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- What if an entire city decided to go electric? This one is. Step into Oslo, Norway.
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What if an entire city decided to go electric? Imagine a place where trams glide silently through the streets, buses hum along emitting no fumes, and even the ferries that cross the waters are powered solely by electricity.
Welcome to Oslo, Norway, where electrification has become a way of life. Oslo is on a mission to achieve a nearly 100% reduction in greenhouse gas emissions by 2030 compared to 2009 levels. They're electrifying everything from construction sites to scooters, with a focus on the construction and transportation sectors, which contribute the most to emissions. Electric cars have become the norm, thanks to government policies that incentivize their adoption. Oslo's ferries are now the world's first all-electric passenger ferries.
The city's determination to tackle climate change is not only inspiring but also raises an intriguing question: Can a single city's electrification efforts ignite a global movement toward a cleaner, greener future?
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How do you think cities should switch off fossil fuels?
I’d like current construction equipment used within a city to be fueled by a bio-based fuel, preferably a recycled or reclaimed source. We have millions of heavy diesel equipment within feet or blocks of people breathing their exhaust but we can create a home-grown, local industry to power these otherwise heavy polluters.
Include low-tech where possible, walkable neighbourhoods etc, so quality of life is improved - trust and friendliness are built.
@@ttopero Bio-based fuel still causes toxic exhaust, though. I think Oslo shows that battery-electric works fine. No need to waste agricultural land growing biofuel.
Even better: plug-in electric construction equipment.
@@ttopero With the notable exception of biogas (because it captures methane and burns it off as the less potent carbon dioxide), biofuels are terrible greenwashing solutions. In Sweden we're basically burning our forests (and even importing from other countries despite our very large logging industry) and patting ourselves on the back for how "green" we are. The Co2 released from biofuels is just as potent as the Co2 released from fossil fuels. Yes, it comes from a shorter term source so it can be rebound in a matter of about a hundred years as opposed to millions of years with fossil fuels, but we don't have those hundred years to play with, we're running out of time, and in the meantime it means even more Co2 in the atmosphere.
@@sIXXIsDesigns The thing with hydrogen fuel cells, as I'm sure you know, is that electrolysis, which is the only environmentally friendly way of making hydrogen, and the grid-to-wheel efficiency is something like 30%. It should be noted that fuel cells also require rare earth metals such as platinum to produce, while new battery chemistries are moving away from the rare earth metals to things like sodium batteries.
As someone living in Oslo I would say the really noticeable difference is in the reduction of noise pollution.
Even in the suburbs the noise of a summer weekend used to be the noise of lawn mowers, now it is a lot more quieter that almost everyone has electric autonomous mowers.
Thanks for chiming in! It's surprising how even in areas people think of as noisy, almost all the noise is from gasoline engines of some kind.
Side note: autonomous electric mowers? How are we just hearing about this now?
@@freethink This has been around for years, for about as long as autonomous vacuum cleaners. But really we should stop mowing the lawns, it's terrible for the environment regardless of whether it's done with electric or fossil lawn mowers.
@@freethink We have had one since 2015.
@@dijikstra8 amen!!
asphalt skiing -- sport of the future
Meh. try rollerblading on ice
Apparently they go off road, too: czcams.com/video/vOUYzNvjZjk/video.html
This is a very common sight in Norway. It's for people who love cross country skiing and want to keep practicing their sport even when there is no snow to ski on.
Did this in the 80s in Manitoba. The lack of mountains made X-country skiing popular so these were good for those few months we have without snow.
My high school cross country coach invented these, so it's pretty cool to see them across the world.
01:45 - Dude... 😳 you did not have to go so hard with the effects so early in the video, but I absolutely love that you did. I applaud you.
02:31 - DUDE... 🤣 STOP IMPRESSING ME!!!
@Claudiu Stian lol we won't make promises we can't keep 😉
Ikr ! The clean roll up with the shine reflection on the road and the unexpected door kinda opening for that man 🤯🤯
I have a hybrid. Love it. Some of the things not mentioned about EVs is that 99% of the time I charge at home. No more waiting in line at gas stations. I rarely drive to a gas station except on long trips. My gas bill is no longer $250/month. Technology is just going to get better. Look how long it took to get the automobile to where it is now.
Toolong
Currently, electricity prices are low to encourage people to take up EVs. When enough number of people go electric, the price of electricity will match that of gas. And regarding the future of cars, we are all going to be driving golf cars with computer screens attached to them.
