Simple Mistake Leads to SHOWER FAILURE!! -- How it Could Have Been Avoided

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  • @toddmccormick8363
    @toddmccormick8363 Před 4 lety +63

    Issaac, I would like to thank you for your time and devotion you have shown to the flooring/ceramic tile trade. I am a police officer who left a career as a flooring contractor after 24 years. There has not been one day that I have not missed being an installer. it brought me to tears at the end of one of your vidoes when you made the statement that "I love you guys" because being a police officer, I bought into the idea that I was becoming part of a brotherhood. the fact of the matter is that I have never been closer to any group of people than the installers I worked with for over 20 years. I am now looking at going back to the trades because I miss it so much. keep up the good work, you are an inspiration to many.

  • @John-xeyvfkwieba
    @John-xeyvfkwieba Před 3 lety +9

    This guy should have like 1 million subscribers. He does such a great job of explaining all the facts and keeping bad situations positive.

  • @Frankie431
    @Frankie431 Před 4 lety +81

    One like = one prayer for all wood chisels abused in the trade.

    • @Aaron86v
      @Aaron86v Před 4 lety +4

      They work great!

    • @joenievesjn
      @joenievesjn Před 4 lety +2

      Amen to that brother have sacrifice many

    • @pauldhennessey
      @pauldhennessey Před 4 lety +2

      Once and a while my local hardware store has a Stanley chisel 3pak on sale for $3. They usually last until the next time they go on sale.

    • @lisao3041
      @lisao3041 Před 4 lety

      I noticed that too. A little wonder bar would have sufficed too and offended less. 😂

    • @Ab2kgj
      @Ab2kgj Před 4 lety

      I was shouting, "Noooooo! Why!!!!! STOOOOOOOOP! Please stop bear! Please stop. BEAR!"

  • @tedspens
    @tedspens Před 4 lety +18

    I hate seeing these tile fails but glad you post these videos so I can avoid making the same mistakes. Keep up the good work and keep sharing the bad work. Peace out!

  • @Jorge-ot8fo
    @Jorge-ot8fo Před 3 lety

    Man, your honesty in your fail videos, tell a lot about you. you are not afraid of critics and willing to improve and learn from every mistake and turn them into a positive. I call that, been honest and a professional, thank you I learn a lot from your videos.

  • @rontucker7861
    @rontucker7861 Před 4 lety +1

    Issac I wanted to thank you for all that you do ! I just replaced my shower and thanks to you and your videos I think I made my shower bulletproof ! If you ever get up to Sierraville, north of Truckee, look us up and I will buy the first couple of rounds. Stop by the Barber of Sierraville as I am opening a new shop. Thanks again we really appreciate what you do !

  • @nancybatch7007
    @nancybatch7007 Před 3 lety +3

    The distinction between Hardi-back or Fiberboard and cement board is really important and thank you for pointing this out.

  • @seanmellows1348
    @seanmellows1348 Před 2 lety +1

    This is a great piece, solid work going on here. I’ve got to say, I’ve seen a lot of similar showers repairs in my days. It never ceases to amaze me how bad/dumb sometimes.

  • @ensen89
    @ensen89 Před 4 lety +11

    This is the reason I try do to as much as possible on my own. It would be a pleasure to me to higher you, but there are so many contractors out there that just screw the customers over.

  • @garygushue4273
    @garygushue4273 Před 4 lety

    So sad poor guy feel bad for him but thank god you have someone like Isaac to show you & explain in detail of shady tile workers

  • @superiorfleetsolutions3967

    This is why I would rather do stuff myself. Messing something up and learning from the mistakes has lifetime value. Paying a contractor to mess stuff up has no off-setting value.

    • @robertdivany1627
      @robertdivany1627 Před 3 lety +2

      Alot of so called contractors out there are a bunch of guys that really don't know what they're doing .I have had couple of times when I have got called from customers wanting me to look at something and ended up giving a very painful answer that the job wasn't done rite

  • @1silverchad
    @1silverchad Před rokem

    The guy was improperly trained plain and simple. I was trained by my boss to use fiber rock back in the early 2000s and after I learned a few years later of all the problems I have since made every effort to never do tile like that again! Thankful for your informative videos!

  • @andygillen4845
    @andygillen4845 Před 4 lety +2

    Thanks Isacc, your a real honest and positive leader on this. Thanks again.

