlito Před 3 měsíci

      these sort of microtransactions are what killed WoW. they gave up on fighting bots and started selling the token, which commoditized every single action you take in the game.

    • @GoodGuyRuska-
      @GoodGuyRuska- Před 2 měsíci

      @@kingkarlito microtransactions didn't kill WoW constant shitty updates by blizzard and the ability to buy gold killed WoW

  • @bluntsninja9982
    @bluntsninja9982 Před 3 měsíci

    This was aawesome vid homie, thanks for keeping us up to date

  • @BigBoyCarp
    @BigBoyCarp Před 3 měsíci +6

    ty for bringing some light to this amazing creator i’ve following riloe for quite a bit and i think he deserves more exposure ❤

  • @Bucser
    @Bucser Před 3 měsíci +22

    In the video (I have watched it thoroughly) the Cost of Goods sold is grossly misunderstood. That usually includes development costs. I am non qualified accountant (have a degree both accounting and finance). Also completely ignores the fact that the UK entity is used to funnel the goods to several offshore entities to Russia (as Russia is embargoed country).

  • @LoLoercaust
    @LoLoercaust Před 3 měsíci +185

    For anyone wondering the creator they copyright striked is called Eroktic the DMCAed all his tarkov videos because he made a video telling people to enable 2FA since there was some backdoor and people were getting their accounts stolen Nikitia didnt like that and issued 47 false copyright claims effectively trying to kill his channel because if you have 3 claims on your account CZcams will ban the account this was honestly one of the scummiest things Nikita has done and its a shame people have just forgotten about it

    • @stonii420
      @stonii420 Před 3 měsíci +1

      "enable 2FA since there was some backdoor and people were getting their accounts stolen Nikitia didn't like that and issued 47 false copyright claims" so the content creator was telling people to turn on 2FA that allowed the account to be stolen if they enabled 2FA?

    • @stonii420
      @stonii420 Před 3 měsíci +16

      wait nvm im dumb, without the 2FA they could get in, im stupid.

    • @Bloodworia
      @Bloodworia Před 3 měsíci

      Typical Russian power tactics. Scum.

    • @wrakowic
      @wrakowic Před 3 měsíci +39

      Start using punctuation ffs

    • @espionagesnail7650
      @espionagesnail7650 Před 3 měsíci

      do you have the video

  • @jaydenkoopmans4425
    @jaydenkoopmans4425 Před 3 měsíci +1

    It’s so nice to see riloe get some attention, probably my favorite tarkov content creator

  • @Cameron-ls3qt
    @Cameron-ls3qt Před 3 měsíci +7

    Everyone just glosses over the fact that apparently they sold roughly 900k copies but they definitely have nowhere near the player count to make that seem reasonable without cheating being a HUGE issue.

  • @FATELESSXVX
    @FATELESSXVX Před 3 měsíci +12

    when you love something so much and you see it disappoint you time and time again its not hard to see why people who love it a lot become its harshest critic cause those are the people who want it to be the best it can be.

    • @tombola345
      @tombola345 Před 3 měsíci

      You sound like my girlfriend.

    • @Wahrborg
      @Wahrborg Před 3 měsíci

      i hope you don't have kids..

  • @Rmann327
    @Rmann327 Před 3 měsíci

    To the algorithm and beyond! Great work like always!

  • @easytargetjay4641
    @easytargetjay4641 Před 2 měsíci

    Thanks for this as always very comprehensive

  • @JohnMalcolm
    @JohnMalcolm Před 3 měsíci +8

    Two thoughts:
    The idea that legitimate player nicro-transactions will compensate for the loss of revenue they make from cheats rebuying accounts is laughable.
    The fact that a Saint Petersburg based company can get around sanctions by being "based" in London is baffling. I suspect they've just not been investigated yet by HM Govt.

    • @LoLoercaust
      @LoLoercaust Před 3 měsíci

      theyve been based in London way before any sanctions were put in place

  • @dylanbunch562
    @dylanbunch562 Před 3 měsíci +9

    “ Game is not supposed to be fun haha “
    He was always gonna kill this one.

    • @NoDFX_
      @NoDFX_ Před 3 měsíci +4

      You know it's ass if the development team is saying it's ass.

  • @hansonewertz
    @hansonewertz Před 3 měsíci +1

    Good work as always, Pest!

