@@auturgicflosculator2183 I know! what an idiot! although J.K rowlings skill is a mystery. Stephen Fry is a trained actor so he can stay still for long periods of time though.
To be fair if he had looked the part Stephen Fry would have made an incredible Dumbledore. I’ve never thought about it before and have no issues with the original or supplemental casting but Stephen Fry is like a real world Dumbledore.
I hear that one day they might remake harry potter as a tv series, that might be the perfect time to cast him as Dumbledore because he'll be older too.
My kids loved the Harry potter books and movies they and their dad have read them loads of times. I'm visually impaired so I've listened to the audio books over and over and I love them. They have got me through lockdown and the loss of my mother. Thank you both very much. 🦉⚡📚👓
as a fan of Star Wars and the Wizarding World is totally amazing to hear J.K. Rowling talking about Star Wars, this is a refreshing and brilliant interview, Stephen Fry feels like a very appropiate, fitting and important part of the Wizarding World, he really brought the true performance of the Harry Potter series, with the exception of Harry Potter and the cursed child
I've read all the HP books countless times, and listened to Stephen Fry reading them out loud almost as often. So much indeed, that when I'm reading them myself, I "hear" it in my head as Stephen Fry's voice! And also listening to him now, I'm alsmost imediately transformed back to the stories, Hogwarts and the characters. LOL
Jo's voice is such a delight. Hearing for the first time, such Hermioneish voice but with wisdom contained. Her laugh is melodious but unhinged at the same time, you can feel her pain in some parts and happiness in others. Well it seems I will go through jo phase just like draco and harry and hermione phase. Sigh.
CS Lewis 'the wood between the worlds' in The Magicians Nephew is one of the most memorable locations in a book and somehow it still seems so real. I'd still say that was one of the best books I've ever read.
I guess that writers often write themselves into a corner where the best outcome almost always will be guessed correctly. You got the protagonist and antagonist fighting and one must perish, but how? And suddenly you don't have that many choices.
@@FEARYOYOYO rowling didn't write herself into a corner though. the conclusion of harry potter isn't stereotypical in any way, and it's brilliant precisely because you don't really expect it/ want it to happen and yet it makes perfect sense with the rest of the story. It's good boy against bad boy YES, but it's not falling into the clichés because it explores their relationship with philosophical depth and excellent characterization. At the very best you could argue that she kinda copied the Lord of the Rings, but I think she even managed to do that with her own twist
@@AliciaB. As a casual reader I haven’t put much thought into this and must stand corrected then. :) Edit: About the LOTR analogy, I’ve always thought that HP’s relation to LOTR paralleled Poirot’s relation to SH. Something about borrowing but still making it your own. But perhaps this is an uncontroversial idea.
What a delightful conversation. Thank you for posting it up, Rolando. I have always admired Stephen Fry and his engaging voice combined in a conversation between J. K. Rowling and her prominent Harry Potter series. However, as you listen in on them, the excellent way they discussed words and sounds, thoughts and struggles of matching the characters to those sounds, they take flight in your mind. What a lovely addition that would somehow be attached to the DVDs. Thank you to all who are concerned about the project for the dinner conversation that inspired an event to remember.
The ending is typical Stephen Fry.... 😊 I remember being hooked to the narration so well..... Sometimes I wish I could have the experience of listening to it for the first time once again.....
Now there is a seasoned performer who held a very professional, very appropriate conversation. It was wha tI always tried to aim for when I was interviewing, but never quite succeeded. This was a pleasure to listen to. Thank you for sharing. Nga Mihi nui from Aotearoa.
I was very proud that before the last book I had figured out that Snape loved Lily, so that he had to be fundamentally good. I realized that love would block legilimens. To me, that was a sign of great writing--that J. K. Rowling had built a world with such great verisimilitude and logic, even though it was a world of magic, that one actually could figure something out.
26:53. I didn't listen to this interview at the time (presumably 2005 or 2006, since Half-Blood Prince had come out but Deathly Hallows had not), but I enjoyed hearing Rowling say that he'd like to write more but under a pseudonym and Fry suggest that she would write something for those around my age who grew up reading the Potter series because the Strike novels fulfilled that prophecy on both counts.
I have listened to the whole series read by Stephen Fry. He is the best reader of Harry Potter. Absolutely fabulous. His recording is no longer available on CZcams. (The person reading under his name currently on CZcams is awful.)
If you google Harry Potter audiobook, scroll down you’ll find a few website with all the books on. Should be on the first page, I can’t post links. But you should be able to find it easily enough
Great discussion/interview. Lovely people both. I've never read any of the Harry Potter books, let alone seen the films (the first one put me off) but I could listen to Stephen Fry reading The Telephone Directory (if they still exist) and still be utterly captivated.
The films are far less enjoyable than the books. I've read all the books; I gave up on the films after the third one because I just couldn't take any more.
Stephen Fry should play Dumbledore in the series remake, which must come eventually. He'll probably be the proper age too. He's just perfect for this role.
What a nice interview AND couple 😁 I really love to listen to Stephen's voice to leave the day behind and slither into the night. So far I have listened to The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, and I am ready for something new. This will be it. Harry Potter. Thanks for the upload 🤝🇳🇱
Stephen could read the phone book and I'd be just as invested, but if I had to recommend an audiobook, that would definitely be Puskin's Eugene Onegin. Also, try one of his latest books, Mythos and Heroes.
@@msbecks7004 😴 I have it in my bedroom on a separate player, which allows me to listen any time. And yes , I also have a small bag filled with lavender to sniff 😊 🤝
sherlock Holmes is a 70 hours Audiobook on Audible which is worth every cent, Fry's voice is soothing and exciting at once, gooid for listening AND sleeping :)
I had no idea that he recorded the audiobooks while the books were new. I've listened and re-listened and re-listened. I could manage no one else doing the job.
