SoundTools SuperCat Sound Tails & 48 Channel Single Rackspace Breakout
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- čas přidán 9. 07. 2024
- In this video I show various SoundTools products including the CatBox, CatTails, WallCat 4, WallCat 8 and SuperCat Sound Tails configured for 48 channels of analog audio in a single rack space.
00:00 Intro
01:18 SuperCat Sound Tails
02:45 Single rack space 48 channel breakout
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the 48 channels in 1 rack space all analog is a real breakthrough, great job sound tools team!
Awesome and thank you!
You and I seem to be on the same page! I have been telling my co-workers about this kind of stuff for the last year or two. I look forward to the day when all low voltage (other than speaker level) is carried on shielded CAT6 cable. The fact is the tightly twisted pairs of a CAT6 cable are vastly superior to what is commonly used for mic/line wire in the installation market. Unfortunately the installed AV world is like the “puppy who lost its way”. Thanks for showing the AV world the way of the future. :)
Thank you Patrick!
Very cool design
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I hope at some point
Our System can buy a couple of racks ! These are brilliant!
Awesome and thank you!!
Cool innovations, must be very satisfying to work with this grade stuff. I dig it!
Yes and thank you!
Awesome stuff Dave!!
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This really Is Next level Ingenuity.. Great Stuff Dave..
Thank you Mark!
That Sub outro! Sounds so good
Fun with low lows!
Thanks Dave,
I'm going to put it on paper first, then present it to the church deacons to make the decision. It's up to them. I'm only a lowly techie.
Thanks again Dave,
Larry
Cool cool, let me know if I can assist
Awesome video Dave! Thanks for sharing, I would like to give a suggestion for a next video, how to work with stompboxes for vocals, pedal effects and all that, how can you integrate to show working with the sound guy, maybe some advice or personal experiences? I know that not all the sound guys don't like vocal processors, so I am curious on your take on the matter, thanks in advance and cheers from Argentina.
Cool cool, will ponder that subject. Early on back in the late 80's I built a rack and stand for Perry Farrell (Janes Addiction) so he could control all his vocal effects while singing.
@@DaveRat wow!!! I did not know that!! Awesome! Really looking forward to that video in the future, and thanks for the reply!
CAT box should have a CAT logo on it... chasing a RAT. :D
We hide a cat in the packaging graphics!
Hii Dave,
What do i need to buy to create an 8 in splitter?
Thanks too, great stuff.
LG
Cool cool. Rack mount or boxes?
The CatRack is a 12 channel splitter in a single rack space. Using two cat tails or supercat tails will get you splits. If you want the split inside the rack, use supercat tails, if you want a split to go somewhere else, use a shielded Cat5e cable and cat tails.
Or just a couple of cat boxes and 4 sets of cat tails and some shielded Cat5e cable will do it.
If ya give a shout the Soundtools by phone or email, they/we/me will gladly assist and walk ta through optimizing.
@@DaveRat Hi Dave,
As I ponder this, I confuse myself. Will your product emulate or behave like the Behring and ART S-8? THat's what we need...a way to split mic's for separate FOH and Livestreaming.
Sorry for confusing you.
Larry
Dave I can’t seem to figure out how you can terminate each of those drain wires per pair “through” a RJ45 with only 8 pins. Shielded data cable I get, one wrap on all 4 pair but the super sound cable has a drain for each pair. Help a feeble mind understand.
Great question. The cable itself has individual drain wires. On the RJ45 side, they all get tied together, which is all good as all grounds tie together anyway on the gear we connect to. On the XLR side, having a cable with separate drain wires allows us to run a twisted pair and ground to each XLR. With conventional single drain wire Cat cable, only one XLR would get the drain wire or we would need to solder 3 additional drain wires on or have a junction box of some sort, to terminate the 4 XLR tails to an RJ45.
@@DaveRat Yep, feeble minds now understand. Ground is ground the world around. With that much wire terminating to a 23/24awg RJ connector that’s part of the reason for all the cable reinforcement. Well thought out.
@@Auxknob1 Though there is a big difference between signal ground here and chassis/power ground-don't put signal&chassis/power together (if I recall correctly though)
Dave, on a FB forum a user mentioned he was able to take a 500ft fiber switch to switch and utilize your sound tools CAT snake. Have you tried this? I feel like I’ve seen a snake where you took it over 300ft.
We use bundles of 4 x 100m (330 ft) SoundTools supercat and super cat sound cables for multiple applications as part of our system drive snakes on our arena and festival rigs.
I have not tried not am I sure I understand the 500 ft sw to sw fiber usage though.
With audio over CAT5 or any other product are you aware of a way to add an on/off switch that would allow the 4 mics to be "muted"?
Hmm, it would be the same as with audio over mic cables
brilliant!
Now if only someone would make a 6 or 8 CAT5 portable patch cable. The only bundled CAT cable I can find is solid for telcom trunk lines, with solid conductors. The whole idea of a snake is to make a single run, not retrograde to 5 or 6 individual cables from the stage.
There are several companies making multi Cat5e and higher bundled cables. Sommer is one.
The issue with bundled cat cables is that, unlike audio snake where a bunch of twisted pairs are bundled in a single jacket, cat bundles are bundles of jacketed groups of 4 pairs.
The jacketing of of the individual groups of 4 pairs is done to maintain the ability to terminate each cat5e in conventional ways to an RJ45 or ethercon.
But when you re jacket already jacketed cat5e, it significantly increases the cable diameter and cost while reducing flexibility and can reduce durability.
Rather than using jacketed cat5/6/7 with an additional overall jacket, where a failure of one cable makes the whole bundle unusable, is heavy, big and expensine, just bundling cat5e or a mix of cat5,/6/7 or whatever, provides a lower cost, more versitile solution that allows replacement or upgrading of individual CAT5/6/7 lines.
hello dave, do you know if exists any DB25 to 2X ethernet adapter?
setting up my new studio, want to use Ethernet but all my patchbays are DB25... this is getting me crazy!
Not that I know of. Although we have made custom ones for a customer and do have a plan to make a product that doea that. Reach out to Dave Knepper at soundtools.com ans will see if we can assist
Hello, actually there is one, its called AES25 to AES72 adapter.
Would you consider doing the Wallcat in a European size?
I've thought about doing it. I've been meaning to order some euro wall boxes. Love to hear suggestions on size to fit and such
Hello man, how are you and how is the beautiful Sammy, reach my peace to her. Yes, excellent explanation, well done
Thank you Saad and will do!
is this analog signal? If it is analogous, what happens with the ground of each channel?
On mixing consoles and nearly all audio gear, all the pin1 connections are tied together.
Tying oun1 together at the stage box makes no difference to tying pin1s together at the console or wherever.
As long as shielded Cat5e or better is used, all good
@@DaveRat 😵.... tOK thank you very much!!
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