NTNON: The Two Ninnies
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- "The Two Ninnies" comedy sketch from Not The Nine O'Clock News (BBC circa 1980), parody of the comedy series "The Two Ronnies". Mel Smith (Ronnie Barker) and Griff Rhys Jones (Ronnie Corbett).
"The Two Ronnies", a popular British comedy series of the time, is parodied to perfection here. The sketch includes the obligatory silly stage performance, in which the Ronnies "march up and down on the spot" in silly uniforms and recite risque double-entendres, in front of scantily clad female dancers. - Komedie
"This is because we are a family show and I will not allow smut into your home" - I enjoy The Two Ronnies but this satirises 70's innuendo perfectly :D
The way they get faster with each verse is genius. I kept thinking 'They CANT get any faster, surely'!
Interesting to watch Ronnie Barker's interview on Wogan from 1983 where Terry put it to him about the material the Two Ronnies do, and he defended the material saying that it is up to the viewer whether they think the material is rude or not, that is the point of double entendre. I love this sketch and I think it sums up the change in the world of comedy from 1980 onwards. The old guard suddenly realise that their humour was becoming dated and the newer comedians were becoming so popular, you would expect the old guard to be defensive. I remember someone saying that Ronnie Corbett took it better than Barker. Corbett was always a stand up comedian, whilst Barker was always a comedy actor.
Today was my birthday and a present I recieved was a pair of Binoculars, instantly reminded me of this song.
Spotty Botty, Wee Wee piddling about! 😂😂😂😂 I'm gonna die from laughing!
Such an excellent response to the hypocritical criticism from the Two Ronnies towards NTNON. People who live in smutty houses shouldn't cast stones.
You're so right... nice to hear someone brave enough to say it for a change!
Plus this is actually funny....
According to Mel Smith, Ronnie Corbett thought this skit was very funny whereas Ronnie Barker was pretty pissed off, LOL.
@@steeltrap3800Barker was writing much of it, Corbett just performed the scripts.
You can stick them_________up on your tripod! 😅
😂😂
This was explained by Richard Curtis in a documentary recently, saying they did it as a reaction to the hassle they were getting from Ronnie Barker slagging them off every way he could when they started getting very popular. This was an hilarious way to say "up yours!" to them, or at least RB as he was quite scheming against them, apparently. A political victory I think; well done lads.
I disagree. Ronnie Barker was the king of comedy and this sketch is very petty and small-minded
@@JohnSmith-su3zeAnd I disagree with you. Barker didn't like others being more popular than he was.
@@stephenreeds3632 No-one was as popular as Ronnie Barker, he was the king of the BBC
He could have had Not The Nine O'Cock News taken off air if he had wanted to
Ronnie C apparently saw the funny side of it.
Absolutely brilliant!!
I read Corbett's autobiography and he says that both he and Barker were deeply upset by this. They thought it was a cruel attack on them. I'd have thought as comedians themselves they would've appreciated it but maybe it was too close to the truth for them.
The ironic thing is about this time Ronnie Barker had been slagging NTNON as being crude so they did this sketch to show that the Two Ronnies were no better. The difference is Ronnie Barker always said that it was up to the audience to get whether his "spousands of thoonerisms" or the double entendres were actually dirty or not whereas NTNON were open about it.
The same with the ominibuses,on the buses piss take by Harry Enfield and Paul Whitehouse I thought was brilliant
I think from what I’ve heard,,the fact that it was so accurate and well done,,they, especially Barker realised that their comedy was old and pretty much followed the same old format, it was more of an opening of eyes to how banal their comedy was,,that’s what upset Barker the most.
@@thetruth156real3 If Ronnie Barker was that upset about the broadcast version then imagine how he would have reacted if he saw the uncut version. I've put the script for it below.
CORBETT
Good evening, it's wonderful to be with you again, isn't it Ronnie?
