Recreational Recurve Bow vs. Olympic Recurve Bow
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- Dan Schuller points out some of the similarities and difference between a recreational recurve bow and an Olympic recurve bow.
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if anyone's wondering, indonesia takes recreational recurve bow to the deep and even made it a sector called "standard bow" that includes stabilisers and everything
great video with annoying music.
Jesus christ who thought the random loud ass 1 second clips of music was a good idea?
Brian Perkins .... just what?
Great video. I'm just getting into archery and this cleared up a few questions I had.
Thankyou
Please, rename your video. This is not recreational vs olympic. All you're talking about is olympic recurve with 5 seconds of recreational. how about the anchor point for Barebow/recreational? how about gloves for Barebow/recreational? how about the fact that Barebow is more for hunting? how about that barebows usually you want quiter? how about arrows for Barebow/recreational?
As he continued with the general set-up for Olympic styled archery, the more it reinforced how that is definitely not my preference for archery. Not to mention, the unmentioned amount of formalities, such as how to draw the bow and how to aim the bow.
Great explanation though.
EnterTheFatrix I'm not a fan of this kind of archery. Never did people in the past hunted and killed like this with bows and arrows.
Only snipers with the advent of guns is this kind of static precise shooting became acceptable.
thx man that was awesome.
Nice explanation! Which equipment do you recommend for a beginner that wanna get serious in the future?
For a beginner looking to get serious, get the best equipment you can afford. If that's a recreational bow.....fine. If you can afford an Olympic setup.....that's great too.
it all depends on what you're going for:
do you want a cheap and reliable bow for target practice? get traditional.
do you want a bow solely for competition purposes? go olympic.
do you want a bow for target practice AND hunting? choose a compound.
Thank you!
Oh i understand, the compound it is the one that has like wheels on each side? Beg you pardon my ignorance in the subject.
+Luis Salazar Yes....the compound has wheels
It looks like the fletches will hit the arrow rest. If that is true it seems the arrow will be pushed off alignment. Can you show a closeup view showing how the fletching pass through the arrow rest, without being bumped off course. Thanks.
You can have clearance issues & rip vanes/wings off, that would be due to improper setup (centre shot, plunger & rest arm distance) or improper arrow tune (stiffness/softness vs bow poundage/power). When properly setup I *think* the oscillation of the arrow as it leaves the string & passes the rest should help it clear the rest (see archers paradox)
So if a recreational bow would have all the mounting points for accessories, it would be in fact an Olympic bow?
Wow! Thank you...I did not know that.
wouldn't the sight block be moved upwards the closer you get to the target?
yes it would.
yes it would.
yes it would.
Yes....He initially says the sight was set for a "higher distance." He was referring to higher on the sight bracket, rather than higher yardage. Immediately after he says higher distance, he says, "This is set for a close distance, and we'll move it down for 70 meters...." Then he moves the block down.
ohhh okay just wondering. THANKS!!
I love archery
it literally is, ARROW-DYNAMICS XD
NICE ONE THANKS FOR THE VIDEO
Lancaster archery can you make a product video on hoyt prodigy xt and win and win inno series riser
“Unlikely for an olympic archer to have contact with his arm”
**frances male recurve archer**
the joke's on you i have a 4000$ bow for 10m backyard shooting
$4,000 for a bow? Jesus.
I just put money down for my first bow! :) hopefully my coach will have it setup by next practice!!
@@c_machi welcome to the club mate
lol I mean why?! I guess if you have the cash & like nicely engineered gear then why not but $4000 at 10m? Who am I kidding I'm just jelly, I would totally drop the money on gear!!
I have to say that there is no real difference between the "Recreational bow" and the "Olympic Bow" as they are one and the same as you shoot them using the same technique.
The main differences are cost and the materials they are made of which give a more efficient, faster bow with more adjustment capabilities than with the wooden riser, other than that, no difference!
In past Olympic games the wooden version was the only thing available so to discount the wooden bow does it an injustice!
On the wooden bow, you can fit sights, stabilisers, pressure buttons, arrow rests and most of the accessories that you would have on the more modern counterpart, even clickers! So apart from the materials and costs what's the difference?
Chest guards, Bracer's (Arm guards), Finger tabs, slings and scopes, whilst necessary, are not parts of the bow so should not be included here as a difference between the two bows.
