Former ANC President Thabo Mbeki continues to engage party members in the Free State

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  • Former ANC President Thabo Mbeki has continued to engage party members in the Free State in an effort to forge unity and renew the ANC ahead of its provincial elective conference scheduled to take place this year.
    The party has experienced huge divisions in the province since 2012. Let us take you there live now
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Komentáře • 163

  • @lungamasuku6872
    @lungamasuku6872 Před 2 lety +46

    When President Mbeki Speaks, you are reminded that once!,a long time ago!,long,long ago the ANC use to be a respectable political Party!

    • @jonye7511
      @jonye7511 Před 2 lety +3

      And you know what is sad about that? They couldn't recognize that and now when the country is falling apart, they only see that.

    • @terrencempengesi4200
      @terrencempengesi4200 Před 2 lety +4

      That was before ppl found out what it represented, now we all know that ,it 8s the party that was chosen by those hiding in shadows as the shadow government of the world to carry their agenda of dragging this country to the ground and they get reach in return, they were given Metropolitan shares and in return they were not to touch the land,its happening right in front of us,don't u ppl wonder how these guyz got rich ,remember when they arrived from exile?,They had nothing, they had to sell the country to the highest bidder for riches,and u thought u gave them power,when they were already chosen by their bosses,ppl were dribbled and they still can't see the trick.

    • @matthewthomas3890
      @matthewthomas3890 Před 2 lety +1

      Yes indeed. Who would have said that ??

    • @lungisani8113
      @lungisani8113 Před 2 lety

      Respected by who?

    • @terrencempengesi4200
      @terrencempengesi4200 Před 2 lety

      By those who still vote for it,that's common sense,they are the ones who gave it 2/3 in 1994,aren't u aware of that?

  • @smakahlekhumalo2746
    @smakahlekhumalo2746 Před 2 lety +6

    Presidential material

  • @aloissbaleni1037
    @aloissbaleni1037 Před 2 lety +15

    But who is former President Mbeki talking to. Irrespective of him having had problems during his term of Office does not mean what he is saying is not sound. If anything President Mbeki is one of the best and sober leaders Africa as whole has ever produced in post independence, I don't see much difference in his faculties from those of the likes of Nkrumah, Machel and others. If we listen to Mbeki and his insights with people at heart not this partisan approach to everything this country can become a model African state.

  • @khayalethujimlongo4429
    @khayalethujimlongo4429 Před 2 lety +8

    Mr. President is ever on point. I so wish that ANC reelects you to become the ANC's president and Netshitenzhe our state president.

  • @mpumelelonontsimi3581
    @mpumelelonontsimi3581 Před 2 lety +16

    Leadership right here.

  • @tiyiselaMpuzana
    @tiyiselaMpuzana Před 2 lety +15

    A tried and tested Cadre of the movement. A leader par excellence. TM is incomparably superior.

    • @jonye7511
      @jonye7511 Před 2 lety +2

      Thank his favoring of Zanupf for the Zimbabweans running into SA

  • @mohaubangani1778
    @mohaubangani1778 Před 2 lety +7

    The man who deserves an apology from the entire country.

  • @ayandasigxashe7198
    @ayandasigxashe7198 Před 2 lety +3

    Mr. MBEKI I hear you 1000%, I just wonder what faction of ANC is going to listen to your words of wisdom?

  • @nonkonjokamahlase3862
    @nonkonjokamahlase3862 Před 2 lety +10

    ANC has never been without SG,it is the first time in the history of ANC, this symbolise the falling of umbutho wabantu

  • @michaelngcobo7279
    @michaelngcobo7279 Před 2 lety +1

    President my president 🙏🏾 The President we need now😢

  • @simonsebopetsa2263
    @simonsebopetsa2263 Před 9 měsíci

    A very humble leader the liberation movement has ever produced, comrade T-Bose

  • @nganganhama4596
    @nganganhama4596 Před 2 lety +2

    The ANC wil not be able to self diagnose, it's time has passed... It's time to let go now, the young lions are rising, the true renewal is not that of the ANC but that of the Nation.

  • @lazoladipha9727
    @lazoladipha9727 Před 2 lety +4

    We were robbed when they recalled him. That was the downfall of our beloved country.

