I enjoyed the video. I have been researching information about the Mach 1 and the mustang models in general. Car dealerships really need to step their car review game up.
That is for sure. Typically they will use reviews like mine on their websites but your best bet is to watch as many reviews as you can to collect data and go to the forums to get additional details
I have a sneaking feeling that Lauren will have 10x the amount of subscribers in a couple of years so we all should be grateful that she takes the time to respond to almost every comment here. Just remember some of us little people when you hit 500k and weed thru the comments and reply to us who were with you from the very start lol.
Excellent review. I ordered a fully loaded Mach 1 (Appearance Package /Handling Package 10 Speed Auto etc.) from Ford in March. And took delivery in late July. I have owned two Mustangs already, a 2009 (six banger) and a 2012 GT (modified). I traded the 2012 for the Mach 1. So I have had some previous experience with the Mustang. Anyway, after watching the your review, I agree with your ratings. One thing I think I do disagree with you on is the need for a shaker hood which the originals (69 and 70 as well as the 2003) had. I see no need for it, other then aesthetics that is, based on the engine configuration. But that's my personal opinion. As for handling, the car is superb. Around town I keep it in normal mode (well, except for the exhaust note and steering that is). On the highway, Sport + or even better, Track. I only experienced the issues you spoke about during the break in period. Track mode on the highway is like driving on rails for me. The biggest down fall, and it is to be expected, is that the car drinks gas. It is a small price to pay for the pleasure of owning a 2021 Mach 1.
Great unbiased review Lauren ! I'd love to see your take on the Mach 1 most people will be buying, the non HP model, to see if it's a better buy than the "standard" GT PP1. cheers, tom
I had purchased a 1969 Mach1 428 SCJ ( Brand New ) wish I still had it. I enjoyed the very in depth review of this amazing car. I agree whole heartedly about the hood scoop, mine was a shaker hood that caught many an eye. If I had the money I would not hesitate to get another one albeit a six speed.
@@CarCoachReports My 6.7 brother Chuckie owns a 20 GT automatic, and it runs 12 flat out of the box at 120. That's smokin. The 10 speed auto is quicker. But automatics are usually quicker in most qtr mile applications. Wish I could shift for myself. If I had the leg room and fit inside, I could.
Very good and comprehensive review. For the heritage look you could argue it needs that hood scoop but it doesn't do anything to improve the performance.
It would be even cooler if they made it functional. Either way the car looks great. Just trying to focus on those iconic heritage lines that are not on the Mach 1.
When they use the 10 speed automatic it automatically can´t be the best review. You pay a lot of money to get the tremec gearbox. If yoou choose the automatic transmission you pay all that extra money to get the same kind of transmission you would get in a standard GT.
Sadly the automatic transmission shifts way too much. Its always seeking a fuel efficient way, with a manual you put the power where you want it. I hate all the nannies they put on these new cars of every brand.
Just ordered my 2022 model with all the trimmings. Trading in my 2017 Mustang GT with performance 1 package, Roush exhaust and deletes with tinted windows.
I think this is the best “all around” mustang for the street and track! If you get the performance package,which i would,i would get a different set of tires for street use,as the Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2s will wear out very quickly due to their softer compound and they are not all-season/wet weather tires! I would also get the Tremec 6-speed manual transmission and the Recaro seats in leather! I would also get it in the fighter-jet grey color!
The hood scoop was not on the first Mach 1's, later it was an option. The only time it was standard on the Mach 1 was 20023-04. The cheif engineer said it was not put on the new Mach 1 because it would not improved performance.
will be interesting what the S650 and beyond brings for the pony car. It might be a part bins special, but if future mustangs go electric/automatic, this could be the very last of a special car to own on the S550 chassis.
The factory street alignment tramlines like MAD, anddestroys front tires in 4000kms, HORRIBLE toe setting. Inside shoulder wore down to the cords. The dealership comped me a new set of cup2's, but told me theyd see me in another 4000kms when id be back for another set.
The handling package was originally a 6-speed only option but Ford offered the auto trans with it shortly after the Mach 1 was released due to apparent demand.
So basically a GT PP jacked up 10k for a body kit and hood decals. And I thought the Bullitt was the epitome of gouging. If I’m paying that much then it better have a functional hood scoop instead of kiddie hood stickers.
With 305s up front, you are tram lining all day no matter what setting you put it on unless you have the most pristine roads where you live. In other words don’t leave your driveway and it shouldn’t be an issue.
True. Tram lining is caused by the wide tires and changing the steering resistance changes nothing. It’s electric steering and has no effect on steering performance. It only adds resistance.
My first time on this channel, so I might be out of the loop, but is it an in-joke that you always say "it earns a " but it rarely fits what the graphics show? Anyways, good job on the actual in-depth review. These are kinda rare and therefore very welcome.
That was my lovely editor not listening to the rating. What I say is accurate. The Mach 1 was a fun ride, just don't use the track setup on the daily drive.