  • @davenag957
    @davenag957 Před 2 lety +3

    I will always use a solid piece of stone or quartz for shower sills, seats and niche sills. Pieces of tile are always going to allow water to penetrate into the curb through the grout joints. I will set them first, and fill the end gaps solid with mortar before setting the wall tile. This way, the wall tiles overlap the sill making it harder for the water to wiggle its way around and get underneath. I've seen guys set this type of solid sill after the wall tile and rely on a single bead of caulk to keep the water out. That's a big mistake. The sill is the most vulnerable part of the job, it needs to be done correctly.

  • @matthewlall4277
    @matthewlall4277 Před 3 lety

    Good day sir. I am from Northern Illinois and a customer reached out to me with a second floor shower failure. I was floored. They did a one coat hot mop for the liner and the felt ripped open at the drain and walls. Guess I'm gonna have some fun.
    By the way, a quick tip. If I need to install my trim metals in place prior to tile install I will use a small dab of hot glue to hold it in place. Then I will embed it in thin set when tiling.
    Have a great day.

  • @jerryhernandez5122
    @jerryhernandez5122 Před rokem

    I like how you say, another funny thing he did.... there's nothing funny about it. But you have alot of grace for others. I don't see You say anything bad about people even when it's obvious. God bless ya bro

  • @KpxUrz5745
    @KpxUrz5745 Před 2 lety

    In other words, everything the first contractor did was wrong. The sad fact is that almost everyone gets stuck with incompetent tile contractors because that describes most of them. ---By the way, this is one of the very best channels by a skilled contractor that I've seen. Amazing to see the commitment to showing correct installation methods and discussing all aspects in great detail.

  • @Aepek
    @Aepek Před 4 lety

    Sad to see things like this happen, a shower failure, not from the materials....but from lack of installer’s knowledge. It’s a sad thing when it does; regardless, we still need to keep learning especially for when these new materials & methods “come out”.
    Cheers✌🏼

  • @pintos322
    @pintos322 Před rokem

    Man. I’ve watched so many so defiantly avoiding hit mop. Thanks for sharing

    • @pintos322
      @pintos322 Před rokem

      Not real issue here but I’ve seen enough to avoid hot mop and think when working

  • @jeffdyrland2795
    @jeffdyrland2795 Před 3 lety

    Isaac… I thoroughly enjoy watching your reno videos! If you ever want to make a couple thousand mile trip over here to MD… I have a bathroom that needs a complete overhaul. It’s bad! Haha

  • @Scratchingforcash
    @Scratchingforcash Před 3 lety +10

    Here’s an idea for anyone working on a budget.
    Hit your budget goal and then save for an additional year and get the actual contractor you need. Do not shop on a budget for a contractor.

    • @bluegenie840
      @bluegenie840 Před 3 lety

      💯 percent this is what happening with me I’m a contractor and I charge little bit more than the average but people just want to do the job cheaper and then they will spend more money later to redo the job again

    • @Scratchingforcash
      @Scratchingforcash Před 3 lety

      @@bluegenie840 it always happens like that when people don’t educate themselves either with videos, word of mouth or some other way than just handing out money and hoping.

  • @monotonemaestero
    @monotonemaestero Před 3 lety

    You're the man.... Thank you so much for all of these videos!

  • @MrNeptunebob
    @MrNeptunebob Před 4 lety +9

    Every time I see one of these videos with the gross tile shower floor, I appreciate the plastic E M Mustee one piece shower base in my house. I do like tile on the walls, though

  • @ELECTRICMOTOCROSSMACHINE
    @ELECTRICMOTOCROSSMACHINE Před 4 lety +4

    LOOKS LIKE THE FIBER BOARD WAS WICKING FROM THE PAN. NOT THE NAILS. LOVE THE SHOW!

  • @BuckRogers20011
    @BuckRogers20011 Před 2 lety

    I rebuilt my curb with pressured treated 2x4 wrapped with hardi board. So far it is holding up well. About 8 years and tiles are still firmly in place with no cracks. I put no or screws in the hardi board on top of the curb. I glued it down.

  • @cody8772
    @cody8772 Před 4 lety +4

    Great video man! You got me thinking about doing the same!! Ever thought about using like an MLath 25 instead of chicken wire? What are your thoughts on the differences between the two?

  • @orange1soda
    @orange1soda Před 3 lety +6

    I make my curb with concrete. Never fails

  • @harlangreen1840
    @harlangreen1840 Před 4 lety

    THANKS TO YOU ISAAC I use the artex 8 plus 9 over schliuter board and i know its water proof...like a swimming pool...keep up the great videos to show what causes water leakage and tile failures.