  • @jayphillips4167
    @jayphillips4167 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Thanks for showcasing this situation and video by Riloe. Definitely puts things into perspective for players who want a little shred of knowledge of what's going on behind the scenes.

  • @denniz8423
    @denniz8423 Před 3 měsíci +6

    I think if the arena was a pure copy of CS they would have succeeded, imagine having a good eco round and then buying an m4 and being able to afford to mod it for that round. But BSG chose to go the Contract Wars way and that game is really popular, or not

  • @fuegogeneral546
    @fuegogeneral546 Před 3 měsíci +8

    Yknow, glad Riloe is getting more and more attention these days. He's a great creator, good videos and so on. Despite the focus of the video, he's got some good stuff on gaming as a whole.

  • @e2gosselin
    @e2gosselin Před 3 měsíci

    Thanks for making another great video

  • @Slaven42
    @Slaven42 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I joined in late this wipe when i decided to play randomly and was pleasantly surprised by how great the game felt. 180fps+ on almost all maps (except streets), recoil is great, time to kill seems fine.

  • @mlang13579
    @mlang13579 Před 3 měsíci +3

    first wipe player here. I agree that Arena was an amazing jumping off point for me to get started in regular eft. My speculation of at least another reason arena flopped was they wiped EFT and people had to get back on that grind. had to make sure they stay ahead of the curve before quests got annoying to do... at least thats my take on it

    • @That0Homeless0Guy
      @That0Homeless0Guy Před měsícem

      That definitely made an impact. If they'd released a month or two before wipe when the game was in late wipe it probably would have got more attention from both eft players and new players who wanted to get into it before the next wipe.

  • @bakedpotato7254
    @bakedpotato7254 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Yearly profits(losses) are nothing if we're not looking at retained earnings and the carryover year to year.

  • @Dustydabs
    @Dustydabs Před 3 měsíci +1

    Agree that the Riloe vid was a great take Pest. One of the things that drew me to EFT, aside from the game itself, was the fact it seemed to have an older player base on average. As an older gamer I really appreciate a more mature and well considered take on these issues. As long as they don't introduce OP cosmetics like ghillie suits etc, then let players pay for their drip and everyone wins in the end.

  • @user-vp3sf7vj3s
    @user-vp3sf7vj3s Před 3 měsíci

    great video, thanx to Pestily who explained a bit how low quality some videos (about Tarkov) are

  • @brandonmeyer2327
    @brandonmeyer2327 Před 3 měsíci +14

    The community is hyper critical because of the risk/reward system of the game. In most games where u get nothing for losing a 30+ minute "match", the community is going to notice every little thing wrong with the game and shout about it from the mountain tops. Not just games like Tarkov with loot, but league of legends comes to mind also...

    • @smefiregod6566
      @smefiregod6566 Před 3 měsíci

      Exactly like League of Legend Ranked. Its slow, and if you loose your LP you need again to replay for 40 min

    • @Blacky_ljb1
      @Blacky_ljb1 Před 3 měsíci

      Overwatch is the exact same, Devs can't appease everyone

    • @yourewrongabouteverything
      @yourewrongabouteverything Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@@Blacky_ljb1nope, but that also doesn't mean you can't be hyper critical toward them when they deserve it and bsg deserves it

    • @mgs85
      @mgs85 Před 3 měsíci +4

      And because it's an incompetently made beta. People need to be critical, as they are the only ones providing feedback directly to the developer (they have no real QA team) or this games development takes eons longer. Can't tell you how much of this BS 'hyper-criticalness' has correctly steered the EFT ship, even in moments changing Nikita's mind from making bad business and game decisions. So many moments over the years.
      Yes, we are involved, and EFT benefits from it. Despite howevermany losers say obnoxious things to them.

    • @smefiregod6566
      @smefiregod6566 Před 3 měsíci

      If a streamer would be PDG of the game, it would be the best game ever@@mgs85

  • @johnpeters2508
    @johnpeters2508 Před 3 měsíci +18

    To go to 1.0 WE NEED SOUNDS REWORK TOO

    • @noneofyourbiz3042
      @noneofyourbiz3042 Před 3 měsíci +3

      I can deal with the sound but get rid of the cheaters

    • @Reapex-ys7wq
      @Reapex-ys7wq Před 3 měsíci

      @@noneofyourbiz3042naw sound js 100x worse than cheaters. I die to cheaters 1 out of 50 raids and that’s being generous

  • @TheCliqueGaming
    @TheCliqueGaming Před 3 měsíci

    great breakdown bro!