Yeah, this world is FUKD
@@alileevili totally dont agree with the notion that electricity prices will inevitably match gas prices in the future. The price of electricity and gas is influenced by numerous complex factors, including supply and demand dynamics, energy source availability, geopolitical developments, and technological advancements. While lowering electricity prices may encourage EV adoption, it is not a guarantee that these prices will eventually align with gas prices. Additionally, predicting that all cars will become simplistic "golf cars with computer screens attached to them" oversimplifies the diverse and evolving nature of the automotive industry. The future of transportation is likely to encompass a wide range of vehicle types, sizes, and features to meet various needs and preferences. Achieving a sustainable future requires a multifaceted approach that incorporates renewable energy, energy efficiency, urban planning, and a careful balance of transportation options.
@@alileevil Why in the world do you think that electricity will match gas? We use electricity for more things than gas currently and it is a fraction of the cost. It will always be this way its basically physics. It is just a more efficient process for what you are doing. The only reason we have gas cars at all is because batteries technology was piss poor. That is no longer the case as battery technology has vastly improved thus far and all of this because we have made significant progress in the creation of robust alternative energy sources and the efficiency of scale.
Freethink: Next time you want to count, just count any numberplates that start with E (EL/EV... etc). All types of vehicles that are electric, bus, motorcycles and cars, have numberplates that starts with E 👍🏻
BTW, we've already swapped out all the city buses (red ones) to electric ones earlier this year 💪
Thanks for the tip! And that's awesome to hear!
So much quieter, I was super surprised by the construction equipment being so quiet
I didn't know Oslo was a separate planet.
Understand that even if all of Europe disappeared tomorrow, that would be only 9% of the world's emissions. All this e-spending at the expense of people makes no sense.
The editing of this video is so cool tho! Great Content, with cool Animations and sound effects. Sweet!
Thanks so much, glad you liked it!
I love how you did the interactive text within the video. That was awesome.
In California where I live, the prevalence of electric cars is quite comparable, but that's where the similarities end. The absence of early investments in clean energy solutions from both public and private sectors has created a stark contrast in our public transit and infrastructure. What truly astounds me is the capability of construction vehicles to plug directly into a DC power supply. This type of infrastructure, however, has yet to see significant investment in my area. The electric charging infrastructure for consumer transport has been predominantly established by just one private company. Despite corporations spending exorbitant amounts to alter consumer preferences, the infrastructure necessary for a sustainable future, as indicated here, relies on more than just our daily commutes.
We are always a bit more chaotic in the U.S., but it's not all bad news. For example, last year on April 30, 2022 California for the first time ran on 100% clean energy with solar making up the largest slice. Electricity generation and transmission is massive infrastructure and we are already making incredible progress towards a cleaner more robust energy grid.
It's shameful that some cities in CA are still allowing purchases of FF buses, etc. for years into the future. So many ignorant people in charge of companies. I do see more EVs each week, but it's changing way too slowly for me as my breathing suffers every time I have to go out into the toxic air (and the EPA is not even measuring most of the toxins).
I wish we had a law banning idling of trucks in parking lots.
“Clean energy” doesn’t exist. Just as EVs are not saving the planet. And Planet is not in any kind of climate crisis.
Bruh, Larry David driving his Prius in a 20 million people metropolis can't compare to Mrs Svenson driving her electric car to work (between her 2 year maternal leaves). I know you made it clear in your post that the two are ridiculosly uncomparable...but at the same time I can feel the LA smugness through your post. And hey, I'm not judging, if I lived n the cultural centre of the western world, I would most definetly feel some type of way. I live in Amsterdam (an imigrant, or as they say when your skin is of an European shade: an expat haha and I fee some type of way, make sure to mention it to everyone back home in southern europe...we're all hypocrites and I've lived through enough dramas to pretend I'm better than anyone else, I especially grew in the last few years a disdain for smug euro urbanites that think they're somewhat better than americans. I went on a big a$$ tangent now, but my point is you can't compare or try to implement these northern euro policies easily in America
I thought it was funny that the guy was amazed he was in the countryside 10 minutes outside the city. That's the entire world when you don't suburbanize and sprawl cities out. You have the city and quickly you have the countryside. It's closer and makes a tons more sense. Even Latin America is this way...
01:58 Fact check - Norway has the most electric vehicles per capita, not overall (for example China has 23x more)
Norway doesn't have massive dumping sites those EVs have been all thrown into, though. Unlike China that just built them for the stats, they're actually using them.
China has 200x more people, so it's not surprising. The number of EVs in China I found is 14.1 million.