I saw a Jet Fighter Gray Mach 1 in person a couple of weeks ago. In pictures, I didn't dig it, but in person it actually looks better than the pictures. It's a different type of gray than your traditional boring gray on all other non-performance mainstream cars. The Mach 1 is cool. I think it should have at least 500-510hp and 406-416lb-ft of torque to be the true middleground car of the Bullitt, Shelby GT350/GT350R, and Shelby GT500. Running the same performance specs as the Bullitt is a bit of a let down and would seem like it would be more of a Performance Pack Level 3 (if they had named it that) versus a Mach 1. Manual is the only way to go driving these cars. No ifs ands or buts about it. That being said, I think the world is ready to see what the S650 gen Mustang is going to bring to the table. Rumored intel was brought out months ago that the Mustang might finally get a 4-door muscle sedan version to finally battle the Charger. Ford has not confirmed that nor deny that either. If that turns out to be true, it would bring some much needed fresh air to the 4-door competition sport sedan segment because let's be real here. The Charger is overrated and although it sells, it doesn't come with a manual like the Challenger has which is a let down and people are tired of it being the only game in class where Chevy and Ford have nothing to give any competition to Dodge with the Charger. [Side Note: There was the Chevrolet SS Sedan which I actually own and which is technically a Holden (VF1 and VF2) Commodore from Australia, but now that Holden is out of production in Australia and the Chevrolet SS Sedan was just a 4 year and 3-month limited production run with no advertisement on the car which was poor marketing on GM beancounters, the only 4-door sedan the Charger Hellcat/Hellcat Redeye would give compete with is the CT5-V Blackwing that's on the way. Yes, while the CT5-V Blackwing will be down on power compared to the Charger Hellcat and Charger Hellcat Redeye, it will definitely holds it own even at its starting price $84,990 for the CT5-V Blackwing and unlike the Charger Hellcat and Hellcat Redeye, Cadillac offers that car with a 6-speed manual and I would take the CT5-V Blackwing paired with a 6-speed manual over any Charger tenfold.] Back to the Mustang, with the S550 gen the end of its life cycle, it's time to see what the S650 gen Mustang will bring to the table. If a 4-door Mustang sedan comes to fruition, it will definitely help with the sales of the Mustang nameplate alongside the traditional 2-door Mustang potentially giving Dodge something to worry about. A 4-door Mustang sedan with a 6-speed manual or maybe even upgrade the 6-speed manual to a 7-speed manual (like the Porsche 911s, C7 Corvettes, and Aston Martin Vantages have), offer 4-door Mustang Shelby models like the 2-door Shelby GT350s, GT350R's and GT500s, and instead of calling it just a Mustang, call it a Mustang 'Falcon,' paying homage to the Australian Ford Falcon nameplate and I guarantee that a Mustang Falcon and Mustang Falcon Shelby will certainly get the attention of Dodge and Mopar owners and fans as well as Mustang and Shelby owners and fans without a doubt. 🤞🏽crossed the 4-door Mustang sedan becomes a reality for the S650 gen to take on the Charger once and for all.
I hope they don’t make a four-door sedan. That would make the Mustang enthusiasts very unhappy. In addition Ford is not making any sedans at this time other than the Mustang. And it looks like no more manual transmission either. 😕 I like how you’re thinking but I don’t think Ford‘s thinking the same way. Last I heard they were talking about making the Mustang all electric. I hope not or I won’t buy another.
@@CarCoachReports I respect your opinion on not wanting a 4-door Mustang. You're right that Ford said they were done with sedans (and hatchbacks). We can both agree that's because the foreign automakers (Toyota, Honda, Hyundai, Kia, Mazda, Subaru, Nissan, Volkswagen Lexus, Acura, Genesis, Cadillac, Infiniti, Audi, BMW, and Mercedes-Benz, and Porsche) all decimated Ford/Lincoln, Chevrolet, and Chrysler. Dodge is just hanging on because the Charger is popular, but being built in Canada, the only true "domestic" sedans that gets respect is Cadillac's CT4/CT4-V/CT4-V Blackwing and CT5/CT5-V/CT5-V Blackwing because obviously is doing something right. Back on the Mustang, it would suck if the manual transmission is lost for the S650 gen. Will it even be a Mustang anymore without it? Look at what Tadge Juechter of GM did to the C8 Corvette and infuriated the Corvette community after the C7 Corvettes. No manual in the C8s. And the C8s keep getting halted on and off and it's not even about the semiconductor chips for them. It would be very weird to hear about a Corvette generation becoming a bust at the end of the C8's life cycle. I'm sure you seen the pictures of an S550 gen Mustang having a manual transmission without an engine in it. It was posted last year virtually if I remember correctly. That said, I did hear something different. I heard the S650 Mustangs will remain gas-only, but one model might get paired with a mild hybrid setup for its next generation. However, after the S650 gen Mustangs, then just like what you heard, that's when it's been said it will go full EV in 2029 as a 2030 model year. By then, the Mustang will no longer be a Mustang with all of those batteries making it far too heavy than an internal combustion engine vehicle is. All of these EVs are beyond annoying. I can't imagine an engine-powered Mustang going from 3,532-3,825lbs to double the weight with EV batteries galore. I don't mean that in a good way at all.
