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- čas přidán 16. 08. 2024
- A simple explanation of Occam's Razor with a couple of examples to help you grasp this mental model.
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You made the important distinction of using Occam's Razor once you've gathered all facts and evidence and not before. People tend to jump to the simplest conclusion being the correct one without having all the data in hand. Very good to include.
Thanks for recognizing that. Like all tools, it's easy to abuse a razor to get what you want or to just unwittingly get a bad result.
having more data to base our resulting conclusion requires many decades for us, "not born with a fully functional brain"
Very true ,lots of data, And experience, and a habit of being brutally honest, ho est when is Unpleasant to discover the truth.....
I actually don't agree with that. Occam's Razor is arguably most useful in the absence of data. Once you have enough data and factual evidence to prove a hypothesis, there isn't much practical use for Occam's Razor.
For example: a former government employee testifies in Congress that aliens are real. In the absence of any evidence one way or the other, what is more likely: that intelligent alien life has arrived undetected on earth and its existence is being kept secret from the 8 billion people who live here, or that a human being lied/was mistaken in Congress? Occam's Razor would clearly suggest the latter.
The distinction that should be made is that Occam's Razor is useful in making statements of probability, not definitive ones. You can't state definitively that it's a train and not wildebeest, but in the absence of any other evidence, it will do.
I've tried to explain this to people but wasn't as successful as you were here. Thank you.
My pleasure!
Years ago I worked for a naval architect who designed racing yachts which is a pretty fast moving science wrapped in a lot of mythology and misinformation. Alan taught me about Occams's razor. His first question on any project was 'What do we know? Often we discovered that we did not know very much because new technology had arrived or something had changed. What this enabled us to do was find a starting point - a baseline - from which to build the new project from facts. Even today people still say I must have learned so much from this humble genius. No. Only one thing, I always respond. How to think.
Great comment-thanks. Yeah, knowing what questions to ask is always so powerful and starting with "what do we know?" seems like a winner.
🤔very cool...had an Art teacher in high school ,he explained that he was not trying to teach us HOW to draw ,or 🎨....instead he was teaching us How to Learn to draw ,how to SEE , teachers are like training wheels on a Bicycle....there are there to help a person get Momentum.....A person has To want to learn,..... sorry I forgot to use Occoms razor in this long comment
Good, son!! I taught you well!! I can now return to my eternal peace of slumber in the great-land of furniture made out of fruit gushers.
How lucky you were to know him. And what an interesting job to have!
This is probably the best comment I've read in a very long time!
Best explanation I've seen. Clear and complete. Thanks.
Thank you!
The most irritating part about Occam's Razor is its name when you don't know what it is. Thank you for an excellent explanation.
Glad I could help! ;)
Something that I learned today - Occam's razor states "Do not multiply entities beyond necessity" which says nothing about simplicity, hence the razor is misconstrued. It talks about unnecessary complexity being superfluous
It's the law of parsimony. Things should be as simple as necessary, or stated another way, they should be no more complex than necessary. You don't understand the elimination of unnecessary complexity as the process of simplification?
great stuff! such a concise explanation of Occam's Razor. Thank you!
Thanks! Glad you found it helpful.
@@MikeGastin you dont understand sarcasm ..lol
Excellent explanation, and somewhat using the theory itself. You taught this very well, from various angles both positive and negative and easily understood in less than 6 minutes!
Great, simple, and clear explanation!
Thanks!
Beautifully explained. Thanks a lot was the entire explanation. This was really insightful
Thank you!
That is a nice, clear, and precise explanation. Thanks!
Thanks!
This was fantastic!! I didn’t want it to end 😭😭😭
Haha! And I worked hard to make it nice and short. 😂
Wow, that looks incredible! You've done a great job on the project. Keep up the great work and let us know if you need any help!
Ima leave this comment before hand. Idk how this works but I heard it in passing.
Its about using the basics and fundamentals of whatever field or fields you're working on and apply them to figure things out instead of over complicating things or relying on a multitude of opinions
I thought the theory correctly stated is not that the simplest explanation is the best one BUT rather that the simplest explanation is the one most likely to be believed irrespective of its truth or otherwise.
Thank you for the best explanation of this and of its history. Also, I'm a photographer and I love your lighting in this video!
What a nice compliment-thank you! And I’m glad the vid helped.
Well explained
Thank you!
"For every complex problem, there's a solution that is simple, neat, and wrong." H.L. Mencken
Good old Mencken, the acerbic critic of representative democracy.
This is a nice concept, thank you for sharing.
Thanks, brother. Hope you're well.
