IS FREE BLACKMAGIC Camera App BETTER than FILMIC PRO?
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- čas přidán 2. 10. 2023
- FILMIC PRO vs BLACKMAGIC CAMERA APP for iphone filmmaking. This is a complete overview of this new app, great for beginners. In this tutorials I will also show the differences between Filmic Pro and Blackmagic Camera app.
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Filmic Pro really killed themselves when they went subscription. An app like this for free is close to a nail in the coffin for them.
Yes, I think that they are not going to be happy that this app is now available
Yep! Stopped using them after that. Blackmagic is gonna eat their lunch now with a free much easier to use product
It’s missing remote control though. With Filmic you can view and control the iPhone from an iPad or another iPhone.
@@FriedChairs Its only v1.0, BMD doesnt mess around, they are known to go big, many thinks will come i bet.
Yes, stopped with Filmic Pro when they reneged.
A subscription model for for phone cameras was always going to be a stretch at current phone technologies. Filmic pro may need to go the freemium model route, with the paid version providing some very compelling value additions. In the meantime congratulations Grant Chetty and team over at Blackmagic design, their philosophy of democratizing creativity soldiers on, and we all are benefitting from it.
Well said, thank you for your comment
I flushed Adobe for the same reason and now have a universal license for Affinity Suite that runs on all my devices including the Mac and iPad. I love what Blackmagic has done.
Even if they went back to just a paid version that allows complete ownership as opposed to paying ransom every month or year, they would still be better off. But it's too late for that. There's a free version out now, that gives not just ownership but is actually free, and is every bit as good and only going to get better.
FINALLY, a good video comparing the two apps! THANK YOU!
Glad it was helpful!
I love your style of teaching/showing. Very clear and concise. Professional!
Thank you very much!
Great review, thanks! It doesn’t do everything, but it does seem to be a great tool for some cases. The killer feature for those quick “grab shots“ on the go to me is that you can lock it to horizontal mode video. Accidental vertical video in a horizontal production seems to happen often enough to be a problem.
Thank you for sharing ourselves. Yes, that feature is quite good.
Hey Zdenka, Yep - another great video with a great pace (maybe a little fast on this one as you had an enormous amount of material to cover) So well scripted, filmed, and edited. I downloaded the Blackmagic camera app and followed along with you during your presentation. I have had Filmic for years but will now switch as I find the Blackmagic user interface so much easier for me. It's nice to have choices. Today I received my Hohem M6 gimble and have retired my other two(based on your earlier review) received my new iPhone 15 Pro Max yesterday and need to stop watching your great review while I am still solvent. With all this new gear and software I will be busy learning the intricacies for a good while. Thanks for your hard work. I should mention that I also love your accent and could listen to you read cookbooks.
Thank you so much for sharing your experience. Some people are pointing out that 15 promax is not fully working with Hoham yet. So if you find it as well, just give them a few weeks they need to catch up as that phone just came out. I’m quite sure they will bring new firmware updates very soon. Enjoy your new gear and thank you so much again for your support
At this point, the apps and cameras are so good, the final product now depends on your creativity.
And this is the comment of the day!!! Absolutely agree with you 100%
You explained everything really really well and I appreciate it thank you so much you’re terrific
I’m glad it was helpful. Enjoy the app.
Your intro mentioned iphones only, but on a whimsy I tried it on my ipad....and so far it works.....GREAT OVERVIEW AND TUTORIAL !!!!!...OCB
Thank you for confirming that it works on iPad… I’m glad you liked the video
Thanks for the video, Zdenka. Greetings from Australia. I recently found your videos. You have a new subscriber.
You are very welcome and many greetings back to you
Thank you and I love the new app for my projects on CZcams. Looking forward to new updated things.
You are so welcome!
That is a very good test and a very good video as well (what is shown, details, description/titles, close-ups etc.).
Thank you very much!
I use DaVinci Resolve and film with my iPhone. The cloud option, where you can upload video clips as you are filming is a game changer and time saver. I hope that Blackmagic will be adding features gradually.
Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts. I am pretty sure they going to develop the app further.
You information delivery is always so clear, detailed and organized. Very thought out. I was hoping you would do a video on the black magic app. Thanks and love your channel.