  • @DANIEL32170
    @DANIEL32170 Před 3 lety +1

    I have never tiled a shower with hot mop nor do I like the schulter foam pans, all sand topping mix. I use the liner,then the sand topping mix and I even take it a step further I use mapei membrane and aqua defense on the step just in case.
    Everything absolutely every wall covered with 2 coats of aqua defense, niches and benches sometimes 3 coats maybe over kill but I like doing it that way.

  • @adubbelde1
    @adubbelde1 Před 4 lety +2

    I'm a DIYer. I did my shower and tub surround in my house. I know you don't use Hardie backer and you don't nail anything on the curb. I used Durock on my walls with a PVC pan over mud pack. I did that in my last house as well and there were no problems with the shower after 15 years. No nails in the Durock below 6" I made the curb from treated 2x4s and after wrapping with the liner I mudded them in. I also tiled my floor in the bathroom over DitraHeat. My substrate is 1 1/4" of plywood (2 layers of 5/8" glued and nailed.

    • @amariza21
      @amariza21 Před 4 lety +1

      When it comes to durock, You are using the rite materials. I'm a contractor and let me tell you this, there is nothing that can and will replace durock rite now.
      They can come out with 100 different new materials and it mite look cool, or easier to work it but it ain't better than durock . I done my first bathroom around 17 years ago with a little of experience and i used durock. Those bathroom are still in perfect shape. I know that cause i did it to the members of my family.
      I understand that there is some materials out there that is easier to work with than durock, but i always do my research to find out if i should use it instead of durock. Some of them are just 2 expensive, or have too many problems

    • @robbievargas8479
      @robbievargas8479 Před 2 lety

      A mistake with treated wood, it can warp over time once it dries out if not enough screws in it, really doesn’t matter what you use now that you have a pan liner
      Over it completely tbh

  • @robertbell525
    @robertbell525 Před 3 lety +8

    It's amazing how insidious water is. Really takes a lot of thinking and planning to outsmart it.

    • @ttvv88
      @ttvv88 Před 3 lety +2

      But never as insidious as scummy contractors.

  • @giterdun1864
    @giterdun1864 Před 4 lety +5

    I find metal lead pans under the old mud beds here in the Midwest. I actually have the same type tile pan in my own home built in 1960. It's still in use today with no visible leaks. I'll replace it with Pasco liner or latticrete Hydro ban liquid liner. That hot mop system belongs on the roof.

    • @wallacegrommet9343
      @wallacegrommet9343 Před 4 lety +1

      California produces a lot of asphalt and they try to put it everywhere

  • @mcafee0427
    @mcafee0427 Před 2 lety

    DiY my self i learn a lot from you video.Thinking about doing my shower after watching most of your videos.Thank you.

  • @Gypsyman40
    @Gypsyman40 Před 4 lety +6

    So do you rip the whole shower out or a 1/3 down rebuild if they like the shower?

  • @matthewsaltzman5573
    @matthewsaltzman5573 Před 4 lety +8

    Anything cementitious from backer board to thinset will wick moisture over time. Is it better than sheetrock, yes. But even hardy backer or durock should be kept up away from the pan.

    • @tomdemeo2708
      @tomdemeo2708 Před rokem

      Durock won’t rot it will wick like mud does. Hardie is garbage

  • @BuckRogers20011
    @BuckRogers20011 Před 3 lety

    I fixed my shower that has curb just like that. They used green board under the tiles which eventually failed. I ripped it out and built it back with pressure treated 2x2s. Then I wrapped it with hardi board. I used liquid nails to put the hardi board on so there are no holes for water seep thru. It’s been 7 years and so far it has held up well.

  • @rubend2143
    @rubend2143 Před 3 lety +8

    I think you can still repair the existing shower, it's just a matter of cleaning down what is damaged and make it water proof again using red gard or other water proofing system, and then replace the missing tile.

    • @ivanlopez8690
      @ivanlopez8690 Před 3 lety

      I think so to i have done quite a few shower pan repair jobs it can be done i get he rather do the whole bathroom but it can be done

    • @limpfinger12
      @limpfinger12 Před 3 lety +1

      I think the problem is that if that is messed up who knows what else is wrong. If I was fixing someone else's mistake I'd rather do everything right so you can now guarantee that it won't fail since you did the work

  • @ThomasEricWendt
    @ThomasEricWendt Před rokem

    thanks for the vid ...such useful information

  • @plv702
    @plv702 Před 3 lety +4

    Hi! Great Videos! Can you make a video on leveling the walls studs or shimming them to install backer board? There are not many good videos of this procedure. When I redid my shower my walls were way out of plum. Also when I reinstalled the new backerboard exactly where the tiles were there was not enough stud support for areas of the backer board. So I needed to add some studs. Thanks!