These are my feelings exactly. However when it comes to city and no one is really selling many of them and city and sales across the globe have dropped off dramatically. This is why many brands have reduced their selection and you’re starting to see this even with the German product. As for the mustang I have heard the same thing. There’s a lot of angry people in the Mustang and Shelby club who do not want to on electric vehicles if they did they would buy one. There are some people who have bought the Mach e, i’m not interested in that at all. And many people that are true current easiest or not. Either way manufactures are being pressured by the government to produce electric cars whether we want them or not. They have tried tax incentives which have not worked. This only helps the wealthy people purchase these vehicles and the average person cannot afford to sell their vehicle for the increased insurance costs, charging costs and the vehicle car payment in addition to increase taxes. I’ve already expressed my concerns to Ford motor company as high as I can go which is pretty high. They are well aware that if they remove the combustion engine as well as the manual transmission people will look elsewhere and that includes me. Porsche tried this at one point, and guess what happened they are now offering manual transmissions again. Not sure why GM did the switch to the paddle shift. But it’s certainly not in the spirit of what Corvette is all about.
If I may, let me ask you one extra question. I know you like Ford (as do I), but consider this scenario. I'm looking at a Mach 1 (A10, non handling pack) which at MSRP comes in around $58K. A '22 ZL1 (with A10) as I'd spec it probably has an MSRP of about $68K. Let's say the real world purchase price difference is somewhere between 7-10K more for the ZL1. Assuming the difference wouldn't materially hurt one's finances, would you spring for the ZL1 in this scenario? Maybe another way to think about it is, if of these two and without agonizing too much over the $'s difference, it woud be your only sports car to drive for the next 5+ years, which one? I've only briefly driven the ZL1 and was impressed by it's stunning acceleration, but not enough seat time to really consider daily life with it vs a mustang, etc. etc. Thanks for your time.
Honestly, both cars are amazing in performance. However, the seating is so uncomfortable in the Camaro and the limited visibility I’d buy the Mustang. The ZL1 may have a higher resale value, but you have to live with the car for 5 years. Yikes.
Lauren, great video. Sold my manual 991.2 GT3 at a huge profit. Cannot get a 992 GT3 so considering a manual Mach 1 for 1/4 of the price. I like the looks of the track pkg but I wont ever track it. Will I like the plain vanilla Mach 1 6 speed? Will this be a total let down from my 991.2 GT3? My dealer will order me a Mach 1 at MSRP. THANKS
This will be a total let down. I'm selling my Audi RS5 to buy a 991.2 GT3. I understood why you sold it, but this will not make you happy. Buy a GT500 it's like a GT2, a beast. This car is a starter sports car
I had a new 2014 GT500. It was too fast, powerful, wild for me. The GT3 felt much safer at high speeds but +$25K profit after two years was hard to pass up. I have had 7 new Mustangs in my 70 years and have no plans to track anymore. Most cars are impossible to get now at Sticker, ie, C8. The dealer I bought the 2014 Shelby GT500 is offering me the Mach 1 via a new car order for sticker. I ll put everything on it. Debating manual vs automatic. The Mach 1 in that Jet Fighter color appeals to my eyes. I am estimating a 2-3 year ownership until this economy normalizes and I can get a 992.2 GT3 or Turbo S. The Mach 1 may be a fun car to placate me. You seemed to enjoy it in your above video. Of the 20 plus video reviews on the Mach One I viewed, yours was the BEST AND MOST INFORMATIVE. I subscribed. Keep up the great reviews!
I wouldn’t put all season tires on a performance car. Get winter tires if you’re going to drive it through the winter and keep the Michelin‘s on during the summer
The Mach 1 HP is a GT350R with a Coyote 5.0. And you also get more tech. If you want a different exhaust note, and the Shelby name plate, get a GT350/R. Otherwise, the M1 HP is the best naturally-aspirated S550 Mustang ever made (performance).
@@CarCoachReports I have to admit I like that look better myself on the originals, but have you seen them on the newer ones? It doesn't do as much for them. I don't know what I was expecting from the shaker hood look on these new models, but I thought it was going to set it off, like a set of nice wheels would, but nope ... maybe it'll grow on me
Mach 1 with handling pack has adjustable struts. Your tram lining is either the result of negative camber from the struts adjusted or bad tire wear (since this is a review car), not from having 305s in the front. Also, you incorrectly stated that the air vents above the splitter are not functional. In fact both sides of the vehicle are function. Also the plastic pieces on both sides of the Mustang logo are removable to add airflow to radiator on track days. Comments suggesting this is an overpriced GT PP2 are unaware of the additions Ford made to the Mach 1 including all the added coolers, lighter (by 2 lbs) and stronger wheels, plus additional 150lbs of downforce from the larger front splitter and rear gurney flap.
2021- 6,323 8.28% of all mustangs sold 2022- 6,137 7.22% of all mustangs sold 2023- ? This is about half a year when the numbers are released since production has stopped for them around June I believe.
Do you think the Mach 1 is better than the Bullitt? I love my Bullitt but the only thing that might be better is the manual in the Mach 1 but that’s not worth trading for in my opinion. I don’t track my Bullitt and it seemed the best fit for my taste which is just cruising backroads and as a daily driver. Do you agree?