This is going to put a damper on all my conspiracy theories.
No so fast! Sometimes the best conspiracy theories make perfect sense once you have enough data. They only seem complex and unlikely when we don't see the full picture. 😉
@@MikeGastin I was going to make a comment about the battle between common sense and science and the application of Occam's razor - but none of the drafts I wrote had anything close to a point. ha.
I thought it was a pretty good comment-made me smile.
Hi Mike.
Always some good food for thought. Thanks.
You alluded to the point that certain professions need to be more careful with this rule of thumb than others, and I would say that makes all the difference.
I prefer that my doctor (to which you alluded) to focus on other possibilities so I get checked to rule out dangerous things, but my landscaper can use this to his or her heart's content.
Thanks for sharing.
No, Frank. Thank YOU for sharing. 👊🏼😂
Seriously, you bring up a good point, if I'm understanding you correctly. The weight of the situation should factor in. Even so, I think whatever the situation, it would be a misapplication of the razor to not get enough info first. Maybe the issue is what constitutes "enough".
Hope you're well, brother. Thanks for watching and commenting.
I sometimes think of this concept as
Occam’s “funnel” a series of narrowing funnels
Rather than cutting chances in half or quarter…
Life is a random set of cascading channels 🙏🏻
Great video, great channel.
Thank you!🙏🏼
Great video!
Thanks!
I would state it as Explainatory entities or elements are not to be multiplied beyond the necessity set by what saves the appearances. Where 'saves the appearances' means addresses the phenomenon in question.
A corollary of Ocham's Razor is that an explanation may be complex as necessary when addressing a complex phenomena, say multiple contexts.
Well explained with a simple explanation . I think the reason humans go for the simpler explanation in some situations , example-- a frightening situation , is because we are created by a God who cares about us and wants us to keep things simple so that we may flourish .
I think you're right.
I didn't know the interesting back story. I always assumed Willam had originated it. By the way, this happens to be my favorite razor. I have been shaving questionable dogma with it for years after I discovered it in a philosophy book. My favorite videos are those where you explain a thinking framework. I still use Smart Notes and OODA loops which you recommended many moons ago. It would be wonderful if you created a regular flow of these bite-sized, eloquently described cognitive tools.
Salem! You’ve uncovered my plan. Haha. I have a long list of mental models that I put together in order to produce videos highlighting one at a time. This was the first one! I’m grateful that you watch and that you find some of my content useful. Thanks for letting me know you’d like more of these. 👍🏼
You're enriching my mind one video at a time. I can't wait to see what else comes down the pipeline.
@@MikeGastin It's likely that you've got the revised version of Bloom's Taxonomy on your list of mental models that you're about to roll out to the unsuspecting public. Just in case you don't, I would like to suggest it. Aside from winning lots of likes and gaining a plethora of thrilled subscribers, you will transform lives because it is an underrated yet effective way for learners to assess their proficiency in any academic field.
Thank you sir, great video......
Thank you, good sir. 🙏🏼
Very good lecture! Thumbs up
Why, thank you!
@@MikeGastin I love the presentation
A man buys a painting of a beautiful scene. He loves it and appreciates the skill of the artist. He goes to the site the artist was at to make the painting. He sees “the original “ scene! Even more amazing! So “who” created the original?
Occam applies. The simplest explanation is a superior intelligence. But that upsets half of us. Better to theorise. But each theory gets scientifically updated. 1950’s a simple cell just divided. 1970’s no cell is simple. 1980’s DNA 🧬 is in each cell and must divide perfectly all “by itself”. But at some point the cell has to produce a “bone” cell. Another “blood” cell.... talk about complexity to avoid the original concept. It gets more complicated. Slime....to Audrey Hepburn by sheer unmotivated chance? Methinks a razor is needed.
Only. It takes a PhD to believe some of the nonsense our society embraces. We mock "simple" people for not being sophisticated enough to understand the science, but often it is the simple and unencumbered soul that can know the truth.
thanks. clean and simple. just like occams razor
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Thanks for this video!
It’s a pleasure! 😀
You gave the perfect shave.
We strive to use nothing but the highest quality razors here at Mike Gastin Industries. 😆
Excellent video
Thank you!
POV: came from 3 body problems
Haha! Cool. Thanks for stopping by. ;)
Most of us😂😂😂😂
Came from Jordan Peterson vs Destiny debate
@@jonathansaindon788 Very cool. I still need to watch that one!
Thank you
Excellent oratory!
Thank you! (Clearly you have wonderful taste.)