BARKER
No, it's a bleeding pain in the arse, frankly. But in a packed programme tonight you'll be pleased to hear we'll be using exactly the same sort of material...
CORBETT
...as we've used for the last fifteen years.
BARKER
I shall be talking incredibly quickly, making spousands of thoonersims and dressing up in women's clothing.
CORBETT
And I shan't be getting any laughs because he writes most of the scripts and makes sure I get all the crappy bits.
BARKER
Meanwhile, I shall be telling old jokes about Irishmen with ridiculous names like Seamus Wateringcan, Paddy O'Broomcupboard…and Rastus Goldbladder.
CORBETT
And, every now and then, I shall be dressing up in women's clothing.
BARKER
Later in the show I shall be implying, through smutty innuendo...
CORBETT
...that I have a very small part...
BARKER
...and I have an enormous penis.
CORBETT
And, frequently throughout the show he shall cry...
BARKER
...'Spectacles'...
CORBETT
...by which he means testicles.
BARKER
'Cobblers'...
CORBETT
...by which he means testicles.
BARKER
'Didgery-doos'...
CORBETT
...by which he means penises.
BARKER
'Watermelons'...
CORBETT
...'Breasts'
BARKER
'Articles'...
CORBETT
...testicles again.
BARKER
'Bristols'...
CORBETT
...breasts again.
BARKER
And 'bouncers'...
CORBETT
...breasts or testicles.
BARKER
This is because we are a family show and I will not allow smut into your home.
CORBETT
We shall, however, continue to make frequent references to Raquel Welch.
BARKER
Who's pushing 50 and hasn't made a film for nearly 20 years.
CORBETT
Immediately after the news items we shall do a sketch...
BARKER
...which begins 'Hello Mrs Pigeon, would you care for a smidgin?'...
CORBETT
...and which ends 'I see you've got a new fridge in, Mr Widgin'.
BARKER
After which I shall do my popular solo sketch...
CORBETT
...which he writes himself under a heavily-publicised pseudonym...
BARKER
...in which I sit behind a desk as a spokesman for The Forgetful Society, the Congenitally Clumsy, or the Society for Pisspronunciation. When the sketch becomes too feeble for words, I shall pull down a chart...
PULLS DOWN CHART SHOWING PAIR OF KNOCKERS OR SIMILAR
CORBETT
After this, we have a five-minute break and a pre-recording of The Nolan Sisters...
BARKER
...who come cheap...
CORBETT
...and are, fortunately, even more boring than we are.
BARKER
Then we get the pre-recorded serial , shot on location in Swanage...
CORBETT
...in which we usually dress up in women's clothing...
BARKER
...surrounded by a lot of actresses in inverted commas and very little else.
CORBETT
Then comes the finale… (CUTS TO SONG)
We like birds, we're ornithologists
Horny, pornothologists
I've got a nice pair of bi-knacker-knocker-larse
You can stick them up on your tripod
We're marching up and down upon the spot spot spot
Cos the sodding choreographer's a twot twot twot
And he couldn't care a jot
If we're military men or not
With a bum, tit, how's your father
Whoops, a-diddly-i-do
Spent all day just crawling through the grass
Thistles in me hair and bracken up me anus *
I'm thrilled to bits if I see a pair of tits
And I love to watch the sun go down
Oh vagina, oh vagina, over Chinatown
We're titting up and down on the willy bum bum
Pillocking around with the cobbler's nobblers
Nibbling along with a pain in the Balkans
Piddling about in the bum plop piss
I wear my scarf when the weather turns bitter
Everybody calls him the muffled titter
I love it when the birds come a-pecking at me nuts
With a bum, tit, how's your father
Whoops, a-tickle-a-dildo
I'm a raven maniac
Got half a dozen chicks in me bivouac
I love to see them squirm with delight
When I'm giving them a little bit of worm at night
J. Arthur Rank and the titty bum Urals
Nibbling around with a pain in the Balkans
Spotty botty wee wee piddling about
In the Jimmy Riddle cami-knicker orchestras
Knickers up and down to me willy bum goolie
Knockers to the mammary nympho beaver
Knackers in the Baltic, clappering away
So we knicker and we knacker on me knocker all day
Knickers up and down to me willy bum goolie
Knockers to the mammary nympho beaver
Knackers in the Baltic, clappering away
So we knicker and we knacker
And we knocker, and we knacker
On the knicker and we knacker
And we knocker all day
Sometimes looking in the mirror is not much fun
Thanks for uploading. Makes me laugh in a way the originals never did :-)
Excellent sir.
