I never realized that Neil's truck was "always" there at the time of the explosion.... so when the (inverted) Blue Team is landing Neil would have seen the truck there and known he had to use it at some point. Wow.
they dont want camera on chopper to see camera on jeep below therefore they kept it below jeep you can see it in scene above and below angle because they wanted same smoke to come out in both angle what a movie its mind blending oscar is nothing for nolan
@@CaptainBones222 And then, when he was driving up the hill going to the hole, he saw his past self up front "un-shooting" at him. So he realized he was the one driving the humvee in the inverted future.
@@viktorwong9069 he is an expert lock picker. He will go again to a nearest turnstile and get himself inverted where he wont seee himself reverse exit bc everyone in the town now knows neil has to die
This perspective makes thing much more clear visually as to what is exactly is going on and helped me make sense of the timelines much more now that I have a visual reference. I already understood everything before, but it was just harder to process without being able to actually see it all from his perspective. Thanks man, very well done!
thanks for these re-edits... they really help understand the movie... and reveal how ingenious Tenet is... the more you study it, the more amazing it gets
There’s a theory that if people invert themselves they become temporarily immortal through the laws of inversion until their timeline catches up to their moment of death.
@@jackpickering2537 i think there's a story about that, but slightly different. a machine can read out your date and cause of death, so certain people with convenient causes of death go out on what would otherwise be suicide missions that they're guaranteed to survive. but here, if you see your own dead body and know what part of your timeline you will die in, you can essentially become immortal.
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I never got why Neil decided to use the Stalsk 12 turnstile. The whole point of Blue team was get info on the whole battle. Why didn’t Neil just observe Volkov reverse laying the trip wire, and then continue with the mission, get back to base, and inform red team/Splinter Unit that there would be a trip wire at the entrance so they can jump over it or defuse it? Can anyone explain?
I'm not quite sure myself but I think because both teams started the mission simultaneously the inverted team can really only inform them of the situation in real time. With real time being their synchronized time. The only way the inverted team would be able to debrief them is if they had already performed the operation in a normal flow state before the red team and then invert back to the past. Only then would they have the hindsight to debrief them of the whole situation but in this case they can't because both teams were acting simultaneously. As for Neil using the turnstile I don't know, can't quite wrap my head around it. He could've still drove a car to the exit hole while being inverted but because he's going back in time, the protagonist would've been back on the helicopter to start the mission by the time he got to the exit hole? So he chose to turn himself forward so that he could meet at the protagonist's destination? I don't know man, my head hurts lol
That's right bro...he could have done that but he is the one who believe in this sentence "What's happened, happened."So instead of inform them he chose to save them.
Because his the only one who can open the door for the protagonists. His stuck in a constant loop as he plays a vital role on making sure that door gets opened and taking the bullet
What you're suggesting would work, I think. Blue Team would finish the mission, debrief together, and compile a detailed report for Red Team that would contain all this info, then reinvert back to normal time. I think the net effect would/should have been, we see Neil notice Red Team reverse-unblocking the entrance, then (like in the movie) Volkov reverse-arming the doorway bomb, then Volkov reverse walks away.
@@amurizon But what's happened's happened. The blue team go backwards through the battle and everything they witness is exactly how it will ever be. It's not like they go backwards through the battle, debrief the red team before it happens, and now the red team can change those events. I think the blue team travels backwards through the battle and everything they're witnessing is based on the reality that the red team has already received the debriefing from them. From the red teams perspective they've already had the debriefing from the blue team. So technically whatever the blue team witnesses is the result of the debriefing that from their perspective they haven't given yet. The blue team arrive with the battle already won, they simply just need to play their part. With Tenet you know that nothing you're witnessing can actually be changed, but sometimes the reality you've witnessed makes you aware of certain choices you need to make, or will make. Like Neil. What if his helicopter crashed at the end so he couldn't pick the lock? Well we know he will always get to that lock, it's happened already, no changing it. He says the same when the Protagonist asks why he didn't tell him he was fighting himself. Neil sees the future protagonist after ripping his helmet off and so knows that everything is fine and he won't accidentally shoot himself, because Neil just saw the future version alive and healthy. Everything they do will at least allow the protagonist to be alive at that point, Neil knows that can't be changed.