  • @hlawulanisibisi2634
    @hlawulanisibisi2634 Před 2 lety +28

    I have great respect for Mbeki. The downfall of ANC was Jacob Zuma

  • @hamzahakeem6168
    @hamzahakeem6168 Před 2 lety +5

    I think this is the leader Anc currently needs Thabo mbeki president for a 3rd term is not a bad idea

    • @jonye7511
      @jonye7511 Před 2 lety

      The same man whose "quiet diplomacy" killed Zimbabweans' chance of true democracy in 2008.

  • @joumaseworld
    @joumaseworld Před 2 lety +4

    His hand gestures when he speaks is exactly like that of Patrice Motsepe. The pace and pauses when they speak is so similar. U are who u hang around with? ...

  • @cyrilndaba6322
    @cyrilndaba6322 Před 2 lety +13

    This is what Mbeki is saying, read my lips..." You should not have chucked me out of Office in 2008...you should have allowed me to have a 3rd term and not favored Zuma in Polokwane...CR, I was done with you way back in 1993 for the DP position, why did you appoint Cele who undermined me in Durban when I was with the Indian PM".

  • @bootsandall3612
    @bootsandall3612 Před 2 lety +5

    Standing with wide open arms on the South African titanic.

  • @lonwabodanster839
    @lonwabodanster839 Před 2 lety +1

    Powerful interaction from Zizi this will build our organisation

  • @gsmbonane4742
    @gsmbonane4742 Před 2 lety +3

    Prof Lumumba once argued that one day when history is written and written properly (about this great leader) South Africans will regret/apologise ...

  • @abrammaretlwa4521
    @abrammaretlwa4521 Před 2 lety +1

    Someone who can talk about his country and not about his lost son.

  • @RoystonWyatt13
    @RoystonWyatt13 Před 2 lety +4

    I don't think the ANC should be in power after 2024, as they have shown their true colours a thousand times over!!!! But if they had to stay in power, this is the kind of ANC president that is needed! Everything went downhill, starting with the economy when JZ had Mbeki ousted out of the presidency! At least there is still one person of power left in the anc that has some integrity left in him! Not many of them left in the anc.

  • @wezilentakazana9440
    @wezilentakazana9440 Před 2 lety +5

    Zuma and mbeki must go and mend what they started. Factionalism is now the language of the ANC. The tre soul is dead. Let these previous factions come together and save ANC

  • @aykay9328
    @aykay9328 Před 2 lety +4

    He reads without glasses wow

  • @zukozerakili8992
    @zukozerakili8992 Před 2 lety +4

    ANC is unable the correct itself, but we the citizens of South Africa can do that for them. Former president Thabo Mbeki and other senior leaders have been quiet for too long now. Gone are the days when leaders had to be removed when they are underperforming their duties including the president.

  • @ashwinmark1849
    @ashwinmark1849 Před 2 lety +1

    It is clear Mbeki is busy to rebuilt confidence amongst the people of the ANC and the rest of the non-ANC members

  • @nazahewu9829
    @nazahewu9829 Před rokem

    How did we let go of such a Calibre South Africa needs him

  • @southafricaismyhome814
    @southafricaismyhome814 Před 2 lety +6

    I feel sorry for Anc there new mind set in Southafrica yes Anc is in trouble 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂

  • @brucethackwell6686
    @brucethackwell6686 Před 2 lety +9

    Look at the state of the police force, the..the list is long and the ANC cant do it.

  • @philipbanda6637
    @philipbanda6637 Před 2 lety +8

    It looks like he is not in support of the second term . Please remember u also bid for a third term Mr Mbeki you and yo tribe mate Nelson failed to correct the apartheid Land and economic set up .

    • @jonye7511
      @jonye7511 Před 2 lety +1

      Go back to Malawi for your own land. Zimbabweans are here in their millions because of him.

  • @brucethackwell6686
    @brucethackwell6686 Před 2 lety +10

    Doing his best but the ANC is far too far gone to ever return. That's the truth there is just no capacity. Step down NOW

    • @ovaman3519
      @ovaman3519 Před 2 lety

      Wake Up PLEASE don't sleep on ANC

  • @nganganhama4596
    @nganganhama4596 Před 2 lety +4

    ANC suffers from old age disease.