Just superb made me larf 😂😂
R.I.P Mel Smith.
Lots and lots of plays on words in this sketch "J Arthur Rank" (cockney slang) and "over China" being two of them!!!
The NTNOCN sketches were funny and so were the Two Ronnies. To be honest they are all old school now.
Yes, it's ironic that the funniest Two Ronnies sketch wasn't even done by them!
I seem to remember fork handles was done by them
I love it brilliant
Heavens, I bet that took a lot of takes!!
pure comedy gold 😄
Interesting! Thanks for that info.
I personally think the Two Ninnies sketch is an excellent parody and the wordplay in the "musical number" beats anything the Ronnies ever did, hands down. (Although I do like the Ronnies as well.)
It's a strange dichotomy that I suffer with too, I fairly adore Ronnie Barker's comic acting - 'Open All Hours' (orig.) and 'Porridge' being up there in the top-25 of my all time favourites. On the one hand I appreciate that the old guard were indeed under attack and their uppitiness at the way in which the 'alternative' comedians were behaving - the problem was, that for the old schoolers, the fact that Mayall / Elton / Edmonson / Smith / Jones / Atkinson / Fry & Laurie / French & Saunders / Richardson, Allen, Sayle, Planer etc were not only merciless but absolutely f***** hilarious with it. The 6 parter-genius that was 'Filthy, Rich & Catflap' was so much worse when it came to the - almost - contempt the new folks felt for the old-guard - Ben Elton and Rik Mayall (as writers) just came right out and said it - "we are the future and you lot should stay in the past. And retire"
'F,R&C' not only named the 'variety' comedians without bothering with spousands of thoonerisms but they had their pictures in A1 posters hanging on the walls of the set (Richie Rich's Flat) and had Richie Rich fawning over the likes of Freddie Starr and Jimmy Tarbuck with Ade's Edwardo Catflappo character tearing them asunder (never mind that Nigel Planer played 'Ralph Filthy' who was a self confessed Liar, thief, alcoholic child-pornographer!). 'F,R&C' is some of the cruellest and laugh out loud funny material you could have to piss yourself to!
I love them all really and they can certainly co-exist in the comedy pantheon - room for both 'horny-pornothologists' and 'Scumbag College' ...
I watched The Two Ronnies as a child, but even then, was disturbed by the sexism, particularly from Barker, and in the weird, disturbing "The Worm that Turned". I always found it very worrying. But this sketch not only mocks and parodies it amazingly, but is also insanely hilarious! Strange to watch, because you'd never usually hear the Not The Nine O' Clock Newsers (my favourite program as a child!) utter childish words such as "wee wee" or "willy"! So funny... I could watch it dozens of times...
The sketch is written by the wonderful John Lloyd and brilliant Nigel Planer, and the song is written by Peter Brewis (who somewhat ironically wrote songs for The Two Ronnies)! All geniuses!
Nigel Planer ?
He wrote the talking bit ?
Disturbed by the sexism? Jesus christ you're a sop if thats true
but you were totally not disturbed with all the sexist bits in NTNOCN involving cleevage, legs, 'kind lingers', and portraying Kate Bush as a bimbo only popular cos you could see her nips through her leotard?
@@jend80 Joby was not disturbed anything, he is just trying to get attention and virtue signal. It's very sad to watch
I don't think they were particularly sexist, they were just of their time. They made fun of men just as much as women. They WERE funny. Comedy should have enough space for all different styles.