You are very welcome. I was very curious about the app so I had to do it lol 😂
Great comparison and conclusio! Thnk you!
My pleasure!
Thank you miss for explanation I’m gonna watch one more time and set up my phone. Thank you again.😊
You’re welcome 😊
Díky za video, Zdenko!
Není za co… přeji hezky den
Even for a V.1 it's impressive. I wish there were separate reticles for focus and exposure. The ability to save presets would be nice too along with gimbal compatibility. I do love the BM Cloud link. My workflow is to shoot while traveling (Vlog Motocamping in Vietnam), make selects at night, then auto push to BM cloud while I sleep. Then when I get home, the footage is already safely backed up and in a DaVinci Resolve project I set up prior to leaving and ready to edit. This is my primary app now. FilmicPro has been deleted to force me to get nimble with. all features and settings.
Thank you so much for sharing your experience
I'm curious about using the Divinci Resolve app for this reason as it does look like the workflow is nice.
ayy I'm a Vietnamese :) Hope you have a good time with your motorcamping experience & enjoy your time there! Can't wait to see your vlogs :))
Hi Zdenka! Thank you so much for this video! I really appreciate it! Just got myself the blackmagic app and it’s incredible. Your review is very comprehensive and well structured. One question for you: could you elaborate on colour space please? Would you recommend rec 2020?
You are very welcome. When it comes to colour space, I’m gonna address it an upcoming tutorial as soon as I get my hands on iPhone 15 Pro… give me two or three weeks
@@ZdenkaDarula Thank you for your response and I am in great anticipation of that video!
Zdenka,
Your comparison just showed up in my CZcams suggestions about an hour ago, and before I finished watching, I made my decision: I immediately *cancelled* my FilmicPro subscription, and downloaded the Blackmagic Camera app. Then I finished your review 😊
The few features are going to be missed (like Filmic Remote!), but what BMC *has* will definitely keep me happy!
Thank you for letting me know, Zdenka!
You are very welcome… I don’t think that Filmic Pro is going to be happy this month as a lot of people are going away from them
Great comparison, thank you! Blackmagic app now seems to have presets and focus pull too. HDR still not there it seems.
You are very welcome.. I am sure future updates will bring even more features.
Thank you so much for this. I'm pretty impressed with the BM app! A quick scan through the comments and I'm not seeing something that needs to be said and that is... you are absolutely beautiful.
Thank you so much for your support… don’t be fooled it’s just a make up. In real life, I look completely different. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@ZdenkaDarula I don't mind to be fooled.
Good informative video Zdenka
I’m glad it was helpful
I had already downloaded this app. Was really surprised when I saw it. Haven’t played with it yet. Your review is very helpful. I have the Legacy version of Filmic Pro on my Samsung Note 10+, and was getting ready to buy it on my new IPhone 14 when Filmic went to their subscription model. Just too expensive for me on a yearly basis. For my personal use I can’t justify the price. Excited about Blackmagic’s app. As you said, I can bet they will be adding features to it.
Yes, if you’re using it for personal purposes, then the pricing is definitely high. I do this for living and I only purchased it because it was on sale. Hopefully this app will add more features
Many thanks for this. I have been using FilmicPro for a while but this Black Magic app looks very interesting - especially as my preferred editing solution is their DaVinci Resolve 18.6 on my MAC.
You are very welcome.
your video is very informative and you did explained all feature so easily and very clear. 👏👏👏
Thank you so much for your support
Fabulous video thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
This looks great. The only feature missing for me is the ability to use your iPad as a controller and second screen, like Filmic Remote. If they can release an app that does that, then I’ll be switching over from Filmic Legacy. Thanks for a great video!
You are very welcome and thank you for sharing your thoughts
Great Review. I learned from you that you need an external mic in order to control the audio level. And don't forget to enable "headset mic". I did not notice that yet. That's why audio control was a disappointment for me so far. Still I'd like a limiter for my iphone mic.
Thank you so much for sharing. Enjoy the new app.
