I’ve always found that the taller the tyre the better with a spool. Probably more of the bind taken up by the sidewall. But totally agree spool is 100% street worthy.
Hello from Indiana. Back in the late 80's I had a 70 Duster 340 auto and I ran 5:12 gears on a spool , on the street. Lots of fun , stop light to stop light. The main drag was 4 lane and about 3 miles long.
A mini spool is also a good cheap option that's easier to install for those who are making 300whp range. Just buy a solid one like the RTS FORGED MINI SPOOL they are about 200.00 but shouldn't fragment like the cheap cast ones that goes for 20 to 90 bucks
Hello Joe! Ahhh the spool. Here is my take and experience. 67 Mustang Gt S-code original 390 4 speed car. Then.... Built 460 big block Ford with all the good parts internal and external, C-6 reverse valve body. Ford 9" nodular 4:11 gears and full racing spool, 4 link. No power steering, air or power brakes, disc front/drum. 190 skinny Goodyears front 320 60r x15 M/T rear. Problem one: very very hard to steer, the 460 weight does not help. A simple turn or backing out of the driveway was a chore as a simple right or left turn was. Tires chirping, skipping. Pulled the Center section and swapped out the spool for a Yukon Trac-Lok differential, rebuilt rear brakes, hoses and lines while the axles were out. Is now quite streetable, No longer a race car, so I don't need the spool. Want to drop in a 351 Alum Z block and take it to 427 stroker and back to a 4 speed. Did you run a mini spool Joe or a full spool? Thanks for sharing, Cheers from Motown. Let me know if you ever need a parachute, have a nice Deist for you if you get her that fast. :)
I drove a 73 Camaro with a 10 bolt and a mini spool on the street as my daily for 3 years with no problems and a 85 Camaro with a 9 inch and a full spool with no problem. Only way to go in my opinion. My 65 El Camino will have one soon.
I totally appreciate you doing this video as I have a spool in my build with concerns. I’ve just done a few test miles and did not observe anything noteworthy. Thanks again!
Your turning radius will suck and your back tires will be destroyed faster other than that it alright my weekender has a detroit locker and I drive it on the street
@@79tazman I've driven it around the block a few times (getting the bugs out) and it didn't seem too bad. We will see how it goes when I actually put some cruise miles on it.
Mate I had a spool in another diff for 15yrs, built my Dana60 and put an Eaton true-trac and it was the best thing I ever did. Drives like a new car, no “pushing” on corners or uneven surfaces, and acts like a spool as soon as you hit the loud pedal. Spool is so 80’s,there is just no need anymore.
I use a Detroit locker they lock in a straight line but allow for cornering I like them better then a spool I have used them and if you have a 100% strip car then they are great but if you run a street strip car Detroit Lockers in my opinion is the best.
Awesome Joe《☆》It's nice that Dana's have the cover on the back for the occasional inspection👍😁That's the only thing I like about my 7-1/4 other than the Sure grip inside◇¿.😎🎱☮🔊🖖👍
I run a 8.75" in my 1970 Dodge Dart. I have a Shure Grip differential that is set up extremely stiff, darn near a spool in handling. You hear some tire squeal in tight slow corners. The biggest thing is just be careful on wet pavement.
Spool on the street, oh ya! I've built old school Camaros with 9" Ford and a spool and yes, it's really tight turns were chirpy on the inside tire but once up and running it felt fine
The idea that tires make the difference is an interesting one. I would think the spool gets old if you daily drive it, but on a showcar like this I totally get the benefit of track use.
medium speed sweeping turn, a little moisture on the road, wide tires without much grooving, back end passes the front and and you leave the road going backwards.
Only time I feel sketchy about my spool is if I get caught out in the rain , I've had mine in my 68 Satellite for years . My car runs 6.50s / 10.30s on narrowed truck 60 ( factory B-body width ) and it still has the original 4.10 gears in it
Very nice Classic Mopar!!!💪💯..I love em all , No die hard here lol , just a Car Guy that appreciates them all. Now a lil humor...I missed you Cleaning that gasket off 😉 😂. Again Ive got to say , Beautiful Mopar!!
