This is almost always overlooked, but Forrest Gump joined the army under Project 100,000, which lowered the IQ requirements to increase the number of soldiers available for the Vietnam war. These men were more likely to be wounded, more likely to be kicked out for disciplinary problems which meant they weren’t eligible for veteran’s benefits, and more likely to be homeless and divorced than other soldiers. The same thing could be said for Forrest being recruited to play college football, but he did earn a degree so the school didn’t just do the bare minimum to keep him eligible and then kick her to the curb after his senior season.
Uh, what? Not sure I understand. Isn't giving him the degree and ending his college career the same as the army discharging him? Or the high school principal letting him pass? I mean, a diploma by itself is pretty meaningless.
It was pretty apparent in the movie that the principal was taking clear advantage of Forest's mom and abusing his power. Just because the movie put in the funny moment doesnt mean they were downplaying the serious one. It came across very clearly.
Whether she got pregnant or not, that was always going to happen in 50 first dates. Even if she never met Sandler, she would wake up and look in the mirror and wonder why she's 50
Ya, or even just a calendar or the seasons changing. Im not to versed on how the seasons work in hawaii, but if i fell asleep in what i thought was summer and woke up to snow, id be very worried.
@@Lickicker It does snow but only on the mountaintops of the Big Island. Everywhere else has two seasons with only a vague difference: the wet and the dry seasons. Cuz it still rains somewhere on the islands everyday during the dry season. But the plants can tell and they are slightly browner. Hawaii was a pretty ideal setting to avoid the season problem.
@@RecklessFables i mean yes and no. It was more a subconscious thing that she would sing only on days she saw him, but she didnt actually recognize him.
@@christianclark347 thats kinda interesting. I live in washington where we get mostly rain and then we get a few months of summer and winter. Hell its the middle of july and its about to start raining, you could probably have the same situation here because the weathers so god damn bipolar. If you thought it was like march, pretty much any weather wouldnt be to far fetched.
In the Truman show, the actors that play Truman's best friend and his wife are basically prisoners with Truman. They have to be there 24/7 with Truman.
What do you think alot of people who work abroad do? There paid and shipped to where that job needs them. They are paid good money to live somewhere to work and sleep. They could have left that show, but why leave if your getting paid good, and basically just live a sheltered life
In addition, Truman's wife isn't played by a pornstar, because she doesn't have sex with him 90 percent of the time she's with him. She has to act. She's more like Maggie Gyllehaal in the Deuce, having sex scenes and acting up a storm between them.
I like the imagine the reason his bestie had pneumonia for a month, was to get him therapy to accept he's going to be deceiving his friend for the rest of his life.
A few years before "Revenge of the Nerds", there was a storyline in the US soap opera "General Hospital" where a criminal character named Luke Spencer who straight up commited SA on a young woman named Laura. They fell in love, got married and became the heroes of the series. (Which reminds me -- you should do a list of jaw-dropping craziest storylines from classic US TV soap operas. You'll have loads of material to choose from.) Anyway, the "Revenge" storyline is horrible today, but it was already well established in it's time.
Luke's rape of Laura was not just "rape by deception" ... but there were ramifications for that for YEARS after. even when I was watching other stuff in the early aughts. on OLTL, they had Todd and Marty together, which was insane. Todd didn't just rape Marty, he lead the group of guys who gang raped her. and people still defended it.
When I was little my grandmother watched every soap that came over broadcast. And I'm not sure which one it was... maybe General Hospital too? Anyway, there was some egyptian curse item that was being used to mummify people. Totally out of left field storyline. Freaked me the eff out. :D
_> a criminal character named Luke Spencer who straight up commited SA on a young woman named Laura. They fell in love, got married_ Happens in real life all the time
It's crazy to me now how much attitudes have changed --it's obviously a good thing but looking back on how non-chalant people were about rape is trippy. Luke and Laura transcended soaps. They were so popular that Elizabeth Taylor asked to guest on the show. Their wedding had huge, huge ratings. Years later, because attitudes had changed, when the characters came back, the show addressed the rape and their marriage with their son finding out and pretty much cutting his father out of his life completely. At the time, the rape was presented as "romantic" because he was in love with her and thought he was about to die. That was a staple of soaps back then, as well as historical romance novels. using "he's overcome by passion/love" etc...to excuse it.
Forrest Gump does not belong on this list, for this aspect. The coercion of Forrests Mother was a clear and open plot point of the movie. Far more overlooked is how Jennys treatment of Forrest is utterly despicable. She denies him of years of knowing his son. She abuses his love for him at every single turn and then runs off again after she got what she needed.
I have argued over this many of times with people on reaction channels of this movie. Everyone is always well jenny was abused blah blah, you know who else has often been abused , lots of male serial killers, are we giving them free passes? no , if you totally took this story and made the main character a slow adult female with a male doing that over time to her, we would hear a 100% different reaction to it.
Right you are. She is sympathetic at first and gradually starts treating Forrest like garbage. Then she asks him to come see her to introduce what we have to assume is his son. The only right thing she ever did for Forrest was to introduce him to his son after hiding him away. Even then she only did that when she learned she was dying. The only way she could been any worse person would be if his son wasn't actually his at all.
Clearly Jenny’s treatment of Forest in the film is very bad. However, her self-destructive behavior, including her bad treatment of Forest, is more of a symptom of her mental health issues stemming from her own abuse. There are several pathological issues that could be at play, which don’t necessarily excuse the behavior, but at the minimum Jenny is not completely to blame for her behavior.
@@TimothySmiths yup. All of that. It is like teachers sleeping with students. People never see it as weird unless it is the guy that is older. That has power. The whole story is messed up from the get go. It is even worse when you know she essentially has aids... and sleeps with Forrest KNOWING she has something nasty the first time she comes back before bailing on him again then sticking him with a kid and making him take care of her. Only when she needs something does she show up.. (edit, she came back without (maybe?) being or at least knowing she has aids yet... she's just broken from everything else)
Who didn't grasp Beetlejuice was trying to marry a child? It's the main focal point of the last part of the film. Unless you fell asleep halfway through you couldn't have missed it.
@@KonradZielinski Lydia’s parents didn’t give consent. Did you see what Beetlejuice did to her parents during the attempted wedding? That’s not asking for consent...that’s forcing the parents to watch. It was only the timely intervention and quick thinking of the Maitlands that saved Lydia from being forcibly married to Beetlejuice.
Well, on the other hand it was purely with intentions of legalizing inheritance fraud. Considering all the atrocities Count Olaf had committed and was about to commit...
@@hollywood25 i think the difference is BJ is such an otherworldly entity that normal human constraints don't factor in quite as much, not that Unfortunate Events is all that grounded of a story either.
Sorry to point out the obvious, but the Drew Barrymore character in 50 First Dates was going to experience that trauma every morning for the rest of her life no mater what. Her brother and father attempted to put this off by attempting to just recreate the same day over and over again. But eventually that would have been impossible. Sooner of later her father was going to die and no longer be there. But even before that point, she was going to age. Sooner or later she is going to wake up and see a woman years older than what she is expecting looking back at her from her mirror. Instead, Sandler's character found a way for her to cope with those changes each day and still live a fulfilling life. Sometimes you can't fix the problem, but you can treat the symptoms so that the person affected can suffer the least.
How is someone with no long term memory going to be capable of a long term consensual relationship? How can they reasonably say yes in the long term if they are going to forget about saying yes soon after?
@@melissawickersham9912 The same way every other person does? Granted, it would be at a much more conscious level. But don't all of us have to decide from day to day to continue to accept our relationships or take steps to change them every day?
