FNaF's Biggest Misconception (Possibly): FNAF Speculation

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  • čas přidán 23. 07. 2024
  • Just some Filler lore to get back into the swing of things.
    Models:
    www.deviantart.com/taddydudst...
    00:00 - Intro
    00:53 - Which Endo ?
    03:54 - Which plush suit
    08:42 - Final Verdict
    09:07 - Timeline
    10:16 - outro
    #fivenightsatfreddys
    #fnaf
    #securitybreach
    fnaf
    five nights at freddy's
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Komentáře • 134

  • @danmakuSuki
    @danmakuSuki Před rokem +87

    I honestly think the FNaF fandom cares waaaay more about character design consistency than Scott does. Pizzeria Simulator was where it became clear that Scott just likes making new models for each character appearance, and doesn't worry much about the details. People whine about Fredbear's design, but I'm sure if Scott had made a game where Fredbear played a more prominent role, he would've given him a unique model. And if there was another game afterwords where Fredbear played another prominant role, he'd have gotten another entirely new model, with a different number of buttons and toes and so on. Still unclear where Steel Wool stands in this regard, though.

    • @THGMR-ox7sd
      @THGMR-ox7sd Před rokem +11

      People whine about fredbear’s design? I honestly think it’s fine. It looks similar to fnaf 1 Freddy but yellow and has purple hat and bow tie but they don’t look EXACTLY the same, just very similar. If they looked identical like golden Freddy and Freddy do then I would notice.

    • @datajacked4179
      @datajacked4179 Před 6 měsíci +1

      To be fair when a redesign does happens it’s for lore purposes
      Like how Springtrap looks different from Scraptrap, he’s not just a redesign, it’s Springtrap escaping his old suit and replacing it with a new one

    • @SuperSonicbros4
      @SuperSonicbros4 Před 2 měsíci +1

      I mean you have to think inuniverse, since it really wouldn't make sense inuniverse if it's the same

  • @Wizardjones69
    @Wizardjones69 Před rokem +56

    the problem its the voice line from phone guy: the old models are from the previus location

    • @vahahadziev
      @vahahadziev Před rokem +8

      Because they are from Fredbear and Friends restaurant, hence the name.

    • @Wizardjones69
      @Wizardjones69 Před rokem +13

      @@vahahadziev the withereds never was in fredbears, they were in freddy's 1983 and fredbears and friends is the cartoon

    • @oliverlow2474
      @oliverlow2474 Před rokem +2

      That’s what the video said. They existed at the previous location, but they looked like the Classics.

  • @ludovicorusso-gm1kw
    @ludovicorusso-gm1kw Před rokem +25

    you know the coin thing, on the coin it says when the company was founded and most certainly that coin was made after 1983, so they use classic Freddy. so if the coin was made in 1983, it would have unwithered Freddy instead

  • @spookyscaryskeleton3513
    @spookyscaryskeleton3513 Před rokem +19

    I wouldn't call this a misconception because the idea that the unwithereds never existed and it was just the classics again is a theory too, not a fact.
    But let's actually tackle the theory:
    -The retrofitting with the newer technology. The idea is that the "newer technology" is the entirety of endo-02, when the truth is that the game itself describes what the "newer technology" is: The facial recognition software. The sole purpose of the "retrofitting" is just to explain game mechanics in the lore (Most of the withereds can be fooled by the mask, explained by them being added the facial recognition software too).
    -Endo-01 being the same as Endo-02: Interesting point, but that also works in favor of our theory. If the robots possess the endos, then the withereds always having Endo-02 is completely plausible as those Endos were never truly changed. We can also use this in our favor as to why Endo-01 exists: Economic reasons. Endo-01 exists because they can't afford making the Endo-02 anymore, so they used what they had to make a simpler, worse version, which is Endo-01. They're so bad that they can't leave them still on the stage the whole time Or they will genuinely stop working.
    -Fredbear using Endo-01: Scott was lazy when making Fredbear, so lazy that he didn't even give change the endo because he's a Freddy reskin and it'd also be easier to recognize. Fredbear is also a Springlock suit, not a full on animatronic like the rest of them, so him having Endo-01 is lore-wise wrong and isn't a good point. But Fredbear looking like classic Freddy can also be argued as Freddy taking on Fredbear's design (Design, not endo) later on in the timeline, albeit a little different. Also, Nightmare Fredbear is a Nightmarish version of the Fredbear character in 1983, which looks leagues different to classic Freddy AND withered Freddy still.
    -Endo-01 meaning he's the first lore-wise: The names only exist to differentiate the two, since one of them appears in FNAF 1, that's endo-01, and the other appears in FNAF 2, so Endo-02. They're just describing what game they appear in, that's it.
    -The classics appearing everywhere else instead of the unwithereds: That's because they're the most well-known faces of the Franchise, of course they'd appear everywhere else.
    -The books, and HW: The books is obviously because they're not the same continuity and the entirety of FNAF 2 and what that game entails doesn't happen in there, so the Withereds being the originals, then redesigned to the classics after the closure of the 1987 Freddy's doesn't happen at all. Using the last point, of course the classics would be used in the books as those are the most well-known faces. Same is the case for HW in pizza party, which is a non-accurate depiction of the MCI, so I don't think anything in it should be used as proof for any theories.
    That's pretty much it, the withereds would be the ones that existed during the MCI, several points you made can be used in favor of the original assumption and of course... Unwithered Freddy drawing messes up all of it.

