Age of Sigmar 4: Seraphon Faction Pack 2024 - Full Review

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Komentáře • 112

  • @dratesdragetes777
    @dratesdragetes777 Před měsícem +58

    I'm a guy who likes dinosaurs to some degree

    • @thehonestwargamerstreams
      @thehonestwargamerstreams  Před měsícem +15

      The scales are in the balance

    • @CoastalZugMek
      @CoastalZugMek Před 28 dny +3

      That fosho same here or for me as well they really go w/ my Heritage/Ethnicity. I am Mex.-American. But the whole Seraphon/Great Old ones goes off and biased on the Aztec, Mayan and Incas. Maybe some on Native American Tribes too.

    • @thirdeyespirit7530
      @thirdeyespirit7530 Před 27 dny +2

      @@CoastalZugMekdope! Jaj same here truly epic.

  • @Fortunes.Fool.
    @Fortunes.Fool. Před měsícem +19

    0:00 Intro
    1:15 Battle Traits
    7:31 Realmshaper Engine
    10:32 Battle Formations
    13:43 Heroic Traits
    15:44 Artifacts of Power
    17:54 Spells: Lore of Celestial Manipulation
    20:36 Spells: Lore of Primal Jungles
    23:23 Kroak
    28:53 Slann (Skip to here for your autoinclude)
    32:32 Skink on Troglodon
    35:15 Old Blood on Carnosaur
    37:43 Scar Vet on Aggradon
    40:00 Skink Starseer
    41:44 Skink Starpriest
    42:54 Terradon Chief
    44:06 Ripperdactyl Chief
    45:53 Stegadon Chief
    48:29 Astrolith Bearer
    50:01 Scar Vet on Carnosaur
    50:39 Saurus Oldblood on foot
    51:41 Aggradon Lancers (Skip to here for your other autoinclude)
    54:20 Saurus Warriors
    55:55 Saurus Guard
    56:46 Skinks
    58:07 Spawn of Chotec
    1:00:58 Raptadon Chargers
    1:02:27 Raptadon Hunters
    1:03:52 Hunters of Huanchi with bolas (the ones you take)
    1:06:23 Hunters of Huanchi with dartpipes (the other bits in the in box)
    1:07:37 Terrawings
    1:08:44 Bastilidon with Ark of Sotek
    1:10:53 Bastilidon with Solar Engine
    1:12:15 Terradon Riders
    1:14:32 Ripperdactyl Riders
    1:16:23 Stegadon
    1:17:40 Engine of the Gods
    1:19:38 Kroxigor Warspawned
    1:21:48 Kroxigor

  • @WarpstoneJunkie
    @WarpstoneJunkie Před měsícem +16

    Every time Rob says Kroxigor “Warp-Spawned” a Grey Seer gets its horns.

  • @JohnnyTightIips
    @JohnnyTightIips Před měsícem +37

    "Clever girl" - my opponent after I teleport 6 buffed aggradons 9" behind his lines.

    • @raiderxs1570
      @raiderxs1570 Před měsícem

      Legit did this against my friends gargant before and he asked how many attacks xD

  • @pancakemogul
    @pancakemogul Před měsícem +37

    It's unfortunate that every Seraphon player loves the concept of lizards riding dinosaurs, and every rules writer seemingly loves the idea of perched frogs waving their arms.

    • @JohnnyTightIips
      @JohnnyTightIips Před měsícem +13

      I want an oldblood on a carnosaur to be double the points or more and as devastating as they are in the lore.

    • @Armiesintoart
      @Armiesintoart Před měsícem +2

      I like frogs too

  • @luke_smith262
    @luke_smith262 Před měsícem +16

    The scale joke got you an instant like and subscribe.

  • @randymanmachosavage
    @randymanmachosavage Před měsícem +11

    Quick shout out to my middle school history teacher for teaching us how to correctly pronounce coatl.