I also listen again and again. The "Potty loves Loony!" (the last one when he's zoomed away) is one of the highlights. His renditions of Luna, Hagrid and Slughorn are fantastic. The little dialogue between Harry and Luna when he's asking her to theSlug dinner is done perfectly.
I tried saying _"Harry pocketed it"_ ... and I had the exact same problem with the line that Stephen did. But, if I just rewrite it as _"Harry pockeh tidit"_ it just works! It seems that the problem only occurs when my brain knows where the word ends ; ) Since realising this trick of breaking the words in different places I've managed a number of tongue-twisters that I couldn't previously XD
I was bent double, clutching my sides amid sobs of hilarity listening to Stephen Fry do Aunt Muriel speaking to Elphias Doge at Bill and Fleur's wedding. Now I go about my day's spotting old "ladies" that mimic old pink flamingo's and demanding service everywhere reminding everyone of her age all the while gossiping loudly and shamelessly about some poor unfortunate soul who can't defend themselves at that particular moment.
I was hoping this was recent and Stephen was going to ask her some important questions *specific recent questions, not downplaying the questions here x
I have to say i have so much respect for Miss jk Rowling, i have never read any of her books ,but as a person she is a roll model for young girls , And as for Mr S Fry he is an incredible intelligent and a all round nice person I could quite happily sit in his company and just listen to him talk on any subject mesmerized. Only great Britain can produce talent like these two .
I think Stephen Fry is a wonderful actor and comedian; and he has hosted some magnificent British TV shows (Q. I. being a superb offering). Nevertheless, I genuinely didn’t like his reading of the HP series. I preferred Jim Dale’s rendition. The reason being that throughout the entire story, I couldn’t release myself from the notion that it was Stephen Fry reading the books; and therefore, it detracted from the overall experience. Conversely, I was able to immerse myself completely into J.K.’s works, while Jim Dale read it; and I never once felt distracted from the story. I know that some people have harped on about his portrayal of Hermione, but it never presented a problem to me. Under the circumstances, wherein he was somewhat rushed into sitting through the reading of the first book, I think he managed quite well. I‘ll always like Fry... just not reading the HP books. 🤪
What an interesting experience. I have both and very much prefer SF because I favour Hermione over all others and Jims version of her makes me want to tear my hair out :) I had no idea others felt the same. It's lovely that we all like different versions :)
@@pernilleostergaard5078 Absolutely! It's all personal preference. Some people like Chocolate ice cream, others prefer strawberry... which is better? It's all a matter of personal preference. I think Fry is best in his element as a raconteur... regaling us with stories of things that have occurred. As a narrator, he'll always be Stephen Fry first (to me), which is a testament to his success in all other things he does. In defense of Jim, his portrayal of Hermione improved with the later books. I genuinely can't fault him for it, because his repertoire of unique character voices for all the characters in the books was pretty darned good. In this respect, it was a much greater range than what Fry offered; and as such, was all the more magical to me.
I avoid massively popular new fiction simply because it is omnipresent in media and I feel a lack of privacy to read in. After listening to JK Rowling and Stephen Fry, I look forward to hearing Mr. Fry's recordings of Ms. Rowling's words. Still can't do Tolkien.
An ex of mine used to deal in antique occult books • One of her frequent clients was Dr. Rowan Williams, who was - at that time- the Archbishop of Canterbury...
Find it really annoying to watch this knowing that I cannot at all easily legally get Stephen Fry's version of the audiobooks here in Canada. I'm sure Jim Dale did a decent job, but this interview is wasted on me...
Yes you can get them, just as I can get American things here in Europe! The secret is: CD audiobooks bought for you here in EU and recorded or sent to you in hardware. I did so in buying the American HP hardcover book edition in the US but then ordering from amazon com directly the actual newest book before it appeared. And every time it was delivered in time.
Stephen does a great job as a reader on AUDIBLE!, check him out. The mans a fucking tart of whim and a king of literature.. And i love him so much for it. Even though i have no joy for Literature at all. i just like books.
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They both can be true Stephen, the excitement and relaxation of a fantasy world and fear of the unknown walk hand in hand in a well told story. You know this to be true, yet you state otherwise...smh.
I don’t know about you but it seems to me counter intuitive to cast fear and relaxation into one bucket. I personally struggle to be relaxed if I’m truly fearful. But that’s not to say you can’t *enjoy* the journey into the unknown, but experiencing genuine fear of what’s to come, and excitement about discovery are quite different, wouldn’t you agree?
8:50. Yep. That is exactly why JK Rowlings view of mythology is more correct than JRR Tolkien's. No offense towards Middle Earth for the idea of giving England its own mythical epics but Tolkien disregarding the pagan natives as 'people trying in there own vain way to understand the greater christian picture' or worse 'heathens under the sway of evil' like his initial treatment of the Narnia story's was deeply disrespectful on Tolkien's part. They'd see eye-to-eye on their love of English Language but apart of them both writing about unlikely heroes the two authors can't be any more different.
They’re still friends. Jo being pro-woman doesn’t mean she’s anti-trans and he’s intelligent enough to know the difference. Stephen Fry was happy to accept her offer of narrating her latest work The Ickerbog, released in 2020
I really enjoyed the books despite her constant one sided sermonizing. When I found out how close they resembled “The Worst Witch” series I found it more difficult to enjoy them as it doesn’t appear that JK ever credited that author for inspiration never mind substantial plot, theme etc.