    • @sambar2772
      @sambar2772  Před rokem +6

      Yea I know it's a theory, that's why I put "Possibly" in the title.
      - The newer technology is not just the facial recognition. The toys move much smoother than the old gang. which could mean the newer technology also enhances the movement and how the robots act. The endo 02 were only used by the Toys and partially by the withereds. if the newer technology was only the facial recognition, then why make endo 01 in the first place. Unless endo 02 are just an upgraded model to the endo 01. Like the toys were.
      - The excuse of servo's locking up is complete false and made up by phone guy to explain the gang walking around. And yes it was cheaper to make the endo 01s. But it wouldn't make sense for Fazbears to just create new endos in the first place, if they are just cutting costs, they would just reuse the old endos again. The reason they use Endo 01s is because it's an older version of the endos they could rely on and fall back into.
      - Like I said, regardless of inconsistencies, the Fredbear design we see in UCN is the real Fredbear, minigames designs are always inconsistent, and the nightmares are not based on any fazbear designs, they just look like the monster versions of the characters but not based on any specific look. If Scott didn't intent for Fredbear to look like that in UCN, then why did he stick with it after that. The only notable difference he did with the fredbear design is that he added 5 fingers. That wouldn't be a contradiction anyways, since Fredbear's Jumpscare doesn't show his hands. Fredbear has always looked like a copy of Freddy with minor differences.
      - yea I get that, but the Endo-02 is supposed to be a better and upgraded version of Endo-01. Like how the toys are upgraded versions of the old gang.
      - I also get that, but like I said, the un-withereds are never seen anywhere. Even in the fnaf 2 cutscenes, they show a flashback of the old gang. And they look like their Classic designs.
      - That's fair
      Like I said in the Video. There are 2 possible outcomes from this. The gang either looked like the Un-withereds, with endo-01s instead of endo-02s, or they just look like the classics.
      It doesn't really mater anyways. This doesn't really effect the lore in the grand scheme of things.

    • @CreeperokGames
      @CreeperokGames Před rokem +5

      What I remember about Nightmare Fredbear is that he looks like classic Freddy because of his more spherical shape then the other Nightmares, who have more parallelepidoid shape, especially torsos, like Withereds; and design of N. Chica's head is also similar to withered counterpart. Tthe things against it are that none of them have any buttons and that N. Freddy and N. Bonnie have similar torsos unlike withereds. Sorry for my English

    • @syweb2
      @syweb2 Před rokem +3

      @@sambar2772 The FNaF 2 cutscenes aren't flashbacks, but flash-forwards. I thought that was clear.

    • @picardia9496
      @picardia9496 Před rokem +3

      @@syweb2 Is not the DCI before FNaF 2 current events? The toys started to behave strange before Jeremy's turn.

    • @SonZackSSJ2
      @SonZackSSJ2 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@sambar2772Except That wouldn’t make sense Because why would they be talking about the Endoskeletons like their the new Technology? And besides the Fredbear in UCN is not The Canon Fredbear because That’s just a Demon made by Cassidy. The Canon Fredbear is Literally the same way you can imagine Nightmare Fredbear if he wasn’t a Nightmare. Besides The Cutscenes in FNaF2 are from FNaF1 Freddy, not 1983 Freddy. If UCN Fredbear was the Canon Fredbear, Nightmare Fredbear would be a Recolor.

  • @belrumwade4733
    @belrumwade4733 Před rokem +11

    Admittedly I do see the Withereds as the case of "just being a redesign for X thing" (funny since the Afton Bunnie Traps are the ones that are usually involved in that sort of debate).
    A reason for me to believe that is the fact that in Help Wanted, the Withereds weren't originally in the games, but FNaF1 Foxy was serving as Withered Foxy, and Phantom Freddy and Phantom Foxy look like their versions of FNaF1 (granted, I believe Withered Bonnie's model was in the files but unfinished through out that time).