Their relationship isn't built on sexual assault it's built on an extremely abusive relationship, there's multiple comics where it's implied that Joker has no sexual interest in Harley no matter how much she tries to seduce him
What most audience didn't get (and why the first Suicide Squad movie was ruined with massive reshoots, I still would like to see the original version by the way) is that Joker's and Harley's relationship is and always has been extremely toxic and abusive on both sides. I think sexual assault was never really a part here, though, I am not even sure if the Joker is physically able of having sex. Harley was always depicted as quite sexually active, to the point where she traded sexual favours for better grades as a student, even before becomming Harley Quinn.
@@MyRegardsToTheDodo You do not need a phallus to S.A. someone. Not long ago a man got tried locally for S.A. a young person even after he was... surgically altered in an accident.
@@MyRegardsToTheDodo You know we DO have this cool thing called Google, where you can look stuff up. Don't be a moron your whole life Try looking up Michelle Philpots but she isn't even the only one
I don't see any way that relationship lasts, having started off on such weird terms. Then, once they break up, she's the wrong age and has disappeared from the adults that knew her... Where does she go from there?
@@kanedaku Doubt it's the channel owners. It's youtube's censoring algorythm. Mine got deleted aswell, and it wasn't anything negative about the channel.
@@MyRegardsToTheDodo I stated the obvious about the very real male _"assault"_ that happens in Wonder Woman 84. Typical. I remember a time when the the options were to allow/not allow hyperlinks, and allow/not allow swearies.
Police Academy has 2 different sexual assaults take place that are glossed over (with the same female character committing them) and 40 Days and 40 Nights has a rape where the rapist basically gets paid and no real consequences, while the victim has to apologize for being raped.
Beetlejuice is not a poltergeist, he is a actual ghost. There is a difference, a ghost was a living person at one time and a poltergeist never had a human form.
Many Parapsychologists define a poltergeist as a living person with uncontrolled telekinesis and other psychic powers who unconsciously and unknowingly uses their powers to cause what seems like ghostly manifestations and the unexplained movement of objects. Basically, someone with ghostly abilities who isn’t dead. These people have these bouts of recurrent spontaneous telekinesis because they are very emotionally troubled. They are unable to express their emotional pain through normal means, so they lash out psychically. So some kinds of poltergeists do have a living human form.
Glad you had Revenge of the Nerds at the top of the list. I rewatched it a few years ago as an adult and was like, wow that scene is messed up. A similar thing happens in Sixteen Candles in which Jake, who is supposed to be the Mr. Dreamy in the teen rom com, hands his barely conscious girlfriend over to nerdy Farmer Ted with the complete understanding that Ted is going to have his way with her. And just as in Revenge of the Nerds, when the girl realizes what’s happened to her, instead of being repulsed or outraged, she’s like “oh wow, it was so good I think I love you now!”
Yes waking up every morning to find out their you lose memories every night is tragic. But, finding out someone is helping you have the things in life you never stopped wanting is not tragic. It's what make the movie great.
Ty. Never mind also that she has developed some lingering fuzzy memory of this man who appears in the video. By that time she likely dreams about him on a similar fuzzy, familiar level. Confusion and initial jump-start scare upon opening eyes, sure; *horror* upon being given time alone to ingest info that makes sense and helps to further solidify what little familiarity her brain can develop? Nah. Comfort. Endearment. Etc.
Bkade Runner (I havent seen 2049) but the moralising here is weird. The replicants were created for a purpose, a function, like a toaster. So can you grape an artifical thing thats designed and created for a particular purpose? Thats a bigger question than you think and above ethics and mortality because it's pushing into existentialism. Plus I dont recall coorcion in Blade Runner? Racheal killed another replicant to save Deckard... The implication was there from a very early stage Rachel was a willing participant upon discovering her own reality.
This is What Culture. They ascribe to the modern notion that any interaction with a woman must have parameters drafted by a legal team, signed and filed in triplicate, notarized in the presence of a justice of the peace, and garner no less than 500 up votes on reddit. If not, then straight to the MeToo gulag.
Young, yes. We don't know if she was "very" young. Probably a teenager, when he was in college interning with her father. So possibly legal at the time, if immoral (and maybe illegal) by today's standards.
@@yagsyags5694 If I remember correctly, George Lucas initially conceptualized her being 11 when she and Indy had their fling, but then Spielberg obvious saw how wrong that would be and bumped her age up to a much more respectable......15? Not much of an improvement there, Stephen...
Yeah apparently narrator doesn't realize how War works.. an it's NOT like they was mowing down civilians just for fun they was breaking into high security areas an often fighting it out with said deadly agents that outclassed them most the time in most every way. An the swarms of plugged in Humans were all very well armed, half them armored and trying to work together to forcibly catch an often kill them. So they had little or no choices
Not to mention that, To quote Morpheus: You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.
@@melissawickersham9912 but BJ is already portrayed as the bad guy, we know what he is doing isn't good from the start so we don't really need to apply real world layers onto it.
First worthy chance that came around an when she had a chance to break free an stay clear of it she promptly defected AND LITERALLY the story goes she turns her back on slaving to help them. Of witch it didn't mention she's not just an alien slaver that used to be an elite warrior she was basically an enforcer too
So does the culture of Asgard approve of her actions? We may think that what she did was wrong, but the Asgard would probably have different viewpoints than ours on this.
@@melissawickersham9912 doubtful, according to that universe THEY inspired OUR Nordic peoples an associated History. An we know most such cultures on Earth when Vikings were a thing an acted like Thor and them kept Slaves which was common in Ancient times so probably would depend on how she conducted herself as a warrior
Susan is going to need a lot of therapy after her relationship with Josh, and she'll find it hard to trust anyone again. Also, Josh's mum is going to realise that he looks a lot like his supposed kidnapper, when he's a grown up for real.
I dunno if Susan is going to need therapy, she was fully aware of the child like nature of the way he acted/thought. The big thing to get around is "holy crap there's a machine that will actually make you young?" kind of magic. As for his parents, I'm sure Josh could keep saying what happened to him, hell I'm sure the police are going to question the crap out of him too, and maybe as he gets older he can be like "See mom, I fricking told you I magically aged 30 years!"
In the Truman Show movie there is a part were they say that they point the camera in other direction during s3x scenes and don't show anything. You should at least watch the movies before making a video about it.
Most of these are stretches to say the least. You are doing the thing that the 2020’s will be famous for, where we examine scenarios from multiple POV’s and if we find one of them that can be considered to be morally indignant, which can probably levelled at all scenarios, then we condemn the scenario as that be the way it was intended
Did you just offer up that the dead guy marrying a teenager would be illegal? In what jurisdiction, exactly, would the long dead ghost of a man marrying a teenager girl have anything to do with the law? That's dumb.
For one thing, in the USA it’s illegal for the living to marry the dead. For another thing, no one in Lydia’s family consented to the marriage and the marriage was attempted under duress..Lydia was being coerced or forced into marriage against her will. That’s horrible even if the guy who tried to do that to her was alive. Lastly, Lydia was 16 and the minimum age of consent for marriage is 18 in several jurisdictions. So if Beetlejuice wasn’t a dead guy, he would be committing a crime if this forced marriage was attempted in the jurisdictions where the minimum age of marriage consent is 18.
"Beetlejuice, you have violated the laws of reality. In addition, we've got some federal, states, and county laws that you broke." "Fine, but what do you think of this?"