Hi. I just received an iPhone 15 Pro Max and what I enjoy the most is being able to just plug my DJI maic receiver directly into the USB C on the iPhone and just start filming - no messing with cables etc. I plugged in the mic receiver and opened Blackmagic Settings and the mic appeared - selected in and could adjust the gain. Yeah, that's an expensive solution but works great.
very good comparison , Zdenka following you since you have started channel good to see you are growing
Thank you so much for sticking around for so long. I’m very happy you’re still enjoying the videos and getting the value.
I think you are the person who has explained this application best so far and you explained it wonderfully, thank you very much. 🥳👍
But there's something I'm curious about: What are the differences between the shooting quality of the Apple stock camera and the "Blackmagic" application? I hope you will prepare such content in the future.
Thank you so much…. Once I get my hands on 15 pro all the tests will run
Thank you for the short overview 🙂. I think for me as a beginner it is for sure the Blackmagic Camera App. Maybe I will consider Filmic sometime in the future, but we will see. And sure, if Filmic Pro would still be a onetime payment, then the chances would be much higher. but for a subscription there need to be enough time spent in the app to justify that.
Great video as usual, thank you.
You are very welcome
You do amazing tutorials, what microphone can i connect to the iphone 14 pro, while usin smooth 5. Thank You
You can connect pretty much any microphone you want. I am not expert when it comes to microphones as I only use one brand and that is Comica
Thank you Zdenka for making this video, I really like the new app even better than the Filmic Pro and it’s made a difference. You’re terrific.
Glad it was helpful! Next week I’ll be posting in depth tutorial on this app… 👍
@@ZdenkaDarula that’s great. I look forward to the next video because you really know how to explain things in a way that people can really understand.
WOWO THANKS YOU FOR SHARING VIDEO❤
You are very welcome
Thanks for this great review.👍👍👍
My pleasure!
What would be the ideal settings for recording a sport demo video for my kid with Black Magic. Any recommendations thank you great video very informative.
I believe you already ask that under friend video… I would do 30fps not 24 as it will be too blurry for sports
@@ZdenkaDarula And ISO, white balance, Aperture and shutter speed? what is the typical settings for outside sports? Thank you
Just downloaded the app as a result of this video I wouldn’t probably ever film for real with my iPhone but definitely makes it a lot better to use. Thank you.
You are very welcome. Give it a try. You might like it. It is always nice to have an option on the phone besides native Camera app. Enjoy.
Interesting video, thanks. I have just installed this on my phone to give it a go and use a Zhiyun Smooth gimbal. I was curious though about the pointer you use in this. Seems useful so could you give the info on it.
The pointer is just screen pan you can buy in any dollar store. I hope this helps.
Hi Zdenka, I noticed that in previous versions of BM app the codec Apple ProRes 4444 was present but in the new updates it disappeared , did it happen to you as well?
I didn’t notice that … I have to check
Excellent review, Zdenka - thank you
Does this app support log recording, and if it does, where can we get the LUTs?
No, it cannot do Log yet
Yes it does support Apple Log if you record in ProRes format.
And Prolost has the LUTs you need.
Excellent review! I'll add one more significant feature that, at least in my opinion, distinguishes Filmic Pro from Black Magic Cam: the Filmic Remote App.
Yes, many people mentioned the remote
The ability to shoot Landscape while phone is mounted vertically is kind of cool. Also the option of enabling regular Vertical mode for tiktok clips. I hope they continue to work on the app and add new features like that DoubleTake. I don't like that FilmicPro is subscription.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts
I was wondering about this as i do alot of photography and videos on iPhone
I think you might like this app… it is free so big bonus right there
Thanks for your time very nice explanation
You are very welcome
Filmic Remote is a useful companion app that lets you control the camera from another iPhone or iPad. That has been very useful for me. Hope Black Magic implements similar remote control.
Yes I agree… some people also pointed it out
Thank you Dear❤
You are very welcome
Do you need to set the setting in native 15 pro max like exposure and iso or do black magic does have have their own setting parameter and won’t affect by camera native setting?
Native camera app, and Blackmagic Cam app are two completely different applications. They don’t work together. so whatever you set up in one is not going to fact the other one at all.. they are completely separate.
I really like that you reply to every comment! I am annoyed when I ask questions and the uploader doesn't answer!
I know. I feel the same. When CZcamsrs don’t respond it makes me feel like they don’t really care
Hi, have you tried using external stereo mics on the Blackmagic app? Will the app record each separately or just record in mono? Great review btw.