  • @owenholt2574
    @owenholt2574 Před 3 měsíci +4

    @pestily If you look at the Statement of Cash Flows for the financial records from dated 1/31/2023, no money was taken out of the company by the shareholders. This does not include the salary paid to Nikitia for him to live/devote his time to the project. But no dividend paid for 2023. There were also no dividends paid in 2022, so the only comp to shareholders would be salaries paid to employees who are also shareholders. In fact, it looks like in 2022, due to the loss for the year, Nikita and Dmitriy took a portion of their salary in an IOU (Almost 5 Million each) This may indicate they are paid over this amount each year in salary, which is also included in the cost of sales figure. Moreover, in the notes, they indicate only one person works in the administration of the back office. This cannot be correct with a multinational business. All the tax implications for sales of digital product in the US alone would require a full time person, or a massive amount of third party contractors inputting this information.

    • @nicechock
      @nicechock Před 3 měsíci +1

      this original video is a poor attempt to make money like the wiggle video. get millions of views to make a few thousands bucks. These financial records are fake and will amount to nothing even published.

    • @owenholt2574
      @owenholt2574 Před 2 měsíci

      @@nicechock The statements for all British Companies are online, BSG included. They are audited and certified by a charted accountant in UK. Are you claiming you have evidence that the statements are materially false?

    • @nicechock
      @nicechock Před 2 měsíci

      nonsense. BSG gives them the information. They can be easily fixed like this that it seems they didnt make profit. We dont need proof here, You are welcome to believe the numbers are right. In that case I just view you as a naive person.@@owenholt2574

  • @jwaffle42
    @jwaffle42 Před 3 měsíci +11

    I don’t think anything will change with “1.0”

    • @thomasgrey9121
      @thomasgrey9121 Před 3 měsíci +4

      I doubt there will be 1.0 in first place

    • @jeremymcadam7400
      @jeremymcadam7400 Před 3 měsíci

      I think you misunderstand what 1.0 means.

    • @jwaffle42
      @jwaffle42 Před 2 měsíci

      @@jeremymcadam7400 no I don’t because we’ve been playing a $150 “beta” for 8 years.

  • @peterpaul7932
    @peterpaul7932 Před 3 měsíci +25

    Side Note: His Server Calc is nothing but ridiculous. As Someone who's Job is (for over 1 Decade already btw.) Server-Rent-Scaling for all our Software Partners, i can assure you 300 Dollars per Server if you Rent 5.000+ Servers is nothing but weird, ridiculous and all other words you can find for it. Its realisticly something closer to 20% - 25% of this. I think you should not Report about Things as a Fact if you have no clue - but first get someone interviewed that knows what you try to Communicate.

  • @masterprediction7353
    @masterprediction7353 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I’m sad they got rid of that edition because i was going to get it but didn’t realize it was going away.

  • @kevinoutlaw2637
    @kevinoutlaw2637 Před 3 měsíci

    Thanks for the video.

  • @teall3063
    @teall3063 Před 3 měsíci +7

    2019-2021 = peak tarkov I even got kappa once
    2021-2024 = I dont even go to max traders anymore

    • @LoLoercaust
      @LoLoercaust Před 3 měsíci +3

      felt this it feels so bad coming back to this game every year and the same stupid shit is still an issue

    • @d3nso_
      @d3nso_ Před 3 měsíci +4

      Nowdays I don't even play enough to get past lvl 30... It's a broken game and the only thing fun is the early wipe

    • @Brooyah
      @Brooyah Před 3 měsíci +2

      fr, the game isnt worth putting time into anymore. the game is too restrictive imo. it seems like every wipe the game becomes less diverse and boring.

    • @phantomtr1
      @phantomtr1 Před 3 měsíci

      99 percent of players won't even get to buy the new gun except through the market

    • @noticer3721
      @noticer3721 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@d3nso_ 100% this, friends come back for exactly one week of fun only to realize nothing has ever been fixed. The recoil was a nice change but the horrible audio, desync, bugs, spawns, AI, ect. pushed them far away. Each and every single wipe I'm the last one remaining because I'm dumb and just look for the 1% of fun this game has to offer.

  • @cmdrlt.evildead5328
    @cmdrlt.evildead5328 Před 3 měsíci +6

    I’m possibly not the first but i think they need to also have a PvE mode that also allowed you to rank up. I know a few friends that would love that option.