I'd argue that Beetlejuice is not quite as bad as it seems. I'm not defending the idea of him marrying a teenager, its more of a marriage of convivence and not anything romantic. He's basically trying to get his green card. It's still bad that it's a teenager but he didn't have any options either. It's still good they pulled away from that. Can't wait to see how things play out in the next movie.
Ahhh... "50 first dates"... It was a good romcom until the last few minutes, where I realised exactly the same thing. Also because of it I no longer think of it as a happy movie, but a very sad one...
Let's not forget that in addition to the deceptive rape in "Revenge of the Nerds," they also set up hidden cameras in the female dorm to spy on them in various states of undress!
The deplorableness of Louis' actions in Revenge of the Nerds overshadows another important point. The "SA by deception" in Revenge of the Nerds is not technically a crime in most states. However, putting cameras in changing rooms is. The nerds could have been arrested for that latter one, but Louis would likely not have gotten prison time for his actions regarding Betty.
@@CosmicGoku529 That only works if he actively deceived her and she didn't consent to just a random stranger that she _thought_ was her boyfriend. (I don't remember what exactly happened in RotN and don't intend to rewatch it)
Actually, in many American states child marriage is legal. 38 of them to be precise. The illegal part of the Beetlejuice wedding would have been the fact a dead person has no legal standing, and therefore can't marry anyone. Also, wasn't Truman's wife a girlfriend from high school? Wouldn't that have meant they hired her as a teenager to play this role?
Not only did Beetlejuice try to marry a living girl when the law prohibits marriage between the living and the dead, but the marriage was attempted entirely without the consent of the parents. In the states where child marriages are legal, they are usually done with the consent of the parents. That lack of consent on the part of the parents would make this particular marriage illegal as well.
@@melissawickersham9912 Without wanting to be too pedantic, but doesn't the ban on marriages between living and dead people explicitly apply to the situation where a living person wants to marry a deceased person, and not the other way around? Especially since there are certainly not too many precedents for the legislator for a dead person trying to marry a living person. Furthermore, as far as I know, the legally relevant point of this decision is that a deceased person cannot usually express the consent that is considered necessary for a marriage. However, Beetlejuice cannot really be accused of a lack of willingness and the initiative also comes from him. In other words, although he is dead from a medical point of view, from a legal point of view he is a person who can express his consent and his will, which again reduces the legal problem to the question of the bride's age and the lack of consent of the parents of the underage bride. Ethical questions, which in my personal opinion are only taken into account very inadequately by the current US law, are left aside for now.
@@marcromain64 Juno’s words about a routine haunting like the Maitlands providing proof of an existence beyond death imply that in-universe, the living do not generally know about the afterlife. As a ghost, Beetlejuice would be legally dead as well as medically dead because he has no legal paperwork that provides proof of his own existence. Someone who is legally dead can’t marry anyone.
5:45 It is way *WAY* worse that that. It's possible that Neo never escaped the Matrix. All of the events in the films were a simulation. At least this way no innocent people died.
Ironic, considering the BOAT THAT ROCKS DJs were based on the Radio Caroline DJs; some of whom became BBC Radio djs and serial sex assault suspects e.g. Ray Teret, Dave Lee Travis etc
Most of these were no secret and didn't slip by people. They were part of the conflict and acknowledged as part of the story beats. Some of them were also commentaries, like Forest Gump went on to contribute so much to society and the only way he got that chance was someone circumventing the rules that kept him and people like him from participating in society. The entire subtext of the film is that those that are different have so much to contribute but are sidelined and tormented by the majority.
On the topic of the matrix, I always saw it as the people he’s killing are essentially already used up batteries for the machines already anyways. When Neo is picked up from the fields he is in a tank with acupuncture needles in him for an undetermined amount of time to retrain the muscles he’s never used before so I can imagine the humans he’s killing are worse off than he is.
That’s still bad, because the people in the tanks are still essentially innocent victims stuck in a simulation. If they are worse off than he is, then they are basically comatose and dying people who are stuck in a nightmare.
The biggest issue in Big is the torment that Josh's mom (family) must go through having had their son kidnapped and then having a grown man appear and claim to be him.
When we were in the army i used to make the grunting sounds around the actor that played little forrest all the time. So, trust me it affected him for more of his life.
Regarding Valkyrie, to be fair the character is being true to her Viking inspiration. One of the largest, is not the largest, revenue streams for the Vikings was the slave trade.
Another one that should make the list is Back to the Future 2. During the course of the movie, Marty almost had to have died several times, which is proven by the fact that Doc shows up with the time machine at just the right place and just the right time to save Marty, even though in most of the instances, he would have no knowledge where Marty was nor that he was in danger, unless he came back to that point because Marty died.
1. It's "toys" not "toy's" and (less a nitpick more an interesting thing) 2. Keanu Reeves told a story about trying to explain The Matrix to a 13 y/o kid of a friend, saying it was a story about a guy who finds out he's living in this digital world and there's a real world, so he starts questioning what's real and not and really wants to know. The kid basically asked who cares if it's real? Keanu asked "You don't care if it's real?" And the kid was basically like, "no"...
About the Truman Show point, it gets even worse if you realize that the would be wife had been cast at least while she was still a teenager. Possibly even earlier. From what I remember they pushed her on Truman at the very least in his teenage years, so they had definitely planned for that while she was still a minor. Edit: Something I personally feel is even more messed up in the Truman Show: The director being open and quite frankly proud about his child abuse of Truman. Right in the beginning they talk in an interview with him where he talks about how they prevented Truman from seeing the outside world and he then explains how they had Trumans father "killed" to create a deep trauma and a fear of water, resulting in Truman even being afraid of crossing a bridge. He openly admits to psychologically torturing Truman to keep him in his prison. What isn't said and what I wouldn't be surprised about is if they created some incidents afterwards to reinforce that trauma. Maybe even put Truman in a room with a fake therapist who reinforces that trauma. So in other words, at some point the whole world watched a kid being traumatized on live TV and everyone had been ok with it.
In phantom of the opera, the actress playing Christine was only 17 while Raoul was 30 and the Phantom was 34. She very passionately made out with both of them in the making of the movie. The age gap is the same in the story too.
I don't think that Beetlejuice one was different than we thought. I think it was in character and the film was pretty open about it. It was funny, but also awful -- but then it was a different time. Remember, he was supposed to be evil and despicable. There was a time when a good percentage of all marriages were with teenage girls. Of course things are different now -- people take an extra 15 years to grow up now. Just saying. The other thing is that apostrophe at 6:43 -- really?
Not bad except for Blade Runner assesment. You should rewatch their interaction and remember the context of why she was there, and what her psycological struggle was. It wasn't that she had an issue with him, she didn't feel real. And all of her memories were fake. He told her exactly what he wanted, and she did it because she wanted it too. She didn't say "I can't" - she says "I can’t rely on my memory to.." and he repeats himself. There was never a 'No", just real human interaction and passion.
Blade Runner - yeah that scene is tough. I think the idea, as conceived, was that she was denying her feelings for Deckard because she was reeling from learning that she was a replicant, and was thinking that nothing she experienced was real. Deckard wasn't having that and pushed the issue. As filmed, however, it comes across rougher and angrier than intended in part because Ford didn't like the actress. At all. She's always been a little crazy and he's always been grumpy, so...
I guess everyone really does ignore all The Matrix sequels and supplemental media. It turns out that everyone is making a choice at the subconscious level to support or rebel against the system. The people, who are also actively trying to fight Neo as enemy combatants, by the way, have chosen to be part of the fight on that side. Neo is fighting to force the system to allow the rebels to leave without causing the future wars and fighting, which would actually save far more lives on both sides in the long run.
