How Viable is Solo Play vs Coop Gameplay in Endless Dungeon?

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  • čas přidán 28. 06. 2024
  • Is Solo Play Viable in Endless Dungeon? In this video I'll compare Solo to Coop Gameplay and share my experience on if this game is worth it for Solo Players or not!
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    00:00 - Endless Dungeon Coop vs Solo
    00:32 - Basics
    01:18 - Coop
    03:46 - Solo
    06:32 - Outro
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Komentáře • 63

  • @user-gf1ce4td9l
    @user-gf1ce4td9l Před 8 měsíci +25

    Nice the fact that you can have AI helpers has made me consider this more

  • @HDHaZmY
    @HDHaZmY  Před 8 měsíci +1

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  • @facehugger8995
    @facehugger8995 Před 8 měsíci +6

    i feel like its the sort of game you won't play with randoms anyway but with mates over discord

  • @roslolian11
    @roslolian11 Před 8 měsíci +9

    I appreciate the fact that you have AI helpers, I wish more games implement this feature cuz when I play games like Borderlands, Diablo or Hell Divers I always feel like I'm missing out playing solo or I'm forced to use specific characters that don't need teammates.

    • @andykunz1996
      @andykunz1996 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Diablo or borderlands are solo nice but helldivers with bots would be nice

  • @HOOD2DJANGO
    @HOOD2DJANGO Před 8 měsíci +3

    I have no choice my internet is trash gotta play solo happy they have it

  • @genopurple
    @genopurple Před 8 měsíci +13

    It kills me that there is no local co-op. I want to play with my girlfriend and I don't think any of my friends would be interested in this game.

  • @TellerOfTheTales
    @TellerOfTheTales Před 8 měsíci

    I've played this game both in solo and with a friend. So far, I've actually had more success in solo runs than with the friend.
    I do think a part of that is that I have a full squad of three in Solo, versus just the two of us in Co-Op, but I also just find it can be easier to make snap decisions when playing solo. Maybe when another friend joins and we can try running with the full squad with people at all the controls that opinion may change though.
    Side Note: That's a cool af avatar you have.

  • @leeleelomomass
    @leeleelomomass Před 8 měsíci +4

    As for online coop with the random, Im worrying someone will join in mid-game, then wasting all the resources or opening all doors that quit.

    • @HDHaZmY
      @HDHaZmY  Před 8 měsíci +7

      That can't happen fortunately - matchmaking is for lobbies specifically. One the game starts it's locked

  • @deadthem
    @deadthem Před 4 měsíci +1

    I haven't been able to find a single active coop game once. Seems like nobody is playing this online 😕

  • @louvellyn
    @louvellyn Před 8 měsíci +11

    The AI has definitely gotten a lot better since the opendevs lol! But it's still a bit frustrating that they just *won't* shove turrets at all, ever. I'm not sure they even shove monsters either, but turrets at least is dumb: they don't upgrade them, and they WILL let them die even though they're standing right next to it and could keep it alive. Plus, it makes any build that uses "shove" triggers for bonuses or effects, virtually useless if you're playing solo. My only gripe with it at this point tbh, and it's way less an issue for me than the dread of multiplayer "what sort of teammate will you get this time" surprise. :'-D

    • @HDHaZmY
      @HDHaZmY  Před 8 měsíci +4

      I feel shoving would make the AI straight up OP honestly - so I don't think they should implement that.

    • @louvellyn
      @louvellyn Před 8 měsíci +1

      I thought they could make this one of the difficulty levels differences, or maybe put a hard limit on how they do it. But not at all is definitely frustrating, even if you're right. IMO it also limits who you can take with you as AI (if you don't plan on micro-managing) because some characters are def underused without shove.

  • @P1EX
    @P1EX Před 8 měsíci +5

    My question is do the AI bots have all your meta progressions and customizations or are they vanilla standard versions of the heroes

    • @HDHaZmY
      @HDHaZmY  Před 8 měsíci +6

      They are your full characters you unlock and can control - except that when you control your other character, they are taken over by AI.
      So yes, you have everything.

