Top Vs Bottom Bracing In The Deadlift

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  • čas přidán 26. 08. 2024

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  • @ThePowerClinic
    @ThePowerClinic Před 7 měsíci +32

    I stopped immediately mid-deadlift workout to watch this video. Tried it out and spontaneously PR’d by 95lbs. Probably gonna subscribe

    • @PRsPerformance
      @PRsPerformance  Před 7 měsíci +32

      Only 95lbs? Video was trash then

    • @strawberryyogurt0
      @strawberryyogurt0 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@PRsPerformance .. I’m going to piggyback on the user comment/your response, what does it mean if improving one’s technique simply doesn’t translate into increase poundage on the bar or more reps for the same weight? Sometimes it is kind of mentally defeating (but not really) when you read about someone (many) increasing their poundage by 50-lbs or whatever just by tweaking their technique. When I try implementing technique changes, my poundage never increase - the amount of weight I can push/pull is simply whatever it was/is before technique implementation.

  • @krzysztof-michalak
    @krzysztof-michalak Před 7 měsíci +3

    Thanks for another great video! For me, the need to set up quickly after a top brace has been a huge upside. I initially changed from a bottom to a top brace just to improve the effectiveness of my bracing, but over time it forced me to clean up the rest of my setup, which has made it more consistent and in turn let me better pinpoint other problems with my technique

    • @PRsPerformance
      @PRsPerformance  Před 7 měsíci +3

      Really good example of how where you brace does make a pretty big impact on setup as whole!

  • @cej3940
    @cej3940 Před měsícem +1

    I swear, your bracing before inhaling video was one of the main driving factors in me going from a 275lbs for 1 highbar to a 315lbs for 3 highbar in a 5 week program when I was stuck on 275lbs for almost a year
    While yes, I learned to dial back and focus more on getting sleep and stuff, solidifying the cueing and timing with the exhale-brace-inhale, it made me more confident and stable than the prior bracing I did

    • @PRsPerformance
      @PRsPerformance  Před měsícem +1

      That’s awesome to hear, congrats on the progress!

  • @JlopezcoachEFS
    @JlopezcoachEFS Před 7 měsíci +2

    Great video sir! I would add something for those who do top bracing and that is to do a full bracing but doing the inhale intensity lighter at the top to just not create full rigidity and prevent your upper body to reach the best position to grab the bar. And then when you are grabbing it, little hip raise and finish your inhale now to create the most rigidity and IAP you can!

    • @PRsPerformance
      @PRsPerformance  Před 7 měsíci

      I know of some people who do that, but I’d consider that a bottom brace, not a top brace.

    • @JlopezcoachEFS
      @JlopezcoachEFS Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@PRsPerformance as a concept, brace would be the exhalation process itself because it’s when you tighten your core and create tension. What you mean is breathing, not bracing, so what I explain is a top brace btw.

    • @PRsPerformance
      @PRsPerformance  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Not in the way I’m explaining it in this video. I’m considering the inhale the completion of the bracing process, and you are explaining completing that process at the bottom. So in this context it is a bottom brace, as you are not completing the full process of bracing until the bottom.

  • @bobabr0
    @bobabr0 Před 7 měsíci +3

    top brace FTW. top bracing forces me to keep my deadlift setup to be minimal and quick - prevents me from overthinking the setup and spending too much time at the bottom

  • @StephColbertsonStrength
    @StephColbertsonStrength Před 7 měsíci +1

    I’ve always been a top bracer. When I went through my hook grip phase it was difficult because of the time it took me to set my grip and holding that breath.

  • @Kalkschwarz
    @Kalkschwarz Před 5 měsíci +1

    Great video! I have trouble getting a good brace at the bottom, but I use straps for my lower volume deadlift sets. I guess I'm out of luck because there's no way I can inhale at the top and keep the breath while strapping in. The bulking-belly also doesn't help, like you mentioned.

    • @PRsPerformance
      @PRsPerformance  Před 5 měsíci

      Ya with straps you will have to brace at the bottom.

  • @champ1733
    @champ1733 Před 7 měsíci +1

    paused everything I am doing and it's time to learn!