The fact that we live in a society where people say things “while I am not here IN ANYWAY to cast shade over sex workers” before making any comment about prostitution really shows how bad things are. Prostitution is a bad thing, What Culture. It’s okay to say that. In fact, it’s necessary to say that, because there may be a young girl watching this video who now has the impression that it’s perfectly fine for her to become a prostitution one day. Wake up!
Not everyone in the Matrix was human, and the second film went some ways in explaining this, primarily through introduction of MANY characters who weren't human. The security guards, soldiers, and swat police at the agent HQ were quite likely lesser machines, like weaker models of the agents.
Beetlejuice was attempting to marry Lydia without her consent and without the consent of her parents. In the case of underage marriages, the parents would need to consent to the marriage in order for the marriage to be valid. The marriage wouldn’t have been valid anyway because the dead have no legal standing in the laws of the living world. Even if the afterlife could accept marriage between the living and the dead...such a marriage is completely illegal in the part of the living world where the film was set.
@@AltonV the person has to be the one to press charges in that case though. Since she seems to not care, not be pursuing charges, that means it isn't technically a crime.
Lydia was a "teenager" - so that means anywhere between 13 and 19 .. and the US legal age for marriage is, in many places, 14+ Most people agree that she was actually 16 in the movie, so ... there was absolutely nothing wrong with her getting married.
the whole point of forrest gump was that his life was symbolic of america growing up and pointing out it's changes. ofc there are going to be moments like that one you are deriding.
Yeah I remember seeing revenge of the nerds when I was younger and being shocked by that scene. It's all funny and fine up until that point and then they just trick a girl into sleeping with them by pretending to be her boyfriend in costume. Even in the 80's I can't believe that was okay to make light of.
Ok regarding Revenge of the Nerds, she must have known, I mean is she really not gonna notice the diference between the body of a jock and a scrawny nerd.
she knew she even looked at him when he was scared like big dummy I knew it was you and then kissed him. She had been fed up with her boyfriend for the whole movie. She removed the mask like look it was fun but you dont have to hide I like you. She was trying to take the mask off gently several times. I never interpret that scene like people online do and it makes me worry about the people online who view it this way.
This is almost always overlooked, but Forrest Gump joined the army under Project 100,000, which lowered the IQ requirements to increase the number of soldiers available for the Vietnam war. These men were more likely to be wounded, more likely to be kicked out for disciplinary problems which meant they weren’t eligible for veteran’s benefits, and more likely to be homeless and divorced than other soldiers.
The same thing could be said for Forrest being recruited to play college football, but he did earn a degree so the school didn’t just do the bare minimum to keep him eligible and then kick her to the curb after his senior season.
Uh, what? Not sure I understand. Isn't giving him the degree and ending his college career the same as the army discharging him? Or the high school principal letting him pass? I mean, a diploma by itself is pretty meaningless.
What fucking degree? I don't remember him even being in college except for getting CGI'ed into a George Wallace segregation protest or some shit.
@@CZcams-tied Didnt he play football for Alabama?
@@monkberrymoon4042 I guess but I dont remember him getting a degree. Then again I havent seen the movie in at least 20 years. It didnt grow on me.
@@CZcams-tied I don't know either. OP said he got a degree, so I went with that.
But I really dont care about such a maudlin, silly film.
It was pretty apparent in the movie that the principal was taking clear advantage of Forest's mom and abusing his power. Just because the movie put in the funny moment doesnt mean they were downplaying the serious one. It came across very clearly.
Whether she got pregnant or not, that was always going to happen in 50 first dates. Even if she never met Sandler, she would wake up and look in the mirror and wonder why she's 50
Ya, or even just a calendar or the seasons changing. Im not to versed on how the seasons work in hawaii, but if i fell asleep in what i thought was summer and woke up to snow, id be very worried.
@@Lickicker It does snow but only on the mountaintops of the Big Island. Everywhere else has two seasons with only a vague difference: the wet and the dry seasons. Cuz it still rains somewhere on the islands everyday during the dry season. But the plants can tell and they are slightly browner.
Hawaii was a pretty ideal setting to avoid the season problem.
It's been a while since I watched it, but wasn't one of the plot points that she started to kinda remember him?
@@RecklessFables i mean yes and no. It was more a subconscious thing that she would sing only on days she saw him, but she didnt actually recognize him.
@@christianclark347 thats kinda interesting. I live in washington where we get mostly rain and then we get a few months of summer and winter. Hell its the middle of july and its about to start raining, you could probably have the same situation here because the weathers so god damn bipolar. If you thought it was like march, pretty much any weather wouldnt be to far fetched.
In the Truman show, the actors that play Truman's best friend and his wife are basically prisoners with Truman. They have to be there 24/7 with Truman.
Probably paid a good bit better than most convicts though.
Not really. They could've easily gone home when Truman isn't around
What do you think alot of people who work abroad do? There paid and shipped to where that job needs them. They are paid good money to live somewhere to work and sleep. They could have left that show, but why leave if your getting paid good, and basically just live a sheltered life
In addition, Truman's wife isn't played by a pornstar, because she doesn't have sex with him 90 percent of the time she's with him. She has to act. She's more like Maggie Gyllehaal in the Deuce, having sex scenes and acting up a storm between them.
I like the imagine the reason his bestie had pneumonia for a month, was to get him therapy to accept he's going to be deceiving his friend for the rest of his life.
A few years before "Revenge of the Nerds", there was a storyline in the US soap opera "General Hospital" where a criminal character named Luke Spencer who straight up commited SA on a young woman named Laura. They fell in love, got married and became the heroes of the series. (Which reminds me -- you should do a list of jaw-dropping craziest storylines from classic US TV soap operas. You'll have loads of material to choose from.) Anyway, the "Revenge" storyline is horrible today, but it was already well established in it's time.
Luke's rape of Laura was not just "rape by deception" ... but there were ramifications for that for YEARS after. even when I was watching other stuff in the early aughts. on OLTL, they had Todd and Marty together, which was insane. Todd didn't just rape Marty, he lead the group of guys who gang raped her. and people still defended it.
I wasnt around for it as I was born in 1985, but my mom told me that the Luke and Laura thing took over the country for quite a while.
When I was little my grandmother watched every soap that came over broadcast. And I'm not sure which one it was... maybe General Hospital too? Anyway, there was some egyptian curse item that was being used to mummify people. Totally out of left field storyline. Freaked me the eff out. :D
_> a criminal character named Luke Spencer who straight up commited SA on a young woman named Laura. They fell in love, got married_
Happens in real life all the time
It's crazy to me now how much attitudes have changed --it's obviously a good thing but looking back on how non-chalant people were about rape is trippy. Luke and Laura transcended soaps. They were so popular that Elizabeth Taylor asked to guest on the show. Their wedding had huge, huge ratings. Years later, because attitudes had changed, when the characters came back, the show addressed the rape and their marriage with their son finding out and pretty much cutting his father out of his life completely. At the time, the rape was presented as "romantic" because he was in love with her and thought he was about to die. That was a staple of soaps back then, as well as historical romance novels. using "he's overcome by passion/love" etc...to excuse it.
Forrest Gump does not belong on this list, for this aspect. The coercion of Forrests Mother was a clear and open plot point of the movie. Far more overlooked is how Jennys treatment of Forrest is utterly despicable. She denies him of years of knowing his son. She abuses his love for him at every single turn and then runs off again after she got what she needed.