Yeah, this makes clear again, there were two Neils beyond midway (after inversion in the turnstile). When "inverted Neil" arrives he sees the explosion, "normal Neil" at this exact moment saves Yves and TP by pulling them out of the cavern.
Imagine living in Stalsk-12: Mom: That's it, go play videogames now because i say it! Kid: *leaves his homework done* Kid: *does his homework* Mom: when you finish your homework! Kid: can i please play videogames? D:
Only question I have is after he pulls Ives and TP out of the hole, he has to invert again and go back to take the bullet for TP right...so my question is how did he get inside the tunnel if the entrance is blocked by the rocks from the trip wire detonation that Sator’s henchman made? Can anyone explain? Is there something I’m missing??
I think he got in before the entrance was blocked and he has to save the protagonist that why he placed himself right before the protagonist so that he can take the bullet and that's why he locked the door so that the protagonist can't just rush to that guy as he(protagonist) can get killed by the bullet
@@ezramotz1995 bro I've another question why the protagonist and Neil can't use the turnstile in Tallinn for reverting back instead they chose to use the one in the Freeport, I know Ives said them that they gained control of theachine minutes ago but what does that mean? Can u explain
@@devashishjoshi1937 it means, they wouldn’t have time to use the turnstile, giving Sator and his man had full control of the machine and the event that just taken place.
@@devashishjoshi1937 yes I didn’t understand at first either but it makes sense when you get it. They need to invert (go backwards into the past) to heal Kat’s wounds. So if they all were to invert using this turnstile (which they do I believe, which is fine because they leave right after they use it) they would need to revert again back to normal after a few days because that’s what they need to do to heal Kat’s wounds. So if they only gained control of this machine at this moment in time in the present, they wouldn’t be able to use it again after three days of moving backwards because before this moment when Ives and his team took it over, it belonged to Sator/Sator had control over it. So that’s why they need to find another turnstile in the past, and the only other one they knew of in the past was the one at Freeport, which works perfectly because their past versions were already there three days ago to cause a diversion, so they would be able to slip in unseen and use it really quickly without anyone (besides maybe their past selves) noticing. Hope I explained it fine and hope this helps!
I don't know about the digital timer turning red, but the entropy of the watch reverted back to the normal flow of time when he entered the turnstile. Perhaps the color of the digital indicator changes based on the watches entropy.
@@stonemedia8901 interesting, I wouldn’t doubt that, I mean they were special watches they got specifically for this temporal pincer operation weren’t they? At least that’s what I’m assuming, but it makes sense.
Blue and red are two different Sides of the same spectrum. They are the same frequency but going in the opposite direction of each other. With this knowledge my thought would be: going forwards it appears red because you see it in the normal time flow but going inverted it’s blue because the color frequency appears backwards to you.
New alpha reality entails only to the opera siege backwards storyline so beginning ending new reality forming / a pardoxal loop that we witness linear through the movie
Neil is always wearing blue in this scene because he's meant to be going backwards. But there are two versions of him because he goes through a turnstile again causing himself to move forward. So this edit is showing what it's like with time moving forward, hence why one Neil is moving backwards, he's the one that started the mission inverted but the film showed it from his POV so it appeared he was moving forward. This edit is to show you how they line up in real time and not from both of their perspectives like the film did. Hope this makes sense.
I never realized that Neil's truck was "always" there at the time of the explosion.... so when the (inverted) Blue Team is landing Neil would have seen the truck there and known he had to use it at some point. Wow.
And he was literally shooting at himself
they dont want camera on chopper to see camera on jeep below
therefore they kept it below jeep
you can see it in scene above and below angle
because they wanted same smoke to come out in both angle
what a movie its mind blending
oscar is nothing for nolan
@@rixen8226 Which means he didn't know it was him on the truck, he only knew when he got on it
@@CaptainBones222 yess
@@CaptainBones222 And then, when he was driving up the hill going to the hole, he saw his past self up front "un-shooting" at him. So he realized he was the one driving the humvee in the inverted future.
There is a 3rd Neil who opened the gate and sacrificed.
No
@@DeathbySkullfxxx Yes, yes there is.
same question, how did he open the tunnel
@@viktorwong9069 he is an expert lock picker. He will go again to a nearest turnstile and get himself inverted where he wont seee himself reverse exit bc everyone in the town now knows neil has to die
@@viktorwong9069 It was never explained but there's a theory that blue team cleared the rubble blocking the entrance.
