Top 10 French Vanillas in MTG

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  • čas přidán 29. 07. 2024
  • Magic players refer to Creatures with no abilities as “vanilla” creatures. “French Vanillas” are the name for Creatures that only have keyword abilities. French Vanillas are usually a bit weaker than creatures with other abilities, because those abilities are usually really good, but there are still a lot of French Vanillas that have found success in a variety of formats. So today, we’re going to go over the best French vanilla Creatures in all of Magic.
    Script and Editing by Pumkinswift
    ├ The List
    Intro: (0:00)
    10: Baneslayer Angel: (0:20)
    9: Mantis Rider: (2:24)
    8: Timeless Dragon: (3:55)
    7: Glistener Elf: (5:24)
    6: Strangleroot Geist: (7:06)
    5: Bloodbraid Elf: (8:54)
    4: Sphinx of the Steel Wind: (10:19)
    3: Street Wraith: (12:06)
    2: Gurmag Angler: (13:44)
    1: Monastery Swiftspear: (15:43)
    #mtg #tcg #magicthegathering

Komentáře • 244

  • @simonteesdale9752
    @simonteesdale9752 Před rokem +375

    While I like your list, and the inclusion of non-evergreen mechanics certainly widens the list significantly I personally would have submitted the following list:
    10: Collosal Dreadmaw
    9: Collosal Dreadmaw
    8: Collosal Dreadmaw
    7: Colossal Dreadmaw
    6: Colossal Dreadmaw
    5: Colossal Dreadmaw
    4: Collosal Dreadmaw
    3: Colossal Dreadmaw
    2: Colossal Dreadmaw
    And of course, at #1...
    Yargle.

    • @pumkinswift8263
      @pumkinswift8263 Před rokem +9

      True

    • @anannoyedpanda
      @anannoyedpanda Před rokem +6

      I am the reincarnation of collosal dreadmaw.
      I approve this message.

    • @liammackdaddy
      @liammackdaddy Před rokem +15

      Yargle I’ve come to bargle

    • @Urd-Vidan
      @Urd-Vidan Před rokem +25

      Sadly, Yargle can't join this list because he's a Vanilla. The best and strongest card, but it'd plain vanilla, not french vanilla.

    • @karfsma778
      @karfsma778 Před rokem

      are you ready to BARGLE

  • @TheEmeraldboy100
    @TheEmeraldboy100 Před rokem +77

    The best part of Timeless Dragon's Eternalize is it's an ability, not a spell, meaning you can't use traditional Counterspell to counter the inevitable 4/4 flying.

  • @KyussTheWalkingWorm
    @KyussTheWalkingWorm Před rokem +34

    Ornithopter should probably have been on this list, as an ancient, simple card that has seen play forever and is still used in multiple competitive decks today.

    • @mantizshrimp
      @mantizshrimp Před 4 měsíci +2

      what decks play thopter except affinity?

  • @afasico9669
    @afasico9669 Před rokem +249

    Just a bit of nitpicking: lifelink applies to all damage done by a creature, not only combat damage

    • @jonbaird8835
      @jonbaird8835 Před rokem +30

      Tell me you have glasses to push up

    • @plus9775
      @plus9775 Před rokem +89

      @@jonbaird8835 this matters more than you would think

    • @tylergodfrey5064
      @tylergodfrey5064 Před rokem +1

      Arcbond go brrrrr

    • @ozmond
      @ozmond Před rokem +1

      0:38
      That’s what he said …

    • @afasico9669
      @afasico9669 Před rokem +4

      @@jonbaird8835 I do, i do.

  • @ReederMG
    @ReederMG Před rokem +31

    I still remember when my brother opened Akroma, Angel of Wrath and thinking how crazy it was with its 7 keyword abilities.

    • @jaydub5515
      @jaydub5515 Před rokem +3

      I loved Akroma and Phage back then in Onslaught block. Pre-Lifelink as a keyword, and Vigilance was Attacking Does Not Cause Creature to Tap... The good ol' days

    • @dstreetz91
      @dstreetz91 Před rokem +2

      Yeah I remember reading Akroma when I was 10 years old and thinking wow, it has so many abilities! Also costed way more money than 10 year old me could afford.

    • @JackD1615
      @JackD1615 Před rokem +1

      Akroma is still pretty damn good today, aside from her mana cost. If she was like 6 mana and a 5/5 today she would be fine

    • @icephoenix174
      @icephoenix174 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Nightmare, akroma, squee, and phage all haunt my beginning magic self xD especially phage. I cannot even begin to explain to you how often it's lose the ability game started arguments as we found out what counts as entering the battlefield.