@@CarCoachReports We agree about Ford having gas models. My point though is that I do not see a reincarnation of the GT350 in a gasoline combustion version. Then again, Mustang enthusiasts would go haywire if the 5.2L Voodoo made a return.
I know for sure if Ford can sell the GT350 they will make it. They have done this is in the past, they will return the Shelby name with a GT350. Look at the pattern of the past vehicles. If they go all EV on the Mustang, I’m out. I will never buy another Mustang ever. We collect and restore old Shelby’s and Mustangs. They will lose their buyers.
@@CarCoachReports I am TOTALLY with you on this. When Ford went on its 90's international brand buying binge, they acquired a lot of brilliant minds from the new technology arena. I am under the impression that these "green beans" are dominating the discussion in Ford's executive wing. Ford has been, and should always be, a name synonymous with high performance gasoline engines. As you said, if they ever lay the gas operated Mustang to rest, then Ford would be done. Truthfully speaking tho, the days of affordable naturally aspirated muscle appear to be fading. smh
Ok let’s get things straightened out. Those fake fog lights can be removed. The drivers side has a tube that feeds into the CAI. Those wheels are not black. They are carbonized gray and are gloss . Those vents are for the trans and engine cooler . Plus rear diff cooler in the rear defused. Dodge doesn’t build a track car period. Chevy relies on a push rod engine with a wimpy 6500 red line. The mach 1 red line is 7400. Your review was kind of lame.
you notice she is forever correcting the steering wheel keeping this junk in a straight line..this one reason alone is enough to never own any s550. having owned one for a year i despized that car.
@@CarCoachReports junk cars end of story. i owned one for a year. coz it's new folk think it's gonna be better. the s550 platform is shite. the alpha platform on the camaro is light years ahed of this junk. how does holding the steering wheel at 120 mph sound lol. the s550 would be all over the road at those speeds
I daily drive my 22 Mach 1. Couldn't be happier. It's an amazing vehicle.
Great review!
Nice review overall. Very informative
Great review...good job!
Thank you!
Great job, Lauren!!!
Thank you
Dam I wish I could afford one. Love the sound of an American v8
So true, better than the radio
I said that 5 years ago before I was able to buy one. You can do it. Was worth every second of waiting for one.
Nice review
Thank you
Well done. I really liked your review. I am waiting for my 21 GT Performance pack to arrive. Order it a few months ago. Thanks Tom and Kelly.
You will be very happy with your new car, it will be worth the wait.
Good video.
Got one and I love it. I had a 69 Mach 1 many years ago. I Mustangs, but the Mach 1 is my favorite of all the Mustangs.
Did the 69 come with a Shaker hood? That seems to be the argument nowadays for us youngsters🤔
@@mikehughes8023 My 69 Mach 1 was just the 390 version, without shaker hood scoop.
@@mikehughes8023 IMO the current Mach 1 does not need a hood scoop.
I enjoyed the video. I have been researching information about the Mach 1 and the mustang models in general. Car dealerships really need to step their car review game up.
That is for sure. Typically they will use reviews like mine on their websites but your best bet is to watch as many reviews as you can to collect data and go to the forums to get additional details
Looks like a good balance of a track car and an every day road car,depending on what settings you have the steering,suspension and exhaust in!
That is true - it's a great balance.
I pick mine up tomorrow! Same car just a 2022
I have a sneaking feeling that Lauren will have 10x the amount of subscribers in a couple of years so we all should be grateful that she takes the time to respond to almost every comment here. Just remember some of us little people when you hit 500k and weed thru the comments and reply to us who were with you from the very start lol.
Excellent review. I ordered a fully loaded Mach 1 (Appearance Package /Handling Package 10 Speed Auto etc.) from Ford in March. And took delivery in late July. I have owned two Mustangs already, a 2009 (six banger) and a 2012 GT (modified). I traded the 2012 for the Mach 1. So I have had some previous experience with the Mustang. Anyway, after watching the your review, I agree with your ratings. One thing I think I do disagree with you on is the need for a shaker hood which the originals (69 and 70 as well as the 2003) had. I see no need for it, other then aesthetics that is, based on the engine configuration. But that's my personal opinion. As for handling, the car is superb. Around town I keep it in normal mode (well, except for the exhaust note and steering that is). On the highway, Sport + or even better, Track. I only experienced the issues you spoke about during the break in period. Track mode on the highway is like driving on rails for me. The biggest down fall, and it is to be expected, is that the car drinks gas. It is a small price to pay for the pleasure of owning a 2021 Mach 1.
You’re going to love this vehicle
Great unbiased review Lauren ! I'd love to see your take on the Mach 1 most people will be buying, the non HP model, to see if it's a better buy than the "standard" GT PP1. cheers, tom
I’ll ask Ford to send one. Thank you! 😊
@@CarCoachReports Agreed with the Tremec, I drove the non HP with Tremec and it was special on the street 😎
I had purchased a 1969 Mach1 428 SCJ ( Brand New ) wish I still had it. I enjoyed the very in depth review of this amazing car. I agree whole heartedly about the hood scoop, mine was a shaker hood that caught many an eye. If I had the money I would not hesitate to get another one albeit a six speed.
I had a 69 Mach 1 390. I put a Tri-Power set up on it. It was great fun and my 21 Mach 1 is even more fun.