  • @YaBoiJamo
    @YaBoiJamo Před rokem +7

    I think Scott just wanted to change the designs, they’re the same characters, but he wanted to do something new.

  • @juliabp6057
    @juliabp6057 Před rokem +33

    I agree with almost everything you've said. Even in the movie, the animatronics in 1985 look identical to the FNAF 1 models. This also happens in the novels, and most likely in Into the pit aswell.
    Even though the events of FNAF 2 never happened in the trilogy (and most likely won't happen in the movies too, as William/Matthew and Vanessa/Elizabeth Lail say in the leaked trailer that the pizzaria shut down for good after the MCI), we can't deny the fact that we have never seen an official version of the "unwithered" models.
    And it's sad that many people in the community still believe that the withered animatronics aren't the classic ones, just because of an inconsistent design, especially because it's a fact that the kids who died in 1985 are the same that possess the robots from the first game.

    • @AbeTheBabe6233
      @AbeTheBabe6233 Před rokem +3

      it means the chain was popular in the 80's. FNaF 1's location opened up in 1988 and that's still the 80's isn't it? Besides, it never even says once that it's from 1985??? Where did you get that from?? And what's to prove the events of FNaF 2 didn't happen. the souls of the kids still possess the animatronics in FNaF 1 because it's just upgraded from the 'Unwithered' suits.

    • @SuperSonicbros4
      @SuperSonicbros4 Před 6 měsíci

      Doesn't really make sense for them to be the fnaf 1 models

    • @SuperSonicbros4
      @SuperSonicbros4 Před měsícem

      Plus desgin changes has always given lore reasoning too

    • @SuperSonicbros4
      @SuperSonicbros4 Před měsícem

      Also like does it really matter at all? It isn't effecting the lore at all if you believe they exist or they don't

  • @TonyPlays76
    @TonyPlays76 Před rokem +5

    I think that Fazbear Entertainment used the Un-withered shells and a Endo-01 and spring lock endo mix, (The first Freddys was opened in late 1983, the Un-Withereds were probably built before) than the spring locks were removed and the endo 02 editions were added then they became the withered animatronics, Than after the 1987 restaurant closes they removed the endo 02 additions and had them be the endo 01 and new shells (They newspaper at the end of fnaf 2 says that the withered are gonna be rebuilt leading into fnaf 1)

  • @shearman360
    @shearman360 Před rokem +10

    It doesn't make any sense that they would make blueprints for the unwithereds and build them without stopping because they were ugly. But the originals HAVE to look like the classics because of the puppet giving the classic freddy life in the end of night cutscenes. Either the animatronic designers at Freddy's are morons or the end of night cutscenes aren't the puppet giving freddy life and are completely pointless. Or Scott just forgot that they wouldnt have had those designs back then.

    • @sambar2772
      @sambar2772  Před rokem +3

      Like I said. They most probably stopped because they found the bodies

    • @CreeperokGames
      @CreeperokGames Před rokem +7

      ​@@sambar2772 Idk man, they updated the shells, altered the endos, the INSIDES, and only then they noticed bodies? Maybe it's just a redesign for redesign, like scraptrap, but for my headcannon withered design were used somewhere before they became the withereds we know

    • @gdeveloper3309
      @gdeveloper3309 Před 6 měsíci

      or alternatively, the end of night cutscenes are Mike's dreams in the future during fnaf 1
      it seems the person having the dreams saw the puppet staring into them, which fits with the phantom puppet hallucination doing something identical. it might hint that the dreamer of that dream went on to become the nightguard at fazbear frights, and i doubt that guard or dreamer would be Jeremy

  • @jojostarsea
    @jojostarsea Před rokem +17

    okay, here's my take. we literally see the withered's in game with many differences in design to the fnaf 1 characters. it would make no sense for them to be the classic characters and then when theyre broken they completely change design, and then back to how they originally looked. i think when they rebuilt the withereds, they remodeled them to look more like the plushies of the characters, to make them less ugly. also i think the freddy plushie was designed off of fredbear. having designs completely change with no explanation does not "make more sense". buttons appearing and disappearing, different amounts of toes, different body shapes, different faces etc

    • @sambar2772
      @sambar2772  Před rokem +3

      Like I said, they were planned to be redesigned and upgrade the endos. But after they found the bodies they stopped.
      The reason they went back to those designs again was because they were more recognizable. Because that's how they looked before

    • @jfdgbfjlttkntg
      @jfdgbfjlttkntg Před rokem +2

      ​@@sambar2772ur just looking too deep into this, the withered are the originals period

    • @sambar2772
      @sambar2772  Před rokem +2

      Believe me, I know I am
      But it's fun to talk about

    • @ChairChairChairChairChairChair
      @ChairChairChairChairChairChair Před rokem

      ​@@jfdgbfjlttkntg These are both just theories

    • @jfdgbfjlttkntg
      @jfdgbfjlttkntg Před rokem +3

      @@ChairChairChairChairChairChair and I'm just saying my thoughts, I don't believe it makes sense for them to have used the og ones, because they didn't exist back then, and also if they did that would mean they took the parts off to put the withered parts on so they would've seen the corpses. His theory makes no sense if u use common sense, that and Scott didn't have everything planned out from the beginning Scott is not a mastermind of storytelling.