This is the most brilliant movie I have ever seen. Been watching movies for 40 years. Hands down most mind bending flick ever.
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
This never gets less confusing
Haha. Still gets more and more mind blowing though 🤯🔵🔴🔄⌚️
Let's say: a little bit less confusing :-)
Just remember forward entropic Wind always wins and it makes since.
This perspective makes thing much more clear visually as to what is exactly is going on and helped me make sense of the timelines much more now that I have a visual reference. I already understood everything before, but it was just harder to process without being able to actually see it all from his perspective. Thanks man, very well done!
Yes! Same
thanks for these re-edits... they really help understand the movie... and reveal how ingenious Tenet is... the more you study it, the more amazing it gets
0:28 you can see Neil running at the right.
jeez I never saw that before, good catch
Woah! The attention to detail!
This is film is way ahead of it's time.
If someone dies going backwards, that means in Normal time, The person is dead, then comes alive
There’s a theory that if people invert themselves they become temporarily immortal through the laws of inversion until their timeline catches up to their moment of death.
@@jackpickering2537 i think there's a story about that, but slightly different. a machine can read out your date and cause of death, so certain people with convenient causes of death go out on what would otherwise be suicide missions that they're guaranteed to survive. but here, if you see your own dead body and know what part of your timeline you will die in, you can essentially become immortal.
Neil is not dead, He's evolving just backward.
lol
I cried...
I don't know if anyone told you this.
But I've been getting your videos from YT reco since yesterday.. been watching them all.. subscribed right away.. and God knows I don't be doing that usually...
Formidable job, you doing there !!
I loved tenet so much, favourite movie in ages,
I never got why Neil decided to use the Stalsk 12 turnstile. The whole point of Blue team was get info on the whole battle. Why didn’t Neil just observe Volkov reverse laying the trip wire, and then continue with the mission, get back to base, and inform red team/Splinter Unit that there would be a trip wire at the entrance so they can jump over it or defuse it?
Can anyone explain?
I'm not quite sure myself but I think because both teams started the mission simultaneously the inverted team can really only inform them of the situation in real time. With real time being their synchronized time. The only way the inverted team would be able to debrief them is if they had already performed the operation in a normal flow state before the red team and then invert back to the past. Only then would they have the hindsight to debrief them of the whole situation but in this case they can't because both teams were acting simultaneously. As for Neil using the turnstile I don't know, can't quite wrap my head around it. He could've still drove a car to the exit hole while being inverted but because he's going back in time, the protagonist would've been back on the helicopter to start the mission by the time he got to the exit hole? So he chose to turn himself forward so that he could meet at the protagonist's destination? I don't know man, my head hurts lol
That's right bro...he could have done that but he is the one who believe in this sentence "What's happened, happened."So instead of inform them he chose to save them.
Because his the only one who can open the door for the protagonists. His stuck in a constant loop as he plays a vital role on making sure that door gets opened and taking the bullet
What you're suggesting would work, I think. Blue Team would finish the mission, debrief together, and compile a detailed report for Red Team that would contain all this info, then reinvert back to normal time. I think the net effect would/should have been, we see Neil notice Red Team reverse-unblocking the entrance, then (like in the movie) Volkov reverse-arming the doorway bomb, then Volkov reverse walks away.
@@amurizon But what's happened's happened. The blue team go backwards through the battle and everything they witness is exactly how it will ever be. It's not like they go backwards through the battle, debrief the red team before it happens, and now the red team can change those events. I think the blue team travels backwards through the battle and everything they're witnessing is based on the reality that the red team has already received the debriefing from them. From the red teams perspective they've already had the debriefing from the blue team. So technically whatever the blue team witnesses is the result of the debriefing that from their perspective they haven't given yet. The blue team arrive with the battle already won, they simply just need to play their part.
With Tenet you know that nothing you're witnessing can actually be changed, but sometimes the reality you've witnessed makes you aware of certain choices you need to make, or will make. Like Neil. What if his helicopter crashed at the end so he couldn't pick the lock? Well we know he will always get to that lock, it's happened already, no changing it. He says the same when the Protagonist asks why he didn't tell him he was fighting himself. Neil sees the future protagonist after ripping his helmet off and so knows that everything is fine and he won't accidentally shoot himself, because Neil just saw the future version alive and healthy. Everything they do will at least allow the protagonist to be alive at that point, Neil knows that can't be changed.