If Norway would have that many, people would have in average 3 cars, which wouldn't be good
@@Vaeldarg source?
@@micah6635 "The China Show" here on youtube involves 2 hosts who have spent over a decade in China, had even worked on the propaganda side until they became disillusioned. LOT of stuff going on in China/on their walled-off internet, that if investors all fully understood would make them run as fast as they can away from China's economy.
@@PeterAuto1 that's why they said "per capita"
Here for the video, amazed with the effect titles 1:45 😅, subscribed!!!!
Love your videos. As a Philadelphian who loves this city I appreciate your videos a lot, those about philadelphia AND those about other cities. Thank you for promoting public transportation.
philly love
The added bonus on the bus is you might run into a random person you click with
First video and definitely subscribing! Entertaining and informative, thanks for the awesome quality content!
Your editing is 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I loved that part that was like "We dig all our oil with clean wind power
If it doesn't come from there, it'll come from somewhere else. This way the money can be used to 'fuel' their transition.
I think the ferry charging for the Fanø Færge in Esbjerg, Denmark also is very smart, it made to line up with the cables when it docks so it can just attach the charger directly without having to drag cables around.
I didn't know Oslo was a separate planet.
Understand that even if all of Europe disappeared tomorrow, that would be only 9% of the world's emissions. All this e-spending at the expense of people makes no sense.
First time watching your video, I'm impressed, you got a new subscriber 🎉
Thank you for nice infotmation from Norway Liked Norway !💚
If anyone is wondering, around 96% of Norway's energy production is hydroelectric.
Really interesting video, and I appreciate how honest it was about everything. Giving praise where praise is due, while not sugarcoating safety concerns, practical problems, or the fact that all the funding for the infrastructure is from selling oil to be used for emissions.
While all this probably technically results in a net increase in emissions(because everything is funded by oil, and electric adds a middleman that reduces efficiency), it's good to have someone doing wide-scale testing like this to help solve a lot of the engineering and supply chain problems that come with trying to be 100% emission free.
Hopefully we can see more progression in reducing emissions through more increased production of clean energy throughout the world(instead of just burning coal to power electric cars lol), and then this technology and processes could become more widespread and impactful.
Super slick... love the motion graphics
Thank you very much. It was very inspiring !
This is the future I want.
What’s utterly bizarre is the wealth Norway has derived from oil (and continues to do so). Kudos to the Norwegian government for setting an extraordinary example, but the big picture is a bit weird.
Petroleum industry will still exist and thrive in materials, chemicals, fertilizers and such.
It will just experience a fall in demand for one of its largest markets - fuels.
Going through and adjustment like any other industry, needs to redefine itself with the new market realities.
Norwegian petroleum companies will become leaders in the new market working with their government to redefine their role in global supply/demand. Continuing to produce the best of the beneficial petroleum products while adjusting to the loss of their most environmentally damaging product.
At least in one country the petroleum industry may be acting with sustainability, logic and social responsibility. Just got to get the rest of the world on board.
Damn!, crazy editing stuff!!
Loved your presentation, said many things including your passion for greener industry. Wish you all the success in the world. Passion and determination is a formula for success.
0:40 This is common for people who ski to keep up their skill when there's no snow. We have them in Sweden as well.
I love this new series!
Glad to hear! We actually did some episodes around the topic a few years ago and are bringing it back with a new format 🙂. czcams.com/video/pUbHGI-kHsU/video.html
Informative, truthful, fun, fun video. Thanks! (Did I say it was fun?)
Great report
electrification is important, but a huge part of the success of cities like Oslow is the huge push towards bicycles and public transit as the go-to transport for commuters and citizens to minimise car useage
road maintenance is reduced because bikes weigh less, bringing down the materials needed to keep road surfaces maintained and reducing emissions through that
Oh wow never thought about that
How do they move goods over there? Building materials, stuff for the market, etc.
@@jinxtacy commercial vehicles can be given exceptions ofc, but a lot of lighter goods can be moved by cargo ebikes
@@lord_scrubington Thanks for the sharing. Really cool society.
@@jinxtacy They are all taxed 60% of their Income. They dont have Money to Buy any Materials and Market Goods. Haha. Its the Truth.
This is a fantastic video. I'm saving this for later to show friends. I've not been impressed with the channel for a while, but you were saving for something big. I look forward to more like this. Great format, great editing, loved the realness of taking opportunities in the moment like the truck dumping aggregate. It felt very real and grounded, but had a focus and narrative and surprised me with lots of new information.