  • @mikas131
    @mikas131 Před rokem +64

    Huh been out of the loop with mtg for near a decade so I never knew about the French vanilla term

    • @Balthazar-mo4ix
      @Balthazar-mo4ix Před rokem +7

      I think it's a regional thing cause I've never heard it either

    • @fernandobanda5734
      @fernandobanda5734 Před rokem +23

      It's often just said in the context of discussing game design. Players don't really use it.

    • @Kujisoba
      @Kujisoba Před rokem +4

      I've been in the loop for the past decade and haven't heard of it lol

    • @jacobtietjen2099
      @jacobtietjen2099 Před rokem +8

      It’s a term that’s been around if you like talking abt card design and competitive.

    • @MrDeeluv1996
      @MrDeeluv1996 Před rokem +7

      @@jacobtietjen2099 Yea was finna say this term is frequently used if you play mtg in any competitive scene. Especially draft and limited.

  • @searching4skill33
    @searching4skill33 Před rokem +5

    Idk if its too hard to define, but a Top 10 of the most unique Cards would be a banger

  • @tilnation14
    @tilnation14 Před rokem +3

    My favorite french vanilla by far is Zetalpa, Primal Dawn

  • @lovetownsend
    @lovetownsend Před rokem +1

    Crystalline Giant is one of my top 5 fav magic cards. Love the idea

  • @Meddling_Mage
    @Meddling_Mage Před rokem +24

    very good. now what about BELGIAN vanillas?

    • @SmellySquid
      @SmellySquid Před rokem +1

      What are those?

    • @Meddling_Mage
      @Meddling_Mage Před rokem +6

      "Creatures that are effectively vanilla or French vanilla *after* they've entered the battlefield." Spice8Rack joked about it once.

    • @darthparallax5207
      @darthparallax5207 Před rokem +1

      Belgian Vanillas would need to be strictly Vanilla except for an ETB trigger in my book.
      Etb with blink is such a big thing I can't see not counting against how vanilla it is.
      Keywords + blink = immediately into Neopoliton or Banana Split tier.

    • @Meddling_Mage
      @Meddling_Mage Před rokem

      @@darthparallax5207 I think that's a great way to categorise them!

  • @nack3665
    @nack3665 Před rokem +2

    I would love to see a video on the Pauper format. I had to liquidate my entire collection and only got to hide 3 decks away: 2 fair EDH decks and one pauper deck that can win on turn 2. I would love to hear your thoughts on the format and cards that are usually bad but amazing with the Pauper restrictions! Love your vids!

  • @RyanEglitis
    @RyanEglitis Před rokem +23

    If you check Maro's definition, french vanilla refers to creatures with only *creature* keywords. As such, Bloodbraid Elf, Timeless Dragon, Gurmag Angler, & Streetwraith are ineligible for this list, as they include keywords that don't just go on creatures.

    • @danielgreenwood793
      @danielgreenwood793 Před rokem +1

      I agree, plus any keyword that has to include reminder text and is only in a single block isn't really evergreen to me.

    • @bren8511
      @bren8511 Před rokem

      People take things MaRo have said and run with it. Look at OTHER games using spike/johnny/timmy mentions when it's mtg specific player heuristics for card design, not decks or anything else.

    • @freddiesimmons1394
      @freddiesimmons1394 Před rokem +1

      @@danielgreenwood793 only existing in a single block is literally the antonym of evergreen.
      But I don't think evergreen makes something French vanilla

    • @stoobie94
      @stoobie94 Před 9 měsíci

      So would Sphinx, since enchantments and artifacts can also have protection

  • @shinreimyu
    @shinreimyu Před rokem +4

    Don’t forget Angler also dodges mental misstep and counterbalance

  • @berrim26
    @berrim26 Před rokem +5

    Street Wraith is also played in Hollow One/Modern Madness as a free cycle. It's just Gitaxian Probe in many matchups and let's you play with 52 cards. Honestly, there's an argument for playing it in -every- deck.
    Edit- 56 cards.

  • @Aikisbest
    @Aikisbest Před rokem +2

    The fact that Baneslayer Angel is not good enough nowadays really says something about the power-creeo.

    • @Trip_Fontaine
      @Trip_Fontaine Před rokem +1

      I've played the game since almost the beginning and it's mind-boggling how much better creatures have gotten. 2/2's for 2 with DRAWBACKS like Ironclaw Orcs were played in serious competitive decks. Jackal Pup was amazing when it came out. Now we have Ragavan. 4/4's for 4 mana with drawbacks like Derelor were played in serious decks. Now there are common 4/4's for 4 mana with positive abilities. The examples go on and on.

  • @glennrugar554
    @glennrugar554 Před rokem +4

    Strangleroot geist is the greatest. I love all the ways it can throw an opponent off. One of these days you will have to mention the mono green stompy deck in modern!