Does a spool only fit in a open diff or can one be put in a limited slip diff thats worn out ? I have a dodge ram 1500 91/4 rear diff that has become a street strip daily but i only put about 10k miles a year .not experienced in this area an maybe if i could take it apart an put spool in save myself some dollars . Love the dart 👍sounds awesome
Sure you can run a spool on the street, as a daily driver too. I even ran a quick change for a couple of weeks on my '64 Barracuda-out of necessity. I seemed to make far more right hand turns then left, I did notice some wear/chunking on the outer tread near the sidewall on those Mohawk Super Mag 50's passenger side tire.
considering a spool on my next gear change, I think I'm going to get a little shorter tire first, I'm running a 27x10.5 now want to get a set of 26 tall and see if that is enough with a 4.10 gear for me
Well there ya Have it, no one could drive a High stall converter on the street, then it was Nope Cant drive a Reverse Manual valve body on the street, ,(,but not with a very tight factory converter,, been done too). Oh no not a Mechanical Roller Camshaft, Q:How often have you had to reset the Valves?. and for a Real Question, if going to a spool why not just use 8 and 3/4"? rear.. Or if you have a Dana why not just a standard limited slip?? Or? does this mean More Horsepower for the future and you want to be ready?
I totally agree on the spool issue... The only time I ever had issues was when I got caught in the rain on a curvy road... Lesson is don't drive your hot rod In the rain...lol. Great Video brother! I will be interested in any et differences between the Dana vs 8 3/4 Andy
I dont think it's so much "can" but "should" you use a spool on the street. You can use anything on the street. It just depends how much maintenance you want to do, aggravation you want to put up with, and how you're going to use the car. As for a spool, I would never recommend one in a daily driver. I dont beleive the guys who say they use them in their daily, because they would have a very difficult time in the rain and snow. Out for a cruise on a nice day? Sure. But I would never run one (mini-spool can do this) with C-clip axles.
You can use a spool on the street but don't think about turning like a car and prepare to destroy your tires around corners other then that you can use a spool on the streets. I have a detroit locker in my 79 Dodge D100 they are better than a spool in my opinion
no need for a diff pan gasket. Just use Permitex Ultra Grey and be done. That's all I do for my Ford 9". Also, I have a 2003 Ram and Dodge doesn't use a trans pan gasket or a diff cover gasket - just the Ultra Grey.
Yeah I get why your using a spool , that is wicked looking - the guts ! So weird seeing no spiders just ring and pinion only . I will be up there next weekend to pick up the 8.75 / LOL . With no clutch pack do you still have friction modifier ?
When I got mine, I had it shipped to UPS(or was it FedEx) freight in Detroit. They called me when it arrived. Shipping was about $150 from Illinois to Detroit, but save on tax as it was shipped out-of-state.
@@SimpsonsSpeedShop yeah my rear lockers stuck on. I lost a good 1/16th of tread just getting home from a trail. Aprox 2 weeks of low use city driving so I can imagine how fast it would chew them up. Out of curiosity why not try a torq auto locker. It's a fairly new and improved version of the lunch box locker.
I’ve always found that the taller the tyre the better with a spool. Probably more of the bind taken up by the sidewall. But totally agree spool is 100% street worthy.
Hello from Indiana. Back in the late 80's I had a 70 Duster 340 auto and I ran 5:12 gears on a spool , on the street. Lots of fun , stop light to stop light. The main drag was 4 lane and about 3 miles long.
A mini spool is also a good cheap option that's easier to install for those who are making 300whp range. Just buy a solid one like the RTS FORGED MINI SPOOL they are about 200.00 but shouldn't fragment like the cheap cast ones that goes for 20 to 90 bucks
Hello Joe! Ahhh the spool. Here is my take and experience. 67 Mustang Gt S-code original 390 4 speed car. Then.... Built 460 big block Ford with all the good parts internal and external, C-6 reverse valve body. Ford 9" nodular 4:11 gears and full racing spool, 4 link. No power steering, air or power brakes, disc front/drum. 190 skinny Goodyears front 320 60r x15 M/T rear. Problem one: very very hard to steer, the 460 weight does not help. A simple turn or backing out of the driveway was a chore as a simple right or left turn was. Tires chirping, skipping. Pulled the Center section and swapped out the spool for a Yukon Trac-Lok differential, rebuilt rear brakes, hoses and lines while the axles were out. Is now quite streetable, No longer a race car, so I don't need the spool. Want to drop in a 351 Alum Z block and take it to 427 stroker and back to a 4 speed. Did you run a mini spool Joe or a full spool? Thanks for sharing, Cheers from Motown. Let me know if you ever need a parachute, have a nice Deist for you if you get her that fast. :)
I drove a 73 Camaro with a 10 bolt and a mini spool on the street as my daily for 3 years with no problems and a 85 Camaro with a 9 inch and a full spool with no problem. Only way to go in my opinion. My 65 El Camino will have one soon.
I totally appreciate you doing this video as I have a spool in my build with concerns. I’ve just done a few test miles and did not observe anything noteworthy. Thanks again!