I have argued over this many of times with people on reaction channels of this movie. Everyone is always well jenny was abused blah blah, you know who else has often been abused , lots of male serial killers, are we giving them free passes? no , if you totally took this story and made the main character a slow adult female with a male doing that over time to her, we would hear a 100% different reaction to it.
Right you are. She is sympathetic at first and gradually starts treating Forrest like garbage. Then she asks him to come see her to introduce what we have to assume is his son. The only right thing she ever did for Forrest was to introduce him to his son after hiding him away. Even then she only did that when she learned she was dying. The only way she could been any worse person would be if his son wasn't actually his at all.
Jenny sucked
Clearly Jenny’s treatment of Forest in the film is very bad. However, her self-destructive behavior, including her bad treatment of Forest, is more of a symptom of her mental health issues stemming from her own abuse. There are several pathological issues that could be at play, which don’t necessarily excuse the behavior, but at the minimum Jenny is not completely to blame for her behavior.
@@TimothySmiths yup. All of that. It is like teachers sleeping with students. People never see it as weird unless it is the guy that is older. That has power. The whole story is messed up from the get go. It is even worse when you know she essentially has aids... and sleeps with Forrest KNOWING she has something nasty the first time she comes back before bailing on him again then sticking him with a kid and making him take care of her. Only when she needs something does she show up.. (edit, she came back without (maybe?) being or at least knowing she has aids yet... she's just broken from everything else)
"Love that starts with hate."
Pretty much 90% of rom coms
Sailor Moon.
DEADPOOL AND WOLVERINE IN THEATERS JULY 26TH!😹😂🤣
Who didn't grasp Beetlejuice was trying to marry a child? It's the main focal point of the last part of the film. Unless you fell asleep halfway through you couldn't have missed it.
Same as his name is betelgeuse. Literal billboards
But the most rememberable scene, charades, never showed it.
It would also have been legal in the time and place the movie was set, as long as her parents gave consent.
I mean that’s why he was such a creep was because he was trying to do that.
@@KonradZielinski Indeed, something that is looked over by many
@@KonradZielinski
Lydia’s parents didn’t give consent. Did you see what Beetlejuice did to her parents during the attempted wedding? That’s not asking for consent...that’s forcing the parents to watch.
It was only the timely intervention and quick thinking of the Maitlands that saved Lydia from being forcibly married to Beetlejuice.
I never understood how people missed the Valkyrie one. Like hey a slaver is now in charge of Asgard lol
And without remorse. Maybe is the gender or the....nice skin that can't make her a criminal in her mind.
Slaver/bounty hunter/cop
To be fair the norse did practice slavery
well, that's leadership for ya
@@jacara1981 I'm more talking about MCU fans who celebrate her character but ignore a MAJOR red flag
In the Lemony Snicket movie Violet almost gets married while she's a teenager
Funny thing is I was somewhat bothered by that, but didn't register the same way in Beetlejuice lol
To her elderly cousin no less.
Well, on the other hand it was purely with intentions of legalizing inheritance fraud. Considering all the atrocities Count Olaf had committed and was about to commit...
@@zhertva0d lol, yeah, there's a lot of murdering going on there. violet got off light.
@@hollywood25 i think the difference is BJ is such an otherworldly entity that normal human constraints don't factor in quite as much, not that Unfortunate Events is all that grounded of a story either.
50 First Dates is actually based on an actual syndrome, which makes it even darker.
People with this syndrome are forbidden of ever finding love?
After a car accident that caused brain damage in regarding memory, 50 First Dates is no longer funny to me. Luckily my long term memory is still there
Sorry to point out the obvious, but the Drew Barrymore character in 50 First Dates was going to experience that trauma every morning for the rest of her life no mater what. Her brother and father attempted to put this off by attempting to just recreate the same day over and over again. But eventually that would have been impossible. Sooner of later her father was going to die and no longer be there. But even before that point, she was going to age. Sooner or later she is going to wake up and see a woman years older than what she is expecting looking back at her from her mirror. Instead, Sandler's character found a way for her to cope with those changes each day and still live a fulfilling life. Sometimes you can't fix the problem, but you can treat the symptoms so that the person affected can suffer the least.
How is someone with no long term memory going to be capable of a long term consensual relationship? How can they reasonably say yes in the long term if they are going to forget about saying yes soon after?
@@melissawickersham9912 The same way every other person does? Granted, it would be at a much more conscious level. But don't all of us have to decide from day to day to continue to accept our relationships or take steps to change them every day?
i mean, everything with Harley and Joker makes a love story out of sexual assault.
Along with mental abuse and torture.
Their relationship isn't built on sexual assault it's built on an extremely abusive relationship, there's multiple comics where it's implied that Joker has no sexual interest in Harley no matter how much she tries to seduce him
What most audience didn't get (and why the first Suicide Squad movie was ruined with massive reshoots, I still would like to see the original version by the way) is that Joker's and Harley's relationship is and always has been extremely toxic and abusive on both sides. I think sexual assault was never really a part here, though, I am not even sure if the Joker is physically able of having sex. Harley was always depicted as quite sexually active, to the point where she traded sexual favours for better grades as a student, even before becomming Harley Quinn.
The New52 Suicide Squad shows that she's not even the first Harley he's created. He throws her in a dungeon with a bunch of dead "failures".
@@MyRegardsToTheDodo You do not need a phallus to S.A. someone. Not long ago a man got tried locally for S.A. a young person even after he was... surgically altered in an accident.
I don't understand how people didnt realise 50 first dates ending was basically a horror for Lucy 😭😭😭
It's based on a real life story and she doesn't think it's a horror at all
the music. when framed with the right music a romcom is a horror movie and vice versa
@@kristentaylor5359 It's as much based on a real life story as toy story is (yes, toys exist, so Toy Story is based on a real life story).
@@MyRegardsToTheDodo You know we DO have this cool thing called Google, where you can look stuff up. Don't be a moron your whole life
Try looking up Michelle Philpots but she isn't even the only one
Its a unique situation and tough situation to wake up into but falling in love with your partner every day is hardly horrific.
Big is made less devastating with the deleted scene where she wishes to be his age, and joins him at school....
Ah, the devastation caused by being overcommited to a trivial issue - so lame.
I don't see any way that relationship lasts, having started off on such weird terms. Then, once they break up, she's the wrong age and has disappeared from the adults that knew her... Where does she go from there?
That’s definitely weirder
"the toys see everything"... come on guys; that's the basics of the basics.
Those are Andy's mom's toys, they have the same names as we do- Buzz & Woody😂
@@patrickdoyle6201 Indeed. To infinity and way way beyond.
No Wonder Woman:1984?
YES! Male rape is glossed over cos its an _'empowered women'_ story.
That is something that most political correct people overlook ...
@@michaelmacaulay7808 looks like the channel owners deleted my comment from yesterday
@@kanedaku Doubt it's the channel owners. It's youtube's censoring algorythm. Mine got deleted aswell, and it wasn't anything negative about the channel.
@@MyRegardsToTheDodo I stated the obvious about the very real male _"assault"_ that happens in Wonder Woman 84.
Typical. I remember a time when the the options were to allow/not allow hyperlinks, and allow/not allow swearies.
Police Academy has 2 different sexual assaults take place that are glossed over (with the same female character committing them) and 40 Days and 40 Nights has a rape where the rapist basically gets paid and no real consequences, while the victim has to apologize for being raped.
"The Toy's See Everything". I guess it's now impossible to get anyone younger than 40 to use apostrophes correctly.
No kidding. They need to edit that.
@6:44 "The Toy's See Everything." Really? How about "The Toys See Everything"? Yes, proper punctuation is important.