"fantastic video"??? You mean the whopping lie he told at 2:00 "Norway has the most electric vehicles of any country in the world", was "fantastic"?
Thanks very much, TCS, and appreciate the feedback. I think we have a lot more you will like coming and it's always nice seeing you around.
@@earlysda'Largest per capita'. You Happy?
@@earlysda He must have meant percentage-wise.
One of the best videos Freethink has made
Thanks so much!
9:15 If the sign on the car starts with an E that means it's electric
Thank you for your effort in putting these videos together! Neighborhood Electric Vehicles (NEVs) is a betting way to describe the small vehicles that are similar in scale to what’s used on the golf course. The words we use to describe things are as important as the things themselves when trying to shift people’s perceptions & behaviors. Please consider this in your speech patterns. It doesn’t mean being PC, but it does mean being conscientious about communicating effectively.
I second this!
Whats PC
So I'm very left wing, cyclist, environmentalist, pro-trans, states my pronouns, LGBT-ally, done drag, anti-racism, pro immigration, vaccinated, pay my taxes and so should corporations kinda guy... but when you asked me to watch how I refer to vehicles... Ah, Jeez, Dude... that's just... I think I need to eat steak tartar and fire a gun just to... cleanse myself.... have you no shame!
@@georgesears2916 Nope! This has a bigger scale impact on society than the individual efforts, not that they don’t have an important impact to the person you’re addressing. Keep up the great work but don’t limit yourself either-that’s what the opposition wants. Don’t consider it a job, just who you are becoming-a thoughtful, considerate & engaged person who doesn’t want to short change our efforts.
@@miguelsalas4852 it’s not about being PC, however you define it. It’s about how we think, behave & create the environment we want to live & hopefully thrive in. Your words convey your values & your values convey how you expend your wealth & resources. What do your values & behaviors say you desire to live in?
for the section where you counted electric cars, an easy way to tell in norway is to look at the license plate. if it starts with an "E" it's electric.
Great to see this wonderful video - the real difference can come to earth only when big countries do such things...but there things are not moving much...
my mind is completely blown ... im going to Oslo to check this out
Simply incredible and inspiring!
Not that much
Good luck if you think you'll ever see this happen in such an organized, efficient way in the US!
well US is more bigger, diverse and denser than Norway. Why would you think that it would be possible in US in an organized way.
@@ractmobecause the US is controlled by a self-serving, childish, bought government that has politicians' pockets priorities above those of the country & its citizens.
Lol the crew looks cozy in the backseat
Subscribed 🎉
For the record, the quality of this production is extraordinary, While that is not the the main focus of the video, I couldn't help but notice it. From the typography, to the fonts type, Lower Thirds, angles, colours, sound, so perfect.
Thanks a lot for the background work into this video.
I hope my production can meet such quality someday.
All that "quality" perhaps was to cover the fact that he was telling falsehoods, and many people fell for them.
@@earlysda such as ?
@@kaantax8666 kaantax, I'm not watching the video again to find all the mistakes, but there are many.
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This was in the news just yesterday:
"Sweden just dealt a severe blow to the globalist climate agenda by scrapping its green energy targets. In a statement announcing the new policy in the Swedish Parliament, Finance Minister Elisabeth Svantesson warned that the Scandinavian nation needs “a stable energy system.”
Svantesson said wind and solar power are too “unstable” to meet the nation’s energy requirements. Instead, she said, the Swedish government is shifting back to nuclear power and has scrapped its goal of a “100 percent renewable energy” supply to meet the nation’s energy requirement, as reported by Slay."
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So nice to see common sense prevail in Sweden! Also nice to see Sweden allow things that Muslims don't like. Freedom, not tyranny in having only one central power source that can easily be turned against you, is what we want.
@@kaantax8666 right!? People like @earlysda love to call others liars without offering any evidence.
Could you imagine living in a city with good public transit including micro mobility with all sorts of vehicles shares including micro EVs for shipping, that aren't price gouging you and are respected by it's citizens? My American brain literally can't fathom it.
I am so jealous of the narrator of this video : I am big believer in electric mobility and would love to have the opportunity to go in Oslo and test all electric transportation as he did ;)…
Nice video.
I like how this video shows just how easy it is if your government actually tries!