When I read the Harry Potter books (and I have actually never heard any of Stephen Fry's Audio Book versions), I did find them to be derivative of so many other works of similar story and character types. Also I did not like the way she wrote, the use of language seemed a bit amateurish compared to authors of say Terry Pratchett's quality, and often I found that the books were overwritten, too unprecise and verbose at the same time. Of all the books it was Order Of The Phoenix that I just had problems reading, to the extent I very nearly gave up reading it altogether. I was younger then and had some idea that once I started something I had to finish it, no matter how bad it was, but these days I've got over that and if I am reading something that is just to terrible than I will toss it. Phoenix was just so badly written that it actually worked. Strange to say, but yes it worked. I became depressing to read and suited the mood of the book. I will say that Rowling does have a sense of flow to her writing that makes it easy to read, almost a conversation, and it is that element, I think, that made her books so popular. Yes there is detail, and the story is pretty good, but getting there was often what I found bad in the writing, the plan of it was not good. Have you ever read the series backward? You'll notice that the first books are harder to read because they were more childish, the series just seemed to grow up as it went along, as did the character. Given that JK Rowling was a full adult when she began writing these novels makes the aging of character and books interesting, it means that perhaps she had some conscious thought of how she was writing them, that she was writing each in a particular style that grew with each passing installment. Not an unintelligent thing to do. The obvious question not asked in this interview, was did any of the different versions of the story adaptions, be it the audio version, or the films, influence the books in any way. The definitive answer is probably yes, as in another interview I heard or read somewhere she stated that she had not guessed certain details about certain characters before she saw them portrayed on screen and realized that that was what she intended for the characters. All food for thought.
I think that if there’s one thing that made the Harry Potter series in particular so beloved out of all the children’s adventure stories out there, it’s the humour and fun of the whole thing (how delicious is the idea of witches and wizards living right under our very noses? Not to mention the idea of children just like the reader going to school and worrying about homework/mean teachers/fitting in/etc but learning how to use magic in an enchanted castle instead of boring stuff like maths in a mundane brick building.) Really, it’s everything a child or even an adult could want in a wish fulfilment fantasy. The reader-insert having powerful magic, having adults willing to fight and even die for him, the plots of the “good guys” and “bad guys” revolving around him, and ultimately being the hero of the entire world.
Its really not right , I mean its very PROBLEMATIC , for a middle aged woman to write from the perspective of a teenage boy. Its racist. Sorry not racist , I mean its cultural appropriation. Oh not that one either, ..um...well its certainly one of those woke things which are unacceptable.
"After reading "Order of the Phoenix" I realized you are so cruel to him." an author is nothing more than a professional asshole. make a character and do all you can to poke, prod, test and provoke them.
Social media is where the ineffectual get to ignore their worthlessness. I get the irony, I'm just being a troll now. A troll that hopefully breaks the attraction for these poor, sad people.
Alas, if only Stephen was hetero inclined... they would have made a wonderful cerebrally compatible couple... just wishfully wistfully wondering...💑💑💑😇😇😇
Interesting. I haven't watched / Listened to the video yet, but I am hoping he will reflect on J.K. being a Terf. Edit: Now I realize when this was done, and also that this was just a fluff piece
Told everyone real facts. Dude you are just another resentful Misogynist using hate speech against a woman who survived domestic violence and who has received thousands of rape and death threats
@@proevoisace7 She hasn’t commented on trans people’s rights; she merely said that the word for ‘people who have periods’ is ‘women’, and has refused to be bullied into changing her mind. She and Stephen Fry have been friends for years. She also said in an interview that Dumbledore is gay. She is a genuine liberal, so don’t believe all the hype and rubbish that is said about her.
@@RB-mq6em I've seen her comments and that isnt what she has said, she obviously has an agenda and it is widely agreed her comments have been vile and dehumanising, I didnt believe it at first and gave her the benefit of the doubt as I dont believe what is reported in the media most of the time so thought I'd look into it myself and she is just an awful woman, when you have people like daniel Radcliffe coming out against her you know theres a problem and to say there isnt is worrying
@@RB-mq6em also saying she has gay friends is the equivalent of a racist saying oh my brother in law is black, who gives a shit, they are still racist and she is still trans phobic
Stephen Fry reading HP: 11 out of 10 Warner Bros HP movies: 1 out of 10 Sorry, I just can't stand the big time watering down of a classic. The music is to "big score". The scripts are rushed, the scenes are rushed, the is no humour. Terrible casting. Look at THE DURRELL'S, BBC MERLIN. One day HP will be done 1 whole season for each book as it deserves. Stephen Fry's reading is magnificent.
FIY for the defenders, you don't have to have a graduate degree to understand the basics of biology... There are variants in genetic sex. Same in anatomical sex. And yes, hormonal sex. If you are going to point to "female sex" as being restricted to people capable of producing large gametes - any "female" who doesn't produce ovules would, consequently, no longer be considered female. Not all "females" with the JKR seal of approval actually menstruate. So... they are not female? Females are females only when they are able to breed? The reality is that there are an infinite combination of biological genders. The fact you don't know that, doesn't make what she said true. Opinions are not facts. I know, what a shocker. Taking all of this in consideration, what she said is that transgender women are not women. She used her vast platform to spread spread a hurtful and dangerous message while posing as socially liberal and inclusive. Her message is transphobic. If you agree with her, you are also transphobic. Which is your right. Just own it and don't try to deny it. I long for a time before JK came out as a TERF... It is seriously sad when people refuse to review their position or just admit they are wrong. I guess her ego, after all these years of being adored, admired and becoming absurdly wealthy, makes her think she is infallible. Otherwise, why double down on such a blatant mistake?
Not one single person has ever implied that ALL women menstruate, or that you are only a woman if you menstruate. Post-menopausal and infertile women exist in substantial numbers, and nobody’s suggesting that they cease to become women! What IS stated, and what is irrefutable biological fact, is that it is ONLY females who can menstruate. Menstruation, pregnancy, lactation can only occur in someone with female anatomy. Someone male-born can have all the surgeries and HRT in the world and that will still be a physical impossibility. Most trans people know and accept this fact. It’s a radical, destructive, and grossly intolerant minority of people (many of whom aren’t even trans themselves) who are intent on pretending otherwise.