I see. :)
ALL of the Nerd revenge is basically a series of sex crimes!
but hilarious sex crimes!
Right. The video cameras in the sorority house.. creepy and illegal.
Beetlejuice is not a poltergeist, he is a actual ghost. There is a difference, a ghost was a living person at one time and a poltergeist never had a human form.
He could have died as teen and with how he looks now, who could tell?
Many Parapsychologists define a poltergeist as a living person with uncontrolled telekinesis and other psychic powers who unconsciously and unknowingly uses their powers to cause what seems like ghostly manifestations and the unexplained movement of objects. Basically, someone with ghostly abilities who isn’t dead. These people have these bouts of recurrent spontaneous telekinesis because they are very emotionally troubled. They are unable to express their emotional pain through normal means, so they lash out psychically.
So some kinds of poltergeists do have a living human form.
Poltergeist is German and means a ghost (Geist) who's rumbling around (poltern = to rumble), opposite to a ghost that's just there.
You are talking about make-believe things, name them as you want, there are no rules.
Glad you had Revenge of the Nerds at the top of the list. I rewatched it a few years ago as an adult and was like, wow that scene is messed up. A similar thing happens in Sixteen Candles in which Jake, who is supposed to be the Mr. Dreamy in the teen rom com, hands his barely conscious girlfriend over to nerdy Farmer Ted with the complete understanding that Ted is going to have his way with her. And just as in Revenge of the Nerds, when the girl realizes what’s happened to her, instead of being repulsed or outraged, she’s like “oh wow, it was so good I think I love you now!”
Yes waking up every morning to find out their you lose memories every night is tragic. But, finding out someone is helping you have the things in life you never stopped wanting is not tragic. It's what make the movie great.
Ty. Never mind also that she has developed some lingering fuzzy memory of this man who appears in the video. By that time she likely dreams about him on a similar fuzzy, familiar level. Confusion and initial jump-start scare upon opening eyes, sure; *horror* upon being given time alone to ingest info that makes sense and helps to further solidify what little familiarity her brain can develop? Nah. Comfort. Endearment. Etc.
Bkade Runner (I havent seen 2049) but the moralising here is weird. The replicants were created for a purpose, a function, like a toaster. So can you grape an artifical thing thats designed and created for a particular purpose? Thats a bigger question than you think and above ethics and mortality because it's pushing into existentialism.
Plus I dont recall coorcion in Blade Runner? Racheal killed another replicant to save Deckard... The implication was there from a very early stage Rachel was a willing participant upon discovering her own reality.
This is What Culture. They ascribe to the modern notion that any interaction with a woman must have parameters drafted by a legal team, signed and filed in triplicate, notarized in the presence of a justice of the peace, and garner no less than 500 up votes on reddit. If not, then straight to the MeToo gulag.
Indiana Jones apparently had an affair with a VERY young Marion.
Young, yes. We don't know if she was "very" young. Probably a teenager, when he was in college interning with her father. So possibly legal at the time, if immoral (and maybe illegal) by today's standards.
@@yagsyags5694 If I remember correctly, George Lucas initially conceptualized her being 11 when she and Indy had their fling, but then Spielberg obvious saw how wrong that would be and bumped her age up to a much more respectable......15? Not much of an improvement there, Stephen...
@@yagsyags5694
"Today's standards" are nonsensical.
In the Matrix EVERYONE that was not unplugged was a potential lethal AGENT.
And in most cases they were trying to kill the heroes anyway.
So.....
Yeah apparently narrator doesn't realize how War works.. an it's NOT like they was mowing down civilians just for fun they was breaking into high security areas an often fighting it out with said deadly agents that outclassed them most the time in most every way. An the swarms of plugged in Humans were all very well armed, half them armored and trying to work together to forcibly catch an often kill them. So they had little or no choices
@@robertagu5533 Yes, exactly.
I was going to write the same thing as you but I got bored to bother.
Be well. 👍
Not to mention that, To quote Morpheus: You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.
@@ArthurDraco Exactly. Good point.
It means war have casualties.
I viewed Beetlehuice as it just being circumstantial.
Like all he had to do is get married. He wouldn't actually do anything else.
It was like he was marrying to get a green card to the other side
@@nv4699He was still trying to force it on someone who didn’t want it and didn’t consent to it. That’s what’s wrong about it.
@@melissawickersham9912 but BJ is already portrayed as the bad guy, we know what he is doing isn't good from the start so we don't really need to apply real world layers onto it.
@melissa..wtf lol what's wrong about it, is you not knowing BJ was a creep from the get go 😂
@@nv4699that’s a joke in the musical
Valkery wasn't a human being. She was an Asgaurdian.
which did a lot of enslavement in the background like a whole lot. so this was probably tuesday for them
First worthy chance that came around an when she had a chance to break free an stay clear of it she promptly defected AND LITERALLY the story goes she turns her back on slaving to help them. Of witch it didn't mention she's not just an alien slaver that used to be an elite warrior she was basically an enforcer too
So does the culture of Asgard approve of her actions? We may think that what she did was wrong, but the Asgard would probably have different viewpoints than ours on this.
@@melissawickersham9912 doubtful, according to that universe THEY inspired OUR Nordic peoples an associated History. An we know most such cultures on Earth when Vikings were a thing an acted like Thor and them kept Slaves which was common in Ancient times so probably would depend on how she conducted herself as a warrior
@@melissawickersham9912 Yes they would, as they are based on the Norse who widely practiced slavery
Susan is going to need a lot of therapy after her relationship with Josh, and she'll find it hard to trust anyone again. Also, Josh's mum is going to realise that he looks a lot like his supposed kidnapper, when he's a grown up for real.
I dunno if Susan is going to need therapy, she was fully aware of the child like nature of the way he acted/thought. The big thing to get around is "holy crap there's a machine that will actually make you young?" kind of magic. As for his parents, I'm sure Josh could keep saying what happened to him, hell I'm sure the police are going to question the crap out of him too, and maybe as he gets older he can be like "See mom, I fricking told you I magically aged 30 years!"
There was another version of this movie where at the end she wished herself small and she went off with josh.
@@Mike__B i would use that machine about every 30 years or so. hell, i'd buy it just to make sure it's still around
@@Trebor74 i've always heard of this alternate ending but have never been able to find it myself.
Did you just say an undead demon wanting to hook up with a teenager was illegal? lmao
lol, he's glossing over quite a lot there
In the Truman Show movie there is a part were they say that they point the camera in other direction during s3x scenes and don't show anything.
You should at least watch the movies before making a video about it.
Fact is that she still have sex with him for the show. So that is still the same.
So I guess she’s just an escort then?
Semantics
She’s still being paid to have sex with him
@@respawn76 I would say like a gold digger, a woman who marries you for your money, but doesn't feel anything for you
Most of these are stretches to say the least. You are doing the thing that the 2020’s will be famous for, where we examine scenarios from multiple POV’s and if we find one of them that can be considered to be morally indignant, which can probably levelled at all scenarios, then we condemn the scenario as that be the way it was intended
I just saw someone on Reddit to it to Wall-E. Apparently Wall-E is an older robot, while EVE is a younger robot and that, that's problematic.
If you think that phenomenon is bad in the 2020s just wait until the 2030s...
Did you just offer up that the dead guy marrying a teenager would be illegal? In what jurisdiction, exactly, would the long dead ghost of a man marrying a teenager girl have anything to do with the law? That's dumb.
For one thing, in the USA it’s illegal for the living to marry the dead. For another thing, no one in Lydia’s family consented to the marriage and the marriage was attempted under duress..Lydia was being coerced or forced into marriage against her will. That’s horrible even if the guy who tried to do that to her was alive.