Or when you don't have a bunch of conservatives throwing temper tantrums every 2 seconds
@@grimaffiliations3671 that's the real thing right there. they really are like children. hateful bigoted little children.
or if it is loaded in cash
@grimaffiliations3671 You are woefully naive. Not a temper tantrum, just an observation. I'm curious, though. If all of the lithium, and the accompanying issues with collecting it, all took place in Norway, do you think they'd still do it? That also raises the question of the pile of cash raised from petroleum sales being used for this. The hypocrisy is delicious. Go ahead and have your tantrum now.
Tries....... Govt pays for all this n pumps money for subsidies
phenomenal report! I did not know that this was going on in Oslo - and the naysayers claim this just can't be done. This MUST become the model for all cities, even in other oil producing countries - like the US!
Do you know how materials specifically cobalt and lithium are mined to make your electric vehicle's? For rich first world countries, do some research before claiming these things are great.
@@MintyJazz3and you know that to make gas cars they need to use lead acid batteries that are 100 times more toxic and polluting?
@@willy4170 lead acid batteries that are basically infinitely recycable? you realize how large the automotive battery recycling industry is in the usa? heck every traditional car battery you see was probably in another car before
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1:55 the moment I saw that animation I hit the bell
In Toronto, Canada, we have a ferry which takes a 7-minute round trip.. it runs on diesel power. 😅
Electric is perfect for this kind of vehicle and electric power train is way simpler and better than ICE.
Well done Oslo.
The Paxster reminds me a lot of the Arcimoto FUV here in the USA!
The little Pakster vehicles look very versatile and useful.
For the net amount of barrels and coal exported, the Carbon Border Tax should have a fair inclusion of special Tax for net Oil Export to level out the playing field. Going completely electric and then charging developing nations with Carbon Border tax is literally a case of financial bullying and peer pressure. This kind of a situation will always limit the emission reduction and general development of developing nations as the natiions now have to allot more resources to cut emissions which would normally be put into infrastructure development. I understand the video was to set an example and spread awareness but this is a truth that cannot be mentioned in the video but needs to put in front by someone.
Amazing what can happen when your society actually tries to solve problems
those charging times are mind blowing. seriously, it makes no sense how low they are. it's incredibly efficient on top of that. i believe that there are many cities in developed countries that could adopt these practices at scale. it's a no brainer
Electric tram, wow, what a concept :D I know its not a point but I found that really funny :D
"What if there is a power outage?"
... This is Europe... we barely ever have power outages.
Right? I have not ever had one since childhood in the early 90s.
What energy source is being used to produce the grid electricity?
Mainly Hydroelectricity (as explained in the video at 16:08).
that effect at 1:45 was so smooth
have you guys ever considering using nebula as well?
it would be great to have you guys there along side the other educational connect i watch :)
8:22 “Norwegians are horrible drivers”, where?! At least in Oslo, they are the most well-behaved drivers I’ve come across.
One of the countries with the highest traffic safety in the world, I was irritated with that comment. Not just Oslo, but the rest of the country has generally good drivers, superior to almost all countries.
one of the biggest things that people overlook about electric is how much quitter it is.
To be fair, normal passenger cars like Camry, Civic are pretty quiet. It's those asshole drivers who mod the exhaust system.
I live in Shenzhen and there are a lot of BYD pure electric heavy dump trucks that are still super loud and annoying.
@@leanliferA video with sound would be of use. I wonder whether it's tire noise, or a low design quality of moving parts, or just the noise of dropping dirt in, etc.? But good to know.
Why do you think everyone else thinks quiet cars are a benefit?
I want my car to rev.
seems like your life is miserable@@leanlifer
Cool! 3:52 min. I use the same Shoulder pillow. 😄
Wow....this is what needs to be followed all over!!!
biggest problem for electrified anything is the battery, how they mine the raw materials? how they produce it? and how they gonna ricycle it?
Batteries will be recycled, unlike stuff that is burned. It only has to be mined once, because it is not being burned and thrown into the air. As more mining equipment goes electric, etc. it just improves, unlike the old ways.
@@brians7094 sure, because you're the one who is in control over it, and make sure everyone involved do their part
lol good luck with that
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All of the trams I know are electric. In my mind it's almost by definition. Any counter example of non electric trams (light trains)?
There were steam trams that burned diesel or coal. And there are still diesel trams
@@olamilekanakala7542 where can we find them?
As much as i enjoyed the video i laughed at the "electrifying everything.... trams" as if they were ever combustion :))
I love it 😢I need to work with the best team in order to get it done ❤
I swear Norway goes 10 years ahead of whole world
No its not going. Netherland is
@@mospher9253 I mean they can both go I guess.Are we gonna argue about a subjective opinion of which one of the two countries being ahead of their time?