  • @southafricaismyhome814
    @southafricaismyhome814 Před 2 lety +6

    Cant you not see.Anc is in big trouble by.Voters 😂😂😂🤣🤣😂😂😂

  • @daplis2000
    @daplis2000 Před 2 lety +3

    I forgive you!

  • @mabaso1755
    @mabaso1755 Před 2 lety +2

    Hayi Madoda we were led. ANC is too big to fail indeed.

  • @lungamasuku6872
    @lungamasuku6872 Před 2 lety +3

    I think if the ANC really want to work for South africans again, it must sit down with other black parties of south africa and find a way to work together othewise i really think the ANC will die!

  • @mandingan.9745
    @mandingan.9745 Před 2 lety +1

    Man! This is all sound consideration, I hope it goes somewhere...
    Pres TM, please, you cannot discuss presidential terms in this manner without touching on your 3rd term aspirations.

  • @siphesihlepercy3679
    @siphesihlepercy3679 Před 2 lety +2

    Zizi, I'll be glad if you can do this kakhul empuma koloni lecturing words ngoba bayitya bayosulele entloko besazi ukuthi iANC ayina opposition pha.

  • @susanswartz5747
    @susanswartz5747 Před 2 lety +2

    Ask JESUS to show us what we see in the miror

  • @philisiwedeyi377
    @philisiwedeyi377 Před 2 lety +1

    He left the country in a better state , now its worse

  • @ndubanesol111
    @ndubanesol111 Před 2 lety +7

    No you are misleading those clowns mvuyelwa, the people are interested as to who is the president of the republic not just as to who the councillors is. Only ethical top leadership including the president with vision can deliver to the people, the president has influence to the conduct of lower level leadership which if focused can lead to positive service delivery. He shouldn't come here n lie to the people of mzansi. South Africa dont need corrupt ANC. Action SA of ubaba Mashaba is more relevant than ever, Mashaba is able to direct south Africa to where the country wishes to go.

    • @ndlavini
      @ndlavini Před 2 lety

      You mean by voting with the same organisation he (Mashaba) left citing dissatisfaction with its vision ?… We are watching , the ANC should indeed fast track its renewal before some predators prey on vulnerable electorate .

    • @jonye7511
      @jonye7511 Před 2 lety +1

      @@ndlavini Too late the ones who trap our vote pay us R350 every month but don't create real jobs. 18 million are trapped by social grants. What other IMF money will they buy our votes with so they can live in luxury?

  • @BryKer1804
    @BryKer1804 Před 2 lety +1

    after listening to Mbeki speaking for 5 minutes i took a nap for 20 minutes woke up and continued listening and he still has not said anything meaningful.

  • @dineomakoe6075
    @dineomakoe6075 Před 2 lety +2

    Thank you so much Ntate, our government should stop talking and taking no action about gender based violence. I will help by suggesting that the death penalty should return. Enough talking. These criminals should lose their lives when they choose to rape, murder and beat women and Children.

  • @mosseskkrrngota1575
    @mosseskkrrngota1575 Před 2 lety +1

    Round off to 1000s

  • @brendamazibuko8456
    @brendamazibuko8456 Před 2 lety +3

    Time for talking is approaching its expiry we need action

  • @dimakatsontsalong7717
    @dimakatsontsalong7717 Před 2 lety +4

    Yes the ANC is too big to fail and it will not fail and it won't collapse

  • @Thegoldenratio79
    @Thegoldenratio79 Před 2 lety +7

    This guy and his sell out dinosaurs must go sleep… it’s too late, beyond them and their puppeteers

  • @brucethackwell6686
    @brucethackwell6686 Před 2 lety +2

    Is grand theft OK ? Is the constitution OK?

  • @lalina1304
    @lalina1304 Před 2 lety

    They see the country has lost confidence in them so the bring him to restore our faith.

  • @brucethackwell6686
    @brucethackwell6686 Před 2 lety +3

    Old school let's see what transpires.

  • @mzwakhemtimkulu5418
    @mzwakhemtimkulu5418 Před 2 lety +2

    Uyasidakelwa lo

  • @tirhanithewallflower7054
    @tirhanithewallflower7054 Před 2 lety +1

    in 2022 you're still discussing how you will create Jobs? you can't be serious. We want action not discussions about a manifesto that is repeated but not actioned.