  • @THGMR-ox7sd
    @THGMR-ox7sd Před rokem +4

    This hurts my brain but still a very interesting idea.

  • @Shoopert
    @Shoopert Před rokem +1

    Great video! You did a good job showing each side

  • @Meh-meh-meh-meh-meh
    @Meh-meh-meh-meh-meh Před 12 dny +1

    I think the unwithereds could be a mixture of the classics and themselves

  • @gdeveloper3309
    @gdeveloper3309 Před 6 měsíci

    this is a pretty good theory, it does raise a lot of valid points
    i think it could still be possible some versions of the withered-looking models were originally used since Mike's fnaf 4 nightmares show nightmarish animatronics that have builds of the withered animatronics with endo02 models
    springtrap/spring bonnie is however an endo02 model (notice the rings in his arm only present in endo02) so it may be possible that the original versions of the animatronics back in the early 80's also used endo02 despite the strange naming thing implying there is already an endo01
    and i guess fredbear in the minigames also uses piston jaws which very closely matches what the withered animatronics have
    i honestly dunno if the fredbear in ucn is how fredbear looked in the 80's or not thou, idk
    altogether i think i could see it going either way

  • @heyittgsf
    @heyittgsf Před rokem +12

    I also started to grow the idea they were the classic instead of unwithered, some proof i found myself is , in the call phone guy say they were replaced for being too ugly, why would they be around for 1983 to 1985 if they always were too ugly ? Also with Fazbear Entertainement being cheap , i can see them not making the effort to redesign Freddy and just making a recolor . I came with the conclusion they first used the classic, then respaired and used the unwithered design , but changed to the toy since they were ugly for the kid.

    • @mylastaccountgotdeletedtha6936
      @mylastaccountgotdeletedtha6936 Před rokem +3

      Look at old Mickey Mouss costumes used at Disneyland back in the day and compare them to modern costumes. A lot of things meant to be kid-friendly back then often ended up uncanny, especially during the Cold War era FNAF takes place in.

  • @kaitospycher2386
    @kaitospycher2386 Před rokem +4

    Withered Freddy and Withered Bonnie have two buttons on their chests and Withered Chica has a different jaw design to classic Chica! Explain those two slightly insignificant things.
    Do NOT say different shells.

  • @Sonicmid
    @Sonicmid Před 4 měsíci +1

    The retrofit theory has 2 bad and good things about it
    Bad: the unwithered don’t exist and that kind of makes Fnaf 2 being a prequel, less interesting
    Good: the withered animatronics can pull up in the second movie full sale.

    • @Wizardjones69
      @Wizardjones69 Před 2 měsíci

      and so fnaf media only puts the classics as the 85 designs and never shows the unwithereds, i think scott want to put obvious that the unwithereds arent the original designs, and so into the pit confirms that

  • @tylerresh293
    @tylerresh293 Před rokem +3

    Also the empty Freddy Fazbear head that we have in fnaf 2 is a classic Freddy head

    • @CreeperokGames
      @CreeperokGames Před rokem +3

      No, the model is Withered Freddy's. You can compare it to the dream cutscenes from fnaf 2 mask. Eyeholes are different

  • @f7or1n
    @f7or1n Před rokem +11

    dude fredbear looks like that because he updated himself to the latest freddy fazbear which is fnaf 1, the true fredbear is fnaf 4 but not creepy and not damaged

    • @demitri9211
      @demitri9211 Před rokem

      this is wrong, it’s been proven that ultimate custom night fredbear is canon

    • @1Tombb
      @1Tombb Před rokem

      Updated himself? Is this satire?

    • @Butter003
      @Butter003 Před rokem +1

      @@1Tombb because it’s a ghost. it just takes the form of the nearest freddy.