The savagery, intended or not, is only surpassed by the uncanny likeness of both the Ninnies. As legendary a duo as they were, this is almost equal to anything the comic messiah and his disciples preached. Given how often both Ninnies died on stage like Tommy Cooper, I salute them both.
Strange thing is The Two Ronnies are considered geniuses and Benny Hill is considered smut.The Two Ronnies actually copy Benny Hill sketches. When they do specials whole shows on location like visiting the beach, stately home, or a trip to the countryside, the whole thing is basically Benny Hill.
Love both. Switch on the auto-generated subtitles for an extra laugh 😂
Simon King Brilliant lol
Just did, hilarious, but I think they broke the machine.
Haha - brilliant - Ai improving comedy gold by fucking the job up completely!
I love the way the Ai just wheezes along and pretty-much gives up as Smith & Jones speed up towards the middle/end!
Porn of illusions?!!!!! That's the band name sorted then
This is savage 😂
I think if you asked Mel and Griff if this was meant as a bit of a laugh and a bit of flattery rather than an attack on the duo I'm sure they'd say it was meant in good spirits.
I think the way comedy was at this point in time may reflect Ronnie B's criticism of it.
I'm pretty sure he's up there laughing about it now along with Mel and Ronnie C.
Great comics all!
After this was broadcast Ronnie Barker phoned Mel Smith and said "You are egg hunt" then put the phone down.
Griff had met corbett & thought of him a nice guy & didnt really .want to do it, Mel went for it. Not helped that the writer had done comedy songs for the 2 ronnies & was sick of the round the houses ..innuendo & wished the rons would come out and say what theyre hinting at.
sums up The Two Ronnies perfectly
btw - is that pamela stephenson doing the high kicks in the background??
no, it's Rowan Atkinson
pachma he’s certainly got a lovely pair of legs on him.
Pamela Stevenson was one of the team.
Probably
I bet the real 2 Ronnies would have laughed at this, they were so good., NTNN was a milestone in uk comedy too.
Ronnie Barker hated it and was insulted and complained to BBC management, he felt they went too far. Ronnie Corbett loved it, found it so funny and had no complaint at all, he said well done.
Apparently Ronnie Barker was horrified by this sketch and took it very personally. Ronnie Corbett thought the sketch was hilarious.
0:06
Utter lack of mercy.
I bet Morecambe and Wise saw this too. I have a feeling Morecambe and Wise enjoyed it more than Ronnie Barker did, as Eric Morecambe always said and Ernie tried to veer away from the Two Ronnies comedy style.
Spot on! Especially about Corbett. I never thought that he had much talent. Barker did have all the best stuff and was definitely the senior partner. Brilliant piss take. Shame TTRs felt so threatened. Looking back I don't find them v funny at all. Nudge nudge wink wink humour.
Not sure you can say Corbett didn't have much talent, he was excellent. He did not have the range of talent Barker did.
He did, however, know how to take a joke, and was far more helpful to upcoming comedians
This is so close to what it’s parodying it’s barely even a parody
Ronnie Barker most certainly did not see the funny side of this!!!!
Apparently Ronnie Corbett thought it was hilarious
@@FakeSchrodingersCat Ronnie Corbett was a stand up comedian who knew how to take a joke, and he liked it, felt it was a great routine. Barker was an actor comedy performer and had a thin skin.
Whatever their “faults” the thing the Two Ronnies never did and that was to get laughs from trying to demolish other comedian’s reputations. . The acid test is that Smith and Jones are just a footnote as no one today remembers them.
What absolute tosh. The fact you are here disproves that.
I remember them
Other comedians are fair game for comedians.
Ronnie Corbett took this better than Barker. Apparently, Corbett wrote it off as young people's humour but Ronnie Barker was very angry with this send up. I knew a women who grew up in Littlehampton in the 1970's and was friends with Ronnie Barker's children. When she met him she said he was a miserable man in private so I can see why he took Umbridge at it and couldn't see the funny side.