    • @kevinrogers4747
      @kevinrogers4747 Před 3 lety

      if the stud is "proud"' 'sticking out farther than the others , make some relief cuts on the face and ass where ever the bulge is most pronounced 1/4 -1/2" , alternately , push the stud flush with his neighbors ,take a length of 2x4 and screw it to stud flush with neighbors , if stud is shy , either reverse process or rip strips of 2x and make up the difference and add them to stud

  • @elchleon3
    @elchleon3 Před rokem

    Hey tile coach I love all you’re videos man I’m here in Citrus Heights I just have a cuestión about some Matt finish tile I did stone Looking tile
    My cuestión is what’s the best wed look sealer 13:34 to use on shower walls and floor I wanna make it wed look
    Thank you and great job u do man 👍

  • @jeremykj69
    @jeremykj69 Před 4 lety +1

    Have you tried the kbrs hard curb with the self-healing top I just installed one just wondering

  • @mml1224
    @mml1224 Před 2 lety +1

    great job tc! hey i have the sam eshower need your help. the water was shooting onto the forward shower wall where, thinly cracked and chiped grout was there for a long time, so now the 6inch wall cavity behind the shower wall that is getting the water hit with, is leaking or molding at the bottom trim level. odors of mold. So is that means the backerboard or pan membrane is broke? no other leaks , what to do? how do you prove it to the builder warranty? thank you!

  • @purvisgrice3722
    @purvisgrice3722 Před 4 lety

    Aloha Isaac, I enjoy your videos have you done one on multiple showers point

  • @JoGeGoJr
    @JoGeGoJr Před 3 lety

    Thanks Isaac, you’re great coach. I had never used the wired mesh over the curb underneath my tile. Always build my curbs with a single marble over the cement boards (drilled through and waterproof liquid membrane over) the inner tile under the marble threshold it’s my concern. I will try the mesh

  • @eugeniustheodidactus8890
    @eugeniustheodidactus8890 Před 4 lety +12

    Go with a solid curb top.... granite or quartz.

    • @misha17422
      @misha17422 Před 4 lety +6

      And use epoxy grout.

    • @MrNeptunebob
      @MrNeptunebob Před 4 lety

      Every time I see one of these videos about tile floor showers all the time, I appreciate the plastic E M Mustee shower base in my house more than ever. I like tile on the walls, though.

    • @eugeniustheodidactus8890
      @eugeniustheodidactus8890 Před 4 lety +1

      @@MrNeptunebob I almost went with either a cast-iron or acrylic shower pan but didn't like the look. In the end, I hired a shower-builder who only builds showers the old- fashioned way.... with *mortar and lathe-on-studs.* Of course, with a mortar pan. These guys laugh when they hear anyone refer to chicken-wire as "lathe".

    • @hereticxxx9317
      @hereticxxx9317 Před 4 lety +4

      Solid top or tiles curb doesnt matter and is a cosmetic thing. It wasnt built properly to begin with.

    • @jeepsuc99
      @jeepsuc99 Před 4 lety

      Correct. No tiles on curb. So stupid

  • @ivanlopez8690
    @ivanlopez8690 Před 3 lety

    I am C54 contractor and honestly i don think everything was lost i think i will be able to salvage the shower and give a warranty on it some times it is easier to say lets rip it all apart and get and other job than to fix it

  • @AdirondackNY
    @AdirondackNY Před 4 lety +1

    Durarock cement board will wick up the water and will stay intact 2:10 but will deteriorate anything behind it

  • @ramos208
    @ramos208 Před 3 lety +2

    If the water is getting behind the tile and thin set, does it really matter what they used for board.

  • @robertsnow4593
    @robertsnow4593 Před 2 lety

    Curbs for me work out great using 4 and 1 mapai and pouring our curbs solid. Rebar through the Crete and put over solid pins when on plywood epoxy set. Never had an issue. 257 showers to this day do not leak go figure. For dyi if you use these kits I call them you better pay close attention to the instructions and materials use for these kits or your going to have problems.

  • @mikeo8890
    @mikeo8890 Před rokem

    What do you think about doing a touchdown instead of Hot tar?

  • @Xhalegaming
    @Xhalegaming Před 4 lety

    Do you have a how to video from the ground up of updating a shower? With all the supplies you used

  • @hmg8915
    @hmg8915 Před 4 lety +6

    This is why i do all and any work needed in my house...