    • @f7or1n
      @f7or1n Před rokem

      @@1Tombb when freddy looks different GF copies that design

    • @f7or1n
      @f7or1n Před rokem

      @@demitri9211 he is canon but thats not the only desing he has and definetly the one from 1983, thats 1993 fredbear

  • @violetnocte
    @violetnocte Před 2 měsíci

    The reason I don't believe this theory is because the damage, to me, doesn't look like it's caused by people.
    Sure, Bonnie's missing face and arms and Chica's missing hands could have been taken for parts, but look at the main three's legs and Foxy's torso and arms and tell me that's from a person.
    It seems more likely to either be wear and tear (which would imply they were used at some point) or it was chewed through by animals (which staff wouldn't let happen unless they either didn't care about getting shut down for health reasons or the place they were at was abandoned for a bit.)

  • @GoodlyData86596
    @GoodlyData86596 Před rokem +2

    Honestly my bad not realizing you had made a video on the subject of people misidentifying animatronics as completely different characters rather than different versions of the otherwise same character (it’s like calling someone who is 20 a completely different person than said someone when they were five, even if it’s technically true you know that the technicality wasn’t what the person was getting at with the statement, thusly making the statement false because they are the same person, just at different points in time.) so I now have context as to why you reacted somewhat harshly to my comment on your (as of the writing of this comment) most recent video.
    Anyways I have always wondered how hard it is to believe that a company on a shoestring budget would rather modify their existing animatronics (especially since most of the modifications happen with the suits, the likely much cheaper to modify or in some instances replace part of the animatronic than the actual endoskeleton.) than get a completely new set of animatronics that they also have to hire someone to program in addition to getting new costumes for said new animatronics. That doesn’t make it right but if you really wanted to open a Freddy’s pizzeria again after the mountain of lawsuits filed against your company, then that would probably be the only reasonable option (you know, back when the loremaster Scott actually cared about making the events make logical sense in terms of how and why people would do things instead of “if it’s simbolic then it could happen”)

    • @GoodlyData86596
      @GoodlyData86596 Před rokem

      P.s. we shouldn’t call half assed jobs “canon designs”

  • @Elavator66
    @Elavator66 Před 8 měsíci +1

    The movie pretty much confirms this, aside from withered foxys head???

  • @Cesinha..
    @Cesinha.. Před rokem +1

    Probably in the fnaf 2 movie they will fix it, making the withereds the same as the classics.

    • @syweb2
      @syweb2 Před rokem

      The movies are in their own continuity, though, like the Silver Eyes trilogy (and probably other books).

  • @SpringButterflyHare
    @SpringButterflyHare Před 6 měsíci +1

    if withereds are classics then explain chica“s mouth

  • @vatifz
    @vatifz Před rokem

    Dog, im soo happy that you finally came back

  • @Wizardjones69
    @Wizardjones69 Před rokem +5

    i like the idea of the classics be the fnaf 1 characters, but im still think in the "unwithereds", can be that in 1983 they scrapped the endo 01 model because henry wants to make a place more safety and he made 02, thats why in take cake to children freddy moves ( its not fredbear but can be a suit of freddy )
    and because the withereds can fit a body of a child better instead of the classics

    • @sambar2772
      @sambar2772  Před rokem +3

      The problem with that is. Why would Fazbears reuse endo 02 for the toys. They would probably make new endoskeletons for the toys

    • @thebeanbag8407
      @thebeanbag8407 Před rokem +3

      ​@@sambar2772well, fazbear entertainment is known for being cheap and reusing assets to cut corners

    • @sambar2772
      @sambar2772  Před rokem +1

      But the old gang were implemented with newer technology. If they reused the same endo, what new technology did they implement ?

    • @Wizardjones69
      @Wizardjones69 Před rokem

      @@sambar2772 the technology of scan CRIMINALS, before was just walk around the place like in foxy go go go and take cake to children

    • @CreeperokGames
      @CreeperokGames Před rokem +2

      ​@@sambar2772 maybe it's in mainly the programming, and the endo got only slight tweaks

  • @beaustu
    @beaustu Před rokem +1

    why would the company go out of there way to change the endos back to the originals?

  • @goldendarius
    @goldendarius Před rokem +1

    This whole theory completely falls apart because we know thanks to fnaf 3 and following games that the original four were springlock-compatible, but they didn't give them springlock endos, due to what we know has happened (aka the simultaneous springlock failures). Another point that disproves any of this is the fact that in fnaf 1 they literally say that the suits arent human compatible, but they were originally created to be wearable so it conflicts heavily with that. My last point is also the height difference between the withereds and the classics, they're much higher and the shape of their endoskeleton is unique from both the endo 01 and endo 02. It was probably a prototype of the endo 02 which is why they are this tall

  • @2dfan942
    @2dfan942 Před rokem +5

    From what I know, the first game takes place before the first one, so endo 1’s are less clunky to save space, meaning that endo 2’s are actually the middle part, we had an even clunkier version before, but we don’t know how that looks, probably more like the Fredbear biting scene as it seems more primitive mechanics wise. 2:11

    • @1Tombb
      @1Tombb Před rokem +7

      The first game took place before the first game?