  • @KeroTheInvincible
    @KeroTheInvincible Před 4 měsíci

    Gurmag Angler is just so hilarious to think about. It's so clearly designed to be common draft chaff, but they completely underestimated the Delve mechanic. As such, a "throwaway" card accidentally became a multi-format powerhouse that saw play in the fastest formats around.

  • @7Alberto7
    @7Alberto7 Před rokem

    Amazing!

  • @pascalculate
    @pascalculate Před rokem

    Love the MTG content you've been making. Happy to know you really love MTG ! What's your stance on MTG and Yugioh now ?

  • @lanibentz9976
    @lanibentz9976 Před rokem +4

    Irrelevant to note, but I believe glistener elf is errataed to be a Phyrexian in addition to its other types.

  • @Solrex_the_Sun_King
    @Solrex_the_Sun_King Před rokem +4

    The most OP French vanilla potential creature would be one that unconditionally has first or double strike, trample, and deathtouch, even if it was just a 1/1, or even 0/1. Especially if it was legendary, for commander reasons.

    • @Jacqthepossposs
      @Jacqthepossposs Před rokem +1

      the closest you'll get to something like that is Rograkh, Son of Rohgahh I think

    • @Solrex_the_Sun_King
      @Solrex_the_Sun_King Před rokem

      @@Jacqthepossposs he just needs deathtouch and has partner so going rakdos is easy enough

    • @fernandobanda5734
      @fernandobanda5734 Před rokem

      I think being a 0/1 would hurt a lot. Also, if it's just a 1/1, you can block with two creatures and it'll only kill one.

  • @SleepingwithaSpirit
    @SleepingwithaSpirit Před rokem +2

    could you make a video on 5 mana cards or decks?

  • @jaydub5515
    @jaydub5515 Před rokem +21

    I think the term French Vanilla should be used to define Vanilla creatures with only Evergreen Mechanics. Like, Mantis Rider I get, but that Plainvycling Eternalize Dragon seems like it shouldn't be in the same class, because there are so many Set/Block only keywords that almost any creature without an activated ability or an ETB could be considered French. Too broad in my opinion

    • @jaydub5515
      @jaydub5515 Před rokem

      Or is there a Vanilla term used to define something like that?

    • @The1AndOnlyGoldenboy
      @The1AndOnlyGoldenboy Před rokem +5

      There is not a term like that, but "keyword abilities" by their nature are evergreen. Even if KAs like Soulbond or Miracle aren't used very commonly due to their flavor, the way they inherently function won't ever change (barring rulings changes, anyway).
      While I get the argument, Miracle hasn't been featured since 2018, and both Soulbound and Eternalize are very focused on blocks involving specific locals in the lore (Innistrad and Amonkhet respectively)... they will consistently work the same way even if MTG decides to include them in cards that don't fit into flavorful contexts. Haste is always Haste, Vigilance is always Vigilance, Eternalize is always Eternalize.

    • @RyanEglitis
      @RyanEglitis Před rokem +6

      If you check Maro's definition, french vanilla refers to creatures with only *creature* keywords, which discounts 4 of these picks.

    • @zvonk2480
      @zvonk2480 Před rokem +1

      I thought remembered reading old articles that referred to French Vanilla as a creature with only one creature keyword.

    • @jshtng78
      @jshtng78 Před rokem +1

      @@RyanEglitis Players should only pay as much attention to MaRo's glossary as the current design team does.

  • @tomlemao7462
    @tomlemao7462 Před rokem +3

    Me, a french that dont know much about magic: i still have several question

  • @CursedEden
    @CursedEden Před rokem

    What's the background music from? It sounds so eerily familiar

  • @TheSuperdsp
    @TheSuperdsp Před rokem +24

    I feel like vigilance is actually a very impactful keyword ability.

    • @berrim26
      @berrim26 Před rokem +6

      I agree, vigilance and haste together is especially great.

    • @artificialfreedom
      @artificialfreedom Před rokem

      Wandering emporer certainly made it more relevant

    • @willlozinak5182
      @willlozinak5182 Před rokem +1

      It matters when it matters that’s for sure

  • @GameAlicornLuna
    @GameAlicornLuna Před rokem +2

    Alara had some really great cards, it seems.

  • @mattm7798
    @mattm7798 Před rokem +4

    I always took french vanilla to only be evergreen keywords(flying, trample, vigilance, haste, lifelink, deathtouch), not any keyword(persist, infect etc)

  • @thrillhouse4151
    @thrillhouse4151 Před rokem +9

    2:45, Vigilance is also not the WORST keyword.

    • @plus9775
      @plus9775 Před rokem +2

      It is the weakest of the three, and doesn't advance the agro plan so I can see a number of better ones, but definitely not the worst

    • @MekanikKommandoh88
      @MekanikKommandoh88 Před rokem

      It’s definitely the worst of the three on Rider.