Lastly, Lydia was 16 and the minimum age of consent for marriage is 18 in several jurisdictions. So if Beetlejuice wasn’t a dead guy, he would be committing a crime if this forced marriage was attempted in the jurisdictions where the minimum age of marriage consent is 18.
@@melissawickersham9912 Yes, he's the villain. Bad people do bad things.
"Beetlejuice, you have violated the laws of reality. In addition, we've got some federal, states, and county laws that you broke."
"Fine, but what do you think of this?"
I'd argue that Beetlejuice is not quite as bad as it seems. I'm not defending the idea of him marrying a teenager, its more of a marriage of convivence and not anything romantic. He's basically trying to get his green card. It's still bad that it's a teenager but he didn't have any options either. It's still good they pulled away from that. Can't wait to see how things play out in the next movie.
In the matrix should they just let the agents and people kill them? Lol
Ahhh... "50 first dates"... It was a good romcom until the last few minutes, where I realised exactly the same thing. Also because of it I no longer think of it as a happy movie, but a very sad one...
The one thing I HATED about Forrest Gump? Jenny. No matter how you slice it, she is NOT a good person. MY opinion. 🤷♂🤷♂🤷♂
You guys have used the same Big entry in like 4 lists over the last two weeks.
I'm surprised 16 Candles isn't on this list!
That whole genre of nerds movies in the 1980’s downplays very problematic behavior on the part of the nerds.
Much better to watch it in a movie than to do it in real life.
@@davidfrischknecht8261 I suppose so. Everyone likes an underdog.
Let's not forget that in addition to the deceptive rape in "Revenge of the Nerds," they also set up hidden cameras in the female dorm to spy on them in various states of undress!
The deplorableness of Louis' actions in Revenge of the Nerds overshadows another important point. The "SA by deception" in Revenge of the Nerds is not technically a crime in most states. However, putting cameras in changing rooms is. The nerds could have been arrested for that latter one, but Louis would likely not have gotten prison time for his actions regarding Betty.
Yes, she just consented to a random anonymous guy in a mask.
@@Conserpov And writing something like that into the script was the biggest crime of all.
She only consented because she thought it was her boyfriend. That is SA by deception and he would be put in prison for it if he was charged.
@@CosmicGoku529
That only works if he actively deceived her and she didn't consent to just a random stranger that she _thought_ was her boyfriend.
(I don't remember what exactly happened in RotN and don't intend to rewatch it)
Actually, in many American states child marriage is legal. 38 of them to be precise. The illegal part of the Beetlejuice wedding would have been the fact a dead person has no legal standing, and therefore can't marry anyone.
Also, wasn't Truman's wife a girlfriend from high school? Wouldn't that have meant they hired her as a teenager to play this role?
Not only did Beetlejuice try to marry a living girl when the law prohibits marriage between the living and the dead, but the marriage was attempted entirely without the consent of the parents. In the states where child marriages are legal, they are usually done with the consent of the parents. That lack of consent on the part of the parents would make this particular marriage illegal as well.
@@melissawickersham9912 Without wanting to be too pedantic, but doesn't the ban on marriages between living and dead people explicitly apply to the situation where a living person wants to marry a deceased person, and not the other way around? Especially since there are certainly not too many precedents for the legislator for a dead person trying to marry a living person.
Furthermore, as far as I know, the legally relevant point of this decision is that a deceased person cannot usually express the consent that is considered necessary for a marriage. However, Beetlejuice cannot really be accused of a lack of willingness and the initiative also comes from him. In other words, although he is dead from a medical point of view, from a legal point of view he is a person who can express his consent and his will, which again reduces the legal problem to the question of the bride's age and the lack of consent of the parents of the underage bride.
Ethical questions, which in my personal opinion are only taken into account very inadequately by the current US law, are left aside for now.
@@marcromain64
Juno’s words about a routine haunting like the Maitlands providing proof of an existence beyond death imply that in-universe, the living do not generally know about the afterlife. As a ghost, Beetlejuice would be legally dead as well as medically dead because he has no legal paperwork that provides proof of his own existence. Someone who is legally dead can’t marry anyone.
Leave both blade runners alone. Love you guys. Different times
The plural is "Toys," not "Toy's."
You mean the plural of "toy"
@@Wickerrman Haha! Ya got me!
"I'm not here in any way to cast shame over sex workers". My God this channel is so hilariously scared to offend, it's a parody.
The Toy Story entry was perfect. Short, sweet and to the gross point. Loved it.
5:45 It is way *WAY* worse that that.
It's possible that Neo never escaped the Matrix. All of the events in the films were a simulation.
At least this way no innocent people died.
The Boat That Rocks also seemed to think rape by deception was not a bad thing.
Ironic, considering the BOAT THAT ROCKS DJs were based on the Radio Caroline DJs; some of whom became BBC Radio djs and serial sex assault suspects e.g. Ray Teret, Dave Lee Travis etc
@@sammihaka2056 Yikes.
Allen Bauer Was In Love With Nude Woman he didn't know was a Mermaid Splash If there aren't any Red Flags than I must be blind
Like you wouldn't love a naked Darryl Hannah! You must have a joint account!😹😂🤣
Most of these were no secret and didn't slip by people. They were part of the conflict and acknowledged as part of the story beats.
Some of them were also commentaries, like Forest Gump went on to contribute so much to society and the only way he got that chance was someone circumventing the rules that kept him and people like him from participating in society. The entire subtext of the film is that those that are different have so much to contribute but are sidelined and tormented by the majority.
On the topic of the matrix, I always saw it as the people he’s killing are essentially already used up batteries for the machines already anyways. When Neo is picked up from the fields he is in a tank with acupuncture needles in him for an undetermined amount of time to retrain the muscles he’s never used before so I can imagine the humans he’s killing are worse off than he is.
That’s still bad, because the people in the tanks are still essentially innocent victims stuck in a simulation. If they are worse off than he is, then they are basically comatose and dying people who are stuck in a nightmare.
The ones from Forrest Gump and Beetlejuice are not played as funny. They send the exact message that they wish to send.
I never liked Valkyrie.
I noticed that she was a slaver. I didn't understand why she was being hailed as one of the heroes or whatever.
The biggest issue in Big is the torment that Josh's mom (family) must go through having had their son kidnapped and then having a grown man appear and claim to be him.
Revenge of the Nerds is super problematic in so many ways, but that’s the worst to be sure.
The scene from Forrest Gump isn't in the novel as well.
When we were in the army i used to make the grunting sounds around the actor that played little forrest all the time. So, trust me it affected him for more of his life.
Regarding Valkyrie, to be fair the character is being true to her Viking inspiration. One of the largest, is not the largest, revenue streams for the Vikings was the slave trade.
That scene in Revenge of the Nerds has bothered me since I saw it in the theater in 1984.
Do not call Valkyrie a "slave trader"... don't say the "S" word. She was a "prisoners with jobs trader"
I UNDERSTOOD THAT REFERENCE 😹😂🤣
"Bodice rippers" a.k.a. Rape fantasy has been the main stay of romance novels for ever, recent example "50 Shades of Grey", all mostly read by women.
Another one that should make the list is Back to the Future 2. During the course of the movie, Marty almost had to have died several times, which is proven by the fact that Doc shows up with the time machine at just the right place and just the right time to save Marty, even though in most of the instances, he would have no knowledge where Marty was nor that he was in danger, unless he came back to that point because Marty died.
Most people over the age of 10 would have picked up on all of this.
Nice buzzkill Jules.