Indeed! 💎
Mr. Gastin, I am an avid student of the Assassination of President John F
Kennedy. I am NOT an expert however I would say that through all my studies I have learned more than the average person on the street. With that being said how can Occam's Razor be used in solving the Kennedy Assassination. I believe that I have a pretty good idea what really happened however I do not know for sure. Your expert feedback would be invaluable. Thank You.
Someone tried to correct me in the youtube comments with Occams Razor, saying the simplest explanation is what's usually the correct one,
I corrected him that my original comment was actually Oocams razor and he was just using it as just thinking the worst in people. The funny thing was another video came out to explain the original video amd my oocams razor was actually correct
Welcome to the internet where fools are convinced they're brilliant and good people get punished.
Then its really William's Razor. He LIVED in Occam. If I had thought of it, it would have to be called Fort Lauderdale's Razor. 😊
Haha! Fair enough.
We should probably call TV outlets and intelligence agencies as Occam's Razor machines :D
I think he is mis applying the concept of extrapolation vis a vis Ockhams Razor. If one tries to gather as much information "as possible" in order to reach a conclusion you will never reach your answer. Conversely, by applying the concept of "Thin Slicing", ie. drawing a conclusion by relying on first instinct, studies show you will be right the majority of the time. Read Malcolm Gladwell's "Blink".
“As possible” is a problem. Maybe “as is reasonable” would be better.
Occum to Occam Mandella Efect!
I think a lot of people misconstrue Occam's Razor to be a law. It's just a razor; a way to help prioritize options.
this guys mustache is lit
😂😂😂
He does have a College Professor looking beard......
@@SchrödingersMath YES
Hello! May I ask if frameworks/diagram are necessary to Occam's Razor in ways of showing simplicity? Then, I further discuss it through paragraphs. I have a assignment that is related to this and I am really confused on what should I do.
I'm sorry. I'm not sure I can help. There may be diagrams for this, but really, I understand it as a thought experiment rather than a technical system. So, you would use reason to determine what is the simplest explanation. Even so, the simplest is merely the most likely to be right and is not necessarily the right answer.
@@MikeGastin Thank you very much for replying. I really appreciate it.
It feels like “think outside the box” to me sometimes
I am here after watching 3 Body Problem.... who else is here for the same. 😁☺
I need to watch that. I assume they talk about Occam’s Razor in it.
i thought the rumbling sound was an intergalactic space engine from the year AD58319that was on a quest to find a lost ancestor of the owner of the intergalactic space engine and ask whether they really dropped a 1 cent coin into a drain
I mean, seems pretty logical ... 😂
5:43 * new subbie
Question: What's the name of your music @ this timestamp?? ❤
I had to dive into the archives for this one: "Under the Tide" by Gregory David. I got it from Epidemic Sound. Hope that helps! And, thanks for subbing. I'm working on new content now so keep an eye out.
Thank you for this ... 🫣😶🌫️
It’s a pleasure!
A shipmate (navy/leonard francis scandal) suggested me to look into this theory
I believe I'm going thru this sadly. Procurement of a very important asset 🫣 don't know whom to turn to or trust
I hope you're able to navigate the decision well. Not sure why it's so fraught with mistrust, but can you find an advisor? Someone who doesn't have anything to gain and has experience? Also, can you look at similar decisions made before your's? Can you see what others did and how they made their choice? Anyway, all the best!
Could you use Occam's razor to approach the problem of life in other planets?
You can use it to *think* about the possibility of life on other planets, but I'm not certain I can answer that question satisfactorily.
@@MikeGastin When I use Occam's razor to think about life in other planets it gets very clear to me that there's no life in other planets. And there's no reason to believe it.
Thank you sir. I got a bit smarter
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The less the better
And here I was waiting for a some sort cliche' ending punchline .."Now if you all can excuse me while I go shave .." or something along those line .. 🤭🤗
Slit my wrists
I love you too.
;)
I think an obvious explanation would be contradictory to a thought process considering no thought is required to solve the puzzle since the answer is made apparent. Bad example I feel.
I dunno, knowing NYC it might have been the wild beasts lol 😊
You're probably right! Lol
Anyone else her from bstchld?
So like we know water at rest is simply always level no matter over what distance, yet pseudo science tells us it’s curved with complex confusion?
I feel like this is a thought ending parable or saying as to stop you from diving into something. I get It's really to say don't get too crazy with your theories. You could drive yourself mad but in all reality it's thought ending. Or it's telling you not to think too deeply into it.
I think when the information is available, dive in. But when it’s not and you have to make sense of something, simplicity is your friend.