    • @2dfan942
      @2dfan942 Před rokem

      @@1Tombb no cause after the bite of ‘87 was referenced in the first game, but if you check the paycheck Jeremy gets in fnaf2 it’s from 1987

    • @TheRealCeas
      @TheRealCeas Před rokem +4

      FNaF 1 can't take place before FNaF 2, as phone guy is dead at during FNaF 1 but he's not in FNaF 2

    • @syweb2
      @syweb2 Před rokem +1

      @@2dfan942 He's commenting on your weird wording, where you accidentally used "first" twice instead of "second", making your intention unclear.

  • @user-fn8nx5tn8e
    @user-fn8nx5tn8e Před 11 měsíci

    Maybe in 1983 was opened the pizzeria of the fixed whiters but it failed and re-opened later as fnaf 2 location with the old whiters inside and after it closed it re-opened again as fnaf 1 but the whiters where re-desined and put in the same building they were made for 🤷‍♂️

  • @SonicFabear
    @SonicFabear Před 7 měsíci

    i fitted the endo 01 in the unwithered freddy and i faced a problem 1 its too tall 2 the arms don't fit in place solution 1 the suit has to be taller or 2 the endo has to be shorter

  • @SuperSonicbros4
    @SuperSonicbros4 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I disagree in my opinion but i will respect this theory and opinion. I prefer them being the unwithereds since 1- I really like the designs, 2 - it makes the most sense in my opinion (inuniverse wise)

  • @localdoormatshitter
    @localdoormatshitter Před rokem +1

    First of all, why would new plush suit if scrapped
    The logo isn't Freddy fazbear, it's cannon fredbear , the original ( idk, I'm tired)
    Second, why put back together then take apart?

  • @DrZomboss01
    @DrZomboss01 Před rokem +2

    Can we get an explanation for why your profile is Obi-Wan Kenobi after trying to kick General Grievous in his shin, but hurting himself in the process?

    • @sambar2772
      @sambar2772  Před rokem +3

      I don't really know
      It just popped up in my head for no reason. And I thought it was funny 😄

    • @DrZomboss01
      @DrZomboss01 Před rokem +1

      @@sambar2772 Pretty valid reason. I would've picked it too since I like star wars

  • @Wizardjones69
    @Wizardjones69 Před 5 měsíci

    Looks like into the pit game confirmed the classics85 instead of withereds85

  • @mellowjr3525
    @mellowjr3525 Před 11 měsíci

    My question is, if the classics and withereds are the same animatronics, then why do we see the withereds as phantoms in fnaf 3?

  • @user-wm1te7cb1k
    @user-wm1te7cb1k Před rokem

    I kinda feel like there was just different models for different locations or Scott just changed the models

  • @christiancardona7342
    @christiancardona7342 Před rokem

    I respect your opinion on unwithered

  • @thebeanbag8407
    @thebeanbag8407 Před rokem

    Ucn fredbear is just recolored freddy made by Scott in 2 minutes just to throw in as an little Easter egg

    • @sambar2772
      @sambar2772  Před rokem

      And yet, he stuck with the design ever since

    • @CreeperokGames
      @CreeperokGames Před rokem +2

      ​@@sambar2772 I didn't see any official appearance of Fredbear model since ucn, so idk. Also about fnaf world, A. withered Freddy is different to A. shadow Freddy and A. phantom Freddy despite having the same model in the original games. I think it's because they are modeled after W. golden Freddy, who is an iteration of Fredbear and he's different to more modern at the time W. Freddy model. I don't know about being first, but I think that Withered designs were used in fnaf canon, maybe later in the 1985 idk

  • @Pygargue00fr
    @Pygargue00fr Před rokem

    Now this is something I had been wondering for years now. Besides fredbear and spring bonnie looked more advanced than the withered anyways so...

    • @mylastaccountgotdeletedtha6936
      @mylastaccountgotdeletedtha6936 Před rokem

      Funny thing, back in 2014/2015, I thought the withereds were made in a location from the 1970s… I still think their designs have that look.

  • @wutrudoin5431
    @wutrudoin5431 Před rokem

    The toys don't have endo 02s, we see their endos in Help Wanted and they look different.

  • @j_santiagoperez2006
    @j_santiagoperez2006 Před rokem

    The only thing i dont understand, is that fnaf 2 was a prequel to fnaf 1

  • @christiancardona7342
    @christiancardona7342 Před 7 měsíci

    I respect your opinion on sambar

  • @Bumbleberto
    @Bumbleberto Před 7 měsíci

    I like the unwithered models because I think the withered are the original before they are broken I think they look cool but I think you’re wrong or right but I am not sure?