Awesome! Enjoy the Mach 1 - great car!
Great review, Lauren! 10 all the way.
Thank you! 😊
@@CarCoachReports My 6.7 brother Chuckie owns a 20 GT automatic, and it runs 12 flat out of the box at 120. That's smokin. The 10 speed auto is quicker. But automatics are usually quicker in most qtr mile applications. Wish I could shift for myself. If I had the leg room and fit inside, I could.
Gear car
Very good and comprehensive review. For the heritage look you could argue it needs that hood scoop but it doesn't do anything to improve the performance.
It would be even cooler if they made it functional. Either way the car looks great. Just trying to focus on those iconic heritage lines that are not on the Mach 1.
Damn this the best review, period
Wow thank you!
When they use the 10 speed automatic it automatically can´t be the best review. You pay a lot of money to get the tremec gearbox. If yoou choose the automatic transmission you pay all that extra money to get the same kind of transmission you would get in a standard GT.
Sadly the automatic transmission shifts way too much. Its always seeking a fuel efficient way, with a manual you put the power where you want it. I hate all the nannies they put on these new cars of every brand.
Collecting mine Tuesday :)
idiot. will be junk
buy 1le camaro and own a proper sports car.
Just ordered my 2022 model with all the trimmings. Trading in my 2017 Mustang GT with performance 1 package, Roush exhaust and deletes with tinted windows.
Enjoy the Mach 1
I think this is the best “all around” mustang for the street and track! If you get the performance package,which i would,i would get a different set of tires for street use,as the Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2s will wear out very quickly due to their softer compound and they are not all-season/wet weather tires! I would also get the Tremec 6-speed manual transmission and the Recaro seats in leather! I would also get it in the fighter-jet grey color!
The hood scoop was not on the first Mach 1's, later it was an option. The only time it was standard on the Mach 1 was 20023-04. The cheif engineer said it was not put on the new Mach 1 because it would not improved performance.
I have the six speed 🤩, thanks for reviewing the Mach 1
Smart choice -
will be interesting what the S650 and beyond brings for the pony car. It might be a part bins special, but if future mustangs go electric/automatic, this could be the very last of a special car to own on the S550 chassis.
You own a GT 350R Heritage Edition! 😍🔥🔥🔥
I’m a Shelby lover. Thanks for noticing
Ordered one in white!
Very cool
My kinda Car!
oh yeah and of course test it with the Tremac.
Lauren, which mustang do you think has the best drivability to you. That includes the HPP Ecoboost
What a machine!! How's the leg room i am 6 foot 7? Thanks
Ricaro seats are only an option for the manual?
The shaker hood was an option for 69-70 not standard
Does putting the drive setting on comfort eliminate tramlining? Does tramlining exist in the non~ handling package Mach 1?
Always wanted a 71-73 Mach 1, yellow with black stripes and louvers.
That’s what I just bought GrabHer Yellow with black stripe kit
Hey Lauren - Your perspective on the Mach 1 Vs Bullitt. Thanks
Sure thing! The Mach 1 looks great and handles well. Personally I like the Bullitt for resale value too.
Nice video review. Question for ya:
Camaro SS 1LE (with A10) or Mach 1 (with A10)? Did you get a chance to drive the non-HP Mach 1?
Try the Camaro LT1. it's an RS with a V8
Personally I prefer the Mach 1with the A10. There’s a lot more than just the performance, the Mustang offers more.
not sure it has wireless apply car play? My 23 Mach1 does not, unless i’m missing something? great review.
Wired for initial connection then it should be wireless
Stang all the way, I Luv mine 💯💪🙌 🇺🇸.
The factory street alignment tramlines like MAD, anddestroys front tires in 4000kms, HORRIBLE toe setting. Inside shoulder wore down to the cords. The dealership comped me a new set of cup2's, but told me theyd see me in another 4000kms when id be back for another set.
Was it just me or did the "Rates" gauge that popped up when rating a characteristic of the car show a different rating than was verbalized?
Now if you could find one on the dealers lot that didn't have the price jacked 10K over sticker
How did you like the 10 speed in this …? What would you recommend a 10 auto or the Mexican Tremec…?
I prefer the Tremec, great transmission, the auto shifts too much.
How did you get a handling package car with the 10- speed auto? I thought the handling pack was a 6 speed only option?
Ford sent it to me to review, it is available like my test car. You will have to order it.
The handling package was originally a 6-speed only option but Ford offered the auto trans with it shortly after the Mach 1 was released due to apparent demand.
"to me the audio is the exhaust note" Lauren Fix
I owned a 2019 Bullitt, but returned it under the lemon law. I like the Mach1, but I'm hesitant.
I understand. Buy a used one and you will most likely have better luck and save money.
🔥🏎️
So basically a GT PP jacked up 10k for a body kit and hood decals. And I thought the Bullitt was the epitome of gouging. If I’m paying that much then it better have a functional hood scoop instead of kiddie hood stickers.
YES! I agree!
With 305s up front, you are tram lining all day no matter what setting you put it on unless you have the most pristine roads where you live. In other words don’t leave your driveway and it shouldn’t be an issue.