    • @drtragedy1670
      @drtragedy1670 Před 2 měsíci

      Play the single player mod if it’s too hard

    • @cmdrlt.evildead5328
      @cmdrlt.evildead5328 Před 2 měsíci

      @@drtragedy1670well yeah it is a hard game but just think it would be fun to sometimes switch out the gameplay a little. Don’t bet me wrong i only have a few wipes under my belt but sometimes you want to wind off the PvE. What’s this mod you talking about? lol

    • @cmdrlt.evildead5328
      @cmdrlt.evildead5328 Před 2 měsíci

      @@drtragedy1670 woah!! Not gonna lie i thought you were trolling me until i did a google on this 👀 haha wicked man !!! lol thanks.

    • @drtragedy1670
      @drtragedy1670 Před měsícem

      @@cmdrlt.evildead5328 its not bad, i tried, i got bored fast

  • @DaddyFatSackYT
    @DaddyFatSackYT Před 3 měsíci

    Great video Pestily!

  • @VulturousStuff
    @VulturousStuff Před 3 měsíci +1

    Every game I pick up someone else's gun and reload my hands bug and I have disconnect to fix it. Mostly I just die in the first 3 bullets head eyes before I even see anyone.

  • @Killjoy.Z
    @Killjoy.Z Před 3 měsíci +7

    People talking about audio and cheating, but the biggest problem to me is the performance and frame rate of the game. There is no excuse for a game that looks this bad, and the maps being this small, that this game struggles to get past 100 FPS on a very good machine. To me that is an embarrassment in the industry. I'm not a programmer so I don't know the technical shit involved, but it's almost like each texture is fully modeled on each side and the map is being double rendered. There is something that programmers in BSG are not doing that practically every other first world dev is doing. There is some type of engineering technique that is lacking for this to be happening.

    • @HeroismGaming
      @HeroismGaming Před 3 měsíci

      100%. If they dont optimize the game, then its a poor release, ran with the money.

    • @RodeoJake
      @RodeoJake Před 3 měsíci +1

      yeah me running 120fps on ultra on every game vs running this on low settings with 40-60 frames is ridiculous

    • @Killjoy.Z
      @Killjoy.Z Před 3 měsíci +1

      Like, they literally need to hire contractors from Nvidia/AMD to go in there and figure out what the fuck they have done.

  • @coen1772
    @coen1772 Před 3 měsíci

    Recently found out Riloe, glad to see his video on here

  • @graemepennell
    @graemepennell Před 3 měsíci +1

    The only way bsg will be able to really help cover costs WILL BE to charge for the server usage, just like many other FPS games have done over the years.

  • @nukachronic6211
    @nukachronic6211 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Love your content Pest. Unfortunately, I managed to play Tarkov for over 1k hours and made very little progress. I just never got better, so I quit. Still hurts but I can't force myself to play something as stressful as Tarkov. I don't like how it affects my mental state, which is something I have never encountered in a video game before or since.

  • @gjermundsenneztsosie2625
    @gjermundsenneztsosie2625 Před 3 měsíci

    nicely done. both videos

  • @alexchisholm1373
    @alexchisholm1373 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I don’t really play tarkov anymore (started in 2016) but my thoughts are that this would make more sense if the game was at full release. Also perhaps I haven’t seen the correct info but are the stash expansions permanent? As in do they carry over each wipe? Because this means again this is a temporary injection of cash until they add the next micro transaction and there are only so many things you can monetise until it does become p2w.

  • @DovaG3
    @DovaG3 Před 3 měsíci

    Riloes videos are top tier.

  • @RealLifeVlog
    @RealLifeVlog Před 3 měsíci

    The original video was very well done and I really enjoyed it. I liked the research he did and I love the narration he did during the video.
    I agree with you though at the end I think micro transactions is a good move on BSG's part and personally as long as it is limited to cosmetics and stash space I don't care as it beats paying a monthly price for a pay to play scenario and it helps secure the future of a game we all enjoy.

  • @originalgaming1663
    @originalgaming1663 Před 3 měsíci +3

    How much of this "low flow" is due to A) arena and B) inflation? I do believe it's entirely possible for the no-micro route to still be pulled off. Instead of falling down the cats, stats, and "blue" rabbit hole, you focus on cool new game mechanics similar to the old Battlefield formula. Where this expansion added this faction and their vehicles, that expansion added spec-ops, zip-lines, and grapples etc. Seems a lot more fitting to Tarkov. A hell of a lot cooler than virtual cat-care, boring time-sinks that every other game is doing, and things that make the game easier...