    • @JohnnyTightIips
      @JohnnyTightIips Před měsícem

      I've heard all sorts but barely anyone says it "co-at-ul"

  • @Vosrik
    @Vosrik Před měsícem +7

    I'm a simple man
    I see dino, I upvote

  • @HanTyumi9
    @HanTyumi9 Před měsícem +11

    Sure, there are numbers and game impact to consider when reviewing the Ark of Sotek, but you're forgetting the sheer joy caused by the mental image of a dinosaur releasing a giant box of snakes :)

  • @user-cx7rf8lm4u
    @user-cx7rf8lm4u Před měsícem +3

    I’d probably run as much cavalry as possible as I think dinosaurs riding bigger dinosaurs looks cool as fuck and the rule of cool is arguably the best and most important rule in wargaming.
    Cheers for all your vids 👍

  • @GeneralPuni
    @GeneralPuni Před měsícem +6

    Regarding the engines, i think you could make a nice tarpit with 2 or 3 of them. Their cosmic engine isnt capped at once per turn army. So with a 3+ for a d3 heal, you could easily be healing each other each turn. Throw in a hero (like the troglodon) that has the etheral trait, and with the +2 health formation, you could be holding on for a while or hold up the opponent. Or put a engine next to a ark bastildon for it to be each each too.

    • @hodges106
      @hodges106 Před měsícem +1

      This was my plan! If its not good, take more until it is haha

  • @tannermccollum7060
    @tannermccollum7060 Před měsícem +5

    I have plans on getting into Warhammer and this is the faction pack I plan on getting first.

  • @shittyspeedpaints1012
    @shittyspeedpaints1012 Před měsícem +4

    The Itzl 'quest' seems really tricky to accomplish in smaller games.

  • @otherdave2
    @otherdave2 Před 5 dny +1

    I loved the Good Place reference. Nicely done!

  • @northstartaxadvice8251
    @northstartaxadvice8251 Před měsícem +2

    Somebody else said this in another video, the Skink riding the Trog is underrated. You can buff him to both ignore rend and heal an additional D3 every turn (on top of the D3 he already heals every turn), thus making him a very powerful anvil and range extender for Kroak or Slann.

    • @thehonestwargamerstreams
      @thehonestwargamerstreams  Před měsícem

      On 12 health that's not true but understand the idea

    • @mitchellverstraate5756
      @mitchellverstraate5756 Před měsícem

      Could be 14 though with battle formation

    • @mypointofview777
      @mypointofview777 Před měsícem

      It’s good but not enough. Weight of attacks will tip it over or they’ll ignore it and go kill kroak 💀

    • @northstartaxadvice8251
      @northstartaxadvice8251 Před měsícem +1

      @@thehonestwargamerstreams He's a base 14 health with a 4+ save, so the plan would be put "being of the stars" and "incandescent retrices" on him, run him up with Aggradons right into combat, use the range extension from Slann to cast Empowered Celestite with the skink on one of the aggradon units, then watch the carnage. If he can get into combat, he gives a -1 to hit to up to 3 units on a 3+.
      I guess we'll see, I'm gonna run him and find out 🙂

  • @vanrussell7772
    @vanrussell7772 Před měsícem +2

    Ran some Hunters of Huanchi with Bolas in Shadowstrike formation and it was gross.
    They'd move to 10" shooting range, shoot, debuff the charge roll, then move 1d6 away which kept putting them out if max charge distance from their debuff target.
    I'm going to test Elthwins Thorns RoR. With their 3+ teleport, ability to move d6 after shooting in any turns shooting phase (covering fire), and ability to further debuff charges for every damage done seems like a good compliment to Shadowstrike formation lists

  • @DanielBlower-w9p
    @DanielBlower-w9p Před měsícem +3

    Love the videos bud, my first impressions are;
    1. Saurus warrior save buff needs an errata.
    2. EoTG might be a good tech piece for nurgle/tzeench as its points arent too bad.
    3. RIP astrolith bearer.
    4. I want a seraphon-specific manifestation.
    5. I think the carnosaur might be play better than we both believe.
    Kroxigor warspaned will be better in a list focused around them but the regular will suit a combined armed force better IMO.
    Overall i like what we got, some monsters are too expensive and i wish the asterism mini-missions were a tad more flexible. Looking forward to playing this edition and watching your vids.

    • @TheStargateNerd
      @TheStargateNerd Před měsícem

      What needs to be erratad about the Saurus Warriors?

    • @DanielBlower-w9p
      @DanielBlower-w9p Před měsícem +1

      ​@TheStargateNerd the rule as written means it's impossible for a reinforced unit to get the save buff as each model needs to be on the objective. All it needs to be is the unit controlling it rather than all individual models.