  • @vikamjoka2142
    @vikamjoka2142 Před 2 lety +1

    So baffling seeing posts by the same people whom before and after Polokowane were singing from the "Mbeki must go hymn book" so surprising to see them now singing his praises? how jelly belly some people are, their saviour turned out to eat its own and tanked this economy. I actually see some in here who were the foot soldiers of the Zuma propaganda machine now singing praises to Mbeki....Bloody Hypocrites, rubber necks

  • @ndlavini
    @ndlavini Před 2 lety +7

    Why can’t we condemn murder as crime and call for true harshest sanction instead of making it a gender matter , if I heard correctly a round figure of 7000 murders is reported and 1000 of which is woman .Should we now be concerned with the 1000 women murdered vs 6000 men or should we be dealing with the crime of murder and other crimes ? … Legislature should look at strengthening our laws and sanctions instead of political campaigns in the National Assembly .

    • @jonye7511
      @jonye7511 Před 2 lety +4

      6000 men's lives matter. Time for the ANC to admit we are just a very violent country because they have failed to govern properly. GBV and other such campaigns are used to distract us from the real cause of our problems caused by their corruption.

    • @philipbanda6637
      @philipbanda6637 Před 2 lety +2

      @ Andile . This is the Best posting I have read in a very long while . Andile you have put it so very welĺ . This thing Of so called "GENDER Based Violence" is so irritating ; violence is violence and should be tackled as such, violence or murder .

  • @percymkhwebane6021
    @percymkhwebane6021 Před rokem

    I only see the anc concerned with service delivery... the issue of absolute inequality is never thoroughly discussed or plans instituted to change this less favourable position that people of colour find themselves in.

  • @nomngcefe1688
    @nomngcefe1688 Před 2 lety +1

    Already campaigning for Ramaphosa

  • @simethembenzimande4186
    @simethembenzimande4186 Před 2 lety +2

    I hate when the say ANC is to big to loose and if it loos South Africa will be ungavenable. The samething aparted Government said black people won't control SA well. ANC must move, we need new party to take control.

  • @ndubanesol111
    @ndubanesol111 Před 2 lety +3

    This whole mbeki thing is confusing now, where was he all this time Mr former president, its puzzling really bcs he run away nailed to confront zuma corrupt deeds when he was needed most. This one wants to take an advantage of Cyril passiveness n pidh for his candidates, kawume mvuyelwa your time came n went.you have failed us during zuma destruction. You better off as a political commentator.

    • @hlawulanisibisi2634
      @hlawulanisibisi2634 Před 2 lety +4

      He is no longer a president, he can't be a ring leader, he now steps in because he sees that his organization needs guidance. he doesn't have the power to decide what happens the best he can do is to advise. is not like he has been hiding. all along

    • @edwardhanyane
      @edwardhanyane Před 2 lety +1

      Zuma was the enabler and defender of the destruction of the ANC not Mbeki

  • @siphesihlepercy3679
    @siphesihlepercy3679 Před 2 lety +1

    Umhlaba sawulinda sawuncama kuwe no Zuma no cereal themba lethu ngok nali 🚩🚩🚩

  • @segaranpillay7154
    @segaranpillay7154 Před 2 lety

    Do not send your children to Soussix university.

  • @douglassmith8904
    @douglassmith8904 Před 2 lety +1

    EH.. EH... EH.. STOP FIGGETING.. 🤣

  • @gloriamasiza357
    @gloriamasiza357 Před 2 lety +3

    Iyahlekisa lento yoba xa inqanawe izika kulandwe iintonga ezisemgqubeni ngoba kaloku kunyembelekile

  • @thapphogg9168
    @thapphogg9168 Před 2 lety +1

    COPE President

  • @terrencempengesi4200
    @terrencempengesi4200 Před 2 lety +3

    Come on Tata,hamza uyohlala ngasesibayeni sakho,wise ppl will never listen to u ,the problem here is not the factions,u are part of it,u were there,u dd nothing,instead u became arrogant,I remember u pushing Mama Winnie in front of the crowds,the way u ignored her made me wonder how deep your intellect is,the whole Party including u is rotten to the core,the PAC leaders saw this coming, that's why they left.