GeorgiaDCA: absolutely silly. There is no such thing as biological genders. There is something called biological sex and then there is something called gender, which is a social construct. A trans woman is a woman gender wise but not a woman biologically. There are not an infinite number of biological sexes, as you suggest, but rather men, women and people that are intersex of which there are sub categories. The one thing you are right about is that opinions are not facts so stop spewing BS.
Stephen Fry isn't really woke. He is also extremely intelligent so i'd imagine he agrees with her. Or at the very least defend her. Don't forget that Fry debated alongside Jordan Peterson against 2 woke people not too long ago. Sensible man is Mr Fry.
@@lucasmucas2807 He did also explicitly say that he and Peterson didn't necessarily have huge crossover on opinions, or words to similar effect. He just particularly agreed with him on the free speech issue. Thank God he did because he was the only one in that debate who said much of any use. The other two misrepresented and demonised Peterson for the duration, and he spent his whole time defending himself.
@@lapelcelery42 Indeed. And i have no doubt that Fry and Peterson would debate quite happily against each other on other topics. Sign of a healthy mind.
You can't help wanting to like Rowling. She IS likable. It's just sad that her views on trans people has become so toxic when she could be such a powerful ally. I kept wishing he'd ask her the hard questions about that.
This was recorded in 2005. And since when is it “toxic” to say that sex is different from gender identity, or that only females can menstruate? Do you have no understanding of biology?
@@ohwellwhateverr The bizarre thing is, trans men who menstruate understand very well that they’re not cis men. Trans people know gender and sex are not the same thing. 🤔 So what is your confusion?
Well, in JK 's case, progressivism hit back violently. It also did that to Ian Mackellen when he tried to speak nicely about Kevin Spacy. Progressivism is a trend that kills it's own children.
How did they talk for 27minutes without moving. Amazing.
They are professionals.
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@@JIMB0BBERY I can't even.
@@auturgicflosculator2183 I know! what an idiot! although J.K rowlings skill is a mystery. Stephen Fry is a trained actor so he can stay still for long periods of time though.
ikr they're amazing.
This is a fantastic interview. Stephen Fry is an absolute national treasure. JK Rowling is a genuine literary-mind to be ranked alongside the greats.
The English Language so well served here.
Innit?
@@greyLeicester Brilliant 🤣
The hate towards these two brilliant individuals says a lot about where we are as a culture.
To be fair if he had looked the part Stephen Fry would have made an incredible Dumbledore. I’ve never thought about it before and have no issues with the original or supplemental casting but Stephen Fry is like a real world Dumbledore.
I hear that one day they might remake harry potter as a tv series, that might be the perfect time to cast him as Dumbledore because he'll be older too.
@@Wierdgirl5834 a tv series is being discussed in the US right now. It’s a great way of keeping in all of the characters left out of the films
he's the perfect dumbledore. and he knows the books intimately
I always thought he was the most book-accurate Horace Slughorn! Ian McKellen is my ideal Dumbledore
I actually think Graham Norton for Dumbledore, and Stephen Fry as Snape
My kids loved the Harry potter books and movies they and their dad have read them loads of times. I'm visually impaired so I've listened to the audio books over and over and I love them. They have got me through lockdown and the loss of my mother. Thank you both very much. 🦉⚡📚👓
as a fan of Star Wars and the Wizarding World is totally amazing to hear J.K. Rowling talking about Star Wars, this is a refreshing and brilliant interview, Stephen Fry feels like a very appropiate, fitting and important part of the Wizarding World, he really brought the true performance of the Harry Potter series, with the exception of Harry Potter and the cursed child
2 brilliant people in conversation! Such a pleasure to listen to.
I've read all the HP books countless times, and listened to Stephen Fry reading them out loud almost as often. So much indeed, that when I'm reading them myself, I "hear" it in my head as Stephen Fry's voice! And also listening to him now, I'm alsmost imediately transformed back to the stories, Hogwarts and the characters. LOL
Me too! Stephen is so very good at capturing the voices of the the various characters.... my favourite Escapism.
❤️ J K Rowling. So pleased Stephen Fry narrated The Ickabog last year. JKR and Stephen Fry is a magical mix.
Stephen Fry should obviously play Dumbledore if and when they reboot the films. I have never seen such an affinity for an actor to a character.
Stephen Fry for Dumbledore, Hugh Laurie for Mr Weasley
I hope they stay true to the books if they ever redo it.
@@dreadfulspiller8766 You know they will. I’m betting within the next 10 years we’re going to hear about it.
I'd like to see a full miniseries per book- that way they might get everything in!(And I vote for me as Molly- I even look like her!)
@Donna English A worthy replacement would have been Ian McKellen.
thank you for posting. such a wonderful interview. it's a joy to listen to them both.
Jo's voice is such a delight. Hearing for the first time, such Hermioneish voice but with wisdom contained.
Her laugh is melodious but unhinged at the same time, you can feel her pain in some parts and happiness in others.
Well it seems I will go through jo phase just like draco and harry and hermione phase. Sigh.
CS Lewis 'the wood between the worlds' in The Magicians Nephew is one of the most memorable locations in a book and somehow it still seems so real. I'd still say that was one of the best books I've ever read.
I could listen to S. Fry all day long and never get tired of him.
the theory about Harry losing his powers in defeating Voldemort & continuing his life as a normal man was arguably rather spot-on
I guess that writers often write themselves into a corner where the best outcome almost always will be guessed correctly. You got the protagonist and antagonist fighting and one must perish, but how? And suddenly you don't have that many choices.
@@FEARYOYOYO rowling didn't write herself into a corner though. the conclusion of harry potter isn't stereotypical in any way, and it's brilliant precisely because you don't really expect it/ want it to happen and yet it makes perfect sense with the rest of the story.
It's good boy against bad boy YES, but it's not falling into the clichés because it explores their relationship with philosophical depth and excellent characterization.