  • @nurglematthew893
    @nurglematthew893 Před měsícem +2

    Nothing makes me happier than riding a dinosaur while slurping a chocolate shake!! Let's go, Grot Tango Gango! Nurgle Bless!

  • @Funnyshoot_
    @Funnyshoot_ Před měsícem +1

    Oldblood "I would put it at 200-220" GW: 330pts take it or leave it

  • @tyrannarorus
    @tyrannarorus Před měsícem +2

    Hi Rob! Just wanted to say a big thanks for all your AoS 4 content so far - as a long time 40k player looking to make the switch over its been incredibly helpful and I've been waiting for this Lizard Wizards video for a while! Apologies if I'm missing something obvious with this one - but for the Seraphon Spearhead is there a reason my Saurus Warriors don't have the Reinforcements ability when a lot of other Spearhead infantry do? Is the rest of the box good enough that they don't need it or something?

  • @piffling2238
    @piffling2238 Před měsícem +1

    I have used kroak in a game and he did do work. That MW spell plus his ranged was really good. I did pair him with a troglodon for some extra coverage with a unit that can take a hit.
    Also a bit of a glowup you missed on the raptadon hunters is they can make a charge after the second attack from the deadly cohesion ability. This is different from 3.0 rules where they had not just stay back. It means a single group of hunters can just go in for some extra damage if needed.

  • @blkjet117
    @blkjet117 Před měsícem +1

    I want to have a Seraphon force that focuses on units with companions. Carnosaurs (really expensive now), Aggradons, and Raptadons.

  • @GeekySkippy
    @GeekySkippy Před měsícem +3

    Good review. Got a heavy Saurus and Krox list I’m taking to a tournament this weekend. Hopefully it punches as hard as I think it does.

    • @mikelmazzi7978
      @mikelmazzi7978 Před 26 dny

      Did it? 🦖

    • @GeekySkippy
      @GeekySkippy Před 25 dny +1

      @@mikelmazzi7978 it did hit very hard. Only issue I had was I didn’t take enough fast units to do battle tactics. Brick of reinforced Kroxigors and reinforced Agradons slapped. I killed a lot but couldn’t score. I felt like my list was 90% there.

    • @mikelmazzi7978
      @mikelmazzi7978 Před 25 dny

      I see, thank you for the feed back!

  • @NecroGoblin-yl2fx
    @NecroGoblin-yl2fx Před měsícem +4

    the Saurus warriors ability is bad atm.
    every model have to be on the objective and you have to control the objective.
    so it is hard to get a whole unit onto an objective.
    when adding control score it is to the unit not the model, so if we have a unit of 10 Saurus Warriors with 1 Control each, a Banner and we get 3 from Astrolith bearer, the unit have a Control of 14 in total.

  • @jamesguthrie9454
    @jamesguthrie9454 Před 17 dny

    I think "further the great plan" should also turn on if you meet the requirement by the start of tuen 4 or 5. It would give a bit more flexibility as it is a bit too restrictive right now. It would mean that you get more chances to complete the objective The slaan one would be unchanged, but the defensive one would be greatly improved.

  • @dalmont8099
    @dalmont8099 Před měsícem +1

    Quetzl is great against alpha strike. It's generally a choice between that or movement and then picking one of the other 2 later if you can.

  • @JayzusKhrist
    @JayzusKhrist Před 18 dny

    There is one datasheet in this army and it is the Kroxigor Warspawned

  • @Failerist
    @Failerist Před měsícem

    A very good analysis, some good suggestion and of course great insight. Totally agreed on the WaRspawned Krox - not warp btw, we hate skaven as you know ! - have mind blowing potential although they do have some mediocre mobility if non existent ( we can work around it with the spells etc though )

  • @josephhay5551
    @josephhay5551 Před měsícem +2

    Hey Rob, love the content but got a question? I think a Slann is an auto include in my 2k point list. He is a 3 cast wizard with a board wide unbind, but my LGS is starting a path of glory next week and worried he costs too much for 1k points. What do you think?