    • @dstreetz91
      @dstreetz91 Před rokem +1

      It's a matchup dependent keyword, but that's everything. Sometimes having flying means nothing on a card in the context of a matchup, other times vigilance can be the best keyword because it pairs really well with lifelink on batterskull for example.

  • @dyldragon1
    @dyldragon1 Před rokem +1

    As only the most casual of commander player, Swiftspear's power made my jaw drop jeez

  • @docterfantazmo
    @docterfantazmo Před rokem +6

    I've seen so much debate lately about banning Murktide, it's so damn pushed, it's a joke.

    • @TheRedGauntlet
      @TheRedGauntlet Před rokem +2

      Give Gurmag his throne back >:

    • @fwg1994
      @fwg1994 Před rokem +2

      In what format? In modern, I don't see any reason to kill off one of many top tier decks, especially one that firmly in the middle as far as top tier decks go. It's pushed, sure, but that's not why cards get banned. They either lead to undesired play patterns, like Sensei's Divining Top, which just made matches go to turns all the time; they're omnipresent in the format and are warping it in undesirable ways, like Gitaxian Probe, which could go in every deck and probably should were it legal; or as part of a plan to attack decks that are overperforming. Murktide sees play in a pretty narrow set of decks (basically just Murktide), and said deck is good, but definitely not the best deck. Even if it was the best deck, it's a cornerstone of the deck and its namesake, so they'd probably go after enablers like DRC to try and weaken the deck before they tried to take out Murktide. There's just no real reason to ban Murktide.
      If its other formats like legacy, I'll admit I don't know as much about how it fares there. I could see maybe banning it as the new kid on the block for an already established deck.

    • @docterfantazmo
      @docterfantazmo Před rokem

      @@fwg1994 I'm not saying I necessarily agree with a banning, I don't play Modern outside of a bit of casual play with my Goblins. However, it does make up 15% of Moderns meta and is in Izzet Delver in Legacy, meaning you have around a 1/5 chance of playing it in a match in these formats. That is incredibly pushed and I do see MH2 as kind of a joke in terms of power creep, I'm not sure the set should've been printed at all.

    • @jlawsl
      @jlawsl Před rokem +2

      @@docterfantazmo I think you hit the nail on the head. Murktide and all of the cards in MH2 feel very forced. Most top decks in modern are using multiple copies of multiple cards from MH1 and 2. I have been playing MtG for a while and I have NEVER seen a format turned so quickly in its head by the release of a single set and then just finished it off with the second set. Modern, for the most part should be the Modern Horizon's format. That is probably the reason I don't see as many modern tournaments as I used to and even less people getting into the format.
      MH and MH2 didn't make the format more accessible to more players, it just created even more of a pay wall. Before these sets, you could build a mono green stompy deck, a burn deck or even any one of a few tribal decks(humans, merfolk, spirits) and expect some good results that wouldn't cost an arm and a leg. Their mana base was pretty cheap and they were at least useable in the meta.
      Now, 3-4-5 color decks are the norm, with mana bases chalked full of fetches, Urza's Sagas and shocks($18-40), elementals that are up to $60, stupid $90+ monkeys, $22+ Regents, etc. And these top decks are playing 3-4 of each. How is a new player supposed to afford that to be competitive?

    • @fwg1994
      @fwg1994 Před rokem +1

      ​@@docterfantazmo According to mtgtop8, which gets its results from tournaments, UR Aggro is sitting at about 13% of the metagame in the last 2 months. It's the top deck by play percentage, but it's not actually one deck. Those stats are combining Izzet Aggro and Izzet Murktide. You can break the decks down even further, one Aggro variant that came in second in a tournament 2 days ago was all in on the prowess plan with 4 swiftspear, 4 sprite dragon, 4 soul-scar, 4 DRC, and a single Ragavan for its creatures. Another top 4 from that same tournament was more on the value plan with a brazen borrower, 3 fury, a magus of the moon, 4 Ragavan, 2 snapcaster, and a subtlety for its creatures. And in case that didn't make it clear, the big difference between the Murktide and Aggro Izzet decks in modern is whether or not they run murktide. Most don't anymore. In the last week, there were 0 out of 10 placing UR aggro decks that were on the Murktide variant. There are 5 out of 31 in the previous week.
      Meanwhile outside of tournaments you mostly have MTGO, where meta decks are present, but the majority of people seem to be playing fringe decks. Like you watch any streamer play modern on MTGO, and like half their matches are weird homebrews you've never seen before. That and Creativity seems to be real popular for some reason. It's showing 5% on mtgtop8, and mtggoldfish has it at about 4% between 4c and 5c variants, but I swear its like a 3rd of the matches I've seen streamers play against on MTGO.
      Interestingly, looking at the last 2 weeks, UR Aggro is up to 16% of the metagame on mtgtop8, while all control decks combined take up about 13% of the metagame. If you wanna know why Murktide is being cut from tournament lists, that's pretty much it right there. You just don't have time to build up your graveyard to cast a Murktide when 87% of the metagame is aggro or combo decks that'll have you dead before the Murktide can make a difference.
      Edit: On further inspection, it seems that a lot of decks labelled as "UR Aggro" do still run 3-4 Murktides, including every UR Aggro deck that placed in a major event over the last two months. So its not nearly as gone as that initial search or the labelling of decks suggested. In fact, it seems to be only the two I checked that don't include Murktide. They are the most recent, and they did perform very well, but they were in tournaments considered a tier below what qualifies as a major tournament. This isn't the first time I've heard talk of cutting Murktide, but this looks to be more regional differences than anything. It's sitting at about 14% of the metagame in major events, right behind Hammertime at 13%. While that is high, it's honestly not that bad for the largest share of the metagame. Like Breeding Pool got banned because it had a solid 40% of the metagame, and we've seen top decks push the 20-30% range before (about 1 in 5 to 1 in 3 matches average).