  • @billwong7420
    @billwong7420 Před 4 lety

    I believe home owner should not just hire a licensed contractor, but a qualified licensed contractor with integrity and pride in his work.

  • @patrickgause9071
    @patrickgause9071 Před 4 lety +3

    Tear out all the floor tile, put a strip of hardibacker on top of the dam, put as many screws as you want in it. Then, Buy some laticrete membrane and hydro ban....and have a good time lathering the heck out of it, then tile aaaand voila!!! As for the rest of the walls and niche 🤷

    • @phillipbridge5009
      @phillipbridge5009 Před 3 lety

      America does not seem to be very advanced with liquid applied membranes....all your products we consider very low grade here in New Zealand. Neither of those is tankable, I would use something like MApeilastic Smart or Technokolla ADV Advance or Kerakoll Aquastop Nanoflex...all these are tankable membranes meaning they can take standing water and reverse pressure.

  • @sonofthunder.
    @sonofthunder. Před 3 lety +1

    breaks my heart,as i went thru some bad contractors,just didnt care, and phoney,uneducated,but took the money, laughing all the way,im serving him a court date .

    • @lilbucko
      @lilbucko Před 3 lety

      I hear ya. Sister has a 1 month old shower already failing. Contractor won't do anything

    • @sonofthunder.
      @sonofthunder. Před 3 lety

      sorry,document everything,half the job is finding good people

  • @thereefaholic
    @thereefaholic Před 3 lety +1

    So you mentioned on several occasions about avoiding penetrations into the curb. I was wondering, on a longer curb how would you install the retainer for the sliding glass door that requires screws to go down into the curb?

    • @Mrmonkeypants88
      @Mrmonkeypants88 Před 3 lety +1

      Magic, lol looking at this I highly. Doubt any top curb pens caused the damage, setting the Hardie into the pan it wicked up for sure. This shower would've been saved with some spacing under the boards and waterproofer like Redgard,Aqua defense etc etc

  • @lisao3041
    @lisao3041 Před 4 lety +2

    Shower pans are a liability, period. The grout gets nasty after a year or two. Buy a pre made shower pan. Second time at different house I’ve purchased Kohler cast iron shower pan and it will never get nasty or leak. Probably comparably priced to custom tiled shower base with less maintenance down the line. And you just need a decent tile guy/gal who can tile the walls.

    • @deckmonkey1459
      @deckmonkey1459 Před 3 lety

      Shower pans are way cheaper and faster. If you do a Schluter pan and membrane you are at $500 or more before tile and labour.

  • @mattjudy4037
    @mattjudy4037 Před 4 lety +6

    Durock will wick water as well buddy

    • @Slim-Pickens
      @Slim-Pickens Před 4 lety +1

      Hardibacker will literally turn into mush, Durock will maintain its structure.

    • @mattjudy4037
      @mattjudy4037 Před 4 lety +4

      @@Slim-Pickens durock will maintain its structure yes, but it will definitely still wick water. I just pulled apart a shower that had durock and the water was wicked over a foot up. And I'd never put hardie backer in a wet area, waterproofed or not. Not to mention, I said nothing about hardie backer.

    • @mattjudy4037
      @mattjudy4037 Před 4 lety

      @@Slim-Pickens if youd like pictures of the tearout with the water wicked up the durock I can send them to you

    • @michaelhorn9114
      @michaelhorn9114 Před 3 lety

      Schlueter all the way!!!!!!

  • @angelonearth8498
    @angelonearth8498 Před rokem

    Contractors have license but the problem is they don’t do the job. They hire subcontractors to do it and the contract comes to inspect or after the job is done. That was the case for us. Can I send you pictures of my shower tiles half done when a subcontractor did for me ? Can you tell if it was dont properly?

  • @eddjordan2399
    @eddjordan2399 Před 4 lety

    go on sort it out for hi,m just at materials rate. or luz in a standard porcelain shower tray

  • @larrybrowning6754
    @larrybrowning6754 Před 4 lety +8

    Of all the tests you've performed, what is the best combination of products and best technique to achieve a waterproof shower?

    • @bigneilh
      @bigneilh Před 3 lety +1

      I was going to say we really need to see what the proper way to do stuff is so we can check installers in our area. He talked briefly about the curb but not enough!

    • @michaelhorn9114
      @michaelhorn9114 Před 3 lety +1

      By far, the VERY BEST product on the market is SCHLUETER!!!