    • @P1EX
      @P1EX Před 8 měsíci

      @@HDHaZmYawesome thanks for the reply

  • @Jameston
    @Jameston Před 8 měsíci +3

    So wait, there is no text chat, only optional voice chat? I do worry about cooperation between randoms, wonder how things will pan out with firsthand experience here soon

    • @HDHaZmY
      @HDHaZmY  Před 8 měsíci +2

      There is a Ping System with basic commands but unfortunately no text chat indeed.

    • @Xbot4Life
      @Xbot4Life Před 8 měsíci

      @@HDHaZmY no text chat...aww man, that means no racism and flaming!

  • @TheElfiestElf
    @TheElfiestElf Před 8 měsíci +4

    Me over here about to have an opinion on a game I haven't played because I'm confuaing Endless Dungeon with Dungeon of the Endless.

    • @HDHaZmY
      @HDHaZmY  Před 8 měsíci +4

      As someone who is currently playing Dungeon of the Endless every day with my buddy as prep - it's very similar apart from the Dust Mechanics and my only criticism in comparison is the lack of difficulty

    • @TheElfiestElf
      @TheElfiestElf Před 8 měsíci

      @HDHaZmY good to hear; been a while since I messed with a twin stick shooter; thanks for sharing. :)

    • @louvellyn
      @louvellyn Před 8 měsíci

      There will be multiple difficulty modes in ED, although i don't know if it's going to be available from release day or a later update. But they've made 4 modes, from Friendly to Hard, with both differences in monster difficulty, and resources gained per door. Definitely adds a challenge (on top of the cocktails, which have been rewritten to make it more clear they're difficulty challenges)!

    • @markadams5009
      @markadams5009 Před 8 měsíci

      Can anyone tell me if the difficulty mode settings are already on the console versions of the game? Specifically I'm interested in knowing if I get this for my PS5 is there a FRIENDLY difficulty setting that I can select? I would probably be playing solo at least at first and I'd like to start on the easiest setting. I hear this game is better with friends and it can get fairly hard at least later on so I'm much more likely to get it if there is a FRIENDLY setting. Thanks.

    • @louvellyn
      @louvellyn Před 8 měsíci +1

      Yes, I'm sorry to say it is NOT. It's definitely coming, but the launch version on console is a few weeks behind the PC version (it takes longer to validate patches) and there's several things that were just recently introduced and haven't been ported yet: the difficulties, the charged weapons auto-charging & firing when you maintain the trigger pressed, and the 3-players solo mode no longer augmenting the difficulty of the run. If these are essential to you, you should wait a bit more before playing. There's also a few bugs on console, not affecting everyone but some really frustrating (like a game crash / hard reset of the conole causing a wipe of your save data... ^^; ) and it will take a few more days to fix, especially since they can't get the amount of data PC users can provide from their save/temp files & player logs...

  • @DarkbblueIntoDepth
    @DarkbblueIntoDepth Před 7 měsíci

    AI can perfectly serve as another kind of turrets for me. I just put them at the usual place where I build turrets as defense.

  • @karolrokowski7038
    @karolrokowski7038 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I hear you are playing with controller - is playing mouse+keyboard viable option ?

    • @HDHaZmY
      @HDHaZmY  Před 8 měsíci +1

      Yeah it is totally!

    • @louvellyn
      @louvellyn Před 8 měsíci +1

      As a KBM player who rarely ever touch my controller, i tried it a bit because "twin-stick shooter" so i thought maybe it would be better for once.... and it was *horrendous* lmao. The keyboard is so much more NATURAL and comfortable! %D

  • @user-jp5hb5no3s
    @user-jp5hb5no3s Před 8 měsíci

    Is it possible to play co-op only online or can I play with my friend on the same couch?