At the very best you could argue that she kinda copied the Lord of the Rings, but I think she even managed to do that with her own twist
@@AliciaB. As a casual reader I haven’t put much thought into this and must stand corrected then. :)
Edit: About the LOTR analogy, I’ve always thought that HP’s relation to LOTR paralleled Poirot’s relation to SH. Something about borrowing but still making it your own. But perhaps this is an uncontroversial idea.
What a delightful conversation. Thank you for posting it up, Rolando. I have always admired Stephen Fry and his engaging voice combined in a conversation between J. K. Rowling and her prominent Harry Potter series. However, as you listen in on them, the excellent way they discussed words and sounds, thoughts and struggles of matching the characters to those sounds, they take flight in your mind. What a lovely addition that would somehow be attached to the DVDs. Thank you to all who are concerned about the project for the dinner conversation that inspired an event to remember.
Far too short. A lovely to and fro from them both.
The ending is typical Stephen Fry.... 😊
I remember being hooked to the narration so well.....
Sometimes I wish I could have the experience of listening to it for the first time once again.....
listening for the first time now. Haven't read them since I was 7
Now there is a seasoned performer who held a very professional, very appropriate conversation. It was wha tI always tried to aim for when I was interviewing, but never quite succeeded. This was a pleasure to listen to. Thank you for sharing. Nga Mihi nui from Aotearoa.
I was very proud that before the last book I had figured out that Snape loved Lily, so that he had to be fundamentally good. I realized that love would block legilimens. To me, that was a sign of great writing--that J. K. Rowling had built a world with such great verisimilitude and logic, even though it was a world of magic, that one actually could figure something out.
Absolutely enjoyed the interview! Thank you for uploading it!
26:53. I didn't listen to this interview at the time (presumably 2005 or 2006, since Half-Blood Prince had come out but Deathly Hallows had not), but I enjoyed hearing Rowling say that he'd like to write more but under a pseudonym and Fry suggest that she would write something for those around my age who grew up reading the Potter series because the Strike novels fulfilled that prophecy on both counts.
Two of my favourite people! I had never seen this before - thank you for the upload!
A magical mix. Thank u!
I have listened to the whole series read by Stephen Fry. He is the best reader of Harry Potter. Absolutely fabulous. His recording is no longer available on CZcams. (The person reading under his name currently on CZcams is awful.)
If you google Harry Potter audiobook, scroll down you’ll find a few website with all the books on. Should be on the first page, I can’t post links. But you should be able to find it easily enough
@@Rawc90 I too listened the entire book from that website
potteraudio.com/category/stephen-fry/
Jim Dale is better, as a voice actor he s on a much higher level
Great discussion/interview. Lovely people both.
I've never read any of the Harry Potter books, let alone seen the films (the first one put me off) but I could listen to Stephen Fry reading The Telephone Directory (if they still exist) and still be utterly captivated.
The films are far less enjoyable than the books. I've read all the books; I gave up on the films after the third one because I just couldn't take any more.
Stephen Fry should play Dumbledore in the series remake, which must come eventually. He'll probably be the proper age too. He's just perfect for this role.
at the very end she's talking about the Ikabog.
That was simply charming.... Thank you Stephen & Jo :D
Loved Stephen’ comment about Stanley Baxter; brought back memories of Christmas pantos.
What a nice interview AND couple 😁
I really love to listen to Stephen's voice to leave the day behind and slither into the night. So far I have listened to The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, and I am ready for something new. This will be it. Harry Potter.
Thanks for the upload 🤝🇳🇱
He does a calm sleep story called blue gold, I fall to sleep to it every night. You can get it free on CZcams 😊
Stephen could read the phone book and I'd be just as invested, but if I had to recommend an audiobook, that would definitely be Puskin's Eugene Onegin. Also, try one of his latest books, Mythos and Heroes.
@@msbecks7004 😴
I have it in my bedroom on a separate player, which allows me to listen any time. And yes , I also have a small bag filled with lavender to sniff 😊
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@@Ian.D. Exactly 👍🤝
sherlock Holmes is a 70 hours Audiobook on Audible which is worth every cent, Fry's voice is soothing and exciting at once, gooid for listening AND sleeping :)
I had no idea that he recorded the audiobooks while the books were new. I've listened and re-listened and re-listened. I could manage no one else doing the job.
I also listen again and again. The "Potty loves Loony!" (the last one when he's zoomed away) is one of the highlights. His renditions of Luna, Hagrid and Slughorn are fantastic. The little dialogue between Harry and Luna when he's asking her to theSlug dinner is done perfectly.
Extraordinary conversation!
I love Stephen Fry's Lockhart voice. So smarmy and salesman like, I love it.
This conversation about Hogwarts is exactly what separates a good Dungeonmaster from a great Dungeonmaster.
Just ask Matt Mercer from Critical Role.
The camera pans out very slowly during the course of this video. I only noticed because Jo’s high heel kept getting higher...
Now, there’s two people I would love to have to dinner!
This was so beautiful to listen to. Thank you for sharing it.
I tried saying _"Harry pocketed it"_ ... and I had the exact same problem with the line that Stephen did.
But, if I just rewrite it as _"Harry pockeh tidit"_ it just works! It seems that the problem only occurs when my brain knows where the word ends ; ) Since realising this trick of breaking the words in different places I've managed a number of tongue-twisters that I couldn't previously XD
Brilliant!
To be fair the phrase "Harry pocketed it" is actually hard to say in the flow of things.
Depends if you hit the k or the c.. Poc ket Ed it is easy but pock eted it isn't
Two of most favourite literary personalities
She makes me light headed. And that's a good thing.
Know what you mean; just as well it was audio only!
Thank you for uploading this wonderful talk.
Well, I guess I'm going to read them again...
She is amazing, thank you for posting this.
Very nice talk.
Beautiful. Both such treasures!