@@exosproudmamabear558 i just give you my anwser i dont ask for debat but if you want lets go ahead
Like abusing other 3rd world countries by depending on child labor to mine the lithium for the batteries? Makes perfect LOGICAL sense to use the weak under developed countries for slaves. Got it. FLASHING LIGHTS and fast moving video scenes blind you into thinking ITS ALL RAINBOWS AND UTOPIA?
drilling oil and selling to other countries, then turning around and acting like "oh we are green, look ev" is like selling cocaine to people and then building a drug rehabilitation centre with that profit.
Welcome to neoliberalism 😂
I still appreciate their efforts & achievements. countries can have money but not / can't do what they do.
Look at what the UK did with their share of the exact same oil wealth - just handed it all to rich people as tax breaks. No sovereign wealth fund for a rainy day, no investment in the fabric of the country, just a crazy period of fire selling public assets (Railways, Telecom, Gas, Electricity) and a boom and bust property cycle.
@@breadnewbie6326 They export roughly 2 million barrels of crude oil every single day...their entire population is just 5 million.
How is this doing good for the environment, this is just green washing.
The US sells a lot more oil than Norway and spends a lot less of the money earned from it on Green tech. Once we are fully green we can cut back on oil. Another thing is, our oil and gas is actually greener overall due to electrification, its not like the demand will go down if we stop, it will just give opec more power and prices will rise.
It's really great to see every aspect of Machinery going Electric. But I have few queries
1. How are they managing the Electricity production
2. What are the support schemes or policies setup by the govt there
3. How are they managing the E-Waste and other waste streams too
4. Do the companies producing all the Electric Machines import any materials or other parts from other countries.
1. The same as before, just scaled up a bit. Mix of fuels and green generation solutions.
2. Reduce incentives for fuels based solutions, move the money over to green solutions.
3. Not relevant yet as this is new so most green solutions are still in active service. But once green solutions get old enough to hit disposal in volume it will be treated the same as fuel based solutions. Funnel old items into a reuse and recycling supply chain.
4. Yes of course the exact same as fuel based solutions. Though the new generation solutions present an opportunity to improve supply chains, as long as citizens and consumers keep the pressure up to continue improvements in environmental stewardship and social responsibility.
Well children go in deep mine shafts to mine cobalt which is found in lots of electronic vehicle's. And mining lithium will deplete and exploit the earth's resources even further. Whenever there's a mass scale solution there's always a problem.
@@5353Jumper 3) Try repair first
This amazing!
its more sustainable to run a vehicle to the ground than replacing a perfectly fine vehicle with an EV. Also making all those batteries produce tons of CO2 and raise ethical concerns (slave cobalt mining ex.) What will they do with all those batteries once theyve run their course?
Your anti battery disinformation is like 5 years old now - all debunked - all of it - batteries last a long time and are recyclable, new chemistry's don't use cobalt, cobalt is used in gasoline refining too, primary cobalt mining (at scale - which EV's need) does not use hand labour - you are probably thinking of Tantalum mining for mobile phones - most of the anti EV meme's use pictures of Tantalum mining, not cobalt from primary copper mine tailings, CO2 emissions for batteries depend on where the battery is made, and when, Mr. Bean's article was using old data, and so on and so forth. Google this stuff. Look for "EV myths debunked" and read up, your head is full of disinformation from a desperate industry tying to avoid stranding their trillion dollar emission assets.
I agree, I knew of such conditions specifically in the "democratic" Republic of the Congo.
@@brushlessmotoring What about lithium mining, also you shouldn't squash others for thinking critically of e-vehicle's because deep mining will deplete earth's limited resources even more. I'm sure it won't effect you- of course.
@@MintyJazz3 we have to be honest about the impacts of keeping going with gasoline / petrol, the original comment said "its more sustainable to run a (gasoline) vehicle to the ground" - this statement is false, and they then justified that with a bunch more anti EV misinformation that is also not true.
Mining of anything can be a problem, and that includes Oil, fracking for Gas, Lithium for personal electronics, Cobalt for gasoline and batteries in all devices, not just cars, platinum for hydrogen fuel cells, copper for just about everything, Tantalum and a collection of other minerals for mobile phones and so on and so forth.
I don't disagree with any of that, but we need to frame ALL products in context. The big issue with only focusing on EV batteries (ignoring cellphones, laptops, power tools etc,. etc, etc.) is it implies the status quo of extracting, refining and burning gasoline is A-OK. And that is not true. Not even slightly.