Oh so there are 3 Neil
So there r basically 4 neils in this scene
Yeah, this makes clear again, there were two Neils beyond midway (after inversion in the turnstile). When "inverted Neil" arrives he sees the explosion, "normal Neil" at this exact moment saves Yves and TP by pulling them out of the cavern.
He shoots himself at the car 😱
Imagine living in Stalsk-12:
Mom: That's it, go play videogames now because i say it!
Kid: *leaves his homework done*
Kid: *does his homework*
Mom: when you finish your homework!
Kid: can i please play videogames? D:
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Only question I have is after he pulls Ives and TP out of the hole, he has to invert again and go back to take the bullet for TP right...so my question is how did he get inside the tunnel if the entrance is blocked by the rocks from the trip wire detonation that Sator’s henchman made? Can anyone explain? Is there something I’m missing??
I think he got in before the entrance was blocked and he has to save the protagonist that why he placed himself right before the protagonist so that he can take the bullet and that's why he locked the door so that the protagonist can't just rush to that guy as he(protagonist) can get killed by the bullet
@@devashishjoshi1937 that’s the only way he could’ve that I can think of, so you must be right
@@ezramotz1995 bro I've another question why the protagonist and Neil can't use the turnstile in Tallinn for reverting back instead they chose to use the one in the Freeport, I know Ives said them that they gained control of theachine minutes ago but what does that mean? Can u explain
@@devashishjoshi1937 it means, they wouldn’t have time to use the turnstile, giving Sator and his man had full control of the machine and the event that just taken place.
@@devashishjoshi1937 yes I didn’t understand at first either but it makes sense when you get it. They need to invert (go backwards into the past) to heal Kat’s wounds. So if they all were to invert using this turnstile (which they do I believe, which is fine because they leave right after they use it) they would need to revert again back to normal after a few days because that’s what they need to do to heal Kat’s wounds. So if they only gained control of this machine at this moment in time in the present, they wouldn’t be able to use it again after three days of moving backwards because before this moment when Ives and his team took it over, it belonged to Sator/Sator had control over it. So that’s why they need to find another turnstile in the past, and the only other one they knew of in the past was the one at Freeport, which works perfectly because their past versions were already there three days ago to cause a diversion, so they would be able to slip in unseen and use it really quickly without anyone (besides maybe their past selves) noticing. Hope I explained it fine and hope this helps!
But how did he get the watch that showed the normal flow of time (the red one)?
I don't know about the digital timer turning red, but the entropy of the watch reverted back to the normal flow of time when he entered the turnstile. Perhaps the color of the digital indicator changes based on the watches entropy.
I assumed he got it off a dead soldier
@@stonemedia8901 interesting, I wouldn’t doubt that, I mean they were special watches they got specifically for this temporal pincer operation weren’t they? At least that’s what I’m assuming, but it makes sense.
@@destroyallbacteriad.a.b9007 that could very well be the case too.
Blue and red are two different Sides of the same spectrum. They are the same frequency but going in the opposite direction of each other.
With this knowledge my thought would be:
going forwards it appears red because you see it in the normal time flow but going inverted it’s blue because the color frequency appears backwards to you.
I don't believe this soundtrack is real
when in the timeline neil travels to the opera to save tp?
Same question
New alpha reality entails only to the opera siege backwards storyline so beginning ending new reality forming / a pardoxal loop that we witness linear through the movie
Too many cuts! It is just so messed up to be understood.
If it's from Neil's point of view, wouldn't we always see him moving "forward"? (Forward from his perspective, I don't mean forward in time)
Neil is always wearing blue in this scene because he's meant to be going backwards. But there are two versions of him because he goes through a turnstile again causing himself to move forward. So this edit is showing what it's like with time moving forward, hence why one Neil is moving backwards, he's the one that started the mission inverted but the film showed it from his POV so it appeared he was moving forward.
This edit is to show you how they line up in real time and not from both of their perspectives like the film did.
Hope this makes sense.
@@sonsofbiscuits1 brilliant explanation
tenet my ass