I was bent double, clutching my sides amid sobs of hilarity listening to Stephen Fry do Aunt Muriel speaking to Elphias Doge at Bill and Fleur's wedding. Now I go about my day's spotting old "ladies" that mimic old pink flamingo's and demanding service everywhere reminding everyone of her age all the while gossiping loudly and shamelessly about some poor unfortunate soul who can't defend themselves at that particular moment.
could anyone explain what did she mean of " break back into school" in 2:12? did she mean pupil would got detentions every week?
I was hoping this was recent and Stephen was going to ask her some important questions
*specific recent questions, not downplaying the questions here x
Anyone resistant to today's imperio curses is deemed to possess "White Fragility" or "Tansphobia"... (depending on who cast the spell)
@@differous01 ummmm yes?
What would you ask her?
@@evesapple easy, could you lend me £20?
@@evesapple How she feels about being cursed by actors she made famous.
Legit thought that thumbnail was Richard and Judy
I have to say i have so much respect for Miss jk Rowling, i have never read any of her books ,but as a person she is a roll model for young girls ,
And as for Mr S Fry he is an incredible intelligent and a all round nice person
I could quite happily sit in his company and just listen to him talk on any subject mesmerized. Only great Britain can produce talent like these two .
When did this interview happen? Cause this obviously took place before Deathly Hallows came out in 2007.
I want to know if Stephen Fry genuinely shouts when he sits down. *Barrgh!*
I think Stephen Fry is a wonderful actor and comedian; and he has hosted some magnificent British TV shows (Q. I. being a superb offering). Nevertheless, I genuinely didn’t like his reading of the HP series. I preferred Jim Dale’s rendition.
The reason being that throughout the entire story, I couldn’t release myself from the notion that it was Stephen Fry reading the books; and therefore, it detracted from the overall experience.
Conversely, I was able to immerse myself completely into J.K.’s works, while Jim Dale read it; and I never once felt distracted from the story. I know that some people have harped on about his portrayal of Hermione, but it never presented a problem to me. Under the circumstances, wherein he was somewhat rushed into sitting through the reading of the first book, I think he managed quite well.
I‘ll always like Fry... just not reading the HP books. 🤪
Mick Psyphon 🥘⚽️
What an interesting experience. I have both and very much prefer SF because I favour Hermione over all others and Jims version of her makes me want to tear my hair out :) I had no idea others felt the same. It's lovely that we all like different versions :)
@@pernilleostergaard5078
Absolutely! It's all personal preference. Some people like Chocolate ice cream, others prefer strawberry... which is better? It's all a matter of personal preference.
I think Fry is best in his element as a raconteur... regaling us with stories of things that have occurred. As a narrator, he'll always be Stephen Fry first (to me), which is a testament to his success in all other things he does.
In defense of Jim, his portrayal of Hermione improved with the later books. I genuinely can't fault him for it, because his repertoire of unique character voices for all the characters in the books was pretty darned good. In this respect, it was a much greater range than what Fry offered; and as such, was all the more magical to me.
The world owes this woman a huge debt for her work to encourage children to read.
Well she is a multimillionaire so I think it is paid
Not so much for the trans kids that will be reading her.....and they will.
@@palmereldritch7777 go away snowflake
@@ankymrn Dear Anna, if you got nothing better to do in your life than insult people you don't know, you are one sorry muggle. Not melting here.
@@ankymrn Piss off!
why is this only 27 minutes long
Thought it was Richard and Judy!!
Vote Fry for HBO's Dumbledore
Haven't read HP (anyone else?) but very much enjoyed their conversation.
Whaaaaaaaa
I avoid massively popular new fiction simply because it is omnipresent in media and I feel a lack of privacy to read in. After listening to JK Rowling and Stephen Fry, I look forward to hearing Mr. Fry's recordings of Ms. Rowling's words. Still can't do Tolkien.
I like that as anti-cleric as he is he can mention when he finds admirable characteristics in someone like the Archbishop of Canterbury.
An ex of mine used to deal in antique occult books • One of her frequent clients was Dr. Rowan Williams, who was - at that time- the Archbishop of Canterbury...
Loved it!
27:40 has never gone so quickly 😍
Rumor has it there staring in frozen 3.
Amazing how he said he relates to dumbledore and they are both gay but he didn’t know
Find it really annoying to watch this knowing that I cannot at all easily legally get Stephen Fry's version of the audiobooks here in Canada. I'm sure Jim Dale did a decent job, but this interview is wasted on me...
Yes you can get them, just as I can get American things here in Europe! The secret is: CD audiobooks bought for you here in EU and recorded or sent to you in hardware. I did so in buying the American HP hardcover book edition in the US but then ordering from amazon com directly the actual newest book before it appeared. And every time it was delivered in time.
Classic!
Two in intelligent people talking, what more could you want away from some of the drivel today!
Stephen Fry will be, one day, play the role Dumbledore in later version of Harry Potter!
I think I could see him play any of Hagrid, Lupin, Dumbledore, Olivander, Marvolo Gaunt or Slughorn!
Stephen does a great job as a reader on AUDIBLE!, check him out. The mans a fucking tart of whim and a king of literature.. And i love him so much for it. Even though i have no joy for Literature at all. i just like books.
Jk is an elegant self actualised woman…a model for human existence 🙏🙏🏿
i mean she doesn't like trans people but ok...
@@saint3211 She hasn't said that she doesn't like trans people.
@@noraanderson3503 lol she didnt have to, ill be honest tho idgaf
@@saint3211 then why has she supported several transpeople ? You are a liar
@@noraanderson3503 facts thank you for saying this
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What?
Or you can master the skill of occlumency.
They both can be true Stephen, the excitement and relaxation of a fantasy world and fear of the unknown walk hand in hand in a well told story. You know this to be true, yet you state otherwise...smh.