Unfortunately, I didn’t not try that yet
@@ZdenkaDarula so far I have not been successful doing it with several types of mics.
You might want to look into the Rode Wireless Pro mics. You get two transmitters and one receiver, and the receiver can send audio from each mic to left and right inputs of the iPhone.
@@RonCoy hi Ron. So I have a few Saramonic mics that work the same but for some reason the app just won’t record stereo. Have you been able to get those rose mics recording stereo with the Blackmagic app? I’m hoping I just have a setting wrong.
Thanks!
You are very welcome
What phone did you use to record this video? I'm about to buy one iPhone 12 PRO and I want to use Applr PRO RES mode, whereas it isn't supported to record on that mode natively.
I used iPhone 14 Pro
awesome video review on both of the apps Zdenka! is it possible to shoot still photos on blackmagic?
I’m glad you liked the video. No, this app is only for video.
@@ZdenkaDarula would be great if you could introduce some manual camera apps for photography ☺️
Very informative,thank you Ma'am 😍😍
You are very welcome
9:29 you can film in prores 422 rec 2020 with the black magic app.
So HDR is possible👍🏻
Yes sort of
Hi there....I want to use this black magic app with my iphone 15 pro max for the times when I can't use my Sony FX30...I like that I can record Pro Res LT to my Samsung SSD...question...if I wanted to use a gimbal like the DJI Osmo Mobile 6 or the Insta 360 Flow...can I use this app? those gimbals have their own apps...I'm not too familiar with gimbals for smartphones...thanks so much
You would be using gimbal to stabilize your footage with app like this. So you can use pretty much any gimbal. You would use gimbal app only if you want other things like motion, time, lapse, or tracking… I highly suggest looking into Hoham isteady m6 this one would allow you to do in this app, motion, time lapse, and also tracking
@@ZdenkaDarula thank you so much...the SSD is 60grms which added to the 15 pro max weight 221grms is over the Osmo mobile 6...almost at the limit of the Insta 360 flow too...hmm..maybe I can use a fast USB -C thumb drive instead...I will look into the Hoham for sure...I just like the compact (and cute?) factor of the Osmo mobile 6 and the flow...thanks so much. If not I will just use the phone on a mini tripod...
Hi thanks for this great video. Not sure but I have not seen option to rotate to front Camera?
Yes, you can select what camera to use
Thank you for that great overview. I have both apps, but right now I am using Black Magic because Filmic Pro does not allow for external recording to an SD drive (necessary for some ProRes 4k) Black Magic app allows you to record externally. Filmic pro better get on board with allowing ProRes external recording ASAP. Also, the addition of a waveform monitor would be super helpful instead of just a histogram.
I hear you. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
I absolutely agree with the need for ssd external drive capability. So if black magic allows that I’m gonna get the app I just wish they made it for an ipad. And I hope saving presets comes ASAP!
@@rowbyrowbythey do allow that.
filmic pro you can disable latency preview while cinematic stabilization, in interface menu :) no lag but have to active every time open app...
Thank you for sharing your thoughts
I’ve been trying this app and love it so much more than filmic. One thing I noticed is that the aspect ratio guides are not saved after filming, so the video is stuck at 16:9. Is there a way to have the aspect rations applied to the video while filming that perhaps I’ve overseen and not noticed?
It’s only a guide the video is recorded 16:9
Yes, it is only a guide as someone else said it’s not applied… you have to change the aspect ratio in the post
I plan to make a sport video demo for my kid, on my iPhone which settings would be the best?
It really depends on the scene… for sports whoever you want to use faster of speed
whats the best "simple" video recording app that lets you select what microphone you are using?
This one…. Sorry I don’t know other simple
Really good no-nonsense comparison, thanks. But you didn't mention BMA's ability to handle log footage, including saves to HEVC (H.265) that isn't available in iPhone native app. IMO this is a headline feature in BMA and a huge differentiator. I'm not sure if Filmic Pro even supports the new ProRes Log capability in iPhone 15 Pro/Pro Max.
Thank you so much for mentioning it. I just received my iPhone 5 Pro yesterday and I haven’t had a chance to do anything better yet so I will definitely do some test when I have time.