  • @darianleyer5777
    @darianleyer5777 Před rokem +1

    Best Die rolling cards (separate for d6 and d20 cards, preferably)
    Best Regular Vanillas
    Best Cost Reduction Keywords (i.e. Delve, Convoke, etc.)

  • @kennethacuna9996
    @kennethacuna9996 Před rokem

    what's strangleroot's prowess?

  • @federicodc
    @federicodc Před rokem +1

    Let's not forget the Old Fogey

  • @kennydarmawan13
    @kennydarmawan13 Před rokem +1

    What about Slippery Bogle?
    Where would it go in the list?

  • @RayneKisaragi
    @RayneKisaragi Před rokem +7

    Isn't as good as the cards on this list, but Elite Inquisitor is my favorite 2 drop. Two white mana for 2/2 vigilance, first strike, protection from werewolves/vampires/zombies. Not bad at all

  • @natew.7951
    @natew.7951 Před rokem

    Is there a video that talks about vanilla creatures?
    I'm a newer player and I never find a reason to put vanilla creatures in my decks

  • @randomcatname7792
    @randomcatname7792 Před rokem +14

    No Vampire Nighthawk makes me sad
    The only reason it doesn't see play is because they made a better version of it.
    3 Mana for flying lifelink and deathtouch is no joke

    • @dm9910
      @dm9910 Před rokem +1

      Nighthawk was unplayable in modern even before the new version and it's also unplayable in Pioneer where the improved version doesn't exist. It was barely playable in Modern in mono black devotion years ago before better options got printed, and even then that's never been a top tier strategy.

    • @fernandobanda5734
      @fernandobanda5734 Před rokem

      The newer version doesn't see play either so it's not that.

    • @randomcatname7792
      @randomcatname7792 Před rokem

      Yeah the problem is that cost doesn't matter so the more expensive ones are better because of that
      They could cost 800 Mana and it'd be no different
      Though in a vacuum, nighthawk is amazing

    • @plus9775
      @plus9775 Před rokem

      @@randomcatname7792 there is that aetherborn vampire that's 1 less mana for no flying that saw some play I think

  • @StevetheWizard2591
    @StevetheWizard2591 Před rokem +1

    I'm firmly of the opinion that "X is unblockable" should be shortened to a keyword, if only to save on card space. They did it with "X cannot be targeted by spells or abilities your opponents control" by making Hexproof.

    • @williamdrum9899
      @williamdrum9899 Před rokem

      It used to be but for whatever reason Wizards decided not to.

  • @AndrusPr8
    @AndrusPr8 Před rokem

    Goblin guide is a 1 mana 2/2 with haste and upside 2/3 of the time and downside 1/3. Which I find incredibly broken
    Because it doesn't just enter and hits your opponent, it gives you info about their draws.
    What GG should've said to be fair is "Defending player sees his top card. If it is a land card he can reveal it and add it to his hand"

  • @Ninja_Geek
    @Ninja_Geek Před rokem

    How about top 10 Retrain cards. I was thinking about retrain cards after looking at the Suspend retrains of banned/restricted cards such as Sol Talisman (Sol Ring) and Wheel of Fate (Wheel of Fortune)

  • @Dimizar
    @Dimizar Před rokem

    I have been playing MTG aince 2014 and this is the first time I heard of that term.

  • @Amraphenson
    @Amraphenson Před rokem +2

    PTSD from Bloodbraid Elf>Blightning days.