Umbridge was always overrated, I felt, though the station and cathedral were rather quaint.
Unbelievable now in this age of PC and Snowflakiness! 😂
Ill-informed, unoriginal comment. This sketch could absolutely be broadcast today as it PARODIES the bawdy, outdated humour of the Two Ronnies.
@@SimulatorAdventures. Yeah, I do know it’s a parody but it still wouldn’t be allowed today.
Very clever and better and funnier then the two ronnies.
How in hell's name did they get away with this in 1980? If you tried this now, twitter would eat them alive!
That's why they got away with it in the 80's, because the whining , oversencitive twittercrowd wasn't born yet.
The whole 'pc brigade' became a thing around the same time as alternative comedy like NTNOCN - oh and if they were current people like you would be moaning about that sketch about 80s racist policemen harassing black men being 'woke'.
Pfft. Probaby just sour grapes because nothing they ever did was as clever.
IMO the Rons were pretty lame, despite their "spousands of thoonerisms". One good sketch of theirs was "The Spokesman/woman from the ministry of sex equality" (or something like that), with Barker dressed up as a woman on one side and a man on the other.
I'm not a fan of Corbett either. I watched "Sorry" and thought it was well named. OTOH, Open All Hours was good fun IMO.
John Cleese, Michael Palin and Terry Jones used to give the Two Ronnies the stuff the rest of Monty Python turned down or they didn't even offer to them. I heard this went for most comedy writers in the 70s and 80s who had their own series. If there was anything left unused which could be re-worked into an obvious pun or smutty punchline but.couldn't be improved much beyond that, into the Two Ronnies pile it would go.
"Hey, I've come up with a play on "fork handles" and "four candles", set in a DIY shop. Can we use it in our show?"
"No, but it sounds ideal for the Two Ronnies."
"What about an edition of Mastermind where they answer the question before last? That might be one for Eric and Ernie."
"No, they did one a few years ago which fell a bit flat. Maybe the Two Ronnies will do your sketch."
Which is a pity really, because both Ronnies had been capable of so much more.
I thought your review was lazy lame and inaccurate
@@anonUKRonnie Barker wrote the Four Candles sketch. And that Mastermind one was written especially for their show.
This show did a funny parody, but there’s no need to drag everything the Two Ronnies ever did just because NTNOCN did :)
One of the reasons why the Two Ronnies were funnier and better remembered than NTNON, was because the Two Ronnies left a bit more to the imagination rather than being outright vulgar. The other factor was that the only real talent in NTNON was Atkinson, and to a lesser extent Langham, who was sacked after the first series. Whilst it might have seemed original at the time, there was little that was unique in the writing and the format of NTNON, it just added more vulgarity to what had gone before it and approached topical issues in an anti-establishment but politically correct way.
Langham was sacked because he was a prevert.
Yeah, you keep telling yourself that.
@@Jayfive276 I will 😉
I know what I preferred to watch and it wasn't the duo.
Atkinson is more than enough talent to carry any ensemble.
though i like both the two ronnies and ntnon, this sketch seems to be in bad taste. only a tit for tat sort of thing.
It was Ronnie Barker's fault that this song got made, he bad mouthed the Not the Nine O'Clock News team, slagging them off at a BBC function, calling them not real comedians, so he deserved this. Payback.
@@jpc2470 Yes, he did. He said it and meant it. John Lloyd was at the function and heard it.
I am not surprised. Comedians knock the previous comedians, and it is the easiest laugh in the world to copy/parody, no real skill in it. I'm a fan of both The Two Ronnies and NTNON. The above sketch was weak though and not their best. TWR had some real classics and great wordplay.
Totally agree
bummer .not funny
though i like both the two ronnies and ntnon, this sketch seems to be in bad taste. only a tit for tat sort of thing.