The German military during WW2 made too many experimental weapons that had to be designed and testing instead of making more tanks and planes which they needed, that already worked.
But it could be African waterbuffalo
Seems plausible.
Tabu LA oc cam's razoir. Endless details est le diable aussi... Once the tabula has beeen erased... Tab Hunter Con.
Bro talks like we can't think that way without learning about OcComS rAZoR
Thanks, Mike for the excellent explanation! I would like to highlight a point here that I alwyas try to avoid. To mention "the rule of thumb". People is likely to use this expression and they don't realise how bad its origin is. The "Rule of thumb" comes from medieval times when a man should not beat his woman with a stick thicker than his thumb! Which I think it's disgusting, to say the least. So, as a rule of thumb, I avoid to use the expression "the rule of thumb". Cheers and keep up the good work! Be happy🤗‼️
Jorge, I'll go one better. As a rule of thumb, never, ever beat your wife. 😉
I think that if you bring Occam's Razor to bear on the wife-beating theory it will be found wanting.
Wife beating is always found wanting.
Bombast, negates rational thought
Hopefully, I'm not too bombastic in this video. 😂
@ 4:59 tell that to German engineers. Holy f*ck talk about doing to much to complete a simple job
As a long-time owner of German cars, I know exactly what you're talking about. 😂
@@MikeGastin I run my own small mechanic business in Phoenix AZ. The times I've worked on German cars I've lost a little piece 🤏🏽 of me everytime 😅
0:31. I think 'ten-dollar word' was meant, not 'ten-cent word'.
I blame it on inflation.
As a theist I recently brought this up in part as an argument against multiverse theory.
I told my friend if anyone believes multiverse theory (in the context of excluding design) over design, they can never doubt a wife that goes for groceries at 8:00pm on Wednesday and comes home at 8:05pm Thursday claiming she decided to wait and doesn't understanding the missing day except some kind of time warp. In an infinite number of universes there could easily be a time warp in one spot in the universe that occupies one person.
If you wouldn't accept her non-explanation in full then you are not a true multiverse believer. In general if you believe multiverse theory explains things you open yourself up to be very gullible and a sucker beyond what one might accuse a theist of.
I suspect most multi-verse believers would default to suspecting their wife of infidelity given your example. ;)
U have ockam razored ur hair and not ur beard was ur hair not necessary to you 😂
I am build for speed, my brother. 😎
Using Occam’s Razor I assume his hair doesn’t grow on top of his head
Seems like a reasonable assumption. 😅
"hey satan"
???
People who came from btschild:
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If people would read history enough, they'd call this out that a big majority of what we call today a Roman, Greek or recently for obvious reasons (!!!) Brit, are actually from ancient and old Persian even after attacks of barbarians like Mongols and Arabs/Islam.
People don't read history enough. If they did our world would not be doing the absolutely stupid things it is doing right now.
💝💝💝💝💝💝. 🍌
Was all in for the hearts but it’s the banana that brings me up short. 😂
Try explaining this to Qanon supporters
Lol. Hundreds of thousands indictments coming any day now ....
Can you explain white supremacy's razor...!?
Uh ....?
This razor fails. Solipsism is the simplest explanation.
Solipsism may be simple, but it explains nothing. It’s more of a rationalization than an explanation.
@@MikeGastin It explains everything - all is in your mind.
@@Contagious93812 Are you telling me that you don't really exist? If I can just get my mind to believe I'm a 27-year-old, trust-fund kid ...
@@MikeGastin No, i don't hold to Occam's razor. I think the principle fails because it leads to solipsism.
And I’m not trying to antagonize you. Comments are hard to decipher at times. I can see your point. I don’t think solipsism is a reasonable explanation for anything, as it creates more questions than it answers. But I realize you’re not arguing. It’s a good point.
If you applied Occams Razor this video would of been 3:02 minutes long and got the message across with greater clarity.
You repeat yourself for emphasis on simple points ...just once is enough.
Your syntax needs some work. 2/10
Oh and they are Wilder Beast not water Buffalo ... you know SFA.
And the academic props ( books, black rimmed glasses and manicured grey beard ) cant hide your obvious deficiencies
it's great for me to find the simplest explanation of it when in searching actually one.
Glad to help! Thanks for the note. 👍🏼
4:10 that is why you are told by the doctor or the instructions for use coming with medicine, to contact doctor if there is no improvement after expected period. Not the period of expected to be cured. No improvement as expected would then indicate that further testing needed.
100%
Trougleshooting 101 - simple solution is also the most common one. Always check no matter how absurd it may be.
"Did you check to see if it's plugged in?"