What he said on the outside is what I say on the inside.
Valkyrie also joked around while kids were kidnapped and Thor was trying to save them
What about the mom in Big? The whole movie she thinks her son was kidnapped by a person who when first met is pretending to be her son.
1. It's "toys" not "toy's" and (less a nitpick more an interesting thing) 2. Keanu Reeves told a story about trying to explain The Matrix to a 13 y/o kid of a friend, saying it was a story about a guy who finds out he's living in this digital world and there's a real world, so he starts questioning what's real and not and really wants to know. The kid basically asked who cares if it's real? Keanu asked "You don't care if it's real?" And the kid was basically like, "no"...
About the Truman Show point, it gets even worse if you realize that the would be wife had been cast at least while she was still a teenager. Possibly even earlier. From what I remember they pushed her on Truman at the very least in his teenage years, so they had definitely planned for that while she was still a minor.
Edit:
Something I personally feel is even more messed up in the Truman Show: The director being open and quite frankly proud about his child abuse of Truman. Right in the beginning they talk in an interview with him where he talks about how they prevented Truman from seeing the outside world and he then explains how they had Trumans father "killed" to create a deep trauma and a fear of water, resulting in Truman even being afraid of crossing a bridge. He openly admits to psychologically torturing Truman to keep him in his prison. What isn't said and what I wouldn't be surprised about is if they created some incidents afterwards to reinforce that trauma. Maybe even put Truman in a room with a fake therapist who reinforces that trauma.
So in other words, at some point the whole world watched a kid being traumatized on live TV and everyone had been ok with it.
In phantom of the opera, the actress playing Christine was only 17 while Raoul was 30 and the Phantom was 34. She very passionately made out with both of them in the making of the movie. The age gap is the same in the story too.
17 is an adult, was considered almost a spinster already at the time of the setting.
The complaint for revenge of the nerds is also true for The Truman Show
Imagine having to edit that video every time a major event happens, especially if it’s an emergency. It’s a no for me, dawg😂
I don't think that Beetlejuice one was different than we thought. I think it was in character and the film was pretty open about it. It was funny, but also awful -- but then it was a different time. Remember, he was supposed to be evil and despicable.
There was a time when a good percentage of all marriages were with teenage girls. Of course things are different now -- people take an extra 15 years to grow up now. Just saying.
The other thing is that apostrophe at 6:43 -- really?
Rachel was a replicant and therefore had no rights, including body autonomy.
Taika Watiti is a brilliant film maker?
That surprized me too
Not bad except for Blade Runner assesment. You should rewatch their interaction and remember the context of why she was there, and what her psycological struggle was. It wasn't that she had an issue with him, she didn't feel real. And all of her memories were fake. He told her exactly what he wanted, and she did it because she wanted it too. She didn't say "I can't" - she says "I can’t rely on my memory to.." and he repeats himself. There was never a 'No", just real human interaction and passion.
Number 4 was so funny 😂 especially with how Jules says it...
Blade Runner - yeah that scene is tough. I think the idea, as conceived, was that she was denying her feelings for Deckard because she was reeling from learning that she was a replicant, and was thinking that nothing she experienced was real. Deckard wasn't having that and pushed the issue. As filmed, however, it comes across rougher and angrier than intended in part because Ford didn't like the actress. At all. She's always been a little crazy and he's always been grumpy, so...
Beetlejuice marrying a teenager = illegal. But does it? Does a ghost marrying anyone have precedence in law at all?
They did Revenge of the Nerds on Robot Chicken. Needless to say it didn't end well for the nerds.
"pure brilliance" used to describe a Thor movie....how many attempts did it take to get that out without laughing?
I guess everyone really does ignore all The Matrix sequels and supplemental media. It turns out that everyone is making a choice at the subconscious level to support or rebel against the system. The people, who are also actively trying to fight Neo as enemy combatants, by the way, have chosen to be part of the fight on that side. Neo is fighting to force the system to allow the rebels to leave without causing the future wars and fighting, which would actually save far more lives on both sides in the long run.
The fact that we live in a society where people say things “while I am not here IN ANYWAY to cast shade over sex workers” before making any comment about prostitution really shows how bad things are. Prostitution is a bad thing, What Culture. It’s okay to say that. In fact, it’s necessary to say that, because there may be a young girl watching this video who now has the impression that it’s perfectly fine for her to become a prostitution one day. Wake up!
Carolyn was the real villain in presumed innocent.
Not everyone in the Matrix was human, and the second film went some ways in explaining this, primarily through introduction of MANY characters who weren't human. The security guards, soldiers, and swat police at the agent HQ were quite likely lesser machines, like weaker models of the agents.
As messed up as it its the nerds one is Realistic esp for the 60/70/80/90s
I just watched Beetlejuice again for the first time in years and thought the EXACT same thing😂.
If you think Beetlejuice is inappropriate because Lydia isn't 18 you should look into the marriage laws of a good handful of American states.
Beetlejuice was attempting to marry Lydia without her consent and without the consent of her parents. In the case of underage marriages, the parents would need to consent to the marriage in order for the marriage to be valid.
The marriage wouldn’t have been valid anyway because the dead have no legal standing in the laws of the living world. Even if the afterlife could accept marriage between the living and the dead...such a marriage is completely illegal in the part of the living world where the film was set.
Porky's and Revenge of the Nerds couldn't be made today.
16 Candles
Beetlejuice is a ghost, and an evil one at that. Not sure you can assign mortal human morality to him.
As disgusting as it may be, What Louis did in Revenge of the nerds actually was not a crime in the united states where the film was based.
At least in California, it has been a crime since 1872 if the victim is married and you impersonate the husband.
@@AltonV the person has to be the one to press charges in that case though. Since she seems to not care, not be pursuing charges, that means it isn't technically a crime.
@@elizabethbaird2132 That's not how committing crimes works.
She just consented to a random anonymous guy in a mask.
Proving deception charge would be a tall order.
@@Conserpov no, she consented to her boyfriend
Lydia was a "teenager" - so that means anywhere between 13 and 19 .. and the US legal age for marriage is, in many places, 14+
Most people agree that she was actually 16 in the movie, so ... there was absolutely nothing wrong with her getting married.
the whole point of forrest gump was that his life was symbolic of america growing up and pointing out it's changes. ofc there are going to be moments like that one you are deriding.
Forrest is America the ideal, Jenny is America the real.
And no one that I know thought that scene in the Nerds was above bar. It was f'd up the 1st time I saw it. And I was a kid.
Atta boy Skullnick!
Yeah I remember seeing revenge of the nerds when I was younger and being shocked by that scene.
It's all funny and fine up until that point and then they just trick a girl into sleeping with them by pretending to be her boyfriend in costume. Even in the 80's I can't believe that was okay to make light of.
Ok regarding Revenge of the Nerds, she must have known, I mean is she really not gonna notice the diference between the body of a jock and a scrawny nerd.
she knew she even looked at him when he was scared like big dummy I knew it was you and then kissed him. She had been fed up with her boyfriend for the whole movie. She removed the mask like look it was fun but you dont have to hide I like you. She was trying to take the mask off gently several times. I never interpret that scene like people online do and it makes me worry about the people online who view it this way.
Rocky forces himself onto Adrian in the 1st Rocky.
Adrian forces Rocky to fight, even if he gets brain damage. All she cares about is money 😂 funny how you can make anything freaky.
Hence the word demented. Now mind you it was only 50 years ago and I would never condone this, but you can merry a teenager.
#1: See also, Sixteen Candles and, to a lesser degree, The Breakfast Club.