Lol - that is true. In the track settings its aggressive. And YES, NYS roads really suck.
True. Tram lining is caused by the wide tires and changing the steering resistance changes nothing. It’s electric steering and has no effect on steering performance. It only adds resistance.
My first time on this channel, so I might be out of the loop, but is it an in-joke that you always say "it earns a " but it rarely fits what the graphics show?
Anyways, good job on the actual in-depth review. These are kinda rare and therefore very welcome.
That was my lovely editor not listening to the rating. What I say is accurate. The Mach 1 was a fun ride, just don't use the track setup on the daily drive.
@@CarCoachReports Yeah, just lovely! :D
Thanks for clarifying... I figured what you say goes and it means the rating is higher this way.
Steering setting won’t change the tramlining
I saw a Jet Fighter Gray Mach 1 in person a couple of weeks ago. In pictures, I didn't dig it, but in person it actually looks better than the pictures. It's a different type of gray than your traditional boring gray on all other non-performance mainstream cars.
The Mach 1 is cool. I think it should have at least 500-510hp and 406-416lb-ft of torque to be the true middleground car of the Bullitt, Shelby GT350/GT350R, and Shelby GT500. Running the same performance specs as the Bullitt is a bit of a let down and would seem like it would be more of a Performance Pack Level 3 (if they had named it that) versus a Mach 1.
Manual is the only way to go driving these cars. No ifs ands or buts about it. That being said, I think the world is ready to see what the S650 gen Mustang is going to bring to the table. Rumored intel was brought out months ago that the Mustang might finally get a 4-door muscle sedan version to finally battle the Charger. Ford has not confirmed that nor deny that either. If that turns out to be true, it would bring some much needed fresh air to the 4-door competition sport sedan segment because let's be real here. The Charger is overrated and although it sells, it doesn't come with a manual like the Challenger has which is a let down and people are tired of it being the only game in class where Chevy and Ford have nothing to give any competition to Dodge with the Charger.
[Side Note: There was the Chevrolet SS Sedan which I actually own and which is technically a Holden (VF1 and VF2) Commodore from Australia, but now that Holden is out of production in Australia and the Chevrolet SS Sedan was just a 4 year and 3-month limited production run with no advertisement on the car which was poor marketing on GM beancounters, the only 4-door sedan the Charger Hellcat/Hellcat Redeye would give compete with is the CT5-V Blackwing that's on the way. Yes, while the CT5-V Blackwing will be down on power compared to the Charger Hellcat and Charger Hellcat Redeye, it will definitely holds it own even at its starting price $84,990 for the CT5-V Blackwing and unlike the Charger Hellcat and Hellcat Redeye, Cadillac offers that car with a 6-speed manual and I would take the CT5-V Blackwing paired with a 6-speed manual over any Charger tenfold.]
Back to the Mustang, with the S550 gen the end of its life cycle, it's time to see what the S650 gen Mustang will bring to the table. If a 4-door Mustang sedan comes to fruition, it will definitely help with the sales of the Mustang nameplate alongside the traditional 2-door Mustang potentially giving Dodge something to worry about. A 4-door Mustang sedan with a 6-speed manual or maybe even upgrade the 6-speed manual to a 7-speed manual (like the Porsche 911s, C7 Corvettes, and Aston Martin Vantages have), offer 4-door Mustang Shelby models like the 2-door Shelby GT350s, GT350R's and GT500s, and instead of calling it just a Mustang, call it a Mustang 'Falcon,' paying homage to the Australian Ford Falcon nameplate and I guarantee that a Mustang Falcon and Mustang Falcon Shelby will certainly get the attention of Dodge and Mopar owners and fans as well as Mustang and Shelby owners and fans without a doubt. 🤞🏽crossed the 4-door Mustang sedan becomes a reality for the S650 gen to take on the Charger once and for all.
I hope they don’t make a four-door sedan. That would make the Mustang enthusiasts very unhappy. In addition Ford is not making any sedans at this time other than the Mustang. And it looks like no more manual transmission either. 😕 I like how you’re thinking but I don’t think Ford‘s thinking the same way. Last I heard they were talking about making the Mustang all electric. I hope not or I won’t buy another.
@@CarCoachReports I respect your opinion on not wanting a 4-door Mustang. You're right that Ford said they were done with sedans (and hatchbacks). We can both agree that's because the foreign automakers (Toyota, Honda, Hyundai, Kia, Mazda, Subaru, Nissan, Volkswagen Lexus, Acura, Genesis, Cadillac, Infiniti, Audi, BMW, and Mercedes-Benz, and Porsche) all decimated Ford/Lincoln, Chevrolet, and Chrysler. Dodge is just hanging on because the Charger is popular, but being built in Canada, the only true "domestic" sedans that gets respect is Cadillac's CT4/CT4-V/CT4-V Blackwing and CT5/CT5-V/CT5-V Blackwing because obviously is doing something right.