  • @The1AndOnlyGoldenboy
    @The1AndOnlyGoldenboy Před rokem +11

    Time for some honorable mentions:
    Colossal Dreadmaw. 6/6 Green Dino for 6 (4GG) with Trample. Okay on its own, but in a dedicated Dino deck with all their cost reductions and ramp shenanigans, it can be a problem.
    Akroma, Angel of Wrath. 6/6 White Angel for 8 (5WWW) with Flying, First Strike, Vigilance, Trample, Haste and Protection from Red and Black. Because... if Baneslayer Angel gets a mention, why not Akroma?
    Mirran Crusader. 2/2 White Human Knight for 3 (1WW) with Double Strike, Protection from Green and Black. It's just a solid rate for all that jazz, and the Human synergy means he'll likely contribute more than just being a body even if all you do is play him.
    Ornithopter. 0/2 Artifact Creature for 0 with Flying. Literally a card to consider for any Artifact deck, even if it's just to put an extra Artifact in play. Being able to do so for free is great! Really surprised this didn't make it on the list. (Although if "Vanilla Flyer" is considered distinct from "French Vanilla", I get it. Don't agree, but I get it.)
    Slippery Bogle. 1/1 Green/Blue Beast for 1 (G/U) with Hexproof. I think the only reason this wasn't included is because Glistener Elf exists. Infect is jank, without question, but having a 1/1 with Hexproof is pretty spicy too.

  • @Rob-jj2xm
    @Rob-jj2xm Před rokem

    Playing commander for years, never heard of the term French Vanilla till today

  • @JalebJay
    @JalebJay Před rokem

    Is goyf too wordy for fv status? It pretty much has 0 abilities.

  • @Metallicity
    @Metallicity Před rokem +1

    One small thing I'd note is that Bloodbraid's body alone is already worth roughly three mana, not just two. There are no 3/X haste creatures with upside at 2 mana, and only one without downside (a 3/1 for BR). So the rate for cascade here is costing much closer to 1 extra mana, which is pretty absurd when you can hit mv 3 spells.

    • @darthparallax5207
      @darthparallax5207 Před rokem

      I don't believe Bloodbraid Elf and Monastery Swiftspear should count because the Proper definition is One ability for French Vanilla, not as many as can fit on the card like Akroma.
      But if we suspend that rule, I definitely agree Bloodbraid has more power in gameplay tiers than Monastery Swiftspear. She fought Jace the Mind Sculptor at the height of his power, and I'm pretty sure if you allowed Worldwake-Mirrodin Besieged Standard to have access to Monastery Swiftspear, that wouldn't be enough to hold back Jace.
      I could be wrong.

  • @clementb6963
    @clementb6963 Před měsícem

    error in the voice, but not in the text on scree: lifelink makes you gain life with any kind of damages dealt, not just in combat

  • @xyzen9673
    @xyzen9673 Před rokem

    I look at baneslayer as the radiant guardian card from league of runeterra... Both are 5/5 with protection and lifesteal, although radiant doesnt have flying(stealth for lor) and first strike(quick attack) but in my eyes they are pretty similir

  • @SomeGuy712x
    @SomeGuy712x Před rokem +2

    Maybe a future top ten list could include the best cards that cost WUBRG to cast.

  • @teamcyeborg
    @teamcyeborg Před rokem +2

    I suddenly want to play a French Vanilla tribal deck

  • @Mirvana
    @Mirvana Před rokem +19

    Given how little play it sees, versus the absolutely powerhouse the cards below it were in their respective formats, if Timeless Dragon HAS to be on this list, there's no reason it should be above #10. And even then, something like Slippery Bogle should've made the cut over it, seeing as it's the namesake for an entire deck full of Hexproof creatures, even if it contains zero copies of that card.

    • @benjaminsouthworth5698
      @benjaminsouthworth5698 Před rokem +5

      Timeless dragon sees solid play in legacy and vintage

    • @jewski6852
      @jewski6852 Před rokem +3

      I guess you don't play much legacy huh?

    • @MekanikKommandoh88
      @MekanikKommandoh88 Před rokem

      Timeless Dragon is relevant right now, whereas no one plays Boggles anymore.

  • @yoman8027
    @yoman8027 Před rokem +2

    I must confess: I was expecting Akroma to appear.

  • @Aikisbest
    @Aikisbest Před rokem

    I had to Urban Dictionary the term "French Vanilla" and it meant exactly what I had envisioned XD

  • @ndril
    @ndril Před rokem +8

    it's weird that you take time out of the video to explain what flying is, but then just say jargon-y things like "gives the deck a better clock."

    • @pickler_pickler
      @pickler_pickler Před 2 měsíci

      He does this, as well as deliberately mispronouncing certain terms because it drives up engagement from people like you who point it out, and people like me who point out that you're being farmed for engagement

  • @gautierlathuiliere6072
    @gautierlathuiliere6072 Před rokem +2

    French me came for some shenanigans with French versions of cards. My disapointment was immesurable and my day was ruined.