  • @MrEmerald4777
    @MrEmerald4777 Před rokem

    we need scott to make fredbear game

    • @AbeTheBabe6233
      @AbeTheBabe6233 Před rokem +1

      are you a new fnaf fan? scott don't make the games anymore

    • @MrEmerald4777
      @MrEmerald4777 Před rokem

      @@AbeTheBabe6233 I can only hope he makes another

    • @AbeTheBabe6233
      @AbeTheBabe6233 Před rokem

      @@MrEmerald4777 yeah I agree

  • @ThomasTaylor258
    @ThomasTaylor258 Před rokem

    Yup

  • @SonZackSSJ2
    @SonZackSSJ2 Před 11 měsíci

    No Fredbear in UCN is not the Same one we see in FNaF4, that Fredbear was a Demon/Manifestation made by Cassidy. Just because Some Fredbears look like Freddy doesn’t mean the Canon One does too. Not to mention if Fredbear was just a Recolor Freddy, Nightmare And Nightmare Fredbear would be Nightmare Freddy Recolors as well. And as for the Unwithered Designs not being Canon, that’s debunkable considering that’s like Saying just because we don’t know who did the Bite of ‘87, then it never happened. And the “Dreams” are most likely showing what Freddy was seeing at Night during those Cutscenes, just because they Pop up every game doesn’t mean their the Original Design, for instance, the 1983 Tokens could easily be basing Freddy from the Fredbear and Friends show rather than the Animatronic. Besides, it was never confirmed that the Books and the Games take Place in the Same Canon. You should realize that the Kids bodies were never even found inside the suits, the Night 6 Phone Call says Explicitly that a Suit was used and the Phone Guy is distressed and an Investigation was going on, that means William Afton got on the Spring Bonnie, lured 5 kids in and killed them. And plus the “Newer Technology” wasn’t Endo 02, It was the Toy Animatronic Suits, and why would they rebuild them but stop when they look ugly? That doesn’t make sense.

    • @Wizardjones69
      @Wizardjones69 Před 8 měsíci

      so why the plushies from fnaf 2 looks like the classics instead of the withereds lol

    • @SonZackSSJ2
      @SonZackSSJ2 Před 8 měsíci

      @@Wizardjones69 that could easily be because the Merch is Based on the Fredbear and Friends show rather than the Animatronics themselves.

    • @Wizardjones69
      @Wizardjones69 Před 8 měsíci

      @@SonZackSSJ2 so how the freddy and friends cartoon the animatronics freddy and bonnie dony have buttoms

    • @SonZackSSJ2
      @SonZackSSJ2 Před 8 měsíci

      @@Wizardjones69 That can simply be cartoon design choices funny enough.