Roythearcher....We respectfully disagree! The recreational bow, as you noted, has nowhere near the adjustment capabilities as an Olympic bow. That's a big difference. For instance, you can't make tiller adjustments, limb tip adjustments or lateral limb adjustments with a recreational bow. All are critical to Olympic archery. The recreational bow does not have the bushings for a clicker, nor will it have any of the extra bushings the Olympic bow will have for extra stabilizers and counterweights, and it's going to have one hole in the riser for a plunger and rest, vs. 2 holes on an Olympic bow. The Olympic bow is going to be much heavier, and it uses ILF limbs vs. recreational limbs....and on and on. Yes they are both recurve bows, but they are VERY different bows. Like a Lamborghini Huracan and a Ford Focus are both "cars," but they are very different cars....
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There are differences, granted! But, Again, in the past when there was nothing else available, these bows were the "Olympic" bow of the day! Tiller was adjustable but you had to use wedges under the limbs in their pockets to achieve this.
It, for me, is more about the style of shooting like the differences between recurve, compound, and traditional (longbow and the like). Because the recreational and "Olympic" recurve bows are shot using the same technique even though the bows themselves are different in materials and efficiency, they are essentially the same bow type!
You can compare the Ford model "T" and the Bugatti Veyron but they are still both Cars just materially and ages apart. I hope you can see where I'm coming from here,
Good shooting!
You would have to go a loooooong way back in time to find archers shooting bows like our recreational bow in the Olympics. Even in the early 1970s, Olympic recurves had tiller bolt adjustments, multiple bushings for extra weights and stabilizers, and they were made out of aluminum, vs wood. It's our intention to educate people who might see both Olympic and recreational recurve bows and not know or understand the differences. As you seem to be experienced, then you know and understand these bows are shot in a similar fashion, but they are very different in their capabilities.
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Indeed they are very different in terms of their performance and yes I'm thinking of the very early seventies when the Aluminium arrow was a new and controversial addition to the arsenal! (Carbon arrows made an appearance in the 80's)
Back then you'd have to have a 60+Lb bow to reach the 100yds required to shoot to win an Olympic medal or even qualify, such was the inefficiency of the materials used but it was state of the art for the time, and a fully stabilised bow was a very strange beast to behold! Even fibreglass was the best you could hope for for your bow limbs when carbon fibre was an extraordinarily expensive material which was reserved mainly for secret military aircraft projects.
How things have changed!
well can't you put all the same accessories on the recreational bow and it would look exactly the same way as the Olympic one? Of course the price of the rec bow vs Olympic one is like on, a thousand dollar or more difference in price. Of course, I guess that would be the difference between a Fiero with a Ferrari body kit vs a real Ferrari.
Very helpful, thank you
How many pounds are the olympic bows?
The pros shoot from 45lbs-55lbs. The great thing about takedown recurves is that you can start out with low poundage & work your way up once you have good form & increased muscle/conditioning just by swapping out the limbs.
Obvious similarities they are both bows and recurve =D
super
I love archery but no cash in our life
Would be great if you sticked to one measurement system... 210ft/s at 70metres. 1 grain vs 100 ounce.... Jesus
while you're at it, go yell at the gun community.
Is this a joke video? What's with that stupid music after every sentance?
nice video... but the title is misleading ... :)
Are Olympic recurve bow archers not allowed to use mechanical releases? I don't see why anyone would shoot a bow without one? (Well, apart from "traditional archers", of course.)
They are not allowed to use mechanical release. And actually, all recurve archers are going to use their fingers, and not mechanical releases.
Lancaster Archery Supply But aren't there quite strong recurve bows? I shoot a 65 pound compound bow and shot about 100 times without mechanical release. It hurts! I never shot a recurve bow but shouldn't the situation for a 65 pound recurve bow be even worse since the archer has the hold 65 pounds with a few fingers on a thin string while aiming whereas I when I shot with 65 pound draw weight without mechanical release ... Aaaaaand at this point I noticed that they don't hold the strings with their fingers but have piece of rubber or leather between their fingers and the string to distribute the force of the string. Okay, it's not as bad as I assumed but still: Why not just use a mechanical release?
Because the draw weight gets heavier the farther you draw back a recurve bow, the string would be very difficult to control with a release, as opposed to your fingers.
+Lancaster Archery Supply Okay, thanks!
+Christoph Michelbach +Christoph Michelbach yeah a compound only makes you pull half the pull weight due to the pulley system. So a mechanical is ok for that but pulling 60pounds on a small mechanical release can be a pain.
타겟 크다....
so basically there's no difference as you can shoot the recreational one with the same fancy attachments or the "olympic" one without them (well maybe not at the olympics) ....
anyway I've seen a world archery promo video where recurve champs are trying to shoot barebow ... it was horrible ...
Lubos Soltes well... a rifle Champ would also suck at pistol shooting for the first 50 shots.