  • @callsignsaint1377
    @callsignsaint1377 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Got the game in 2017 and man I want to hope that BSG isn’t gonna be another Ubisoft or EA but how it’s going it feels like it

  • @sethschexneider
    @sethschexneider Před 3 měsíci +3

    I'm glad to see this video get more publicity. He's a really good upcoming content creator.

  • @umdasu
    @umdasu Před 3 měsíci

    let me ask a few questions. do game Publisher on steam get a discount on server costs, or is that steams part of the deal for the 30% commision? cuz like why didnt BSG put the game up on steam if they arent in it for the money?

  • @hurrsia
    @hurrsia Před 3 měsíci +2

    thats the problem with micro transactions is that it always STARTS with a cat or small things or whatever, but as the money slows from the cat dlc, then the next DLC that comes out will be closer to selling weapons and money.

  • @mr.mustacheninja4809
    @mr.mustacheninja4809 Před 3 měsíci +2

    One thing that i have yet to see anyone bring up is that they also have or had to pay for licensing all the weapons amd attachments. Almost or no other game uses such a wide variation, high detailed, and trademarked arsenal. That isnt done for free.

    • @AlitelWorria
      @AlitelWorria Před 3 měsíci

      like H&K or any ''western based'' company could try to sue a russain company for copyright infringement. I bet I wouldnt do much. I cant find anywhere that they pay for licensing all the weapons. My guess would be they dont care about it and the only reason they dident name example TarCola ''Coca cola'' is becuse before the war these companies operated in russia and acually swayed some power.🤷‍♂

  • @brettlynch2707
    @brettlynch2707 Před 3 měsíci

    watched this the other day, Rilogaming puts out great edits. 15:32 did dude clip in a cameo of his cat lol

  • @guttagaming1023
    @guttagaming1023 Před 2 měsíci

    Very well done 👍

  • @dustinc5478
    @dustinc5478 Před 3 měsíci

    This was relaxing to watch in the bath, thanks.

  • @ChuckNasty961
    @ChuckNasty961 Před 3 měsíci

    Love seeing riloe getting the recognition he deserves!

  • @Mr.Chubbz420_
    @Mr.Chubbz420_ Před 3 měsíci

    Thank you good sir!!

  • @dragondest4
    @dragondest4 Před 3 měsíci +4

    alternate skins for gear would be cool. like realistic color changes for rigs/body armors you can purchase then apply to that piece of gear as a modifier

  • @cashiz721
    @cashiz721 Před 3 měsíci

    Keep up the good content

  • @Guilleexe-hu9ct
    @Guilleexe-hu9ct Před 3 měsíci

    Hi Pestily ! Everything is explained quite well from your point of view. But you have overlooked the part of the original video where he makes an approximate calculation of what BSG spent on the 4 events in which he participated and this is where I think the main controversy is. Nikita invested a lot in the spectacular stands, such as the one in Las Vegas. We are talking about a position that overshadowed those of some AAA companies!!!

    • @andrewxyz24
      @andrewxyz24 Před 3 měsíci +1

      That is an awesome Metro avatar

  • @trued2010
    @trued2010 Před 3 měsíci +1

    My problem with micro transactions for stash space it that it sets a hard/ physical cash value for each slot. RMT'ers (hackers/sellers) will know exactly what they need to make money back on those slots and how much to ensure the're making profit from the base account + the extra slots. Before they had to consider time loss to unlock the rest of the stash space.., now they can stay low till they hit proffit point then start hacking like crazy till they get banned.

  • @mick2055
    @mick2055 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I thought it was fairly obvious that they run the UK incorporated company reported profit very lean and bake a lot of their real profit somewhere it the "Cost of sales" in some way, actually realized in Russia. We don't see the "Cost of sales" broken down in this report to suggest otherwise

  • @nahfammmm354
    @nahfammmm354 Před 3 měsíci

    Arena for me was just meant for practicing fights and mechanics without the risk or the time going back to the stash every time I die. I never thought it would or could be a good standalone competitive e-sports experience.

  • @Fsindu
    @Fsindu Před 3 měsíci +2

    can say, i was never even close to be interested in arena, i couldnt care less even when i own the EoD Edition and i got it included.