Right on bro! Thanks for watching
Your turning radius will suck and your back tires will be destroyed faster other than that it alright my weekender has a detroit locker and I drive it on the street
@@79tazman I've driven it around the block a few times (getting the bugs out) and it didn't seem too bad. We will see how it goes when I actually put some cruise miles on it.
My S60 didn't have a gasket just did the first oil change.
If you have an aluminum cover with a machined face then no gasket it required. Thanks for watching
Mate I had a spool in another diff for 15yrs, built my Dana60 and put an Eaton true-trac and it was the best thing I ever did. Drives like a new car, no “pushing” on corners or uneven surfaces, and acts like a spool as soon as you hit the loud pedal.
Spool is so 80’s,there is just no need anymore.
I use a Detroit locker they lock in a straight line but allow for cornering I like them better then a spool I have used them and if you have a 100% strip car then they are great but if you run a street strip car Detroit Lockers in my opinion is the best.
when it comes to budget building they work great
My first Duster… 8-3/4, heavy spool, 35x22-16 on 16x16 . Drove it for 8 months daily . Little sketchy in winter and wet but was fine .
Your Car looks and sounds great . I have been running a mini sport for 15 years and now switched to a full spool and better axles no problems at all.
I Wanted to add that parking sucks with a sport and manual steering
Nice ride. I’m enjoying watching its evolution and trips to the track.
Thanks bro!
Always lots of internet experts out there. Every application and "driver tolerance" is different.
Car sounds great passing by!
Hahha you know it! Don’t worry no more 6 am fire ups. 😬
I run spools in my Jeep and my 4x4 mini truck. It's predictable and solid. I like them in short wheel base vehicles. I daily drive them.
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Ran a mini spool In an V8 S10 for many years No issues at. I was my daily. It was a lot of fun.
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Back in the 80's a local guy had a 69 dart. Same color. It was the baddest ass car on the street. Literally the baddest!
Love these old darts.❤❤❤❤
👍🏻 thanks for watching
Awesome Joe《☆》It's nice that Dana's have the cover on the back for the occasional inspection👍😁That's the only thing I like about my 7-1/4 other than the Sure grip inside◇¿.😎🎱☮🔊🖖👍
I run a 8.75" in my 1970 Dodge Dart. I have a Shure Grip differential that is set up extremely stiff, darn near a spool in handling. You hear some tire squeal in tight slow corners. The biggest thing is just be careful on wet pavement.
I’m running Cal-trac suspension on my GTS , love it 👍👍👍👍👍✅✅✅✅
Nice! I love mine! Thanks for watching
Spool on the street, oh ya!
I've built old school Camaros with 9" Ford and a spool and yes, it's really tight turns were chirpy on the inside tire but once up and running it felt fine
The idea that tires make the difference is an interesting one. I would think the spool gets old if you daily drive it, but on a showcar like this I totally get the benefit of track use.
Big fan of channel watch all your videos...and thats a nice dart been mopar fan since I 15 years old im 58 now ...got a few mopars my self
Right on my man. 👍🏻 thanks for watching
medium speed sweeping turn, a little moisture on the road, wide tires without much grooving, back end passes the front and and you leave the road going backwards.
Only time I feel sketchy about my spool is if I get caught out in the rain , I've had mine in my 68 Satellite for years . My car runs 6.50s / 10.30s on narrowed truck 60 ( factory B-body width ) and it still has the original 4.10 gears in it
Very nice Classic Mopar!!!💪💯..I love em all , No die hard here lol , just a Car Guy that appreciates them all. Now a lil humor...I missed you Cleaning that gasket off 😉 😂. Again Ive got to say , Beautiful Mopar!!
Glad you're happy with it.👍👍 Hope the ETs made it worth the investment. Just a sweet ride for sure ands shows your pride in it.
Can? Yes. Should? No.
Sweet dart!
Thanks bro! Sub for more. Lots of vids on her!
Great video Joe!👍 I like the thumbnail photo.
The guy walking the dog almost got whiplash from all the double takes. LOL
Neck breaker for sure lol
I haven't run a spool but my daily has a locker. Tires wear out quicker
Same here.👍
Just went from a spool to a locker, certainly freed the car up around corners but I still haven't got used to that clicking when I turn.
I run a 4.56 spool in my 63 Sport Fury.
Does a spool only fit in a open diff or can one be put in a limited slip diff thats worn out ? I have a dodge ram 1500 91/4 rear diff that has become a street strip daily but i only put about 10k miles a year .not experienced in this area an maybe if i could take it apart an put spool in save myself some dollars . Love the dart 👍sounds awesome
A spool replaces everything else, you also buy a bolt in mini spool. Just search your rear and see what’s available!