Most recreational bows don't have the bushings installed to add on a clicker, stabilizer, plunger, etc. so it would be very difficult to add them on without spending a lot of money to have the bushings installed.
That video was a fun video and they were string walking which takes years to master
They should not allow sites at the Olympics
Song Bird feel free to take your complaint up with FITA, they make and set the terms. Becuase I'm sure all the professionally trained archers on the board will care what you think is 'real archery' or what should be allowed.
Song Bird also if your going to say something should not be allowed at least spell it correctly. An archery sight is not spelled 'site'
Song Bird so you're saying olympic shooters should be using flintlock muskets for accuracy shooting and blunderbuss' for clay. I mean that is exactly what you're arguing right? I hope you don't hunt with a scoped rifle or anything that reduces recoil. God forbid we moved past the 1800's right?
These days the bow is good, not the archer. That should be the other way around.
I've been out of this sport for over 50 years. I was heavily into it in the mid-late 1960s, practicing 3-4 hours a day, while attending college, waiting/hoping that archery would be put back into the Olympics. I was successful in competition, but a few years too early for that hoped-for happening. When release aids were first introduced, it raised most scores (Releases were 'primitive' by today's standards, but effective.) Those of us shooting in the Amateur Division could not use them...or telescopic sights...or clickers, that were also available at that time. Compound bows came out shortly thereafter. A lot of effort was made to allow the 'average' archer to shoot higher scores, but it didn't change 'the winners' much, as the better archers still shot higher scores than did the average person. I shot a heavier draw weight than did most, at that time, which I thought gave me a reward for my fitness, when shooting 90 meters. I looked at compound bows as "cheating", though I wasn't competing against their users; release aids, likewise. My attitude was molded by the "reward" of shooting higher and higher scores by improving my strength and skill, and the sport rewarded INDIVIDUAL improvement: one was not really competing against opponents, in my opinion, but against themselves. If one's scores improved enough, the result was "winning", but the improvement, incrementally, over time, was an accomplishment in and of itself; to me.
As I said, I've been away for some time, but I'm looking at 'getting back on the horse'. I still have my old recurve tournament equipment, and the new/improved/more accurate equipment doesn't have the aesthetic appeal of my older exotic-hardwood-riser recurve bow, in my opinion. I have no doubt the new equipment is more accurate, in much the same way as new auto technology has improved the capability of modern cars to go faster and stay on the road even in the case of an incompetent driver going "too fast for conditions". I own a classic sports car that goes fast enough, and I drive well enough to stay on the road on the curves I like to drive, so I'll keep driving it. Likewise, my old archery equipment will get to 'wake up' again, at least for a while.
New equipment, with all of the attachments, and the ability to "fine-tune" them to shoot the ultimate high scores, is wonderful for one purpose: to try to reach 'perfection'. The archers may shoot amazingly high scores with that equipment, but the higher scores do not indicate higher skill levels when compared to scores shot by past champions in competition. Current competitive rules allow some accessories that were not allowed in the past, and those accessories make the equipment MORE influential in creating the final results than did the equipment in the past. Archery has always been minimally affected by the ATHLETIC prowess of the competitor. The mental focus has, I believe, always been the primary influence in the ability to shoot an arrow accurately, by physically repeating the same action time, after time, after time. By making the equipment so much more important, the required physical skills have been reduced, especially in the case of the use of the compound bow. Archery, I believe, has become even more of a mental competition, as opposed to an athletic competition.
Don't get me wrong: I'm not against all of the new rules/equipment. As long as the competitors know the rules before the start of the competition, as long as they all have access to the best equipment, then the competition is a fair one. With all of the different divisions set up for competition between similarly equipped archers, we should all be able to find a group with similar interests. I thought I'd like to get back into competing at high levels of the sport, even at my age, but, after investigating the sport as it is now configured, I may change my mind. My top-of-the-line bow cost me $125.00 in 1963. It looks like new, and I could sell it now for three or four times that. But, a new Olympic set-up could cost $2000 +++. I'll have to think about what reward I might get for the expense, before I retire my old equipment permanently.
XD pick an oly setup & shoot it, you'll eat your words!
@@markselleck8132 I used to think that way about compounds but as you said if the other archers on the line are also shooting compounds then its just another discipline in the sport.
bow are the same.... looks its a recurve guys thats great.. heres one with attachments.. heres one without.. thanks for watching.. lmao what??!?!?
this vid should be names.. whats the diff between barebow and everything else lol
TheCrazyBadGamer wow that grammar made me cringe. Please revise your sentence structure :)