  • @bilobeutlin7400
    @bilobeutlin7400 Před měsícem +1

    Hey, thanks for your content. Its the best Aos content on CZcams, in my personal opinion.
    One question: if i take the artefact for more Attacks on the Carnosaur, does it effect the companion weapons too, or is an artifact a ability too ?

  • @Anjouvis
    @Anjouvis Před měsícem

    Hell yes Rob, I've been waiting for this video. Great stuff!!!

  • @Dennis3113
    @Dennis3113 Před měsícem +1

    But isn't it hard to deny a spellcast when you have no buff on your roll to do so. The Slans only have +1 on casting rolls and the asterism only buffs casting es well. i always felt at a disadvantage when the obr that i fought had their buffs also for their dispelling rolls and sop on.

  • @thebigapplegate5404
    @thebigapplegate5404 Před měsícem +4

    Rob ... 33:06 broke my heart dude. You can see it on your face. Ive been listening to you for years on yt.Just be yourself thats why i show up , but thats my personal opinion.

  • @NIcolasbobbitt
    @NIcolasbobbitt Před měsícem

    I just want Seraphon monster mash to be good. Maybe when the book drops

  • @vanrussell4072
    @vanrussell4072 Před měsícem +1

    It's hot Aggradon Summer🎉

  • @alphabetbeer
    @alphabetbeer Před měsícem

    If the lizards had any hero phase teleport I'd be tempted to yeet a +4 to cast Kroak behind enemy lines to fire off 9d3 mortals at the opponents support pieces. Would it be good? Almost certainly not. But by the Old Ones it would be hilarious

  • @mystictirend1222
    @mystictirend1222 Před měsícem

    I think you missed the fact that Kroxigor Warspawned only get the extra damage if the skinks are in combat while also being within 12'' of them

  • @benthomas5108
    @benthomas5108 Před měsícem +1

    Do you think it’s possible they will errata manifestations? Like make them only useable once or something? They seem incredibly overcooked at the moment.

  • @Elvings92
    @Elvings92 Před 15 dny

    Why is sotek the deliverer's ability orange? Does this ability also modify change movement distance?

  • @Narwaana
    @Narwaana Před měsícem

    Hey, will you do a video on Bonesplitterz? We did for once dont get the short end of the stick! Well, apart from being discontinued in a year....

  • @GlassHalfDead
    @GlassHalfDead Před měsícem

    1:06:47 in any shooting phase? Darn,I was hoping it was ever shooting phase :(

  • @jtb818
    @jtb818 Před 9 dny +1

  • @eclipse7217
    @eclipse7217 Před měsícem +2

    Honestly.... i dont mind the direction they've taken the faction. Even merging Coalesced and Starborne. But i have two major bugbears.
    They've stripped bite rolls and teleporting (staple Seraphon abilities) back to battle formations, so we have to pick between them... and then made them bad. I thought at first that our BF were bad because armies across the game have been nerfed... but then i saw that Nighthaunt literally have Celestial Translocation, but without the 12" restriction. And also without the 3+ dice roll. Ours is completely unreliable, comparatively.
    Second bugbear, Kroak isn't worth it. They made him less survivable (Dead for Innumerable Ages is now rolled at the end of the turn, not per phase). His +2 to cast now doesnt apply to unbinding. His spells have been nerfed, and then they raised his point cost. Again, i thought it was because wizards across the board have been nerfed, but Teclis is still crazy and they dropped his points by over 150!
    You're correct that Kroak would be amazing at casting endless spells because of his 3 power, but the slann does the same at 180 points cheaper.
    I dont want to sound like a negative nancy. I DO like what they've done with the melee units. They seem like they'll be plenty fun to play with. But those 2 points rankle a bit. I only just painted my Kroak model, and i was hoping that he'd be well balanced this edition, instead he seems to have swung from OP to unusable. Hoping that I've missed something or that an errata fixes my frustrations.
    Thanks for your breakdown!

  • @Dj_PushStart
    @Dj_PushStart Před měsícem

    I am so grateful for this, thank you sir.

  • @YTHandlesAreDumb
    @YTHandlesAreDumb Před měsícem

    Do you intend to do one of these videos for each faction?