  • @elizabethnadrau195
    @elizabethnadrau195 Před 2 lety

    people have to be careful of moving up and down like Gypsies.( One has got to know exactley where the way goes to.) Haha it is nice when we were young, but When we are getting old? Yhoo we are mixed -up .I did nt know that the life makes us again to act like kids when we are getting old.

  • @doubletrouble1241
    @doubletrouble1241 Před 2 lety +2

    The old ship is going down! It will never survive 2029

  • @lionelbartlett5388
    @lionelbartlett5388 Před 2 lety

    Wat praat jy jong.

  • @johnjacobs7693
    @johnjacobs7693 Před 2 lety

    i am baffled, does sabc belong to the anc, because i cannot understand why sabc allow so much expensive airtime to mr Mbeki with due respect the gentleman is not the president of SA is he perhaps more important than the current president. this is party politics if we talking about the dire situation in SA then i mean the mess has been created by the anc party driving from the back seat. when I listen to the gentleman it is all wishful thinking , something is seriously wrong

  • @tshepangrakalemakou7884

    Whether TM likes it or not ANC has collapsed...Society is leaderless cause of the problem is ANC in the hands of imperialism forces🤔😏

  • @ndunamgwenya4884
    @ndunamgwenya4884 Před 2 lety +3

    this guy is too attached to the ANC, and there's problems everytime he gets involved, we are here because of him

  • @thabangtladi8247
    @thabangtladi8247 Před 2 lety +1

    Mbeki is worried about the ANC and not concerned about the future of our children and country mxm.

  • @thabomashiloane4461
    @thabomashiloane4461 Před 2 lety +3

    What is cde Mbeki doing in the FS? Who invited him & in what capacity & for what reason? Then what? Who is he going to instruct to correct whatever findings he discovers & in what capacity will he be reporting?

    • @tlhologelomabitle629
      @tlhologelomabitle629 Před 2 lety +9

      Last time I checked he has every right.

    • @dimakatso9566
      @dimakatso9566 Před 2 lety +4

      You want Zuma?🤣🤣😅😅😅keep your ANC most of us are done.

    • @lebohangmokotjo1662
      @lebohangmokotjo1662 Před 2 lety +2

      Aikhona rona we are done ke ANC hleng bathong.. re utlwile!!

    • @thanduxolosiseko1980
      @thanduxolosiseko1980 Před 2 lety +2

      He will always be welcome to give his insights,if invited accept and participate in a process

    • @aykay9328
      @aykay9328 Před 2 lety +2

      He is the member of the anc,and can go and address whoever invites him as he pleases

  • @mashobanemashobane7490
    @mashobanemashobane7490 Před 2 lety +1

    Go rest Thabo

  • @theeezog2428
    @theeezog2428 Před 2 lety +6

    Stop it Mbeki just Stop it. You ushered in the 30% pass rate, you neglected the real outcries of the people regarding land and transforming the economy. The IMF sent you, just go rest please.

  • @bngmnh3583
    @bngmnh3583 Před 2 lety +2

    ...who killed Chris Hani

    • @ndlavini
      @ndlavini Před 2 lety

      Google it , the answer is there .

    • @bngmnh3583
      @bngmnh3583 Před 2 lety

      @@ndlavini ...google is run by people who bought S.Africa

    • @ndlavini
      @ndlavini Před 2 lety +1

      @@bngmnh3583 it seems you have your own answers ,tell us then ….. Be careful of propaganda, it has misled a lot of people in Africa and created multitude of rebels - we don’t need rebels on our shores.

    • @bngmnh3583
      @bngmnh3583 Před 2 lety

      @@ndlavini ...why are they not releasing Walusz, think about that.
      Not that they care much about Hani

    • @hamzahakeem6168
      @hamzahakeem6168 Před 2 lety

      @@bngmnh3583 u saying there are freedom fighters still in prison since apartheid?

  • @mashobanemashobane7490
    @mashobanemashobane7490 Před 2 lety +3

    I lost respect for this guy when he slept Mama Winnie Mandela, we should not forget that

  • @buciekhoza4064
    @buciekhoza4064 Před 2 lety +1

    I suppose you are happy now that your wish together with motlanthe has been been granted that anc now is in ashes!