@@SimpsonsSpeedShop ok thank you for the quick response an info i will do some searching cheers 👍
@@DarrensTruckzs good luck on the project bro!
Sure you can run a spool on the street, as a daily driver too. I even ran a quick change for a couple of weeks on my '64 Barracuda-out of necessity.
I seemed to make far more right hand turns then left, I did notice some wear/chunking on the outer tread near the sidewall on those Mohawk Super Mag 50's passenger side tire.
I have driven a car with a spool and it normals chirps a tire while going around corners
Nice work !
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i got a 3.27 open diff on my grand marquis is a mini spool hard to put in the rear end??
Never done a mini but it seems like a bolt in go for it!
considering a spool on my next gear change, I think I'm going to get a little shorter tire first, I'm running a 27x10.5 now want to get a set of 26 tall and see if that is enough with a 4.10 gear for me
Well there ya Have it, no one could drive a High stall converter on the street, then it was Nope Cant drive a Reverse Manual valve body on the street, ,(,but not with a very tight factory converter,, been done too). Oh no not a Mechanical Roller Camshaft, Q:How often have you had to reset the Valves?. and for a Real Question, if going to a spool why not just use 8 and 3/4"? rear.. Or if you have a Dana why not just a standard limited slip?? Or? does this mean More Horsepower for the future and you want to be ready?
This means more horse power and a trans brake in the future! Thanks for watching
I totally agree on the spool issue... The only time I ever had issues was when I got caught in the rain on a curvy road... Lesson is don't drive your hot rod In the rain...lol. Great Video brother! I will be interested in any et differences between the Dana vs 8 3/4
Andy
Right on man you get it. She dosnt she rain, if I can help it. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻Thanks for watching Andy!
@@SimpsonsSpeedShop Hey Joe, you should checkout Andy's channel. He's building a engine for his Ford truck Casper, it's a pretty awesome engine.😎
@@bigbear5510 ya dude been watching. The mixed up boss. Really cool!
I dont think it's so much "can" but "should" you use a spool on the street. You can use anything on the street. It just depends how much maintenance you want to do, aggravation you want to put up with, and how you're going to use the car. As for a spool, I would never recommend one in a daily driver. I dont beleive the guys who say they use them in their daily, because they would have a very difficult time in the rain and snow. Out for a cruise on a nice day? Sure. But I would never run one (mini-spool can do this) with C-clip axles.
I agree
You can use a spool on the street but don't think about turning like a car and prepare to destroy your tires around corners other then that you can use a spool on the streets. I have a detroit locker in my 79 Dodge D100 they are better than a spool in my opinion
Yep but rear tire on muscle cars seams to happen anyway 😉
no need for a diff pan gasket. Just use Permitex Ultra Grey and be done. That's all I do for my Ford 9". Also, I have a 2003 Ram and Dodge doesn't use a trans pan gasket or a diff cover gasket - just the Ultra Grey.
Ya I just don’t trust this stamped steel unit. Thanks for watching
Your wrench going in that clean oil wasn’t nasty to me. I’m guessing you’re not a Machine repairman. My job as one can get you MUCH MORE dirty.
Nope fabricator welder by trade. Aluminum. Keep it clean! Thanks for watching
Yeah I get why your using a spool , that is wicked looking - the guts ! So weird seeing no spiders just ring and pinion only . I will be up there next weekend to pick up the 8.75 / LOL . With no clutch pack do you still have friction modifier ?
Haha thanks bud! Sorry she not for sale, yet.
i'm looking at buying S60 from Cass at Dr. Diff. what process did you take in order to get it to Canada? did you get it shipped right from Cass?
I used a shipping company. Basically sent it to them on us side and they brought it over for me.
When I got mine, I had it shipped to UPS(or was it FedEx) freight in Detroit. They called me when it arrived. Shipping was about $150 from Illinois to Detroit, but save on tax as it was shipped out-of-state.
Thanks I'm gunna throw a chromoly spool in my Jeep it may see some pavement not planning on Daily driving it
f**k it bro ! It's spool time !!
Not recommended
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Could you, sure. However, your tires will wear out so fast its not funny. So, it would not be practical to street a spool.
I wanted to buy new tires anyway. Hahaha thanks for watching
@@SimpsonsSpeedShop yeah my rear lockers stuck on. I lost a good 1/16th of tread just getting home from a trail. Aprox 2 weeks of low use city driving so I can imagine how fast it would chew them up. Out of curiosity why not try a torq auto locker. It's a fairly new and improved version of the lunch box locker.
You cant smell a video....
Tough on tires... 🤔