    • @lanceroberts7405
      @lanceroberts7405 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Agreed. For me it was like why is this even a thing? The whole point of tarkov and why many people love it is that it’s an extraction shooter. Arena essentially makes it a default fps game like CS or CoD in a way and at least in my case, tarkov was the game that allowed to me step away from all of those and enjoy a good tactical game. Then arena comes out and it feels like a step backward

  • @Match0Man
    @Match0Man Před 3 měsíci

    Last wipe patch and content which brings to the game is amazing, I think there extra space in stash is not P2W more like QOL thing. I would say I would buy even some exclusive clothing tbh thx for vid

  • @Siddwraith
    @Siddwraith Před 3 měsíci +1

    i dont understand why they dont sell merch in a shop in the launcher somewhere. or maybe they do and i just havent seen it

  • @madmike476
    @madmike476 Před 3 měsíci

    Great vid

  • @jensensphotography4570
    @jensensphotography4570 Před 3 měsíci

    Another option is too look to a single player route and not just online. Where they can save money on more servers and such. I stopped playing online and been playing SPT due to the fact I don’t have time to grind. And don’t even have time to play SPT anymore. But they could possibly add the single player as a dlc and add content into there as the future of SP progress. There is definitely ways they can keep afloat

  • @tommyc5740
    @tommyc5740 Před 3 měsíci

    I bought Tarkov in 2020. My first thought after playing it was "how are they going to keep the servers up without a monthly fee". Monthly fees are off the menu due to the original sales, but they could do some sort of parallel wipe with a small fee for entry or rentable private servers.

  • @5hoo142
    @5hoo142 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Once arena is tied to your PMC, it will bring in a shit load of players having the option to make money that way.

    • @MrKingglenn
      @MrKingglenn Před 3 měsíci +1

      lol. Just gonna play arena all day and boost my main to 40 before ever doing a single quest in Tarkov. Sounds legit. Also sounds broken af.

    • @HackbyAlex
      @HackbyAlex Před 3 měsíci

      more pay to win great

  • @ItsJustMeBrett
    @ItsJustMeBrett Před 3 měsíci

    Cycle frontier is a perfect example of a game that freaked out and did crazy stuff just to die anyways.
    I truly believe asking as tarkov sticks to the core game that it was supposed to be from the beginning and make a truly freeroam across all maps then it will succeed. They just need to deliver on what was promised from day 1.

  • @Trixless
    @Trixless Před 3 měsíci +2

    All Im saying is if I could have a case hardened blue gem RPK I would buy it

  • @sidekickstreams
    @sidekickstreams Před 3 měsíci

    I actually don't mind the idea that they sell useful functionality that doesn't directly impact raids. Offline co op. Maybe a raid review tool. A scenario editor (WOULD LOVE THIS). Cosmetics for the hideout. Additional character slots. Maybe immersive settings that make raids HARDER (i.e., an official hardcore mode, or extract determines next raid location)
    That kind of thing is vastly preferable to character skins, ruble purchases, etc. Plus, some of these can be sold per-wipe.

  • @Jalamba_
    @Jalamba_ Před 3 měsíci +1

    Imagine if they introduced MTX like POE. Not over the top animations, obviously something more realistic like the clothing could even partner with big name brands. Then have Hideout cosmetics and even gun skins, that would be more than enough to make this game float for a looooong time IMO.