Back on the Mustang, it would suck if the manual transmission is lost for the S650 gen. Will it even be a Mustang anymore without it? Look at what Tadge Juechter of GM did to the C8 Corvette and infuriated the Corvette community after the C7 Corvettes. No manual in the C8s. And the C8s keep getting halted on and off and it's not even about the semiconductor chips for them. It would be very weird to hear about a Corvette generation becoming a bust at the end of the C8's life cycle. I'm sure you seen the pictures of an S550 gen Mustang having a manual transmission without an engine in it. It was posted last year virtually if I remember correctly. That said, I did hear something different. I heard the S650 Mustangs will remain gas-only, but one model might get paired with a mild hybrid setup for its next generation. However, after the S650 gen Mustangs, then just like what you heard, that's when it's been said it will go full EV in 2029 as a 2030 model year. By then, the Mustang will no longer be a Mustang with all of those batteries making it far too heavy than an internal combustion engine vehicle is. All of these EVs are beyond annoying. I can't imagine an engine-powered Mustang going from 3,532-3,825lbs to double the weight with EV batteries galore. I don't mean that in a good way at all.
These are my feelings exactly. However when it comes to city and no one is really selling many of them and city and sales across the globe have dropped off dramatically. This is why many brands have reduced their selection and you’re starting to see this even with the German product.
As for the mustang I have heard the same thing. There’s a lot of angry people in the Mustang and Shelby club who do not want to on electric vehicles if they did they would buy one. There are some people who have bought the Mach e, i’m not interested in that at all. And many people that are true current easiest or not. Either way manufactures are being pressured by the government to produce electric cars whether we want them or not. They have tried tax incentives which have not worked. This only helps the wealthy people purchase these vehicles and the average person cannot afford to sell their vehicle for the increased insurance costs, charging costs and the vehicle car payment in addition to increase taxes.
I’ve already expressed my concerns to Ford motor company as high as I can go which is pretty high. They are well aware that if they remove the combustion engine as well as the manual transmission people will look elsewhere and that includes me.
Porsche tried this at one point, and guess what happened they are now offering manual transmissions again. Not sure why GM did the switch to the paddle shift. But it’s certainly not in the spirit of what Corvette is all about.
Beautiful car, wish it had a "Shaker" though.
I agree
If I may, let me ask you one extra question. I know you like Ford (as do I), but consider this scenario. I'm looking at a Mach 1 (A10, non handling pack) which at MSRP comes in around $58K. A '22 ZL1 (with A10) as I'd spec it probably has an MSRP of about $68K. Let's say the real world purchase price difference is somewhere between 7-10K more for the ZL1. Assuming the difference wouldn't materially hurt one's finances, would you spring for the ZL1 in this scenario? Maybe another way to think about it is, if of these two and without agonizing too much over the $'s difference, it woud be your only sports car to drive for the next 5+ years, which one? I've only briefly driven the ZL1 and was impressed by it's stunning acceleration, but not enough seat time to really consider daily life with it vs a mustang, etc. etc.
Thanks for your time.
Honestly, both cars are amazing in performance. However, the seating is so uncomfortable in the Camaro and the limited visibility I’d buy the Mustang. The ZL1 may have a higher resale value, but you have to live with the car for 5 years. Yikes.
@@CarCoachReports Thanks for the insight.
Lauren, great video. Sold my manual 991.2 GT3 at a huge profit. Cannot get a 992 GT3 so considering a manual Mach 1 for 1/4 of the price.
I like the looks of the track pkg but I wont ever track it. Will I like the plain vanilla Mach 1 6 speed?
Will this be a total let down from my 991.2 GT3? My dealer will order me a Mach 1 at MSRP.
THANKS
This will be a total let down. I'm selling my Audi RS5 to buy a 991.2 GT3. I understood why you sold it, but this will not make you happy. Buy a GT500 it's like a GT2, a beast. This car is a starter sports car
I had a new 2014 GT500. It was too fast, powerful, wild for me. The GT3 felt much safer at high speeds but +$25K profit after two years was hard to pass up.
I have had 7 new Mustangs in my 70 years and have no plans to track anymore. Most cars are impossible to get now at Sticker, ie, C8. The dealer I bought the 2014 Shelby GT500 is offering me the Mach 1 via a new car order for sticker. I ll put everything on it. Debating manual vs automatic. The Mach 1 in that Jet Fighter color appeals to my eyes. I am estimating a 2-3 year ownership until this economy normalizes and I can get a 992.2 GT3 or Turbo S. The Mach 1 may be a fun car to placate me. You seemed to enjoy it in your above video. Of the 20 plus video reviews on the Mach One I viewed, yours was the BEST AND MOST INFORMATIVE. I subscribed. Keep up the great reviews!
Get the handling pack with manual and you won’t have any regrets.
Agreed!!
Curious 🤔 What All Season Tires Would You Put On It ☺️
I wouldn’t put all season tires on a performance car. Get winter tires if you’re going to drive it through the winter and keep the Michelin‘s on during the summer
Is the performance of the Mach 1 practically the same as the Shelby GT350? What does the GT350 have over the Mach 1 other than a higher price?
The Mach 1 HP is a GT350R with a Coyote 5.0. And you also get more tech. If you want a different exhaust note, and the Shelby name plate, get a GT350/R. Otherwise, the M1 HP is the best naturally-aspirated S550 Mustang ever made (performance).
Good Job. Where did you come from?