  • @tonysmith9905
    @tonysmith9905 Před rokem

    :O
    Since do you do mtg content? I thought this was some random ass channel then I heard your voice. Nice surprise for sure!

  • @corey2232
    @corey2232 Před rokem

    It's funny, people always hype up Infect's power because of Modern, but totally forget it was barely a thing for much of the 2 years it was in Standard.
    Valakut, Caw Blade, Vengevine, Vampires, Elves, Mono Red, etc. were more prominent those years.

  • @kennethacuna9996
    @kennethacuna9996 Před rokem

    this is the first time me hearing about this term

  • @dennismonk9559
    @dennismonk9559 Před rokem +1

    really expected slippery bogle to be on the list

  • @darebrained
    @darebrained Před rokem

    Am I the only one who found Shardless more recognizable than BB Elf? Also idk but isn't unblockable basically a keyword?

  • @MrZDMan
    @MrZDMan Před rokem

    Shoutouts to Throes of Chaos, a *sorcery* with only 2 keywords: Cascade and retrace. Doesn't seem much, but was what finally got Tibalt's Trickery banned in historic.

  • @magicalgirlanime
    @magicalgirlanime Před rokem

    Going to take a guess at Tarmagoyf if you're being loose with the definition or Glistener Elf or Blighted Agent if you're being strict keywords only.

    • @fernandobanda5734
      @fernandobanda5734 Před rokem

      Blighted Agent also has a non-keyword ability

    • @magicalgirlanime
      @magicalgirlanime Před rokem

      @@fernandobanda5734 It doesn't does it, just Infect and Unblockable

    • @fernandobanda5734
      @fernandobanda5734 Před rokem +1

      @@magicalgirlanime The full text was "This creature is unlockable" and now is "This creature can't be blocked". Unlockable was never a keyword, it was one of those "take this word by its literal English meaning and trust us" that they hopefully got rid of.

    • @magicalgirlanime
      @magicalgirlanime Před rokem

      @@fernandobanda5734 Huh, so it is. Never noticed that before.

  • @thomasallen3570
    @thomasallen3570 Před rokem +1

    "Lyra was not eligible for this list as her pump ability is not a Keyword."
    I swear, after so many decades of Magic, I dont see why the Lord keyword doesn't exist yet. Its so old school I might as well BE a keyword. Guess its probably because most lords give a stat boost AND a global ability, but Im sure they could make a short hand for most of those.

    • @evanmatthews2159
      @evanmatthews2159 Před rokem +1

      There really doesn't seem to be a need to make it one. It's not super common and I don't recall much that would need to interact with it as a keyword.

  • @MandalorianRaider
    @MandalorianRaider Před rokem +1

    I am once again asking you to let me make pronunciation guides for your videos, Mr. Logs.

  • @WillfulVisions
    @WillfulVisions Před rokem +1

    Surprised to see no vampire nighthawk here

  • @klyffjohnson
    @klyffjohnson Před rokem

    I've been playing magic for 2 decades and have never heard the term French Vanilla.

  • @TopPigg
    @TopPigg Před rokem

    i have never heard of the term french vanilla in magic before

  • @MisterAssasine
    @MisterAssasine Před rokem +1

    Would have expected Rograth to be somewhere in the list

  • @macheefkaze
    @macheefkaze Před 7 měsíci

    My favorite french vanilla is vampire of the dire moon... 1 black mana for a 1/1 vampire with lifelink and deathtouch.

  • @MrSchwad
    @MrSchwad Před rokem

    Mirran Crusader and Cloudfin Raptor are also both very strong French vanillas, but Raptor was basically Standard-only, and I think Crusader has been powercrept out of all the eternal formats it was good in

  • @lapisrabbitcomics
    @lapisrabbitcomics Před rokem +3

    You obviously left out the greatest 2 drop french vanilla in the game, Storm Crow.

  • @wyntersythe1475
    @wyntersythe1475 Před rokem

    No Mirran Crusader?

  • @destroyerofworlds6824

    What about Apex Devastator?

  • @vespertine_
    @vespertine_ Před rokem

    Sad not to see my boy slippery bogle on the list, I mean he literally got a whole deck built just because of him
    (Shoutout to gladecover Scout too)

  • @garrettneary3755
    @garrettneary3755 Před rokem

    Does CGPGrey narrate this channel?

  • @fei-hungwong9034
    @fei-hungwong9034 Před rokem

    Is “this creature is unblockable” not considered French vanilla?
    6:40

  • @austinwilburn1772
    @austinwilburn1772 Před rokem

    I just want to add some lore and irl facts WotC does. There is very little human tribal support due to that fact humans are the most commonly printed type. They knew humans would out race other cards due to newer versions being printed so much. The white the most support you see is for specific things like, white creatures, tokens, knights, soldiers, etc.
    When I saw humans had finally broken into the format, I was surprised but always knew it would happen one day, just cause of the selection pool being so large.