  • @djannias
    @djannias Před 2 měsíci

    🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
    00:00 *🎬 Overview of the video content*
    - The video discusses the financial report impacting Escape from Tarkov, emphasizing its significance.
    00:55 *💰 Background on Escape from Tarkov's financial stance*
    - BSG initially opposed typical monetization methods, aiming to preserve the integrity of Escape from Tarkov.
    - Financial stability was reinforced by the removal of high-tier game editions, signaling progress towards version 1.0.
    04:12 *📊 Analysis of Battle State Games' financials*
    - Examination of BSG's financial records, publicly available due to its UK-based registration.
    - Revenue and expenses breakdown, highlighting the company's financial status over consecutive years.
    07:13 *💸 Insights into financial strategies and tax considerations*
    - Discussion on how businesses manage profits and losses for tax optimization purposes.
    - Exploring the implications of maintaining near-zero profits for tax-related benefits.
    08:20 *📈 Analysis of 2023 financial projections and market impact*
    - Reviewing the impact of Escape from Tarkov's marketing efforts and the introduction of Escape from Tarkov Arena.
    - Speculation on the success of Arena and its potential influence on BSG's financial stability.
    10:55 *🔍 Examination of Escape from Tarkov's sales trends and external factors*
    - Overview of Escape from Tarkov's sales performance over recent years, considering geopolitical events and game-related controversies.
    - Analysis of the potential impact of Escape from Tarkov Arena's sales on BSG's financial outlook.
    12:19 *🛑 Concerns regarding Battle State Games' financial position and game development*
    - Addressing concerns about BSG's reliance on Escape from Tarkov Arena's success for financial stability.
    - Speculation on the implications of Arena's performance and its potential effects on BSG's future projects.
    13:59 *🖋️ Reflections on the video content and community dynamics*
    - Personal reflections on the challenges of discussing Escape from Tarkov's financial aspects amid community scrutiny.
    - Expressing admiration for the game's creative aspects while acknowledging financial realities and community dynamics.
    15:53 *📈 Financial overview and concerns*
    - Tarkov's server costs estimated at $100 to $300 per month per server, totaling millions annually.
    - Cost of sales increased significantly in 2023 without compensating sales.
    - Discussion on the impact of cheaters repurchasing accounts on Tarkov's funding.
    - Speculation about the financial status of Battlestate Games (BSG) and stakeholder payouts.
    17:03 *🕵️‍♂️ Cheaters funding dilemma*
    - Uncertainty regarding whether cheaters are a significant source of funding for the game.
    - Proposal to reduce cheaters' influence by empowering legitimate players through microtransactions.
    - Consideration of microtransactions as a potential solution to mitigate cheaters' impact on BSG.
    18:12 *💰 Microtransactions and game integrity*
    - Discussion on the potential implementation of microtransactions for cosmetics and quality-of-life items.
    - Emphasis on maintaining the core tone and vision of Escape from Tarkov.
    - Acknowledgment of Nikita's efforts to secure funding for the game's development.
    19:50 *📉 Financial sustainability and future outlook*
    - Reflection on BSG's options: fund the game or let it die.
    - Consideration of the necessity of additional revenue streams for the game's long-term development.
    - Evaluation of BSG's business decisions and potential implications for Escape from Tarkov's future.
    Made with HARPA AI

  • @michaelweaver5218
    @michaelweaver5218 Před 2 měsíci

    Pest makes the BEST reaction videos

  • @adaa12345SixSevenEightNine
    @adaa12345SixSevenEightNine Před 3 měsíci

    I wish arena was even more like CS. I wish instead of preset loadouts there was some customization in them or buying gear preround like CS. As an entry point for Tarkov mechanics where you can run whatever gear you can afford I feel like it would make sense as well.

  • @EmDuB90
    @EmDuB90 Před 3 měsíci

    I think arena is actually a lot of fun, and can get pretty competitive. At least in some the matches I've had, especially when you cap a huge come back in team fight. Sure its a bit clunky at times, but so is main tarkov.

  • @Shadydonut
    @Shadydonut Před 3 měsíci +1

    A little more info for those that didn't want to read the Annual Report:
    Dmitriy Loskutov & Nikita Buianov are owed nearly 5 million Euros each for 2023. In 2022 they paid themselves 3.4 million Euros each. You decide if that's too much money or not.

  • @x101xghost
    @x101xghost Před 3 měsíci

    this video and the financial report are very well made videos. My personal opinion on what this game needs is an anti cheat like Valorant's, not because its hyper competitive, but by all accounts, the popularity of the game skyrockets, then the hoard of cheaters come back, and people get sick of it and move on again. That and BSG is what will kill tarkov. Mixed with server issues and all the slight hiccups in game design/bugs only amplifies the frustration in a game based on life and death decisions that only take a few seconds to make. In addition to that, my only real gripe is the Quest progression and how gating good gear works, so an actual cohesive story line like you mentioned, would probably fix a lot of that. Arena probably needs to give access to better gear faster and implement existing Tarkov areas/favorite hotzones as maps, ie: Underground area of Reserve, Dorms 2/3story, Shop to shop fighting in Interchange, etc. That would give new players a way to learn how to fight in Tarkov CQB easier since it is round based and you have more lives to work with quickly, as well as help learn sections of a map so they dont feel so lost.