  • @Art416
    @Art416 Před 4 lety

    Awesome share. What can I paint over old tile and tile right on top right after. Can I paint red guard on top of the old tile and then tile right on top? Client doesn’t want to spend money on removing the old tiles.. thank you

  • @cervezatorres5700
    @cervezatorres5700 Před 4 lety +1

    Where I live is not require to be a licensed contractor to install tile, the only thing needed is an inspection of the shower liner and drain by the plumbing department Since I'm a licensed plumber also, the inspectors approve my showers without even showing up, they know my work.

    • @kevinrogers4747
      @kevinrogers4747 Před 3 lety

      how much does something like that cost, haha

    • @cervezatorres5700
      @cervezatorres5700 Před 3 lety

      @@kevinrogers4747 a plumbing license and a lot of years of experience

  • @SINSTER7THREE
    @SINSTER7THREE Před 4 lety +4

    Honestly I hate fiber rock anywhere. Just pain in the ass to work with imo

  • @Dtileandremodeling
    @Dtileandremodeling Před 4 lety +1

    When in doubt nail it down! Lol

  • @edgarivyvbkbms8497
    @edgarivyvbkbms8497 Před 3 lety

    I’m from the bay and usually we use deck mud

  • @bTzuR
    @bTzuR Před 4 lety +8

    I could be wrong but I dont remember seeing hardie absorb water as to cause anything like that. But yes, I dont think any board should go all the way to the floor like that either

    • @dwightrapp4788
      @dwightrapp4788 Před 4 lety +3

      Hardibacker does not deteriorate under water. But yes no board should be below grade

    • @dkaloupis75
      @dkaloupis75 Před 4 lety +1

      @@dwightrapp4788 What can go bellow grade then?

    • @dwightrapp4788
      @dwightrapp4788 Před 4 lety +2

      Cement float

    • @dkaloupis75
      @dkaloupis75 Před 4 lety

      @@dwightrapp4788 thanks for the tip i will try to find out how to do that! Thank you again

    • @pauldhennessey
      @pauldhennessey Před 4 lety +1

      Wedi, Schluter, Laticrete...any waterproof backer board can go into the pan. Notice top of curb has same problem and it's 4 inches above pan and perforated with nails. Use a topical waterproofingl and or sheet membrane. Using deck mud to hold backerboard tight at floor is fine if you use the right wall material in unison with your chosen pan/waterproofing system. If you hold backerboard above the deck mud you have to put a fastener in the flood area to hold it tight to the wall. If you allow the backerboard edge to float above the pan it will move with extreme changes in heat and humidity, crack the corner joint and allow water to get behind the board and wick up the wall anyway. Look into bonding flange drains and sheet membranes, I guarantee you will like this system.

  • @jmm866
    @jmm866 Před 3 lety

    I wish I would have made videos of all the crazy showers I’ve ripped out. The worse one was when the installer used visqueen for a pan liner. 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @abanougirgis2815
    @abanougirgis2815 Před rokem

    What would happen if someone used and oatey system and only used an 1.5 in of concrete over their pan liner vs the full 2in?

  • @taylorstevenson8069
    @taylorstevenson8069 Před 4 lety +15

    Stucco netting sounds alot better than chicken wire.

    • @deckmonkey1459
      @deckmonkey1459 Před 3 lety +1

      What's the chicken wire for, Elwood?

    • @BlueOriginAire
      @BlueOriginAire Před 3 lety

      @@deckmonkey1459
      This house is located near the San Andreas fault line. If a quake were to rock this house....you know re-bar and cement will keep all the glass safe from a cracking 🤪🙃😂

    • @daviddelacruz7496
      @daviddelacruz7496 Před 3 lety

      Diamond lath

  • @brickriver9627
    @brickriver9627 Před 4 lety

    i have been using your videos to grill my contractors a$$ ... tile guy nails into the inner part of the curb (approximately 4 inches off ground) i question it... he tells me thats the only way to do it.... 10:50 in this video shows how to do it.... LOVE THE INFO

    • @tylercrumley2788
      @tylercrumley2788 Před 4 lety +1

      Brick River yeah you get what you pay for. Whatever it is, it’s not enough 😂

    • @brickriver9627
      @brickriver9627 Před 4 lety

      Tyler Crumley if I got what money paid for I’d have a shower glass installed without me having to line it up, a fully painted bathroom closet, and a shower value that goes cold to hot instead of hot to cold. RIP Benjamin Franklins

  • @Czechuser
    @Czechuser Před 8 měsíci

    seems to me that tile was falling off the walls and mainly curb because of the FIBEROCK is not suitable to use below waterline and disintegrates with prolonged exposure to moisture. I didnt see a big deal with screws penetrating the hot mob into the curb.