  • @calebowen2006
    @calebowen2006 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Hopefully this saves my back. Ive been bottom bracing, improperly at that, on the later reps of multirep sets and it has caused me some nice back pain

    • @PRsPerformance
      @PRsPerformance  Před 7 měsíci +1

      It could possibly be that, or could possibly be some deterioration of positioning that is leading to over leveraging your lower back. Might also consider doing reset reps if that continues.

  • @nocifer
    @nocifer Před 7 měsíci +1

    Amazing video... I have 2 questions, though
    1. What about for people who use straps? Do you think setup time would make top bracing inefficient with them?
    2. Are there any ways you'd suggest to implement top bracing for stiff-legged deadlifts or RDLs?
    Just started going through your content and there're a lot of useful tips even for people who don't powerlift (like myself). Keep up the good work!

    • @PRsPerformance
      @PRsPerformance  Před 7 měsíci +3

      1.) it’s about impossible to top brace with straps, you will have to bottom brace
      2.) And for RDLs I’d almost always be bracing and doing your exhaling/inhaling at the top of each rep vs the bottom
      And thank you!

  • @seanjohnston848
    @seanjohnston848 Před 7 měsíci +4

    I do top bracing, but always wonder whether I should hold my breath dueing sets (say, 3-5 rep sets), or rebrace at the top. I always find it hard to get a good brace when holding the bar at the top. Can't really get as much air in obviously.
    What do you recommend for working sets thay aren't singles or doubles?

    • @PRsPerformance
      @PRsPerformance  Před 7 měsíci +4

      Exhale at the top and then re-inhale while letting the bar down. Or shift to bottom bracing after rep 1. Or reset reps so you can mimic your normal setup every time

    • @seanjohnston848
      @seanjohnston848 Před 7 měsíci

      @PRsPerformance Thanks. I've been doing the first option (taking more air in as I bring the bar down) somewhat instinctively. I'll try doing it more actively and see how it goes. I love your 3 step deadlift set-up by the way, has really helped speed up my setup and deadlift strength.

    • @kwfuller5848
      @kwfuller5848 Před 7 měsíci

      If you exhale at the top while holding the bar you are letting out the air that is supporting you while under load

    • @PRsPerformance
      @PRsPerformance  Před 7 měsíci

      There is a lot more supporting you than just the air you inhale. Aka why some people don’t even actively inhale and think about bracing on deadlift. Under that logic you have to hold your breath the whole time while squatting. No exhaling and then re-inhaling between reps at the top.

  • @michaelmitchell3440
    @michaelmitchell3440 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Thanks for covering this subject. When doing reps with conventional top-bracing, would you top-brace with the bar in hand or set the bar down, rise up, brace and pick the bar up again?

    • @PRsPerformance
      @PRsPerformance  Před 7 měsíci +2

      I personally almost kind of exhale at the top and then RE inhale as I lower the bar, but with reps its tough. Very well might have to somewhat bottom brace on those

    • @StephColbertsonStrength
      @StephColbertsonStrength Před 7 měsíci

      I top brace on my first rep. The rest I’m definitely re-bracing in the bottom. Even if I exhale at the top of the lift, the only way I’m holding that brace until the concentric of the next rep is if I really control the eccentric. And that’s just not how most people do comp deadlift reps.

  • @NayomiPennant
    @NayomiPennant Před 7 měsíci +1

    Thank you

  • @tagnaakinsa8721
    @tagnaakinsa8721 Před 10 dny +1

    How do you do this with high rep?

  • @richardsolorio5910
    @richardsolorio5910 Před 3 měsíci +1

    how does top bracing work during your training, when you do 2 or more reps?

    • @PRsPerformance
      @PRsPerformance  Před 3 měsíci

      See the other comments where I’ve answered this question

  • @bigredwhale
    @bigredwhale Před 7 měsíci +1

    Bracing at the top certainly feels better when done right (conventional mixed grip). However, with going through the setup more quickly, it often happens that I either over- or undergrip the bar which can lead to grip issues. Any way (others than just practicing) to prevent that?

    • @PRsPerformance
      @PRsPerformance  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Just more practice. Specifically might be useful then to do reset reps to mimic that first rep more frequently.