I'm an ex Filmic Pro 6 user now on CinemaP3. While I'm a beginner, specifying presets and focus pulls are important to me.
Cinema p3 is also a great app
Nice and helpful review. Shame no preset capability, though hopefully it might be added at some stage. Will give BM a try, since it's free.
Glad it was helpful! Enjoy the app. I am going to be experimenting with it myself as well.
Great vid. My question is I have 2 iPhones, a 15 pro max and an 11. Installed Blackmagic cam on the 15 and Bluetooth + on the 11. The idea is to use the 11 as a monitor when recording myself with the best camera on the 15 when I can’t see the screen. Can’t seem to get Bluetooth + to detect iPhone 15 with Blackmagic cam. Did I miss something? Is this possible? This would be a killer feature to add. Thanks in advance
To be honest, I haven’t tested it, so I can’t answer this. Hopefully somebody will see this comment and will answer. I’m adding it to the list to test though.
Looking forward to your findings. Not seen anything on CZcams or elsewhere so far sadly.
I've used Filmic Pro for about five years, but the Blackmagic app looks interesting and I will give it a try. Thanks for sharing.
You are very welcome
Thanks for your sharing.
You are very welcome
Simple question can you take a still photo with the black magic camera app for iphone mine only does video if i cant take a photo with it its usless to me
It is only for video…. Not for photography
I lost faith with Filmic Pro when they changed the pricing structure so I have been hunting for an alternative and the Blackmagic Camera app may be it especially as I as also moving from Lumafusion to Davinci Resolve. Would it be easier to colour edit Blackmagic footage in Davinci Resolve with colour managemnet?
I think it would be easier to colour the files or worked with the files in DaVinci resolve … it is made by the same company, so I’m assuming they did some integration there
I have filmic pro and like it I will try the black magic app thanks for sharing. Best wishes Graham
You are very welcome. Enjoy
Great video, and you are right Blackmagic will add new features, focus pull is already abailable.
Thank you very much for your support. Yes I have noticed the pull focus there
I love shooting in LOG3 in Filmic Pro. Waiting for Blackmagic to include
Hopefully one day
Ahoj! I just tried it on an older 4th gen iPad pro, and it really surprised me. Using this app in combination with the *free* Davinci Resolve video editing app just made my iPad in to my new portable recording setup. On a newer iPhone or iPad, one could capture in ProRes RAW to an internal or external SSD really taking it to the next level. My opinion is that even of Filmic Pro had not gone to a subscription model, BlackMagic Design has a reputation of being not just a solid company, but one that releases a lot of updates on a regular basis and always comes out with something exciting. They'll eventually catch-up and pass Filmic in features and performance just like they did with Adobe's Premiere Pro and Final Cut NLEs.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts …yes, this is a great company
Hi and thank you great video, but want to know the touch pen you used thank you
You are very welcome. Here is a link where explained where I bought it: czcams.com/video/PkUZQ5y3nw0/video.htmlsi=4dLUTOQGEwqRBUSh
@@ZdenkaDarula thank you
Could you please make a video on how to shoot real estate videos with gimbal
Noted… adding it to the list
When recording something and switching cameras during the recording on my iPhone 13 Pro, I've noticed that the Front camera footage is right-side up but the rear camera footage is upside down. But, it appears right-side up in the app while filming. 🤷🏻
That is interesting. Thank you for sharing.
When I film using my iphone 13, when I import the video into Da Vinci resolve the color is washed out and requires manual color adjustment. I wonder if the same thing would happen if I used the BlackMagic app.
The same thing is happening if I bring the footage to Adobe premier pro. I have to test it with the black magic, but this is a great point.
Great review. App looks more intuitive than FP. I see LUTs are available to import. But what about filming in Log? FP has that as a paid option.
Yes, so far now log in this one
@@ZdenkaDarula 8 bit or 10 with rec 2020?
Filmic Pro still has the edge but both apps are amazing. Thanks for your input.
You are very welcome and thank you for sharing your thoughts
Very inforative review...as always, time for a change to Blackmagic 🙂
Enjoy the new app
Blackmagic all the way! I think your correct, blackmagic will be adding more options soon! Great review Zdenka as always! Thank You!