    • @Wizardjones69
      @Wizardjones69 Před 8 měsíci

      @@SonZackSSJ2 and why into the pit have the fnaf 1 designs lol

  • @DipsyProductionsOfficial

    Arent there fnaf 1 parts in the blob

  • @Darksoul-ts4ho
    @Darksoul-ts4ho Před rokem

    Hey man I'm not sure if it's me but I'm pretty sure there's no audio

  • @mylastaccountgotdeletedtha6936

    Perhaps I’m biased because the withereds are my favorites and I don’t like the classics that much, but I think there was more likely the inverse that happened, in a way.
    1. You mentioned the old characters were retrofitted with new technology. If they replaced the entire endoskeleton, why does it still show signs of age? Why not just swap out the costumes and reprogram them? The retrofitting probably only goes to minor details and the facial recognition technology.
    2. Phone guy explicitly states the characters are from the previous location.
    3. In the end newspaper, it was said the toys would be scrapped and the old versions would be repaired and put into a smaller location. Comparing Endo-02’s more complex and rigid design to Endo-01’s simpler and fragile design shows the two are notably different. Maybe they changed the jaws because of the bite, but then again, this is Fazbear Entertainment, safety isn’t really something they prioritize.
    4. In the FNAF 3 follow-me minigames, Freddy and Bonnie have buttons on their sprites. The classics don’t have buttons, but the withereds do. It’s possible Afton disassembled them before the FNAF 1 location even opens (remember, this is an older location that’s been left to rot for years), leading to newer, cheaper endoskeletons being designed as well as newer more kid-friendly suits. It would make more sense considering the withereds possibly had the MCI kids stuffed into them before and Afton decided to disassemble them either because he fears them, or he’s trying to hide evidence, or figure out how they’re “alive.” In any case, he destroys them, gets springtrapped in the safe room, and then said room probably gets boarded up right before the place opens.
    5. The designs of the Nightmares in FNAF 4 are mixed. Bonnie and Chica look mostly like their unwithered counterparts while Freddy and Foxy closer resemble FNAF 1. The nightmare endoskeleton, on the other hand, bears more in resemblance to Endo-02, indicating that Endo-02 was the standard from before 1983 to FNAF 1 in ~1993. Should FNAF 4 be considered? We don’t know what it’s supposed to be, who we play as, if it’s real, an illusion, or a bad dream. We could go in a bizarre direction and say the withereds were built even earlier like in the 1970s while the nightmares are based on the actual 1983 animatronics, but there’s not much evidence to that quagmire of a theory.
    6. Somebody brought up the FNAF 2 between night cutscenes that took place in the FNAF 1 location and said they must’ve taken place in ~1985. We don’t know when those take place, but it’s most likely FNAF 1, and the purpose was probably to state that the puppet was in FNAF 1. As for Golden Freddy, he’s a hallucination/paranormal entity. In FNAF 1 he can blatantly teleport and in FNAF 2 he pulls a Wario apparition and turns into a giant floating head. I think he’s most likely Cassidy trying to reach out from the Fredbear suit.
    7. This is a more personal thing, but when you look back in time, the further back you go, the less kid-friendly some things are. The classics look more soft, round, and just more kid-friendly than the withereds. Like I implied before, the withereds (at least to me) look like they came out of the 1970s. Considering how advanced the other characters are though, like the toys, the funtimes (Baby was made around the mid to late 1980s, the others likely came shortly later), and even Fredbear and Springbonnie, the 1970s withereds idea isn’t too hard to believe, though like I said, no evidence, too over complicated. In addition, Scott didn’t plan any sequels for FNAF 1 initially, but he did plan out FNAF 3 during FNAF 2’s development, as stated in Dawko’s interview.
    This whole debate started because of design inconsistencies anyway. I think if Scott knew ahead, he probably would’ve made the repaired withereds instead of the classics, but because of the classics recognizability compared to the withereds, they became canon and he just ignored the design inconsistencies while he focused on the rest of the lore.

    • @sambar2772
      @sambar2772  Před rokem

      Believe me, I don't agree with my own theory, it was just an observation I've made and I thought to look deeper into it, so don't take my theory 100% seriously. I guess I should've made that clear in the video itself :P
      But thank you for commenting.

  • @not-existent8376
    @not-existent8376 Před rokem +1

    I thnk t e smea cld b zaid for t e lok8hzinz

  • @Sonicmid
    @Sonicmid Před měsícem

    Yeah you were completely right into the pit is confirming it

  • @bananamanjunior7575
    @bananamanjunior7575 Před 11 měsíci

    Maybe... it's not that deep 🤔

    • @Wizardjones69
      @Wizardjones69 Před 7 měsíci

      Still, why the plushies in fnaf 2 are the fnaf 1 ones?

    • @bananamanjunior7575
      @bananamanjunior7575 Před 7 měsíci

      @henriquefigueiraferreira1608 "Uh, hello? Hello! Uh, see, I told you your first night wouldn’t be a problem, You’re a natural! Uh, by now I’m sure you’ve noticed the older models, sitting in the back room. Uh, those are from the previous location, we just use them for parts now. The idea at first was to repair them. Uh, they even started retrofitting them with some of the newer technology. But they were just so ugly, you know? And the smell…ugh. Uh, so the company decided to go in a whole new direction, and make them super kid-friendly. Uh, those older ones shouldn’t be able to walk around, but if they do, the whole Freddy head trick should work on them too, sooo, whatever."
      I understand that it is true now

    • @Wizardjones69
      @Wizardjones69 Před 7 měsíci

      @@bananamanjunior7575 why freddy and friends has the cartoon fnaf 1 designs?

    • @Wizardjones69
      @Wizardjones69 Před 7 měsíci

      @@bananamanjunior7575 theres literally a spanish video about this topic with much more proof czcams.com/video/s-8QiNKRI0I/video.htmlsi=oQRJs0CDvsJb6bcb

  • @NecroEddie
    @NecroEddie Před rokem +1

    your whole argument would need fnaf 2 to happen after fnaf 1, and we know that's not the case.

    • @Wizardjones69
      @Wizardjones69 Před rokem

      One thing, the classics are abandoned in the 1985 location, after this happens fnaf 2, after that happens fnaf 1, where they reuses the old robots from 1985 with the corpses, thats explain why fnaf 1 location looks rotten, abandoned

  • @not-existent8376
    @not-existent8376 Před rokem +1

    I ben tryn' 2 lok for t e RokZtr'z zkltn for an wihl' now, anbt 1 2 3 yerz.