  • @owo7094
    @owo7094 Před 5 měsíci +1

    What if I use straps 😢, but definitely top bracing made me feel stiffer, I had issues with wedging and bracing (causing poor brace) but sometimes with straps it's not possible

  • @rileyhennessey7451
    @rileyhennessey7451 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Those bois in the thumbnail are some handsome lads

    • @PRsPerformance
      @PRsPerformance  Před 7 měsíci +2

      I almost didn't use this picture because the sex appeal might detract too much from the actual video title.

  • @MDtheMC
    @MDtheMC Před 7 měsíci +1

    Would you ever recommend a combination of the two?
    As a Conventional Hookgripper, I like breathing and bracing into my belt maybe 30-40% at the top, getting down, aggressively slack pulling with a dynamic stsrt as I take in the last half/60% of the brace. Works fine for me bu if something different added kilos and stability I'd definitely change.

    • @PRsPerformance
      @PRsPerformance  Před 7 měsíci +2

      Ya you could. I've had multiple people reach out saying they do an initial brace at the top, but kind of re-engage that at the bottom. And I'd consider that a "bottom brace" since the completion of the process is not done until you have grabbed the bar.

    • @MDtheMC
      @MDtheMC Před 7 měsíci

      @@PRsPerformance Yep that makes sense, thanks for the response!

  • @krishaneskew5918
    @krishaneskew5918 Před 7 měsíci +5

    Thumbnail athlete is losing to a Chris supermeet in two months

  • @onpoint356
    @onpoint356 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I'm at 140 kg deadlift, 105 kg squat and 70 kg bench, should I try your 15 week powerlifting program?

    • @PRsPerformance
      @PRsPerformance  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Yes you can

    • @onpoint356
      @onpoint356 Před 6 měsíci

      @@PRsPerformance will apply it immediately then, thanks, keep up the good work!!!

  • @shortycareface9678
    @shortycareface9678 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I'm a mixed grip conventional puller, and I brace at the bottom. I've tried bracing at the top, but I find it interferes with my technique too much, as in, I start over thinking and over analyzing it. I find that I can't manage to use my quads/legs as efficiently to initiate the lift as well.

    • @PRsPerformance
      @PRsPerformance  Před 7 měsíci +1

      If bracing at the bottom is working then, don’t change it

  • @zachbird2465
    @zachbird2465 Před 7 měsíci +7

    I’m a top.
    My wife’s a bottom.

    • @PRsPerformance
      @PRsPerformance  Před 7 měsíci +2

      This video was perfectly set up for this comment haha

    • @zachbird2465
      @zachbird2465 Před 7 měsíci

      @@PRsPerformance 😂😂😂
      as soon as I shared on my IG I thought of this so and was pissed I didn’t put it for the link lol.

  • @TDZone70
    @TDZone70 Před 7 měsíci +1

    When you brace, how hard do you have to squeeze your abs? I find it distracting to try for 100% effort.

    • @PRsPerformance
      @PRsPerformance  Před 7 měsíci

      Not 100% by any means. If yo have not watched by brace before inhale video, I'd recommend checkin that out!

    • @TDZone70
      @TDZone70 Před 7 měsíci

      @@PRsPerformance I watched your videos on bracing. I am still practicing, so I must have missed one of the details. I will keep working. Thanks for your great videos!

  • @carringtonamadi4536
    @carringtonamadi4536 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Too bracing is too superior . Great video steve!

  • @four_twenty_sixty_nine
    @four_twenty_sixty_nine Před 7 měsíci +1

    Personally, bracing at the bottom makes me lose tightness 🥴

    • @PRsPerformance
      @PRsPerformance  Před 7 měsíci

      Hence due probably some of the reasons I discussed in being more restricted in how you can brace.

  • @khailephd
    @khailephd Před 7 měsíci +1

    I prefer to be on bottom

  • @gurbirtur3379
    @gurbirtur3379 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Good topic. But why are you so verbose dude.

    • @PRsPerformance
      @PRsPerformance  Před 7 měsíci +1

      I do it specifically just to annoy you, mission accomplished