You are very welcome
For me it makes jittering on Hohem M6 (the stabilisation is off) using Iphone 12 max pro, other apps do perform flawlessly, I might have missed some option to tick but that's how it is.
That is interesting. Thank you for sharing this. I’m gonna test it out myself with 15 pro.
A game changer would be a camera that you can mount your phone to with a USB-C connection that allows the phone to act as the screen and UI for the camera. A compact, medium range zoom camera with a housing to fit smart phones straight onto the USB-C port. The phone could act as the brain and the hardware could house all of the camera components
Thank you for sharing your thoughts
Filmic Pro Remote control is the main feature I use that Blackmagic doesn't have. As I need to record myself, I use an iPad as a monitor and remote control. It saves A LOT of time to be able to control everything and see myself in a big screen.
Also, there is no option in Blackmagic to choose from Global Tone Mapping or Local Tone Mapping. It is (I guess) by default at local tone mapping (which is what the native camera app uses). I prefer to use global tone mapping as it gives a look closer to what I want most part of the times, not overprocessing darker or brighter areas.
Thank you so much for sharing and explaining what do you like. I can see that you’re using the app for more serious filming…. Best wishes
You can get HDR in Blackmagic Camera App. You have to shoot in ProRes and Apple Log though. I have no problem with that, as I’d much rather use ProRes and Apple Log to edit with and color correct than h.265 or h.264.
Thank you for pointing it out
Hey Zdenka, Nice detailed information. Can you please similar video on Free Android apps.
Thank you for your support. Yes, such video is planned to do in near future.
does it have a remote control app?
No sorry
Filmic Pro jsem opustil po tom co se mi z placené apky stala apka s předplatným. Drobátko podraz na lidi. Takže jsem rád za free Blackmagic. Děláš Zdenko super vyčerpávající videa. :)
Je to tak taky jsem byla dost zklamaná z toho FiLMiC Pro. Tady ta aplikace vypadá dobře a zdá se že se pořád zlepšuje
Is there a remote app for this, to control the Blackmagic app/phone from another device, like an iPad?
I believe no
I purchased Filmic Pro a while ago (before subscription) and still like the app but will only use the Legacy version. I don’t use it enough to justify paying a subscription fee. I did install the Blackmagic Camera app and also use Davinci Resolve for editing but don’t plan on using Bm cloud. I also agree that it’s highly BM will be adding features in the future as users provide feedback…
That is how I look at it myself
Totally agree. I enjoy legacy and for my needs it's good. Feature set in Filmic is great though Blackmagic interate well
Legacy app doesn’t work anymore or at least for me it doesn’t. Blackmagic for the win.
Ahoj Zdenko 🙂Thank you for your video. I am using Filmic Pro Legacy since I dont like subscrption model. Blackmagic camera app look great.
Ahoj…, you are very welcome. I agreed that the new app looks good.
When recording 60fps for slowmo but not having 120 shutter speed would that be a problem?
It might be choppy
Diky za video. Mam obe dve appky a kazda ma neco. S BM teprve zacinam.
Děkuji mockrát za sdílení
I don't like a subscription model, and as I am not using filming apps professionally (just casual use and experimentation for learning), I am sticking to the Legacy version of Filmic (for which I paid the full price purchasing it some time ago). Unfortunately I cannot try this BlackMagic app (I do use Davinci Resolve sometimes) as I am on Android right now, but I appreciate your videos as they are really informative and in the sweet spot for both professionals and amateurs like me. Thanks!
You are very welcome. I will be looking into apps for android soon.
I stuck with the legacy app as well, since I had purchased it before. I don't see the point for a subscription since even the native camera for android (especially Samsung ) has improved a lot.
Well, I refuse to pay the Filmic subscription model, so i will try this BM app!
Enjoy!
Amazing, love it. Filmic pro never was fine for me.
Thank you for sharing
Thanks
You are very welcome
Great overview Zdenka! I did not see an option for image flipping for use with a Depth of Field adapter, like the Beastgrip DoF. That is what originally led me to Filmic Pro. I still like to use 35mm lenses to get true DoF for some shots or talking head / interviews.
Thank you for sharing.. you are the only one who mentioned DOF