  • @motsungete5905
    @motsungete5905 Před 2 lety +3

    The true renewal would be to put Zuma,Kgalema, Mbeki and Ramaphosa on the same table and breath the same oxygen. They should go to the graveyard of Mandela to apologise and start unity. Zuma is still popular than the current nose man. It means He should be brought even more closer if the unity is a serious matter. You cant ignore Zuma and speak unity.

    • @himeshmothi1605
      @himeshmothi1605 Před 2 lety

      We can never have unity if zuma just wants power to protect himself....the anc must just split, let the ret faction join the eff like ace suggested, and then we can build our country from there

  • @cooldavinci6358
    @cooldavinci6358 Před 2 lety +8

    Why is he a mediator when he is part of one faction, why do we have to take him seriously when, most notable faults in the ANC started with him. thousands our our people died during his term, him and Manto Shabalala Msimango depriving them ARVs, saying they must eat vegetables!

    • @mpumelelonontsimi3581
      @mpumelelonontsimi3581 Před 2 lety +4

      I guess you took the Vaccine?

    • @jonye7511
      @jonye7511 Před 2 lety +5

      @@mpumelelonontsimi3581 I don't have to guess that you don't know our history of ANC rule.

    • @mgcinajezile4689
      @mgcinajezile4689 Před 2 lety

      My leader just pay attention to what the mainstream media feeds you.

    • @masungilo
      @masungilo Před 2 lety

      This what happens when one depends on daily sun for serious news 🤣

    • @godloza2211
      @godloza2211 Před 2 lety

      The country is in trouble now. Things are tough now even if they can re elect you there is nothing you can do. Things were easy for you because Mandela was alive. Things were still fresh for you. You are not clever

  • @moneymanincash6816
    @moneymanincash6816 Před 2 lety +1

    Zuma is my President lo skelemu meno ramaphosa

  • @tlawengmophosho4848
    @tlawengmophosho4848 Před 2 lety +2

    This guy killed the anc by not preparing for succession and being selfish . He got rid of young people who were independent of him, but had something to offer.
    Let us face it, the anc has never been great at policy making.

    • @mzikhonampungose3639
      @mzikhonampungose3639 Před 2 lety +2

      The ANC was not killed by Mbeki, ANC is killed by Factions caused by certain individuals within

    • @mo2madigoe273
      @mo2madigoe273 Před rokem

      ANC have great policies, the problem is implementation.

  • @motsungete5905
    @motsungete5905 Před 2 lety +2

    Zuma is everything in ANC whether that makes Mbeki or Ramaphosa happy. He never abandoned the struggle because of either education or business. Ramaphosa and Mbeki are now "intelligence" or "rich" because some people including Zuma scarified their youthfulness. In fact Mbeki and ramaphosa are the white monopoly agents

    • @himeshmothi1605
      @himeshmothi1605 Před 2 lety +2

      He never abandoned because it is his ticket to steal..I don't think you knw he western influenced zuma is, or how rich he really is, wealth is only how much people knw you have...just like drug dealers, they can live average with millions of rands at their disposal

    • @lindanimbuyazi4532
      @lindanimbuyazi4532 Před 2 lety

      @@himeshmothi1605 re do your research

    • @mo2madigoe273
      @mo2madigoe273 Před rokem

      When did TM abandon the struggle?

  • @motsungete5905
    @motsungete5905 Před 2 lety

    Thabo Mbeki is at the center of devisions. He never supported Zuma and opened COPE. Thabo Mbeki supports Ramaphosa to dehumanize Zuma and ACE,yet He expected unity. Unity is a collective effort,not for the one who have an access to the cake.

  • @khayalethujimlongo4429
    @khayalethujimlongo4429 Před 2 lety +3

    Mr. President is ever on point. I so wish that ANC reelects you to become the ANC's president and Netshitenzhe our state president.

  • @siphesihlepercy3679
    @siphesihlepercy3679 Před 2 lety +1

    Umhlaba sawulinda sawuncama kuwe no Zuma no cereal themba lethu ngok nali 🚩🚩🚩