  • @TheRealThirdME
    @TheRealThirdME Před měsícem

    You can walk across manifestations, so they can't block you in @9:00

    • @acunniffe
      @acunniffe Před měsícem +3

      You can move through them, but can't end a move on top of them, so unless the whole unit can completely clear the base of the manifestation, you can't move through it.

  • @GhostGuitars
    @GhostGuitars Před měsícem

    YESSSSSS ROB!!!!!! Been waiting for this :D

  • @RichSanders
    @RichSanders Před měsícem

    GOING ON A DEEP DUIVE ROB

  • @marlonmounce8313
    @marlonmounce8313 Před měsícem

    Thank you for making these

  • @timabrahamson2871
    @timabrahamson2871 Před měsícem

    RIP Kroak

  • @capt.mannerings8095
    @capt.mannerings8095 Před měsícem

    Looks fun shame so much of my stuff is based around the older models. Will update at some point and get back to these Dino's on Dino's.

  • @zzTaszz
    @zzTaszz Před měsícem

    I was really hoping that the dino heavy lists would be as viable as the slann and aggradons lists seems to be… feels bad man, maybe in 5th edition…

  • @seraphoncobus
    @seraphoncobus Před měsícem +1

    Roll a d3 on a 2+ deal that much damage means you only ever do 2 or 3 damage right?

  • @gabrielfisher3642
    @gabrielfisher3642 Před měsícem

    War spawned man hearing warp spawned was killing me

  • @BloodKraven
    @BloodKraven Před měsícem

    Lovely work

  • @Gramsci
    @Gramsci Před měsícem +1

    lumineth exist ;-)

  • @mypointofview777
    @mypointofview777 Před měsícem

    This spawn is my favourite model in the range but its scroll just ain’t right 😢

  • @aaronsomerville2124
    @aaronsomerville2124 Před měsícem

    Brilliant video! I too had high hopes for the EotG but he’s just a bit shy of being there.

  • @mrogface
    @mrogface Před měsícem +1

    Is this a deep dive?

  • @kendrickwhite4868
    @kendrickwhite4868 Před měsícem

    Hey Rob, you rock

  • @johanderyck6598
    @johanderyck6598 Před měsícem +1

    So how long until manifestations will get points again?

    • @thehonestwargamerstreams
      @thehonestwargamerstreams  Před měsícem

      A year

    • @johanderyck6598
      @johanderyck6598 Před měsícem

      @@thehonestwargamerstreams so, after a Eurostar to London St. Pancras from my Brussels area, how do I get to the TSN arena by public transport the best during the next year?

  • @crosbyization
    @crosbyization Před měsícem

    the lack of lumineth, i feel the bias

  • @wargamerwilly8756
    @wargamerwilly8756 Před měsícem

    Is there a Stormcast Eternals coming? ❤

  • @TheShaggyarab
    @TheShaggyarab Před měsícem

    sorry for being blind where can I see the caster level?

    • @jgray196
      @jgray196 Před měsícem +1

      Bottom of the war scroll with the keywords.

  • @HamsterLiterario
    @HamsterLiterario Před měsícem

    Nighthaunt wheeen :'(

  • @timabrahamson2871
    @timabrahamson2871 Před měsícem

    Spawn is also hot garbage at its point level

  • @micahtate8793
    @micahtate8793 Před měsícem +1

    When is night haunt 😂😂😂

    • @claysimpkins7490
      @claysimpkins7490 Před měsícem +1

      He already did it

    • @micahtate8793
      @micahtate8793 Před měsícem +1

      @@claysimpkins7490 not a full review I didn’t think. I’ll go back and look.

    • @micahtate8793
      @micahtate8793 Před měsícem +2

      @@claysimpkins7490 yeah not a full army overview like these unfortunately. It’s just the preview he did for all of them. Hoping for a full review like these!

    • @MrJadeskies
      @MrJadeskies Před měsícem

      Night haunt, tldr bring nagash, profit.

    • @claysimpkins7490
      @claysimpkins7490 Před měsícem +1

      @@micahtate8793 my apologies! I was wrong 🤥

  • @user-cx7rf8lm4u
    @user-cx7rf8lm4u Před měsícem

    I’d probably run as much cavalry as possible as I think dinosaurs riding bigger dinosaurs looks cool as fuck and the rule of cool is arguably the best and most important rule in wargaming.
    Cheers for all your vids 👍