Yes, making an EV has an impact, but no, it is not worse than continuing to run a gasoline car into the ground for another decade, and the impacts of EV manufacturing are being taking seriously, and made better every year.
Lithium Iron Phosphate (LFP) is a cobalt free battery chemistry in use in some EVs already, Sodium Ion (salt) is a contender to replace Lithium, which is actually abundant, and mined in western countries like Australia - hopefully without exploitation.
I hope you hold Oil and Gas to the same high standards that all propulsion methods should be measured against, and when you do that critically, with data, EVs come out ahead, even with the worst combinations of sourcing, and come out very far ahead with green manufacturing of the battery, and cobalt free chemistry's.
Supply chain abuses are not okay, but sadly they are not specific to EVs - the scale of EVs actually creates more funding to fix these problems, namely switching cobalt away from tailings of copper mining, which is where these abuses tend to happen more, as it's outside commercial (machinery) scale mining. (euphemistically called 'artisinal' mining - rather than the more accurate 'exploitative')
@@MintyJazz3 what about palladium in the catalyser inside the gas car, sodium battery exist and lithium is using less water and pollution to be extract, and their is lithium every where
Americans always think that there must be a lof of power outages (maybe from own experiences?). My guess is, that on avereage it does not even happen once a year.
More comments: Should we call a place with electric chargers "gas stations" still? You are correct when you say that extinguishing a battery fire is hard, but it sounded like only electric boats could catch fire, which is defnetly false. For cars I know, that the probability of a fire is twenty times higher on fossil fuel cars compared to evs.
I have not experienced a power outage in my life for the past 28 years...
Oslo isnt a Global City
16:00 You accidentally went basically to the exact place depicted in the famous painting "The Scream" by Edvard Munch
What a busy intersection, with few cars😅
Another city most wouldn't think is going electric is Delhi, recently decided that they would stop procuring CNG Buses (which is already cleaner then diesel ones) and will only buy electric buses, Metro and Railways is already 100% electric, Taxi's (which again was mostly CNG as sale of diesel taxis has already been banned a long ago) city wouldn't issue permits to new one's that are not electric, we also have something similar to paxter called e-rickshaws that is being used for last mile connectivity and for transporting goods, there's already plan to ban diesel cars by 2027 in whole country, two wheelers are already getting rolled out as electric each and every day but we do lack in electric construction vehicles.
Going to be Huge Failure . When Delhi wont be able to produce Electricity
Electricity is everywhere to be harvested. And I mean everywhere. Even our body has an electrical system, works chemically. Pottasium and salt as in a sports drink. @@SamRichardson1990
I've read through about the first 50 comments to confirm what I suspected. Most of the people commenting here are utterly clueless about the foundation of Oslo's electrification. People here are saying, "See? Why can't the US do this?" and stuff like that. Well, if the rest of the world ever does completely electrify, it won't be the way the Norwegians did. At only one point of the video, in a throwaway sentence, was it mentioned that Norway gets its electricity (99.9% of it) from *hydropower* . Norway not only has the second longest coastline in the world, the vast majority of that coastline is home to the world's longest and deepest fjords, which makes the production of hydroelectricity possible. *Literally no other country in the world has the geography to do what Norway has done* , and this one omission from an otherwise quaint video makes it inexcusably deceptive. Shame on you.
Yet mass wind and solar are the cheapest sources of energy in human history.
@@brians7094 Cheapness is not the only factor in supplying a power grid, however. If Solar energy was 100% free (which it *will* be at some point in the future), it still could not meet all our needs. Hydroelectricity is a far better source (if you're not a salmon).
@@BS-vx8dgThere are papers which say solar can meet all of our needs. Either way, I won't debate that, as long as we stop poisoning the air.
Thanks!
And thanks again :)
3 years ago the Quebec government bought a used fully electric ferry from Italy, but I guess this doesn't count for this FREETHINK video man. It had been in service a number of years.Proper research is a must to maintain credibility.
How do they intend to mitigate the risk associated with a grid failure?
How do they intend to mitigate the risk associated with Russia trying to use hydrocarbons to blackmail Europe?
By not connecting an entire city to one hydrodamn?
Also battery farms exist as well in the case of a failure which is really really rare in Norway.
Redundancy. There are multiple electric lines going into Oslo, and the grid has redundancy meaning that a single failure is not bringing down a large section of the grid.
Electric vehicules are individualistic technologies.