I don’t know about you but it seems to me counter intuitive to cast fear and relaxation into one bucket. I personally struggle to be relaxed if I’m truly fearful. But that’s not to say you can’t *enjoy* the journey into the unknown, but experiencing genuine fear of what’s to come, and excitement about discovery are quite different, wouldn’t you agree?
My two favourite people!
Wait, who's Joe?
Joanne Rowling
Oh, thank you. Have a lovely day!
Dolan ")
An English boarding school - in Scotland???
Love this. Two lovely, intelligent and kind people.
#istandwithjk
#istandagaisntbullying
by standing with jk you stand for bullying trans people
galigoth
8:50. Yep. That is exactly why JK Rowlings view of mythology is more correct than JRR Tolkien's.
No offense towards Middle Earth for the idea of giving England its own mythical epics
but Tolkien disregarding the pagan natives as 'people trying in there own vain way to understand
the greater christian picture' or worse 'heathens under the sway of evil' like his initial treatment
of the Narnia story's was deeply disrespectful on Tolkien's part.
They'd see eye-to-eye on their love of English Language but apart of them both writing about
unlikely heroes the two authors can't be any more different.
They are so clever. That’s nice clever bye the way.
Wonder what he thinks of her nowadays.
They’re still friends. Jo being pro-woman doesn’t mean she’s anti-trans and he’s intelligent enough to know the difference. Stephen Fry was happy to accept her offer of narrating her latest work The Ickerbog, released in 2020
@@catherinerobilliard7662 I was joking. I don't JKR is anti-trans at all.
@@catherinerobilliard7662 thank you for your comment :)
I really enjoyed the books despite her constant one sided sermonizing. When I found out how close they resembled “The Worst Witch” series I found it more difficult to enjoy them as it doesn’t appear that JK ever credited that author for inspiration never mind substantial plot, theme etc.
Can you elaborate on the "one sided sermonizing" comment?
@@lapelcelery42 she's been very public about holding some pretty unsavoury opinions around members of certain minority groups.
@@thomasball5287 What a crock of shit: she defends the rights of women
@@lapelcelery42 which minority groups?
@@noraanderson3503 I think you might have tagged the wrong Thomas in that comment, but I'd like to hear the answer too.
When I read the Harry Potter books (and I have actually never heard any of Stephen Fry's Audio Book versions), I did find them to be derivative of so many other works of similar story and character types. Also I did not like the way she wrote, the use of language seemed a bit amateurish compared to authors of say Terry Pratchett's quality, and often I found that the books were overwritten, too unprecise and verbose at the same time. Of all the books it was Order Of The Phoenix that I just had problems reading, to the extent I very nearly gave up reading it altogether. I was younger then and had some idea that once I started something I had to finish it, no matter how bad it was, but these days I've got over that and if I am reading something that is just to terrible than I will toss it. Phoenix was just so badly written that it actually worked. Strange to say, but yes it worked. I became depressing to read and suited the mood of the book. I will say that Rowling does have a sense of flow to her writing that makes it easy to read, almost a conversation, and it is that element, I think, that made her books so popular. Yes there is detail, and the story is pretty good, but getting there was often what I found bad in the writing, the plan of it was not good. Have you ever read the series backward? You'll notice that the first books are harder to read because they were more childish, the series just seemed to grow up as it went along, as did the character. Given that JK Rowling was a full adult when she began writing these novels makes the aging of character and books interesting, it means that perhaps she had some conscious thought of how she was writing them, that she was writing each in a particular style that grew with each passing installment. Not an unintelligent thing to do. The obvious question not asked in this interview, was did any of the different versions of the story adaptions, be it the audio version, or the films, influence the books in any way. The definitive answer is probably yes, as in another interview I heard or read somewhere she stated that she had not guessed certain details about certain characters before she saw them portrayed on screen and realized that that was what she intended for the characters. All food for thought.
I think that if there’s one thing that made the Harry Potter series in particular so beloved out of all the children’s adventure stories out there, it’s the humour and fun of the whole thing (how delicious is the idea of witches and wizards living right under our very noses? Not to mention the idea of children just like the reader going to school and worrying about homework/mean teachers/fitting in/etc but learning how to use magic in an enchanted castle instead of boring stuff like maths in a mundane brick building.) Really, it’s everything a child or even an adult could want in a wish fulfilment fantasy. The reader-insert having powerful magic, having adults willing to fight and even die for him, the plots of the “good guys” and “bad guys” revolving around him, and ultimately being the hero of the entire world.
Its really not right , I mean its very PROBLEMATIC , for a middle aged woman to write from the perspective of a teenage boy. Its racist. Sorry not racist , I mean its cultural appropriation. Oh not that one either, ..um...well its certainly one of those woke things which are unacceptable.
"After reading "Order of the Phoenix" I realized you are so cruel to him."
an author is nothing more than a professional asshole. make a character and do all you can to poke, prod, test and provoke them.
Social media is where the ineffectual get to ignore their worthlessness. I get the irony, I'm just being a troll now. A troll that hopefully breaks the attraction for these poor, sad people.
Alas, if only Stephen was hetero inclined... they would have made a wonderful cerebrally compatible couple... just wishfully wistfully wondering...💑💑💑😇😇😇
Well JK found love with a man who deserves her and Stephen is rightfully comfortable in his sexuality
Interesting.
I haven't watched / Listened to the video yet, but I am hoping he will reflect on J.K. being a Terf.
Edit: Now I realize when this was done, and also that this was just a fluff piece
They are not women. JK is right
Told everyone real facts. Dude you are just another resentful Misogynist using hate speech against a woman who survived domestic violence and who has received thousands of rape and death threats
Stop supporting transgenderism.
Why is J.K. Rowling's plot is so fucked up?
Magical suicide of Lily, empty Book No.6.
Fuck that.
I wonder seem as he is gay she considers him to be a person with the same rights she has
This comment is ignorant beyond belief.