  • @AngrodBrohem
    @AngrodBrohem Před 3 měsíci

    Nikita has Archive the Band tshirt. Never expected from him

  • @CarnahanRaul
    @CarnahanRaul Před 3 měsíci

    Where did some of the other maps dissappear to? Terminal is still there but there was like suburbs, town, etc before. Decisions been made to not add these anymore?

    • @unlimitedgames5160
      @unlimitedgames5160 Před 2 měsíci

      those maps have been moved back to be added after 1.0, likely as dlc

  • @MrKingglenn
    @MrKingglenn Před 3 měsíci +1

    I think they will inevitably end up in a subscription based loop. MTX will enable some funding and possibly allow server costs for a short while but MTX isn't guaranteed income and will need constant additions just to keep the money moving. Again its like buying another copy of the game, you buy it once then they are stuck trying to figure out how to get more money to support the game. Subscriptions will 100% guarantee server costs and even allow funding for future projects. With Subs and MTX as a side venture it would easily keep the game going for an indefinite time. I see no other way.

  • @jhokko9222
    @jhokko9222 Před 3 měsíci

    Arena has a lot of potential, while yeah it’s an entirely different experience it still has the amazing gun play (while yeah it has some issues with hit registration and ammo types being wonky sometimes) and movement. It could be something great if new maps, gamemodes and classes being actually customizable were brought in. Also make it so that in match there could be loot to turn in so you could change attachments mid game could be a fun way to change your ability to fight if your not able to properly fight the other team. Just some thoughts, I’d love to see arena grow instead of becoming a failed decision.

    • @MrKingglenn
      @MrKingglenn Před 3 měsíci

      Until there is a way for them to make it so you dont end up with free kits vs. altyns, it will never work. Half the kits have broken armor to start with, and a large portion of the guns use flesh damage bullets making it near impossible to out gun anyone with pen ammo. Half way through Scout class and stuck with broken armor, no helmet, headsets that cant hear anything over the crowd and announcer, and flesh rounds as a 580mp class is far from balanced. Especially when the other classes have perfect armor, helmets, and pen ammo at that tier.

  • @DevilDog3015
    @DevilDog3015 Před 3 měsíci

    Wasn't there supposed to be a "Special box set" that was to be given to the first group of people that got the limited pack is that still going to be sent out once the game drops

  • @DVL_Main
    @DVL_Main Před 3 měsíci

    I've always thought some kind of MTX was going to come along. There was no way they could keep it afloat without them. I've also felt that there was a plethora of ways they could add them in without making it pay to win (anymore than EOD already was).

  • @ghostymigee1398
    @ghostymigee1398 Před 3 měsíci +2

    With all of the money they spent on marketing, I’m wondering whether they could make money selling Tarkov branded merchandise. Imagine being able to buy Killa/Tagilla helmets or an IDEA rig. There could be huge potential there

    • @kayzach4108
      @kayzach4108 Před 3 měsíci

      They actually sell both on their site IIRC

  • @DecaDose
    @DecaDose Před 3 měsíci +2

    My boy Riloe made it 🔥

  • @britishbeef4890
    @britishbeef4890 Před 3 měsíci

    I think once arena links to main it will be more worth it to the regular joe.

  • @bmitch00bm
    @bmitch00bm Před 3 měsíci

    Did anyone else notice they removed the maps Suburbs and Town from this wipe's map select screen, or was that just me? Haven't noticed anyone else even talk about it. I think they just scrapped the idea of making those maps or will just be a DLC or something for the future

  • @m2hmghb
    @m2hmghb Před 3 měsíci

    I bought stash space because it's always handy and I support BSG. It doesn't affect the game at all - just allows more storage space. Honestly it's the most tame and reasonable microtransaction I've seen in gaming in years.

  • @TheGrimmedReaper
    @TheGrimmedReaper Před 3 měsíci +1

    image you fly away at terminal, only to crash down in woods.

  • @iizc123
    @iizc123 Před 3 měsíci

    have to say, it already had p2w tones from EoD kit, try with small "assbox" after you had gamma container

  • @Phillz91
    @Phillz91 Před 3 měsíci

    I work in mortgage lending and was previously a mortgage broker so I deal with a lot of tax returns for big and small entities.
    There are two types of tax returns, the one the Tax office see's and the real ones. So whilst financial over a longer period can be representative of a companies performance, individual yearly returns should be taken with a small grain of salt