It's still impossible to make the tires, the roads, the mining, the processing, and everything that created these individual vehicules without a lot of oil and emissions.
When we recognize this, and look at different technologies to do the same thing (transport), we see that public solutions have the lowest emission per capita. Like trains, trams, metros, etc.
The reason it matters is because we DON'T have enough cobalt, lithium, copper, and many more minerals needed to apply this electrification model everywhere. Not even close.
So, if we can't do it everywhere, if our natural ecosystems are already destroyed by all this industrial activity, and we have to reduce that (not just emissions of CO2), then we need to look at options that use LESS materials, energy and resources. And that means public transport, along with walking, biking, and other options that do not need a global supply chain to put create.
“But do you really…”😂
That is smart use of oil profits, specially when they are even electrifying the process of extraction / production.
Other countries are going to use oil for certain time irrespective of who produces it. No one can force other country to switch immediately.
Why let someone else take profits when you can use them better yourself and control the method of production making it clean and safe.
I spoke of this to someone here in America, about an all electronic future, and it's crazy because they couldn't even begin to imagine. I told them about the uber bikes and uber scooters (and their tesla deal for a traditional Über) and they were stunned ay how much w3 ALREADY have (and don't have)
This makes sense in Norway, where all electricity comes from hydroelectric plants. It doesn't make sense in America, where all the extra electricity for all these new electrical appliances would only come from burning coal.
@@mareksykora779 That's not at all true. Coal power as a percentage of the energy mix has been declining for years now. All new capacity either primarily comes from wind, solar, or natural gas.
@@olamilekanakala7542 No. We want to stop coal power plants, but we can't because we have high electricity consumption. If we replace Teslas with gasoline cars, then all the electricity saved will mean a reduction in production in precisely those unwanted coal-fired power plants. So the real effect of driving a Tesla is 100 percent in burnt coal. And it wouldn't burn if we put the Tesla in a junkyard.
@@mareksykora779 we don’t want to. We are. It is uneconomical to build new coal in the US. The last significant plant built was in 2013. And we’ve shut down several this past decade, with another 33 or so slated for decommission by 2030. Coal is simply circling the drain. If anyone wants to build new fossil fuels it’s going to be gas. And regardless, it’s still better for the environment to drive an electric car with fossil fueled electricity than it is to drive an ICE vehicle.
@@olamilekanakala7542 You'd be shutting down coal plants much faster if you were ditching Teslas. Teslas keep them going. And so it will be in the next fifteen years. Therefore, the real effect of driving a Tesla in the US is in burnt coal.
EPIC!! makes me wanna move to OSLO so bad 😭
1967 I saw electric buses in downtown Chicago. I now learned why they all disappeared. Standard Oil bought them out.
Many leaders need to see this ecosystem, to get motivate and lead their communities.
Yes the lady at 7:14 is right. I think that Oxygen needs to be thought of as a commodity. A commodity in that there are finite amounts of it produced every year. This is a great video, thank you for posting.
For those who live with the condition bought about by the burning of fossil fuel through asthma, Oxygen is already a commodity! I take a Inhaler and its manufactured by the same companies who make oil base products, and once used, the Inhaler is recycled as an energy source, in other words burn at an Incinerator! and so the cycle continues as more and more people join the asthma community and learn of this fact.
The issue is not oxygen, sure, producing more can be somewhat beneficial; it will take many centuries to even noticeably decrease the oxygen in the atmosphere. The issue is carbon dioxide, air pollutants and other things which have an uncomparable huge impact compared to the almost negligible impact of percentage-wise tiny reduction in oxygen each year. Oxygen is mostly a concern in the distant future, if it even comes to that, considering how we are starting to apply solutions to combat global warming, etcetera.
That Paxter is really good. I think Oslo wants to copy Shenzhen where everything is electric.
Thank you
Tank you for showing the World the way!
I think a mix of electric, oil, hydrogen and other methods should power the future. When we centralize any industry it will lead to imbalanced systems powering greedy massive corporations. Diversifying is the key to our future.
I have to disagree, oil should be spent only on chemistry industry
Also hydrogen is power storage, not power source
Oil should be eradicated due to it harmful greenhouse gases emission. You can easily divide the energy sector into multiple branch to avoid imbalance power. All can be done without involving carbon emissions in the process
joe, you speak common sense, which triggers Climate Alarm religionists.
@@zulhilmi5787 then when we switch to something else another problem will form
need to visit Shenzhen ;-)
Copenhagen has using Ferries busses in the harbour for a decade now. :P