@@RB-mq6em well she doesnt consider trans people to have any rights so why would she make an exception for gay people
@@proevoisace7 She hasn’t commented on trans people’s rights; she merely said that the word for ‘people who have periods’ is ‘women’, and has refused to be bullied into changing her mind. She and Stephen Fry have been friends for years. She also said in an interview that Dumbledore is gay. She is a genuine liberal, so don’t believe all the hype and rubbish that is said about her.
@@RB-mq6em I've seen her comments and that isnt what she has said, she obviously has an agenda and it is widely agreed her comments have been vile and dehumanising, I didnt believe it at first and gave her the benefit of the doubt as I dont believe what is reported in the media most of the time so thought I'd look into it myself and she is just an awful woman, when you have people like daniel Radcliffe coming out against her you know theres a problem and to say there isnt is worrying
@@RB-mq6em also saying she has gay friends is the equivalent of a racist saying oh my brother in law is black, who gives a shit, they are still racist and she is still trans phobic
This is where Stephen and I part ways. I really can't stand Harry Potter.
I'm sure he's very sad about that.
I am sure neither will lose sleep.
Shame, you used to be so close, lol
Same. But that's me personally, each to their own I always say.
Why are you watching and commenting on this video then dipshit.
Stephen Fry reading HP: 11 out of 10
Warner Bros HP movies: 1 out of 10
Sorry, I just can't stand the big time watering down of a classic. The music is to "big score". The scripts are rushed, the scenes are rushed, the is no humour. Terrible casting.
Look at THE DURRELL'S, BBC MERLIN.
One day HP will be done 1 whole season for each book as it deserves.
Stephen Fry's reading is magnificent.
FIY for the defenders, you don't have to have a graduate degree to understand the basics of biology... There are variants in genetic sex. Same in anatomical sex. And yes, hormonal sex.
If you are going to point to "female sex" as being restricted to people capable of producing large gametes - any "female" who doesn't produce ovules would, consequently, no longer be considered female. Not all "females" with the JKR seal of approval actually menstruate. So... they are not female? Females are females only when they are able to breed?
The reality is that there are an infinite combination of biological genders. The fact you don't know that, doesn't make what she said true. Opinions are not facts. I know, what a shocker.
Taking all of this in consideration, what she said is that transgender women are not women. She used her vast platform to spread spread a hurtful and dangerous message while posing as socially liberal and inclusive. Her message is transphobic. If you agree with her, you are also transphobic. Which is your right. Just own it and don't try to deny it.
I long for a time before JK came out as a TERF... It is seriously sad when people refuse to review their position or just admit they are wrong. I guess her ego, after all these years of being adored, admired and becoming absurdly wealthy, makes her think she is infallible. Otherwise, why double down on such a blatant mistake?
Not one single person has ever implied that ALL women menstruate, or that you are only a woman if you menstruate. Post-menopausal and infertile women exist in substantial numbers, and nobody’s suggesting that they cease to become women!
What IS stated, and what is irrefutable biological fact, is that it is ONLY females who can menstruate. Menstruation, pregnancy, lactation can only occur in someone with female anatomy. Someone male-born can have all the surgeries and HRT in the world and that will still be a physical impossibility.
Most trans people know and accept this fact. It’s a radical, destructive, and grossly intolerant minority of people (many of whom aren’t even trans themselves) who are intent on pretending otherwise.
Take your own advice, review your position and stop erasing women.
GeorgiaDCA: absolutely silly. There is no such thing as biological genders. There is something called biological sex and then there is something called gender, which is a social construct. A trans woman is a woman gender wise but not a woman biologically. There are not an infinite number of biological sexes, as you suggest, but rather men, women and people that are intersex of which there are sub categories. The one thing you are right about is that opinions are not facts so stop spewing BS.
@@MrJimmytheweed Well said.
What a load of bullshit.
How doth he feels about her transphobia TERF nonsense
Stephen Fry isn't really woke. He is also extremely intelligent so i'd imagine he agrees with her. Or at the very least defend her. Don't forget that Fry debated alongside Jordan Peterson against 2 woke people not too long ago. Sensible man is Mr Fry.
@@lucasmucas2807 He did also explicitly say that he and Peterson didn't necessarily have huge crossover on opinions, or words to similar effect. He just particularly agreed with him on the free speech issue. Thank God he did because he was the only one in that debate who said much of any use. The other two misrepresented and demonised Peterson for the duration, and he spent his whole time defending himself.
@@lapelcelery42
Indeed. And i have no doubt that Fry and Peterson would debate quite happily against each other on other topics.
Sign of a healthy mind.
@@lucasmucas2807 Yep. Agreed.
@kaiser Saucey
Kaiser Saucey that's a real cute screen name.
You can't help wanting to like Rowling. She IS likable. It's just sad that her views on trans people has become so toxic when she could be such a powerful ally. I kept wishing he'd ask her the hard questions about that.
This was recorded in 2005. And since when is it “toxic” to say that sex is different from gender identity, or that only females can menstruate? Do you have no understanding of biology?
@@CorwinFound sorry I don’t agree with you. She’s not toxic , aggressive trans activists are.
Sad to see people who read her books have no reading comprehension at all.
The only toxic thing is peoples reactions to her views .
Shes not transphobic if you actually read and listen to what she said.
@@ohwellwhateverr The bizarre thing is, trans men who menstruate understand very well that they’re not cis men. Trans people know gender and sex are not the same thing. 🤔 So what is your confusion?
Two very sick people, extremely intoxicated by progressivism.
You enjoy listening to sick people I suppose.
@@L_Martin - I have. Not any more!
Well, in JK 's case, progressivism hit back violently. It also did that to Ian Mackellen when he tried to speak nicely about Kevin Spacy. Progressivism is a trend that kills it's own children.
In what way are they sick, may I ask? Waiting for your illuminating reply impatientley.
They're not progressives. Neither am I. They're liberals. Big difference.