  • @douglaswhitting3469
    @douglaswhitting3469 Před 2 lety

    Hey tell coach I'm installing Pebbles and I walk in shower and I need some recommendations for the type of thin-set that I need and the type of grout that I need

  • @VictorSanchez-lz9we
    @VictorSanchez-lz9we Před 4 lety +1

    Isaac, good video. Did you check if there was any kind of slope on top of the curb before tearing it apart??

    • @ivanlopez8690
      @ivanlopez8690 Před 3 lety

      It has otherwise the water slopes oposite to the shower

  • @grady1807
    @grady1807 Před 4 lety +1

    I agree but Oatey’s instructional video actually shows putting the cement board in then shower pan mud up against.

    • @Godfreynilluka
      @Godfreynilluka Před 4 lety

      grady 180 yes with Cement board. Not fiberboard/hardibacker.

    • @grady1807
      @grady1807 Před 4 lety

      Godfrey Nilluka So cement board won’t wick like he explained?

    • @Whiskey11Gaming
      @Whiskey11Gaming Před 4 lety +1

      @@grady1807 cement board still wicks water but it retains three shape it had when wet. I still think it's a horrible idea to put cement board backers down into a pan like that... just asking for problems.

    • @Godfreynilluka
      @Godfreynilluka Před 4 lety

      grady 180 it will still wick. But it doesn’t fall apart like fiberboard(hardie)

  • @pturk8839
    @pturk8839 Před 4 lety +5

    hot mop is old technology.

  • @ncooty
    @ncooty Před 3 lety

    A moisture meter would help make your point.

  • @unclemagicmark6492
    @unclemagicmark6492 Před 4 lety +6

    Also here why would you tile the top of a shower curb. Too many grout lines. I have been tiling for 25 years and always use some type of cap stone. 1 solid piece! Again this guy would not be hired by me.

  • @lrc87290
    @lrc87290 Před 4 lety +4

    Hot Mop..... Brutal method for waterproofing shower pan.

  • @franciscocazares109
    @franciscocazares109 Před 4 lety

    Go old school. Pvc shower pan. Chiken wire. Fat mud on walls. Deck mud on floors. It won't fail. Im a tile setter bay area cali.

  • @albertfromgc5599
    @albertfromgc5599 Před rokem

    The moral of the story in all these videos is to follow the manufacturer's instructions to the letter.If you are not sure about something just email the manufacturer and they should be able to answer your question and provide suggestions,including diagrams.And never mix different shower liner systems because you are likely to have problems.

  • @amariza21
    @amariza21 Před 4 lety +5

    Another problem that i see tile installer do, is installing tile on the curb top. I always install one big piece of marble and i would never install tile on it

    • @taylorstevenson8069
      @taylorstevenson8069 Před 4 lety +5

      We've been putting tile on top of curbs for many decades. It's not what's on top that matters it's the waterproofing underneath that matters. Duh...

    • @amariza21
      @amariza21 Před 4 lety +1

      @@taylorstevenson8069 i understand people do it, but it doesn't mean you should

    • @jmm866
      @jmm866 Před 4 lety

      Slope on wood, slope on liner, slope on mud...then liquid membrane entire curb and 9 inches up.

  • @jesusmiranda6781
    @jesusmiranda6781 Před 3 lety

    I know I do the same thing All the time and go see the older contractors and as pretty bad. And I live in Oklahoma City

  • @andrebuschmann3036
    @andrebuschmann3036 Před rokem

    What can I do if I already put the Hardy sheet inside the pan?

  • @ThreeSixFour
    @ThreeSixFour Před 4 lety +1

    I have one of those pre made shower tubs, impossible to leak because it’s all one piece. Ugly but simple and reliable

    • @TRX450RVlogger
      @TRX450RVlogger Před 4 lety +2

      Wait till it cracks then tell us how reliable and impossible it is for it to leak.

    • @willinthearea6318
      @willinthearea6318 Před 4 lety +2

      I replace those all the time. They do fail, it's just not worth it making a video of it.

  • @ericlipps7152
    @ericlipps7152 Před 4 lety +1

    Isaac was wondering why you never protect floors adjacent to your demo work?