    • @HDHaZmY
      @HDHaZmY  Před 8 měsíci +1

      It is Online Only I think!

    • @moali68
      @moali68 Před 8 měsíci

      It is supposed to also have couch co-op as well from what I have read.

  • @andykunz1996
    @andykunz1996 Před 8 měsíci +1

    The game is solo with 2 bots easy but if you play coop with 1 friend the game is harder

  • @nfl1919ify
    @nfl1919ify Před 8 měsíci

    Can you play coop for 1 friend and have an AI as a 3rd player??

    • @louvellyn
      @louvellyn Před 8 měsíci

      No, but you can play coop with just 2 people and not 3, as in solo.

  • @m1presents
    @m1presents Před 8 měsíci +1

    Anyone know if you can play on the same console with two different online accounts? Or do you need two separate systems?

    • @timemage88x13
      @timemage88x13 Před 8 měsíci

      You mean split screen.

    • @m1presents
      @m1presents Před 8 měsíci

      @@timemage88x13 yes but with two different online accounts both playing online at the same time

    • @m1presents
      @m1presents Před 8 měsíci

      On one console

    • @m1presents
      @m1presents Před 8 měsíci

      On one console

  • @RonaldTheGreat01
    @RonaldTheGreat01 Před 8 měsíci

    how do u make the ai stop following you? for solo play

    • @HDHaZmY
      @HDHaZmY  Před 8 měsíci

      I am not sure what's on PC but RB on Controller opens the communication wheel!

    • @TellerOfTheTales
      @TellerOfTheTales Před 8 měsíci +1

      Spacebar opens the communication wheel on PC, which will allow you to tell either or both of your companions to follow/stop following. It can also be used to tell the Crystal Bot to follow your character.

  • @Topkje
    @Topkje Před 8 měsíci

    has crossplay?

  • @manuzitz
    @manuzitz Před 8 měsíci

    wait someone told me that co-op has NOT a shared progression right now.. true false? thx alot

    • @HDHaZmY
      @HDHaZmY  Před 8 měsíci +2

      It is 90% shared - I have a video on it - make your own decision : czcams.com/video/kzVYS2qy-BI/video.html

    • @manuzitz
      @manuzitz Před 8 měsíci

      ah jeah i watched it right now :) thx alot awesome videos!

  • @blazenfate
    @blazenfate Před 8 měsíci

    This may surprise you, but not everyone wants shared story progression. I like to use co-op in games as a way of scouting ahead. To watch how the player choices affect them and their story before I decide in my story.

  • @codiwithani9484
    @codiwithani9484 Před 8 měsíci

    you cant even co op between series x and one x...already requested refund.

    • @louvellyn
      @louvellyn Před 8 měsíci +1

      Crossgen play is coming very soon, they just didn't have it quite ready on time for the release version.

    • @moali68
      @moali68 Před 8 měsíci

      @@louvellyn Crossgen play should be quite nice, it would open up the pool of players considerably.
      Although quite a bit of coding would be required to get it right, not sure how much smaller game studios would be willing to invest into such an effort.

  • @Sidewinder84x
    @Sidewinder84x Před 8 měsíci

    I was pretty excited for this game, but the DRM, paid headstart, missing text chat(and push to talk) make me realize, its made for consoles. Not a big deal, if they didn't snub their current audience in the process.

    • @louvellyn
      @louvellyn Před 8 měsíci +2

      It's not really "made for consoles" at all, on the contrary PC players currently have a much better experience because they can fix issues very fast and update whenever. Also for the "headstart", it would matter if there was a leaderboard or some competition like that, but there isn't. Once you've unlocked the places & heroes (which is relatively easy if you're not playing on Hard) you're not going to be lagging behind folks who did that 2 days before you. There might be a skill difference with people who played throughout development, but that's not *paid* headstart so it's very different, they're the folks who helped the devs finish the game...

    • @jamalstar4243
      @jamalstar4243 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@louvellynnicely said.