I’m a Mustang / Shelby enthusiast and owner
How would you compare this with the Bullitt?(which I own)
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The Bullitt has power. The Mach 1 replace the PP2.
both junk.
s550 handling is aweful.
buy a gen6 camaro
@@isaachunt5799 Everyone knows Mustang dominated this generation.
There were Mach 1's from the first muscle car era that did not have a shaker hood. The shaker hood was not an original innovation for the Mach 1.
True in 1969, but the iconic look that most people know is with the shaker.
@@CarCoachReports
I have to admit I like that look better myself on the originals, but have you seen them on the newer ones? It doesn't do as much for them. I don't know what I was expecting from the shaker hood look on these new models, but I thought it was going to set it off, like a set of nice wheels would, but nope ... maybe it'll grow on me
Enough about the tram lines in track mode. I wouldn’t drive track mode on the street anyway.
Mach 1 with handling pack has adjustable struts. Your tram lining is either the result of negative camber from the struts adjusted or bad tire wear (since this is a review car), not from having 305s in the front. Also, you incorrectly stated that the air vents above the splitter are not functional. In fact both sides of the vehicle are function. Also the plastic pieces on both sides of the Mustang logo are removable to add airflow to radiator on track days. Comments suggesting this is an overpriced GT PP2 are unaware of the additions Ford made to the Mach 1 including all the added coolers, lighter (by 2 lbs) and stronger wheels, plus additional 150lbs of downforce from the larger front splitter and rear gurney flap.
Where you say you wish the seats had more comfort... do you mean the seats are not comfortable and you need the recaros or something else?
The Recaro’s have the best support. The standard seats need to be more comfortable.
@@CarCoachReports thanks! I'm wondering as my one is ordered with standard seats but need ones with the best lumber support
Love the car and driver. Both are sexy. Wish ford put more power in it though.
How many Mach1s are they going to make?
As many as they can sell
2021- 6,323
8.28% of all mustangs sold
2022- 6,137
7.22% of all mustangs sold
2023- ? This is about half a year when the numbers are released since production has stopped for them around June I believe.
Do you think the Mach 1 is better than the Bullitt? I love my Bullitt but the only thing that might be better is the manual in the Mach 1 but that’s not worth trading for in my opinion. I don’t track my Bullitt and it seemed the best fit for my taste which is just cruising backroads and as a daily driver. Do you agree?
That’s a personal decision. Drive one and how it compares.
Best review.Love the MACH 1. And you are HOT!!!
Im a little upset the shelby GT350 is not in production anymore 😭😭😭😭
I'm not, my resale value went up so much!!!
Mine too
Child seat might work if the child can see forward from the back.
Huh? You don't know if Ford is going to bring back the GT350? Lady, that model is gone forever in the gasoline version.
I have solid info that they are not getting rid of gas models or there sales will go away. Too much push back from buyers. I'm keeping my toys!
@@CarCoachReports We agree about Ford having gas models. My point though is that I do not see a reincarnation of the GT350 in a gasoline combustion version. Then again, Mustang enthusiasts would go haywire if the 5.2L Voodoo made a return.
I know for sure if Ford can sell the GT350 they will make it. They have done this is in the past, they will return the Shelby name with a GT350. Look at the pattern of the past vehicles. If they go all EV on the Mustang, I’m out. I will never buy another Mustang ever. We collect and restore old Shelby’s and Mustangs. They will lose their buyers.
@@CarCoachReports I am TOTALLY with you on this. When Ford went on its 90's international brand buying binge, they acquired a lot of brilliant minds from the new technology arena. I am under the impression that these "green beans" are dominating the discussion in Ford's executive wing. Ford has been, and should always be, a name synonymous with high performance gasoline engines. As you said, if they ever lay the gas operated Mustang to rest, then Ford would be done. Truthfully speaking tho, the days of affordable naturally aspirated muscle appear to be fading. smh
Why would ford offer this in a automatic?
I agree - they claim it shifts faster. I prefer 3-pedals
Ok let’s get things straightened out. Those fake fog lights can be removed. The drivers side has a tube that feeds into the CAI. Those wheels are not black. They are carbonized gray and are gloss . Those vents are for the trans and engine cooler . Plus rear diff cooler in the rear defused. Dodge doesn’t build a track car period. Chevy relies on a push rod engine with a wimpy 6500 red line. The mach 1 red line is 7400. Your review was kind of lame.
Quality of build 10 cmon I have one cheap plastic and fake leather never a 10 a german competitor is maybe a 10
You're a very bad lady, you wore out some tires...
Gorgeous lady
you notice she is forever correcting the steering wheel keeping this junk in a straight line..this one reason alone is enough to never own any s550. having owned one for a year i despized that car.
on the non HP set up , the road manners are actually very good.
Why
I explained in the video that the suspension was set up for a race track it was not set up for a street, that’s why it was tramlining.
@@CarCoachReports junk cars end of story. i owned one for a year.
coz it's new folk think it's gonna be better.
the s550 platform is shite. the alpha platform on the camaro is light years ahed of this junk.
how does holding the steering wheel at 120 mph sound lol. the s550 would be all over the road at those speeds
the s550 platform is shite.
the alpha platform is amazing
forget this ford crap and buy a gen6 camaro