  • @tucoblondy1643
    @tucoblondy1643 Před 2 lety

    Herbs body language says it all 🥲

  • @mannyjr2912
    @mannyjr2912 Před 4 lety

    Question how about making a custom fiberglass base with resin and chop strand mat and then tile over that? What your take guys? Thanks

    • @phillipbridge5009
      @phillipbridge5009 Před 3 lety +1

      Fibeglass is awful, nothing sticks to it and any exposed fibers can wick...we had a system sold here and it was shit...always avoided those installs like covid21....another bad product of fauci and gates!

    • @mannyjr2912
      @mannyjr2912 Před 3 lety

      So am I better off with ditra or a 40 mil pvc liner? Or would you recommend something else?

  • @brickriver9627
    @brickriver9627 Před 4 lety

    love it

  • @wrightsrrt871
    @wrightsrrt871 Před 3 lety

    Even though he used nails to hold them in he could have at least painted an redguard over it or something. Some people need to learn about materials and applications more cause there's always more than one way to do things but only an handfull that will work and not fail.

  • @str8menace923
    @str8menace923 Před 4 lety +2

    I get the screws were wrong but they aren't why the water got through the tile. Whats under the hotmop would be from the screws

    • @manuelvega2549
      @manuelvega2549 Před 4 lety +1

      Water always penetrates the grout and tile and mortar bed. Since the board wasn't waterproofed it got saturated and the integrity of the fiber in the board broke down and turned to mush.
      Installer error

    • @str8menace923
      @str8menace923 Před 4 lety +1

      @@manuelvega2549 again he told the customer the reason the shower was junk is because of the screws. Which is bs

    • @manuelvega2549
      @manuelvega2549 Před 4 lety +2

      @@str8menace923 you're right he did say the screws were the reason but he also pointed out the the board was in the mortar bed (big no no) and the curb had no waterproofing so I think he covered it all

  • @JW-_
    @JW-_ Před 4 lety +1

    Sucks getting screwed like that.

  • @jj1234346
    @jj1234346 Před 11 měsíci

    Do you use grout sealer?

  • @jakesarms8996
    @jakesarms8996 Před 4 lety +1

    The best shower pan I ever seen was made from thick terrazzo.

    • @matthewlall4277
      @matthewlall4277 Před 3 lety +1

      You are correct. They are cool to see and rare. They can and do however crack. I had to etch and sand one to fill in the crack. Then used Elite Sealer. The customer was on a very tight budget and understood this was only a bandage. The plumber made sure the drain and trap was cleaned and clear. It's been well over a year now with no call.

  • @therealjewels
    @therealjewels Před 4 lety +1

    Just wondering, would this be a complete rebuild or only the shower pan, curb, and lower part of the walls?

    • @Aaron86v
      @Aaron86v Před 4 lety +1

      Most likely a rebuild, if the install was done poorly it's not worth leaving the rest up because it could also be done poorly. It's better to start over and know that its done right.

    • @MoneyManHolmes
      @MoneyManHolmes Před 4 lety

      Basically since the original installer wasn’t licensed as required by law in California, no licensed tile guy will want to touch it. But technically it does look very salvageable to me.

    • @therealjewels
      @therealjewels Před 4 lety

      MoneyManHolmes I was thinking the same thing. Such a shame when all of that beautiful tile has to be disposed of.

    • @AJourneyOfYourSoul
      @AJourneyOfYourSoul Před 3 lety

      Most likely the niche wasn’t done right either and is slowly leaking into the wall.

  • @dannydoyle8731
    @dannydoyle8731 Před 4 lety +1

    I'm from the other coast, I didn't know showers are built with wire reinforcement in Cali (code?), is it because of the earthquakes?

    • @aptpupil
      @aptpupil Před 3 lety

      Just keeps the mortar together. What do you use over there?

    • @dannydoyle8731
      @dannydoyle8731 Před 3 lety

      @@aptpupil no wires. just backer board>water seal>mortar>back buttered tiles

  • @Thomas-wn7cl
    @Thomas-wn7cl Před 4 lety +1

    Terrazo precast shower base any day lol.

  • @pascualsolorzano5792
    @pascualsolorzano5792 Před 4 lety +3

    I'm old school, hot mop, paper, wire, scratch, cement and tile.
    !!Problem solved!!
    All the new stuff is commercialized.
    Always scratch your walls before mudding.
    100% quality..

  • @Heaterskwirl
    @Heaterskwirl Před 4 lety

    Original contractor => putting the 'con' in contractor one bathroom at a time. We've experienced dozens of times!

  • @Geoffwhite18
    @Geoffwhite18 Před 2 lety

    I'm rebuilding my shower right now for the exact same reason. They buried the fiberock in the shower pan, and it was rotting, turning black, and weeping water over the curb and leaking.