    • @tonysmith9905
      @tonysmith9905 Před rokem

      In fact we saw our very first ever human tribal support in the original Innistrad set, back in September of 2011. That's over half of mtg's life span at this point.

    • @austinwilburn1772
      @austinwilburn1772 Před rokem

      @@tonysmith9905 yeah and some arguments could be said that of those human support cards are just werewolf support too lol.

  • @slowpokegarcia6342
    @slowpokegarcia6342 Před rokem

    Sent this to my friend who plays magic, without watching he said mantis rider should be 1st. Was surprised when i told him its 9 lol

  • @user-pg1jh5tq7z
    @user-pg1jh5tq7z Před rokem

    Where is Korvold????

  • @spareumbrella8477
    @spareumbrella8477 Před rokem

    Can't really think of a reason to ply Unclaimed Territory when Ancient Ziggurat exists, other than format limitations tbh.

  • @youbluethatone1017
    @youbluethatone1017 Před rokem

    Astral Recall!!

  • @ben_clifford
    @ben_clifford Před rokem

    13:21 "Astrall Recall"? LOL

  • @the24thcolossusjustchillin39

    Isn’t Glistener Elf also a Phyrexian?

    • @williamdrum9899
      @williamdrum9899 Před rokem

      Probably. Phyrexian wasn't a creature type until recently

  • @AiEbihara
    @AiEbihara Před rokem +1

    Meddling mage wasn't just good agasint storm. It destroyed storm at the time humans was a tier 1 deck

  • @giacomogiliberti2673
    @giacomogiliberti2673 Před rokem

    Why not young wolf instead of Geist? It's ok either way, Geist is pretty strong too but I like young wolf a bit more a 2 for 1 creature for 1 mana is always nice especially if it can become a 2/2 for 1 mana after giving you some sacrifice value, in pauper young wolf into Bayou Groff is one of the best aggro starts in the format

  • @brighty-go6nn
    @brighty-go6nn Před rokem

    Correction: Glistener Elf has been errata to be a Phyrexian Elf Warrior

  • @Preaplanes
    @Preaplanes Před rokem +1

    What, no Akroma?

  • @MrArbaras
    @MrArbaras Před rokem

    Bloodbraid into Blightning still haunts my dreams to this day

    • @siradzki5905
      @siradzki5905 Před rokem

      For me it really is Island + lotus petal + chrome mox + thassa's oracle + demonic consultation. Only 2 cards are vital, you can play all tutors. It's insane

  • @freddiesimmons1394
    @freddiesimmons1394 Před rokem

    You could have mentioned as a small aside that the card Halo Hunter was in the same standard as baneslayer. Because it is tragic

  • @Haimi-fv5xj
    @Haimi-fv5xj Před rokem +1

    Gurmag will always be the best boi. I‘ll just play a regentless format. F that Card anyway. Also, I‘m surprised you didn’t mention shardless agent (nevermind, he did, I just missed it) alongside bloodbraid elf. It’s the better one and it fills in. It would have been the strongest one from the list. Better than Angler and swifty I‘d say.

    • @setharoth114
      @setharoth114 Před rokem +1

      He did mention Shardless when he brought up Bloodbraid. Also, I agree with you. Murktide Regent was a mistake.

    • @benderscollections7763
      @benderscollections7763 Před rokem +1

      He did mention shardless during the bloodbraid elf slot

    • @Haimi-fv5xj
      @Haimi-fv5xj Před rokem

      He did? Ups, I must have missed it. I'll add a note to my comment.

  • @T4N7
    @T4N7 Před rokem

    Gurmag still sees lots of play in pauper

  • @SoloDoloization
    @SoloDoloization Před rokem

    Why did I think by French vanilla you meant ohrzov

  • @paragrog
    @paragrog Před rokem

    Should have been worth pointing out that Angler is still an all-star in Pauper

  • @oldamar9994
    @oldamar9994 Před rokem

    What about "Top 10 worst card effects (that don't directly harm the user)", like life gain, banding, etc.

    • @karfsma778
      @karfsma778 Před rokem

      ehh. Lifegain when added to literally anything else is actually pretty good. Incidental Lifegain is just pure upside.

  • @ofskittlez
    @ofskittlez Před rokem

    Human deck? Meet Zombie Apocalypse! 😈

  • @dbzwarlord
    @dbzwarlord Před 2 měsíci

    Vampire Nighthawk

  • @neilbornstein5940
    @neilbornstein5940 Před 10 měsíci

    Stinkweed Imp almost has deathtouch and probably would have made the list

  • @Reign274
    @Reign274 Před rokem

    "Cavern of the Souls" *triggered*

  • @Garl_Vinland
    @Garl_Vinland Před rokem

    Monkey lives in many forms